AVGAS-where is the cheapest????

[Ken Wells]

[/B]just received an email re rise in AVGAS again at my local club.

As from Monday April 21st the price of AVGAS will be #1.52 inc Vat and Jet will be #0.83 inc Vat.

Where is the cheapest AVGAS in the UK???????

After all there are only 3 AVGAS Lorries that deliver the same fuel for SHELL, so it would be interseting to see what the variation is.

Cheers:ok:

[matspart3]

AVGAS is £1.48 inc VAT at Gloucester, Jet A1 is £0.70.

[pulse1]

Just been told that Compton Abbas, who did claim to be the cheapest, have put the price up from £1.28 to £1.36 (£1.31 for residents).

[NigelOnDraft]

We need to be v clear about whether prices are quoted inc VAT. Is suspect the post about refers to VAT exc?

[D SQDRN 97th IOTC]

Nigel

fancy a "spin" on friday and burning some avtur instead of avgas?

[NigelOnDraft]

Sure! Book me up (I think it's 65p a litre right now :D )

[Kiltie]

This question comes up regularly on this forum. Perhaps the moderators would consider a sticky with a link to this page (if that's permitted). If everyone makes the effort to update it for their local airport (it only takes a few seconds) we all benefit.

http://www.thehangar.co.uk/fuel/fuel.shtml

[IO540]

Losinj, Croatia, about 50p/litre.

[Pilotdom]

Who's really bothered where its cheapest? If its cheapest at Wick, are you gonna fly up there to save £5.00 on a fill up?

[Rob Howarth]

Ken,

£1.52 is a ridiculous amount of money for AvGas, however what more would you expect from WLAC!!!!??:bored:

They can, so they will.....................

Rob

[Shunter]

At Eddsfield today... £1.25 inc VAT. Surely that's the cheapest in the country?

[Ken Wells]

This question comes up regularly on this forum. Perhaps the moderators would consider a sticky with a link to this page (if that's permitted). If everyone makes the effort to update it for their local airport (it only takes a few seconds) we all benefit.


Great idea, one could even plan their weekend trips around the price guide!!

[CottonEyeJoe]

You Brits Love paying so much for your GAS!

Isn't it about time you changed your Non-elected Prime Minister, you know the one that told the UN today that democracy was important with reference to the other non-elected leader Uncle Bob.

According to The Times on line he is already lining up another non-elected person to take over called BALLS. Make's sense!

[eharding]

At this rate, I might have to seriously consider cutting down on the food expenditure.

Here goes....
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..nope...have just considered it. Didn't like it.

[Shunter]

Don't kid yourself Joe. Brown isn't in charge of the UK any more than Dubya is in charge of the USA. Please forward your query to MegaCorp USA Inc. and WotWotOldBean UK Plc. Cynical? Oh yes... Reality? Probably...

[Mark 1]

Cheapest is to order direct from the refinery, but you'll need approved storage for at least 3000 litres to make it worthwhile.

Wick actually is quite expensive, so I wouldn't bother with them unless you happen to be passing by!

Not too far to the Channel Islands, but even there nudging towards £1/litre.

Other option is to get approved for Mogas if you have low compression, a suitable fuel system and can get some without bio-ethanol contamination.

If you don't already, then setting the mixture properly can save you 10% or more.

[Ken Wells]

What about Popham, Thuxton, Denham, IOW, Redhill, Headcorn, Booker; etc etc

[niknak]

Mark 1, you still need to get the stuff from the refinery to the facility and that involves using an appropriately licensed supplier, you may get a small discount for a bulk order (3000 litres or more as you say), but other than that, you'd still pay the market rate.

As has been said, unless you happen to need to go to a cheaper airfield or have one within the immediate vicinity, you're stuffed.

[chrisbl]

Cotton Eyes said:
You Brits Love paying so much for your GAS!


Dont kid your self. The price differential between AVGAS and MOGAS is much smaller in the UK than in the US.

The real problem with AVGAS is the relatively small volumes consumed/manufactured. Last I heard was that the annual UK consumption of AVGAS was equivilent to ones days London rush hour consumption.
So considering the premium its not that bad.
What will go down is the tax.

[Duchess_Driver]

EGLD is 1.47 incl.

Mr Darling is laughing his bollox off! All that extra money from the VAT on the rising prices means he can afford to delay the 2p Duty increase. How clever and kind is he......not!

We need to do something, this is bloody 'culous.


FTWDK EGLD = Denham

[FullyFlapped]

Duchess,

Have you thought about trying EGJD ?








Don't bother. It doesn't exist. But isn't it bloody annoying having to look it up ?

[SkyHawk-N]

FF, don't be too hard on Duchess Driver. After all, typing 'EGLD' saved him pressing two additional keys. ;)

[radicalrabit]

Or does that only work when the fuel is distributed to the same location? If we all part owned x company and all bought fuel through x company could we get a better rate because of the volume the company buys or would that only work if it was all delivered to the same place? Just a thought?:confused:

[eglk01]

Hi all Blackbushe from Monday will be £1.42 avgas inc vat.
£0.77 JETA1 INC Vat.




Best regardss.

[Duchess_Driver]

Oh dear.....

[Kiltie]

So is the price of £1.70 inc VAT at Blackbushe posted on the Hangar website malicious then? I can't see why no-one is interested in updating this. Maybe it's too open to abuse.:(

http://www.thehangar.co.uk/fuel/fuel.shtml

[eglk01]

HI It will be £1.21 plus vat which is £1.42

cheers.

[Ken Wells]

Panshanger £1.29 inc AVGAS!

[Stampe]

The Hangar fuel price comparison site is the only one running in the Uk at present as far as I know.With price variations of 20 pence or greater per litre fuelling at the best priced airfields can produce big savings.I urge all pilots keep that site updated.VBR Stampe:ok:

[Ken Wells]

Actually Rob I am on the commitee which is why I originaly asked the question re, prices across the UK.:(

WLAC now have a new Airfield General Manager with a strong aviation background and has an aircraft and flies himself, unlike the previous Manager, that didn't know her Elevator from her Ailelron (HARSH BUT TRUE):ooh:

One cannot discuss the current pricing, without knowing what the competition is selling AVGAS for. So I would be obliged if PPruners could just answer the damn question and stop wandering of the subject.:=

I just need a list of all AVGAS pricing accross the UK by airfield inc VAT,

Cheers:ok:

[stray10level]

If some places like Eddsfield can sell it for £125/ltr inc, and its not like they are getting through tons of the stuff for discount purposes, then either they are using it as a loss leader, or the other airfields are just making extra profit form us:= But i can't see what Edd would be using it as a "leader" to? As he runs a nice friendly quiet strip with nothing to sell you! Therefore i would suggest the other places are just making as much as they can from a virtually captive audience! The only problem, as has been said, flying from WWaltham to Edds for some gas would be un-economically viable, although a good reason for a flight north for a change to the L2K run! Still aslong as you can get it for £1.25 then its only a couple of pence more than the car stuff, so not too bad all things considered.

[Vick Van Guard]

It is still £1.10 / litre incl VAT at my club, £1.21 to non-members.

This will last until the next bulk delivery. The last time we filled the tank, in January (9000 litres), the cost to us was £1.08 / litre.

This gives you some indication of the profit some airfield operators are making. :=

[Stampe]

I think a lot of the smaller fields are just selling existing stock purchased at lower prices.They may get a very nasty shock when next filling their tanks.For the consumer that method of working is great but just imagine if the price ever starts to drop (ever hopeful) these places with slow turnover could be left with very expensive stock.

[Vick Van Guard]

Stampe
Of course we are selling our existing stock cheap, as we sell it at cost plus a couple of pence, and we fully expect the price to be much higher when we bulk up next.

I think the price of AVGAS did dip a little bit last year, but did anybody pass that on at the pumps? No I don't think so.

I was paying in the '1.40ish' range throughout last year at other fields, and yet at the begining of this year the wholesale price was only 1.08.

Is 30-40 pence profit / litre reasonable?

[Bath]

There you go fill ya boots!
A to J

EGJA Alderney tax free 0.985 2008-04-17
EGNG Bagby 1.420 2008-03-09
EGSN Beccles 1.460 2006-10-03
EGAA Belfast - Aldergrove Int. 1.168 2007-05-17
EGHJ Bembridge 1.890 2008-04-09
EGNY Beverley 1.350 2008-02-16
EGDD Bicester 1.200 2007-02-17
EGKB Biggin Hill Avgas 1.374 2008-01-28
EGKB Biggin Hill Jet A1 0.550 2008-02-07
EGBB Birmingham 1.990 2007-11-14
EGLK Blackbushe 1.700 2008-04-09
EGNH Blackpool 1.580 2008-04-10
EGLA Bodmin 1.390 2007-10-03
EGSN Bourn 1.450 2007-07-09
EGHH Bournemouth 1.150 2007-12-31
EGBR Breighton 1.300 2007-12-02
EGGD Bristol, Lulsgate 1.400 2008-02-22
EGCK Caernarfon 1.430 2008-03-30
EGEC Cambletown 1.560 2007-09-01
EGSC Cambridge 1.386 2007-08-01
EGSC CAMBRIDGE 1.360 2007-04-10
EGFF Cardiff 1.650 2008-04-19
EGFF Cardiff (signature)
EGNC Carlisle 1.469 2007-12-15
EGHR Chichester, Goodwood 1.390 2007-11-10
EGHA Compton Abbas 1.360 2008-04-16
EGBE Coventry (airpark) 1.280 2007-12-15
EGTC Cranfield 1.290 2005-11-24
EGSO Crowfield 1.350 2006-08-10
EGSO CROWFIELD 1.290 2006-05-03
EGPG Cumbernauld 1.130 2007-03-17
EGLD Denham 1.410 2007-12-17
EGLD DENHAM 1.470 2008-04-15
EGBD Derby 1.470 2007-08-29
EGPN Dundee, Tayside 1.440 2006-09-07
EGTU Dunkeswell 1.340 2007-12-14
EGTD DUNSFOLD (P.P.R.) - JET A1 0.660 2008-04-10
EGNV Durham Tees Valley (Teesside) 1.351 2007-05-06
EGSU Duxford 1.327 2007-03-29
EGHU Eaglescott 1.280 2007-05-14
EGSR Earls Colne 1.490 2006-08-18
EGDS Eddsfield. eastyorkshire.co.uk/eddsfield 1.250 2008-04-12
EGPH Edinburgh 1.490 2008-03-06
EGST Elmsett 1.400 2007-10-18
EGTR Elstree 1.240 2007-04-25
EGTR Elstree 1.345 2007-10-28
EGTE Exeter 1.515 2008-01-23
EGTF FAIROAKS AVGAS 100L 1.340 2007-11-25
EGTF FAIROAKS JET A1 1.591 2007-08-12
EGCL Fenland - www.fenlandairfield.co.uk (http://www.fenlandairfield.co.uk) 1.400 2008-01-23
EGPJ Fife, Glenrothes 1.440 2006-09-30
EGTG Filton 1.300 2007-08-10
EGPF Glasgow 0.960 2008-04-07
EGBJ Gloucestershire 1.480 2008-04-16
EGJB GUERNSEY AVGAS 100LL tax free 0.860 2007-07-09
EGJB GUERNSEY JET A1 tax free 1.560 2007-11-06
EGFE Haverfordwest 1.590 2008-03-03
EGNR HAWARDEN 1.360 2007-07-23
EGLL Heathrow 1.230 2007-10-15
EGWE Henlow 1.351 2007-11-02
EGHS Henstridge 1.360 2008-04-10
EGNJ Humberside 1.363 2007-10-08
EGPE Inverness 1.460 2008-04-19
EGPI ISLAY 1.730 2008-02-15
EGNS Isle of Man, Ronaldsway 1.560 2008-04-13
EGHJ Isle of Wight, Bembridge 1.490 2008-02-14
EGHN Isle of Wight, Sandown 1.550 2008-04-09
EGJJ Jersey tax free 0.925 2008-02-09

[Bath]

And K to Z

EGBP Kemble Airfield, UK - www.kemble.com (http://www.kemble.com) 1.500 2008-04-05
EGPA KIRKWALL 1.600 2007-07-23
EGHC Lands End 1.398 2007-11-10
EGKH Lashenden 1.550 2008-03-06
EGHF Lee-on-Solent 1.250 2007-07-31
EGNM Leeds-Bradford 1.220 2006-09-08
EGBG Leicester 1.400 2007-12-03
EGMJ Little Gransden 1.270 2006-07-02
EGGP Liverpool 1.860 2006-12-26
EGAE Londonderry, Eglington 0.880 2007-10-22
EGGW Luton 2.000 2006-09-21
EGMD Lydd 1.527 2008-04-19
EGCB Manchester Barton 1.540 2008-04-06
EGMH Manston 1.223 2007-09-30
EGHB Maypole 1.200 2005-06-02
EGHB Maypole 1.500 2006-09-07
EBNM NAMUR SUARLE 1.920 2007-05-08
EGNF Netherthorpe 1.450 2008-03-18
EGNT Newcastle 1.260 2005-09-18
EGAD Newtownards 1.445 2007-04-01
EGSX North Weald 1.530 2008-04-19
EGBK Northampton, Sywell 1.490 2008-04-19
EGSH Norwich 1.200 2007-05-18
EGBN Nottingham (Tollerton) 1.492 2008-04-17
EGTW Oaksey Park 1.400 2008-03-30
EGEO OBAN 1.520 2007-07-23
EGSV Old Buckenham 1.390 2008-02-15
EGLS Old Sarum 1.370 2008-04-16
EGTH Old Warden (Shuttleworth - Biggleswade) 1.400 2007-09-02
EGTK Oxford, Kidlington 1.370 2007-10-12
EGLG Panshanger 1.290 2007-05-04
EGFP Pembrey 1.450 2006-09-30
EGTP Perranporth 1.500 2007-10-15
EGPT Perth 1.433 2008-03-14
EGSF Peterborough, Conington 1.330 2005-12-12
EGSP Peterborough, Sibson 1.380 2007-10-24
EGHD Plymouth 1.190 2007-09-18
EGHP Popham 1.360 2008-03-18
EGPK PRESTWICK 1.410 2007-04-08
EGKR Redhill 1.430 2008-04-16
EGNE Retford, Gamston 1.460 2008-03-12
EGTO Rochester 1.630 2008-04-18
EGSJ Seething 1.250 2006-07-03
EGSY Sheffield City - www.sheffieldcityairport.com (http://www.sheffieldcityairport.com) 1.280 2007-01-25 EGCJ Sherburn-in-Elmet 1.310 2007-08-31
EGSA Shipdham 1.250 2008-02-01
EGBS Shobdon 1.320 2007-10-11
EGKA Shoreham 1.590 2008-03-16
EGCV Sleap 1.350 2008-03-03
EGHI Southampton, Eastleigh 1.090 2007-04-10
EGMC Southend (www.southendairport.net (http://www.southendairport.net)) 1.480 2008-02-16
EGDG St. Mawgan, Newquay 0.800 2004-03-11
EGSG Stapleford 1.445 2007-12-08
EGPO Stornoway 1.080 2008-02-19
EGCS Sturgate 1.200 2006-11-07
EGPB Sumburgh 1.330 2007-05-19
EGFH Swansea 1.460 2008-04-06
EGBM Tatenhill 1.330 2007-08-29
EGHO THRUXTON AVGAS 100LL 1.300 2007-11-02
EGHO THRUXTON JET A1 173.000 2008-03-04
EGHY Truro 1.440 2007-10-03
EGBT Turweston 1.460 2008-04-19
EGBW Wellesbourne Mountford 1.290 2007-10-21
EGCW Welshpool 1.300 2006-06-08
EGFA West Wales Airport Aberporth 1.400 2007-10-01
EGLM White Waltham 1.520 2008-04-21
EGLM WHITE WALTHAM JET A1 0.720 2007-03-20
EGPC WICK 1.590 2007-07-23
EGPC Wick, Caithness 1.590 2007-05-27
EGNW Wickenby 1.420 2006-08-13
EGBO Wolverhampton, Halfpenny Green 1.340 2007-09-18
EGCD Woodford 0.880 1998-01-01
EGkb Wrights Farm Strip 0.920 2007-11-30
EGTB Wycombe, Booker 1.330 2007-11-05
EGYJ York, Rufforth 1.340 2006-08-26
EHMZ Zeeland Airport Mogas (EUROS) 1.665 2007-06-14 Edit (http://www.thehangar.co.uk/fuel/tbl_change.php3?primary_key=+ROWID+%3D+%27268%27+&goto=sql.php3?sql_query)

[eharding]

EGLL £1.230? My arse.

Saw the published figure on Pprune - so I popped over to fill up.

I've never met such a rude and un-cooperative radio operator in my life. He'd clearly never heard of an overhead join, and my request for the location of the signal square (he wouldn't tell me the circuit direction) was met with a fit of coughing...and then a thud.

Decided to land long on the grass runway at the end of the (very long) southern taxi way, since I could see some tyre tracks there - looks like a heavy twin gouged some turf up recently - but the markings for the grass runways are frankly rubbish.

Was impressed by the numerous static exhibits of contemporary airliner technology at the new aviation museum they've built at the western end of the airfield - apparently they try and fly some of the exhibits at weekends, helped by a bunch of willing amateur volunteers, but I reckon they need a few professionals in there to run the place to make a going concern of it.

Anyway, finally found the Avgas bowser - had to taxi round for ages - odd to have the "follow me" truck do the following instead of being in the lead, and it had blue lights as opposed to the usual orange. Turns out they only do Avgas for PPR 30 years in advance, and the £1.23 rate is only applicable if you uplift 3000 litres or more. Bloody typical. Anyway, I put Ken's name & address on the form the re-fueller (funny looking hi-viz jacket - it was black, made of kevlar, with lots of pockets) made me sign (and since when do fuel handlers need guns? - Health & Safety gone mad) since it was his thread on the Proon I was using as a reference for fuel availability.

Another fine mess he's got me into.

[airbourne]

Can you fuel hedge avgas like Jet A-1? I know the buying is a lot lower than an airline but could you buy say 50000 litres and get a decent discount?

[Stampe]

I think the important point with Avgas prices is they are very dynamic at present.On a list such as that above check the date of the price ,over2 months old is almost certainly invalid.Wholesale delivery prices are rising weekly if not daily.I ring ahead to establish fuel prices to deterrmine where I can fuel most cheaply ...a bit like the day job really.

[Chilli Monster]

It is still £1.10 / litre incl VAT at my club, £1.21 to non-members

Then would you care to tell is where that is - because it sure as hell isn't where your profile location is (£1.492 inc VAT)

[Ken Wells]

Ed Harding Wrote:
Saw the published figure on Pprune - so I popped over to fill up. EGLL £1.230? My arse. Anyway, I put Ken's name & address on the form the re-fueller (funny looking hi-viz jacket - it was black, made of kevlar, with lots of pockets) made me sign (and since when do fuel handlers need guns? - Health & Safety gone mad) since it was his thread on the Proon I was using as a reference for fuel availability.

Another fine mess he's got me into.

That would explain the early morning raid at my house today, Loads of YMCA glad chaps in Black (it’s the new Black they tell me)

Handed me a bill for AVGAS, signed by some called Manuel from the Basque Arms Acquisition department; sometimes known as BAA.

Behind him was a Gnome, (well that's what it looked like in the early morning light); but then I recognised it as Willie Walsh who had popped along, to see if he could learn anything from a totally disorganised situation.

Eventually I explained that I did not own a Yak 52 and had sold my Pitts years ago, so the Pilot that bought the AVGAS was not me.

Willie offered me a free BA ticket, if I told them the name of the Pilot. He handed me a Business lounge pass with Naomi Campbell’s name scrubbed off and mine in it's place. When I looked closely, Naomi’s name had been written over SNOOP DOGGY DOO DOO's, so it was at least third hand!

I wiped the traces of Cocaine from the card on Willie’s arm and handed it back. "You can't buy me of that easily" I retorted. "Now if I could have a couple of hours in the 777 sim, that would be fun". I said withna smirk,
"see if I could land it at White Waltham without ripping the undercarriage off!!"

He whispered something to Manuel, who hit him over the head and in a flash they where gone. Along with the Graham Norton look-alike SWAT team.

Hey Ho just another crazy day in the wonderful world of Aviation!!!

[Vick Van Guard]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vick Van Guard
It is still £1.10 / litre incl VAT at my club, £1.21 to non-members

Then would you care to tell is where that is - because it sure as hell isn't where your profile location is (£1.492 inc VAT)

Aircraft hangared at profile location, but not refuelled there if I can possibly avoid it.

Now a bit of a dilemma, my aircraft is a thirsty old hector, so if I broadcast where the cheap fuel is, it’s going to run out!

All I’ am prepared to say is we having a fly in on May 4th, and fuel will be available :ok:

[eharding]

(In summary....when the going gets Wierd, the Wierd turn Professional)



Blimey Ken....have you been sniffing Matron again?

[Ken Wells]

Ed.....wait untill I start drinking again this weekend in MULL.



Scary!