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Doha_lad
7th Feb 2008, 07:35
Of interest to any maritime types out there...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2253568,00.html
Navy used goats in submarine experiments, MoD reveals
Richard Norton-Taylor
Thursday February 7, 2008
The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/)

The Royal Navy used goats to test whether it was safe for sailors to escape from stricken submarines because their skulls are a similar shape to those of humans, the MoD revealed yesterday.
The little-known experiments to avoid submariners getting the bends were revealed in a written Commons statement by the defence minister, Derek Twigg, which also announced that the practice was to be abandoned.
Live goats have been used for decades at the navy's base in Gosport, near Portsmouth, as part of research into the effects of different degrees of decompression. The animals were placed into hyperbaric pressure chambers to induce sickness.
"They were never placed under water and they were not alone. Other goats were in there too," a defence official said yesterday.
Six goats were killed in the course of more than 400 experiments between 2000 and 2006. More than 120 were humanely killed after the experiments under Home Office regulations, according to the MoD.
The experiments were suspended last year. The French navy had already stopped using live animals for the research, the Dr Hadwen Trust, a non-animal medical research charity, said. Goats had suffered brain damage and other "hideous effects", said the trust's Wendy Higgins. "It is regrettable but inevitable that warfare causes human suffering but it is totally unethical that we should add to this the unnecessary suffering of innocent animals," she added.
Mike Hancock, Lib Dem MP for Portsmouth South, said he was "absolutely delighted" by the MoD's decision.


So goats and submariners have similar skulls:E:E:E

No suprises there then :D

ZH875
7th Feb 2008, 08:11
Will the remaining goats be transferred to the RAF Rolling Goat program?, as it appears they need more and more goats. :)

airborne_artist
7th Feb 2008, 08:30
So goats and submariners have similar skulls

They also smell much the same ;)

Widger
7th Feb 2008, 09:09
Other goats were in there too,"


Well that's all right then!

Flarkey
7th Feb 2008, 09:32
apparently there's a website that the goats can discuss issues about the trials...

http://www.u-goat.co.uk

Gainesy
7th Feb 2008, 09:57
Well at least the goats didn't have someone in the chamber with them who'd had a gutfull of Ruddles and curry the night before.:uhoh::yuk:

Wensleydale
7th Feb 2008, 11:19
Another example of the Nanny State?



...only kidding.

'Chuffer' Dandridge
7th Feb 2008, 12:07
Just another example of double standards amongst our current Government. Making a goat sick or giving it the bends is unacceptable, yet animals (including goats) having their throats cut in cold blood to provide a source of halal meat for some dodgy religion is perfectly acceptable....:rolleyes:

Best not mention the pigs on Foulness Island then....No not the ModPlods..