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markjayne
3rd Apr 2008, 16:04
Not sure whether I've posted these in the right place but here goes...
A few shots from Cad West 27th March 08.
I think the Tonka GR4 is ZG752/129, but if anyone could confirm this I'd appreciate it.
Mark
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn261/markjayne/Tornado1.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn261/markjayne/F3-1.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn261/markjayne/GR4.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn261/markjayne/HawkCockpit-1.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn261/markjayne/Hawk2-1.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn261/markjayne/Hawk3.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn261/markjayne/Hawk4.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn261/markjayne/Hawk.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn261/markjayne/C-130.jpg
MightyGem
3rd Apr 2008, 18:01
Excellent shots, Mark. The video's (http://www.rcflights.co.uk/) pretty good as well.
peppermint_jam
3rd Apr 2008, 20:14
It is indeed 129, some fine shots you have there!
Nice work fella!
Thanks Mark. The video's are excellent - keep putting them up - it's so good to see the still work in motion...:D
Corkers, Mark! You really hit the sweet spot using the teleconverter on the GR.4! Love the black and whites.
P_J is correct. The GR.4 is ZG752. You can just make out the serial on the first image, and the code (129) on the tail of the third image.
Image of ZG752 caught at RAF Marham a couple of months ago.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK---Air/Panavia-Tornado-GR4/1299296/L/
Cheers
TJ
markjayne
4th Apr 2008, 14:47
Thanks for the comments guy's and for the confirmation that it is ZG752.
TJ...
Just noticed that the number is just visable under the wing on the first GR4 shot, I never noticed that before :O
I'd only just managed to fit the 1.4 TC on when the Tonka came through.
Mark
Shaft109
4th Apr 2008, 15:46
Why do the Tornadoes (both types) have their slats down? Or does it just look that way?
peppermint_jam
4th Apr 2008, 19:06
Manouvers are out, it extends the flaps and slats slightly to give more manouverability at lower speeds when selected.
<pedant> although in those shots the wings ain't fully forward so you don't get any mvr flap, only mvr slat </pedant>
And those pics are so good I can almost taste them. Thank you markjane.
Hi Mark, loved your latest video of Cad West, great job! Just wondering what camera did you shoot these pics with? Only because I'm thinking of buying a DSLR in the next couple weeks and your photos look incredible. Thanks.
Mike
peppermint_jam
5th Apr 2008, 09:35
although in those shots the wings ain't fully forward so you don't get any mvr flap, only mvr slat
Good point well presented!
Mike,
Mark uses a Nikon D200.
Apologies 1.4g
TJ
markjayne
5th Apr 2008, 13:54
As TJ mentions, I use a Nikon D200 and Nikon 300mm f4 lens combined with a TC 14 teleconverter, this converts the 300mm to 420mm. I also used a BushHawk 320D shoulder mount.
Mark
Thanks TJ and Mark. I got looking into the D200 and now even considering the D300. One final question though, for the shots that Mark took - would I need a teleconverter aswell as the 300m? Or would a 300mm lens on its own do the job?
Thanks, Mike
1 Zulu Alpha
5th Apr 2008, 17:31
Great pictures and video Mark,:D
Who sings the accompanying soundtrack on your latest Cad East video and 'your first video'?
markjayne
5th Apr 2008, 18:14
Mike...
A 300mm will suit most locations. Although I used the 1.4tc at Cad West is was probably too much. I had to stand right up the top of the hill and when the planes flew through I couldn't get them in the whole frame, but I decided to use the 1.4TC to capture them as they approached, the first GR4 was shot with the converter on. Its always nice to have it, just in case you need to draw them in that little bit more.
1 Zulu Alpha...
Thanks for the comments. The sountracks are by Amy MacDonald.
Mark
Can I just say Mark, music soundtracks are good, but there is something just about capturing the "roar"....(excuse the pun..raw) sound of the "jets" in the valleys - particularily on occasions when you're treated to some "turning & burning". From many years past, when a friend and I used to search out such - long before it was really possible to capture the image - we'd have dreamed to achieve the results you guys get - brillant.
In my experience there was something magical about the sound, each type having it's own, often made and changed with manoeuvering. Am I right in thinking the Typhoon has a bit of a "blue note"?.. especially when its putting on the coals and hauling around the corners?...Oh what fun:D
No doubt you still appreciate the contrast of the moment, between the raw noise, shattering the tranquility in those flashing moments and the on-going magic of the surroundings. We used to compare it with fishing, not that I've fished, but it appeared to have parallels, waiting, oh the waiting... often admiring the scenery and in my case sky scapes, ears pinned, trying not to be fooled by the wind. Then, suddenly, something - picked up on the horizon, or a sound, a distant one, but yes, something and if we were lucky it was coming our way...all noise & balls...
Do you get much of a heads-up from your "rigs"? We used to plug in common "low-fly" freq's, local London Mils (Scottish, Eastern, Borders in our day), ICF's and anything else we thought might help, Studs for the bases of the a/c we expected/hoped may grace us! Anything really just to try and give is some heads-up......Happy days.
Anyway keep up the good work and thanks for getting "brass monkeyed" for the benefit of this viewer...:)
Shaft109
6th Apr 2008, 19:14
thanks for the answer re slats. Are they extended automatically under computer control or manually selected? I'm thinking here of the Mirage F1 or maybe the F-14 with auto sweep.
Set Me Free
7th Apr 2008, 09:27
Does anyone have any of a Hawk on the afternoon of 3 Apr from the Maccy loop area of Wales, or the 4 Apr from NE England/SE Scotland?
Not sure of the tail numbers but think it may have been XX179 and XX313?
Awesome phots and video Mark. Thanks for sharing.
passpartout
7th Apr 2008, 17:46
The manoeuvre slats on a Tornado are actually semi automatic, and voice activated.
Thirty seconds after rolling out of a turn, the nav says, "Manoeuvres" and they then retract.
Dysonsphere
7th Apr 2008, 20:33
Damm good Video liked the music as well.
Set Me Free wrote
Does anyone have any of a Hawk on the afternoon of 3 Apr from the Maccy loop area of Wales, or the 4 Apr from NE England/SE Scotland?
Not sure of the tail numbers but think it may have been XX179 and XX313?
XX313 through Cad Pass on the 3 Apr appears on the following website.
http://www.warplane.co.uk/
You can register, or simply use this contact form and they should be able to link you up with the photographer.
http://www.warplane.co.uk/contacts.htm
TJ