Air Macao: Captain arrested on board!

[the shampoo finished]

A Brasilian Captain was arrested on board of an Air Macau aircraft when he was set to departure on a Flight to Taiwan.
While still on the bridge during the crew change he violently attacked a Chinese First Officer from the incoming Flight. The agression took several minutes and the local FO had to receive medical treatment at the hospital due to severe laceration on his face.
The boarding was suspended and when the police was called the wild Brazilian Captain locked himself inside the cockpit for several minutes resisting to police orders. After that he was arrested and taken to the police station.
All this is the result of the indiscipline accumulated for several months that have been ignored by the unexperienced Director of Flight Operations and a third choice Chief Pilot. The image and the safety of the Company are now severely affected by this abnormal incident and they are the responsibles.
This is the right time for the Chairman of a Company that belongs to Air China and the Civil Aviation Authority of Macau to investigate these unconcious ahead of the flight division. Shame on you!

[the shampoo finished]

It's the same old story which involve a female cabin crew according to the latest information.
Today Air Macau will make an announcement to the press to explain the events caused by this savage Brazilian Captain and we are looking forward to see what excuse they will find. Let`s see also what the Company will do with those incompetents ahead of the flight Operations.

[BUSTRASH]

We should not beat up on a fallen tree. Imagine the guilt trip all involved have. Remember regardless what happened, its still fellow aviators in a bad moment. Lets not make it worse for them here in this forum. This forum is to help aviators, not make it worse.

[speedtwoten]

BUSTRASH

This forum is to help aviators, not make it worse.

it is not make it worse, but an fellow aviator with this temper:\ he is taken a wrong profession either to joint a gangster team in Brasil or be a sparring partner with Mike Tyson:ok: can you image this happen to you at 41000 ft with speed at .86 Mach :}

[A310Capt]

At least one real :D"colleague" :D, on the strict sense of the word. Totally agree with you, it is the hell of a bad moment within that group, and - unfortunately - the accident is right around the corner. Tension has been rising beyond limit for quite some time and nothing was done to create a minimum number of "relief valves"...let's just hope it is not too late:confused:.

Nice flights to all of you...:ok:

[the shampoo finished]

Dear Bustrash, the fellow aviator on a bad moment that you are talking about should think twice before commit this atrocity that is causing the discredit of the pilots on this Company and we still have some good aviators here. He don`t deserve any help or mercy, only a ticket back to the Amazon Forest with all respect to the animals.
What we should talk about is the discredit on the flight operations management and that the lack of pilots don`t justify everything. That`s why this barbaric incident happened. Start from the top.
It`s clear the DFO and the CP can`t deal with indiscipline among other things in order to be popular. There are no meetings, no communication, no information about the Company, no new SOP, dezorganisation on the flight training, lack of punctuality and indiscipline. So drink and talk.

[BUSTRASH]

Come on. A fellow aviator in a bad moment, or a moment of temp insanity. Instead of turning on him, we should at least find out the truth and get are collegues help like in other professions.

[Joker's Wild]

The following article appeared in the Macau Daily Times today:

http://www.macaudailytimesnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6936&Itemid=28


A Brazilian Air Macau captain allegedly attacked a fellow company worker and local co-pilot at around 8:15pm on Saturday night, leaving him in hospital with several injuries.
While changing crew at the Macau International Airport, after the company's flight NX001 from Beijing landed in Macau, and which was scheduled to depart to as flight NX 660 to Kaohsiung in Taiwan, the Brazilian captain, named Arthur “violently hit” local co-pilot named Zane, after the latter disembarked from the plane.
The incident which took place at the airport's boarding area near gate 3, was witnessed by both flight crew, ground crews and passers-by.
Police were called to the scene immediately, and once at the airport proceeded to arrest the Brazilian captain, while the local co-pilot was then taken to Macau's public hospital, Conde Sao Januario, for medical treatment.
The co-pilot suffered “several traumas,” but it is still unknown whether or not he has been discharged.
Once a new captain was found to replace and fly the plane outbound to Taiwan, the plane took off after a 50 minute delay.
The company's pilots and crew were unreachable for comment yesterday, however, most local media received text messages on mobile phones informing them of the incident.
It is still unknown what triggered the Brazilian captain to such action against his fellow worker and co-pilot. But it is believed this is the first incident reported.
However, it is expected that Air Macau will take action in order to avoid such incidents in the future.

[Arremeteu]

Gentleman, Gentleman! Take it easy. Wait for the facts. It’s too early to take conclusions. Lets start with real facts. If you remember, a couple of months ago, I wrote about an crazy F/O who attacked several Captains. That was just the beginning. We all new that something like this would happen in Air Macau. It was just a question of time. There is no rule or law in Air Macau. CP should have done something to stop this violence escalade. An example should have been done at that time with that mad F/O. Now it is too late. This was already discussed here, and everywhere were Air Macau people gather. Now today, was the final result of a lack of leadership, inexperienced Management, and “Godfathers”. Lot worse was the event of the F/O who attacked several Captains (verbally and physically), but nothing was done. Why? Because of his Godfathers, because of the actual CP, and because none of the attacked pilots were Chinese. And now? What kind of “sentence” will be applied in this case? Same facts, same problems, but different people! Where is this going? F/Os lost their respect towards Captains, and no punishment? I am sure that this Brazilian Captain has to buy a car from the VPFO, or an expensive watch from one of the Instructors in order NOT TO HAVE A PUNISHMENT!!!!! Other people did it in this Airline. For an upgrade, or for not to be fired after reporting sick from a party (where he got drunk and had a fight), or to be nominated as Instructors. For any reason there was a gift or a party, or a dinner. Shame on you all!!! VPFO, you just love to hide behind your desk. Chief pilot you should be ashamed of yourself from doing nothing. You should have resigned when you didn’t take any action towards that crazy F/O. Safety Officer? Somebody??? Nobody! Zero!! Nothing was done. You are all there just for the Status, CV and money/power!!! Shame on you all!!! Capt. A., I hope you all the best. You shouldn’t have done that. Now you have consequences. You are a nice guy, I like you. Wish you good luck, and you are not alone.

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Dear DCTPAPA,you need to enforce your command in another place because here your radio silence is not working. But I recognize that you are a smart man that make good observations.
So I will try to help you with your radio. So try to pull some CB`s and revise the loss of communications procedure. then impose the radio silence 3. Regards

[speedtwoten]

assholesbuster, I did not fly Airbus, it is for B744, and I imagine if that happen on long flight with B744.:p

the shampoo finished, you see how this Brasilians reply it is time for them to go back to the Amazon Forest with all respect to the animals.

Arremeteu you are inside Air Macau it is look only you who do not joint the Circus from Brazillian:ok:

[VMMC34]

Arremeteu you are back!!!

How much we have missed you and your funny perspective of the life of all pilots in Air Macau!!!!

So let me get this straight that you said, F/O argues with Captain, not OK, F/O should be fired.

Captain punches F/O, and you feel sorry for him? Poor guy...

Did I get that right?

Absolutely no comments then....

[Arremeteu]

No, you got it wrong. What I am saying is, that if CP didn’t had the guts to do something couple of months ago regarding the Portuguese F/O, then he shouldn’t do anything at all to this Capt. Both of them are wrong, and both of them should be punished. They should have to pay for their actions, or CP should apply the same “sentence” and nothing would happen. Management, they keep hiding behind closed doors and they love it. Or perhaps pilots, who do mistakes, should give some gifts to management in order not to be punished. Like your friends did. Like your friends who most of them are not here anymore because they had to leave, liked to receive. Otherwise they would go after them as Instructors or friends of Instructors, until they were kicked out of here. Like the Mafia! It is shameful that because of this management nowadays, everybody can do whatever they want and not get punished. But at least they don’t get any bribes. I hope that if they start to punish pilots for their actions now that they also apply to that mad Portuguese F/O and some crazy Portuguese Capts, as well as to some Brazilians. I don’t care about Nationalities, I just hope that respect for Pilots would come back, and that discipline would be reinforced. By the way, yes, I like this Capt. and I wish him good luck and all the best! Which doesn’t mean that I approve what he did. Got it???!!!!

[SIVAM]

Hey Man Come On! How Do You Expect To Become A Captain With This Attitudes. Lets Solve Our Problems Inside The Company Ok? This Forum Is To Help Each Other, Not To Gossip About What Happens Inside The Company. If You Are Not Happy With The Vpfo, Chief Pilot Or Any Of Your Colleague, Be A Man And Tell Him In Person. Think About It Ok! No Offenses, But To Be A Real Captain You Gotta Have Attitude, Inside And Specially Outside The Cockpit. Regards.

[BUSTRASH]

Everybody should go purchase the Macau Daily News. This alteration over a women has been spun by the local wannabe media and its nobody reporters into something racial. There asking for his head and we should not give them the satisfaction. Suspension with pay and therapy should be the solution for all 3 involved.

[DoctorDoctor]

Arremeteu take 2 aspirins, I am sure you have a lot on stock...:oh:
And I recommend some viagra, for sure you have some sexual issues...:D

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Dear Bustrash, the fellow aviator on a bad moment that you are talking about should think twice before commit this atrocity that is causing the discredit of the pilots on this Company and we still have some good aviators here. He don`t deserve any help or mercy, only a ticket back to the Amazon Forest with all respect to the animals.
What we should talk about is the discredit on the flight operations management and that the lack of pilots don`t justify everything. That`s why this barbaric incident happened. Start from the top.
It`s clear the DFO and the CP can`t deal with indiscipline among other things in order to be popular. There are no meetings, no communication, no information about the Company, no new SOP, dezorganisation on the flight training, lack of punctuality and indiscipline.
They are poor in decision making at management level and they must leave in order to restore the safety and the credibility of the Company.

[FlyingCroc]

Sounds scary, no way I would fly with these guys nor would I apply for job with these immature bunch :eek:

[BUSTRASH]

Flying croc. Nobody is asking you to fly here anyway. And no It wasnt the same guy that flew ar Qatari

[alvega]

HAVING FUN, GUYS?

What a sorry bunch, all of you!!

[the shampoo finished]

The structure is shaking. Some hide :cool:, some avoid :oh: and others show signs of despair :eek:. At least we talk :ok:. Bye for now.
Regards

[SIVAM]

You Are Part Of This Alvega. Maybe The Passive One, But Still Part Of It. I Agree, We Should Get Together To Discuss About The Pay Rise That Didn't Come, The Housing Allowance, The Tickets Policy That They Came With Now, And Perhaps Call A Meeting With The Ceo And Tell Him Our Position, Of Maybe Grounding The Acfts If They Don't Show Some More Respect With The Pilots. But My Question Is? Do You Have Balls To Do That? How Many That You Know Have? Or You Will Give The Same Excuse: Oh, Nobody Wil Do It! I Think That These Are The Issues We Should Be Discussing, Not Even Here, At Our Association. Ah, But We Don't Have One. That's Maybe Where All The Problems Begin. But Instead, Some Low Fo's Like The Ones We See Here Are Using This Space To Highlight What Goes Inside The Company. Is This A Man's Attitude? You Should Be Sorry For Them, Mr. Because I'm Only Replying What They Say. And Perhaps Feel Sorry For Yourself Also, Who Does Nothing To Make It Better. AND BESIDES, I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU THAT DON'T AGREE WITH THE VPFO, OR CP, ARE MAN ENOUGHT TO GO THERE AND TELL THEM, OR EVEN WRITE DOWN WHAT YOU WRITE IN HERE, SIGN AND SUBMIT TO FLT OPS. IM SURE YOU WON'T BE JEOPARDIZED, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO PORTUGUESE THERE, FORTUNATELLY. I THINK YOU ARE ALL OLD ENOUGH TO PUT YOUR NAME UNDER WHAT YOU WRITE, INSTEAD OF HIDDING OURSELVES UNDER NICKNAMES THAT YOUR CHILDREN WOULD CHOOSE BETTER ONES. AND YOU CALL YOURSELVES CAPT????? COME ON...ONLY IN AIR MACAU YOU ARE SO CALLED CAPT!!!!! LIKE YOU SAID, I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU GUYS.

[DoctorDoctor]

Get the Fu... out of Macau all of you, I am sick of all of you go back to your lousy countrys we don't need you here all you care is about you big fat accounts and your great houses that you have in your countrys that was payed with the salary that air macau pays you, you are allways moaning and moaning about how bad and miseral his you lifes with your housing alouances and your 70 hours per month.
a LOCAL F/O was bitten by a cap that is wrong ,and that is it, he better lieve Macau... we will se you cap around, Bustrash don't you come here defend the cap, saying that we are all pilots, i didn't see you here when the frustrated arremeteu come here with that sick acusation of the F/O that we all know that is not true, he didn't atack anybody and we all know.shampoo,SIVAm and all thet rest of you that come here just to complain and to get your maney and go, go now to your lousy countrys and leave us alone here. you dont like anybody that is in the managment no matter who, you dont like the chief pilot you dont like the training mngr you dont like the safty, you don't like nobody you just like to complain, VDFO please pay them before the end of theyr contracts so that they can go away, we don't need them, and you arremeteu it was apleasure to fly with your brother he is a good man and a great pilot the only bad thing that he did here was bringing you to air Macau, you are bad fun soi we dont like you you look like the Archibald of Rotterdam,you had conflicts with every body and you still have , a cap theaten you to ded in the midle of flight operations, you disrespect a cap before you where promoted to cap we didn't like as a F/O and we don't like you as a cap, you have a sick hate you are sick you are the one who should look for medical help I feel sory for your daughters and family, you are racist against every body or you think we dont feel it you are racist even to your felow portuguese go away you are a bad person.
and to the rest of you that use this site take out you racist ,and personal atcks back to your losy coutrys stop conplaining about Air Macau and specialy about Macau go away we don't need you we will get somebody else to fly, and leave the rest of us who realy enjoy living in Macau in peace.
Cap A we will see you around....:ouch:

[BUSTRASH]

DoctorDoctor, either your high on crack, or your english has room for improvement.

[alvega]

"The hotel is full" and the brain is empty.

[emirmorocan]

Air Macau is more interesting than EK management posts in the Middle East forum.:}

[Boeing737jock]

Guys just Hired some Canadian!:ugh:, we come to kick the hell of your Brazilian!


why you just send those idiots out?


jock

[emirmorocan]

Boeing737jock:Macau
"Guys just Hired some Canadian!:ugh:, we come to kick the hell of your Brazilian!


why you just send those idiots out?"


Are you sure that you are not brazilian?:E

[speedtwoten]

emirmorocan :

Air Macau is more interesting than EK management posts in the Middle East forum

just watch in Middle East "FLY SAMA" have started with all Brasillians Samba pilots by hiring only Brasillians, because the top managements are Brasillians, it will end up just like AIR MACAU:\

[Air Macao Pilot]

Bustrash, Please be nice to our colleague. I admit that there may be room for "DoctorDoctor to improve his English. But so do all of us, since English is not our mother tongue, and neither of us, which I believe, is a lingual professor. We should indeed appreciate that he has a gut to state what he thought.

Back to the thread, as a professional commercial pilot, I would like to point out a few things, which are professionalism and emotionalism. It is very difficult for me to accept the fact that Capt. "A" actually physically assaulted his co-pilot right before all the airport staff, flight attendants and pax at the airport. Don't forget we are professional mate. All the pax lives are depended on our sense of professionalism. What had the co-pilot had done to Capt. "A"? Did the co-pilot sleep with his wife? Did the co-pilot kill his whole family including the rats at his home? The answer is "No". So why did Capt. "A" take an unnecessary move to embarrass himself, his own race and all pilots in the rest of the world? Although the aviation market nowadays is favorable to us, do you really think other airlines will be crazy enough to take someone who can't even able to manipulate his own emotion? I am sorry Capt. "A" you may have jeopardized your aviation career. Losing your own licenses may be the "price" you have to pay for it.

It is very sad to see that this may be a consequence for Capt. "A". Since he has devoted his entire life in aviation and tried very hard to reach a position as a captain in airlines. But I believe this is a very reasonable ending for anyone being brutal.

I am here to pledge that Chinese pilots are not sand bags or cattle. We are no different from other aviators in the rest of the world. We do have to work our ass-off in order to get jobs in airlines. We do have to travel to different countries to accumulate our flying experiences just like Capt. "A" or whoever. We may not have what you boys so called "Heavy turboprop or Jet Experience" But don't forget where you come from. Who doesn't start with C-152/ PA28-161 when they first got their aviation careers rolling? We are just a group of aviators, which is not as lucky as you boys, having enormous amount of opportunities to build up experiences in various types of aircraft in a well-established general aviation industry, where back in your countries.

Chinese pilots are not stupid, but indeed we are being humble and polite. I am here to urge you all, please don't humiliate your own races anymore by acting like plumper asses/ racists and be globalists.

[VMMC34]

Air Macau Pilot,

That was a pathetic post, I do not know if you are a Chinese, but you want people reading your post to believe you are one.

So if you think that the argument that led to a fight between the Chinese F/O and the Brazilian Captain was race related, then you are totally wrong, and you are just creating more unnecessary hate among your fellow Chinese pilots towards the foreigners.

So what are you trying to achieve here? Chinese pilots are not sand bags? We got that part... don't forget that your current VPFO is a Chinese, your next CP to be very soon is a Chinese :oh:, every Chinese Captain is being promoted into Instructor regardless of their seniority or skills.

I'm sorry Air Macau Pilot, looks like the Chinese have it better than others, so stop complaining....

[alvega]

Gentlemen,

The stench of this unfortunate event has already travelled far enough as it is. Let's all show some dignity and self respect and have this issue closed once and for all. Enough is enough.

[Just_Du_It]

SIVAM - "show some respect with the pilots"? How much respect you think we deserve? Pilots fighting at the terminal means management, customers, and Macao people now have no respect for NX pilots. Now we all lose points on our CV, and you ask for respect? You are crazy.

Plus all the QAR events I have seen/heard by Captains and FOs, and all the pilots with "you are a piece of s@&t" attitude on the flight deck.... I have never seen so many crazy people make such big % in one airline. Are you proud of NX and the people in it? On average, the pilots show the same problems and motivation as the rest of this great company.

Even if the FO in the fight said something, is this excuse to hit him at the airport? This Capts affair was no secret - the cabin crew talk about it for months, so why not hit all of them as well? The Capt was very stupid to (a) have affair in small country Macau, (b) with cabin crew, (c) at airport (d) in uniform. If you want to defend this Capt, or make life difficult for this FO, be careful.

:ouch:

[FerrypilotDK]

Hmmm interesting. This morning I walked into a crew flat to report that the car was back, and was attacked, completely unprovoked, by a (guess!) Brazialian pilot! I had an argument with this guy, as I happened to believe that fuel is important. (landing with 1300 pounds, struck me as insane, in fact) but that was in December and I haven´t seen or talked to him since......sick puppies, these macho Brazilians. I think I will strike the country off my holiday list!

5 stitches later......wondering what our wonderful management is planning to do with this guy!??

Probably promote him!

[speedtwoten]

wondering what our wonderful management is planning to do with this guy!??

They can't do anything they even right now under training by the Brassilians to be the member of the "Amazon Indian" and be shameless human.

What a sh:mad:t pilots this Brasillians, useless human being