PhoenixDaCat
13th Jan 2008, 21:58
Back in December I was extremely lucky to have a back seat trip in an F3 with 111 Sqn. I was allowed to take a camera up with me, and naturally took a few pictures, and also a few short snippets of video.
I uploaded these to YouTube, so that I could share my experience with friends and family, and marked them all as private, so that no one could see them without being invited to, or so I thought. I accidentally failed to hide one of the videos of a loop.
A YouTube user added a comment to the video warning me that the video shouldn't be public, due to the OSA and MOD requirements. I removed the video and sent a private message response to the user, thanking him for his advice.
Below is the exchange of messages that have since taken place. All messages are cut and pasted. The spelling is as he typed.
Forgive me if I am wrong, but I'm not entirely convinced that he is who he says he is, but I might be mistaken :}
Jan 07, 2008, 3.25pm
Me> Cheers for the heads up re the F3 video.
WalterOk thankyou for doing this. I am a Sqn Ldr, but the persone had no right authorizing you to post this unfortunatly. If he was caught he could be arrested for breaking the official secrets act aswell. Authorization is too come from the MoD. They are the only people that are able to authorize such videos being posted on internet sights.
Thanks Again
Sqn Ldr CS Thompson, 25 Sqn Flight Crew.
Jan 07, 2008, 3.29pm (Similar message to 4 min ago)
Walter
Thankyou. The person you asked should not of authorized. Only the MoD can do this, if these videos are caught in one of their random sweeps across the interent, they will prosecute you, you understand? I am a sqn ldr and have been asked many times about these videos and i always say no to cover my back.
Sqn Ldr CS Thomspon, 25 Sqn, Flight Crew.
Jan 10, 3.38pm
Me
How come over at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI-U3-9UO0w you are an airman? Very quick rise through the ranks that.
Jan 12, 8.30am
Walter
several people use this acount at 25sqn. We decided to make 1 account for everyone here. And seeing as im a higher ranking person, i think you need to grow up and resight the official secrets act again. YOU of all people should no that posting these videos is illegal. The MoD has been told about these videos and a swift reply from them assures, action will be taken on those who post videos like these.
If you would like to take this further, im sure i can arrange for an appointment with an Air Commodore. We will see who is smart then, because your feet wouldnt touch the ground, and your ass would be in prison for these videos and you wouldnt be able to fight the case. There is enough evidence here to put you and your Gp Cptn in prison for a long time.
Im sure you dont want to be kicked out of the RAF with dishonoury leave do you?
At this point a mate suggested I should ask him a few questions.
Jan 12, 3.58pm
MeA few questions for you then:
What did your current Station Commander used to fly?
Who's the JENGO on 25 Sqn?
and what is your GPTN number, and when can I call you to verify you are who you say you are? Also, given that I can't find you in DDirectory, a service number would help me to verify you are who you say you are.
Jan 12, 8.50pm
Walter
Ok i've had several emails forwarded to me about you, and i have had enough. I have warned Sqaudron Leader CS Thompson, and i am now warning YOU, as your superior officer.
As you seem to think CS Thompson is not a real person please see the following link under flying section, following his promotion this month:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/index.cfm?storyid=448ACE56-1143-EC82-2E111BE3B6648C56
I am also concerned on how you think grammer is important in QUICK messages. The RAF Police contacted me erlier warning me about this issue, and the case has been cancelled.
In my opinion the both of you are showing the RAF up.
He is correct in what he says in: Breaking the 'Official Secrets Act 1989' Please see section - 2, subsection (2).
This ends now, and it will return to 'civilised' conversations.
I have more important things to do, rather than dealing with officers beaving inapropriately.
Please contact me to make sure this is understood.
And please note this is a friendly message.
Wing Commander JC Prescot - Commandng Officer 25 Squadron.
This guy is a muppet of the highest order, as he has commented on another F3 video, posted by someone else, where is claims to be an a/c techie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI-U3-9UO0w
This guy's account, 25boysontheground, http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=25boysontheground, has been closed over night, and the latest message, from his Wing Commander, comes from a new account, http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Overloadedwarhead2
I really find it hard to understand why someone would want to make out that they are something that they are not! Oh, and for my sins, I'm VR(T), which I know to some is akin to being a Walt in itself :}
PS - When I had my CAT2 medical, the SMO told me that I would see how pilots are superhuman. My hat goes off to you. How you can do a job in all of that flight safety kit, in such a cramped environment, for hours at a time, in peace time conditions, never mind war, is beyond me.
And many thanks to 111 Sqn for a fantastic day.
I uploaded these to YouTube, so that I could share my experience with friends and family, and marked them all as private, so that no one could see them without being invited to, or so I thought. I accidentally failed to hide one of the videos of a loop.
A YouTube user added a comment to the video warning me that the video shouldn't be public, due to the OSA and MOD requirements. I removed the video and sent a private message response to the user, thanking him for his advice.
Below is the exchange of messages that have since taken place. All messages are cut and pasted. The spelling is as he typed.
Forgive me if I am wrong, but I'm not entirely convinced that he is who he says he is, but I might be mistaken :}
Jan 07, 2008, 3.25pm
Me> Cheers for the heads up re the F3 video.
WalterOk thankyou for doing this. I am a Sqn Ldr, but the persone had no right authorizing you to post this unfortunatly. If he was caught he could be arrested for breaking the official secrets act aswell. Authorization is too come from the MoD. They are the only people that are able to authorize such videos being posted on internet sights.
Thanks Again
Sqn Ldr CS Thompson, 25 Sqn Flight Crew.
Jan 07, 2008, 3.29pm (Similar message to 4 min ago)
Walter
Thankyou. The person you asked should not of authorized. Only the MoD can do this, if these videos are caught in one of their random sweeps across the interent, they will prosecute you, you understand? I am a sqn ldr and have been asked many times about these videos and i always say no to cover my back.
Sqn Ldr CS Thomspon, 25 Sqn, Flight Crew.
Jan 10, 3.38pm
Me
How come over at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI-U3-9UO0w you are an airman? Very quick rise through the ranks that.
Jan 12, 8.30am
Walter
several people use this acount at 25sqn. We decided to make 1 account for everyone here. And seeing as im a higher ranking person, i think you need to grow up and resight the official secrets act again. YOU of all people should no that posting these videos is illegal. The MoD has been told about these videos and a swift reply from them assures, action will be taken on those who post videos like these.
If you would like to take this further, im sure i can arrange for an appointment with an Air Commodore. We will see who is smart then, because your feet wouldnt touch the ground, and your ass would be in prison for these videos and you wouldnt be able to fight the case. There is enough evidence here to put you and your Gp Cptn in prison for a long time.
Im sure you dont want to be kicked out of the RAF with dishonoury leave do you?
At this point a mate suggested I should ask him a few questions.
Jan 12, 3.58pm
MeA few questions for you then:
What did your current Station Commander used to fly?
Who's the JENGO on 25 Sqn?
and what is your GPTN number, and when can I call you to verify you are who you say you are? Also, given that I can't find you in DDirectory, a service number would help me to verify you are who you say you are.
Jan 12, 8.50pm
Walter
Ok i've had several emails forwarded to me about you, and i have had enough. I have warned Sqaudron Leader CS Thompson, and i am now warning YOU, as your superior officer.
As you seem to think CS Thompson is not a real person please see the following link under flying section, following his promotion this month:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/index.cfm?storyid=448ACE56-1143-EC82-2E111BE3B6648C56
I am also concerned on how you think grammer is important in QUICK messages. The RAF Police contacted me erlier warning me about this issue, and the case has been cancelled.
In my opinion the both of you are showing the RAF up.
He is correct in what he says in: Breaking the 'Official Secrets Act 1989' Please see section - 2, subsection (2).
This ends now, and it will return to 'civilised' conversations.
I have more important things to do, rather than dealing with officers beaving inapropriately.
Please contact me to make sure this is understood.
And please note this is a friendly message.
Wing Commander JC Prescot - Commandng Officer 25 Squadron.
This guy is a muppet of the highest order, as he has commented on another F3 video, posted by someone else, where is claims to be an a/c techie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI-U3-9UO0w
This guy's account, 25boysontheground, http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=25boysontheground, has been closed over night, and the latest message, from his Wing Commander, comes from a new account, http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Overloadedwarhead2
I really find it hard to understand why someone would want to make out that they are something that they are not! Oh, and for my sins, I'm VR(T), which I know to some is akin to being a Walt in itself :}
PS - When I had my CAT2 medical, the SMO told me that I would see how pilots are superhuman. My hat goes off to you. How you can do a job in all of that flight safety kit, in such a cramped environment, for hours at a time, in peace time conditions, never mind war, is beyond me.
And many thanks to 111 Sqn for a fantastic day.