flying academy. questions of foriegn student.

[fishroy]

hello
my name is roy and i am 22 years old from israel.
i would like to find a flying academy that leads you all the way for being a first officer.
i am looking for a place that can give you a stuedent visa for two years. the reason is that i can get all the liecences in the first year and also get to a reasonble number of flying hours in the second year as a flight instructor.
is there a place that guarantee that you will stay as a flight instructor in the academy you have graduated??

also i have heard about acadamies like delta that sponsers you untill graduation i you will work for them. is that true?

thank you very much.
waiting for your replay.
roy

[No_Speed_Restriction]

Hi,

All depends if you want to be based in Europe or the US. Have you considered flying/working in Israel?

Regards,

איתן

[Captain_djaffar]

the only one i know is in south africa...safta.
they got a guaranteed employment ab-initio professional program.

[fishroy]

untill now i have cosidered only in the u.s
that's only because i understand the prices are more reasonble.

and eitan what do you mean considered flying/working in israel?

roy

[LOOKUP]

I'd start with the very basic Q. before taking it any further, and thats do you have a working permit for the US/EU ? That would be your starting point and from there you can take it forward.
Pls feel free to ask it all, but unfortunatly I can't give you any advise regarding the US cause I have no idea whats going on with that market, only EU.

Best of luck!!

עומר

[No_Speed_Restriction]

Have you considered doing your training in such places as Shirgal, Herzliyah airfield? once you have your ALTP you can then try the airlines in Israel.

[fishroy]

no i don't have a working permit.
but i understand that if you go to an academy they can arrange for you a two year student visa. then you can get all the liecences in one year and gain some flying hours in the second year as a CFI.
thats why i am also looking for a place that will probably hire you as an instructor after you graduate.

No_Speed_Restriction for your question: offcourse i thought about it. but it will take me a few years and a very very large amount of money to do it in israel. i don't see the benifits of doing it in israel.

roy

[No_Speed_Restriction]

What about coming to England and doing it here? I know it is a little more expensive but there are places that would take you on as a flight instructor where you can build your hours up.

[Captain_djaffar]

PHOENIX EAST AVIATION...@ www.pea.com (http://www.pea.com)

They offer 2 professional programs one with cfi,cfii and the other one cfi,cfii,mei.

once you complete them you stand the chance of qualifying as an instructor for the particular school for a duration of only one year if you aren't a u.s citizen.
Concerning the instructor job with them,i had the secretary telling me on the phone that till now 99% of those who wished to instruct upon completion of professional programs have had it.
(It was 11 months from now since i phoned...i chose JAA training moreover for particular reasons)


try to get in contact and get uptodate...they'll send brochures.
good luck

[fishroy]

thank you Captain_djaffar. phoenix looks like a good school to consider.

No_Speed_Restriction i think the prices in the u.k are much higher. if you can show me a good place i'll thank you.

have anyone heard about u.s flying academy (http://www.usflightacademy.org/)? it looks pretty good. prices are more reasonble and they say you can stay as a CFI after your training.

roy

[Adios]

You cannot work in the US if you enter the country on a student visa. The schools that offer instructor work can only do it for overseas students if they sponsor them for a work permit. This will accomplish what you want, so the fact you'll have two different visas is not really important. Your student visa will be revoked if you finish training earlier than you were projected to, as the school will have to report that you are no longer training with them. TSA and Homeland Security are very strict and monitor overseas students closely, especially those who come for flight training!

[Captain_djaffar]

entirely agree with adios.

But to be more specific about the visa system...the school is authorized by the State Department to issue the J-1 visa for those trainees who wish to take part in the Exchange program.
Its the particular exchange program that will allow you to work for a specific limited amount of time under many restrictions.

Hey fishroy...get in touch with the school to reach a conclusion...b'coz i think all main issues have already been discussed on this thread concerning your situation.
cheers.