Recurent Training

[four engine jock]

Hope someone can shed some light.
What is the CAA regulation regarding Simulator training.
I remember reading a few years ago that if there is not a simulator available in RSA that Sim Check can be extended to 24 months. And Check can be done on the Aircraft...
If true it must be written somewhere.
Thanks

[Beeech19]

'2. Six-monthly proficiency checks
(1) The six-monthly flight crew proficiency check referred to in paragraph (e) of sub regulation
121.03.6(1) of the CAR, in respect of aeroplanes with a certificated mass in excess of 5700 kg
or a maximum approved passenger seating configuration in excess of 19 passengers, shall be
carried out at least once every twelve months in a flight simulator, approved for the purpose.
(2) Where a flight simulator, as contemplated in paragraph (1) above, is not reasonably or
timeously available, the Commissioner may under exceptional circumstances exempt an
operator from this particular requirement for a particular type of aeroplane for a period not
exceeding twelve months: Provided the operator demonstrates a satisfactory equivalent level
of proficiency by other means. Such exemption shall be published in an AIC.
(3) Where it can be proven by the operator
(a) that no flight simulator exists for the particular aeroplane in which the contemplated
abnormal and emergency procedures can be simulated; or
(b) that relevant abnormal or emergency procedures can be safely carried out in the
aircraft or in a similar type of aircraft.
The Commissioner may, on application, by means of an amendment to the operator’s
operations manual, exempt the operator from the requirement prescribed in paragraph (1).
Such exemption shall be reviewed annually and will be withdrawn when a suitable device
becomes available within the Republic.

[Golf_Seirra]

Stupid question, does that apply to P2's.....and does the B190 fall into a grey area.....have not heard of any operators doing simm checks on the 1900...:oh:

[CJ750]

Heard a rumour that the FAA wants this sim check changed from every 12 months to 6 months. Anybody else heard anything similar. The costs just boggle my mind and if we have to go twice a year......well goodbye job......THANKS FAA:mad:

[south coast]

CJ750

It would mean you will just be doing what the rest of the civilised world has been doing already.

Maybe it will reduce the shocking number of accidents Africa has each year, perhaps it wont.

Either way, if you want to be treated like the developed world, you must adhere to the same standards and rules.

Final point, your job should be safe, and if your employer cannot afford to offer a fair level of safety, they should not be in business.

[CJ750]

South Coast not saying it is a bad thing.

It is the cost for South Africans to get to the Sim every 6 months might put a bit of pressure on the budgets. The GA industry has only recently got used to having to go every 12 months. It is not like we are 1 or 2 hours away from a sim we can use.

BUT STILL A GOOD THING I AGREE:ok:

[Rat Catcher]

South Coast, Please spare the "civilised/developed world" comments:hmm:
If you look a bit further in to it, a large percentage of the shocking accidents you mention are Eastern Bloc aircraft being operated without the necessary oversight from their own authority or the authority of the country they are operating in AND ironically fairly often until recently for UN or associated UN agencies who brandish their safety oversite as a weapon. :eek:
Everyone who operates on this continent knows there is usually a way around a "paper obstacle" :E and many use it!:*
However the wind of change is blowing albeit slowly and many will breathe a sigh of relief as the great wheel of fortune turns and hopefully begins to smile on Africa. I notice the civilised world as you call it has only recently banned or tried to ground most of those Eastern Bloc aircraft from European skies...a bit slow wouldn't you say?
I fully agree with the safe job plan:D:D
Safe flying to all!

[south coast]

No need to take it personally Rat Catcher.

It doesnt matter why or how the accidents happen, the fact remains they happen in that part of the world.

This was not a slur on any country, purely a personal opinion after spending a few years flying around parts of Africa.

As for the wind of change, it seems to me to be a very soft and gentle zephyr.

[V1... Ooops]

...It is not like we are 1 or 2 hours away from a sim we can use.

Thats not often the case even for pilots who live and work in North America. Unless you are flying a really common type (737, A320, Dash 8), it will usually take you a day of travel, about 4 hours of flight time (never nonstop, always with an aircraft change in the middle) and about $1,500 in airfare to get to the sim training center, unless you happen to live in the Northeast part of the USA, or live in Dallas and train at Simuflite.

[CJ750]

I agree but for us in South Africa it takes about 21 hours of flying and about 5-6 hours of sitting in airports and a good 6 to 8 hour time change and that is just on the first day. There after it is the exchange rate that kills the costs .

But it has to be done.