Twelve-hour checkin

[Phil_R]

I just read a book which implied that anyone being flown to Iraq from Brize Norton was required by the RAF to turn up what seemed an extremely long time before flying.

Is this so, and if so, why?

Thanks,

P

[Marly Lite]

Phil,

The book implications are wrong. 2 Hrs is last check-in. Been through enough times to know!

End of dit. Hopefully.

[HEDP]

Not quite end of dit...........

Thats not quite true if you have to go through South Cerney as all troops have to in order to endure the quoted 12 hour (or thereabouts) pre deployment torture designed purely to ensure that you are definately not fit for anything on arrival at your destination.

HEDP

[Climebear]

HEDP

The original question was about wether the RAF requires a 12-hour check in. Marly Lite answered that it (the RAF) does not.

However, the great purple machine (not the RAF) does require some people (particularly unit moves) to go through the 'torture' regime that is the Joint Air Movements Centre (formerly the Army Air Movements Centre that should give people a clue to who drives the requirement).

[HallamPilot]

Oh Great!

I have a 12 hour drive followed by a 12 hour wait later on in the year!

What's the flight time out to Basrah?

HP

[minigundiplomat]

What's the flight time out to Basrah?

HP


It's the time it takes an aircraft to cover the distance between Brize and Basrah, but thats not important right now!

[Climebear]

What's the flight time out to Basrah?

Zulu; but that's not important right now either!;)

[HallamPilot]

Yes.

I expected nothing less.

For those who require a modicum of clarity:

How long will it take a member of Her Majesty's Royal Air Force to transit from Royal Air Force Brize Norton, Oxfordshire, to Basrah International Airport, Iraq?

Via the standard route, using the standard aircraft for pax transfer.

In Hours.

Zulu or Local is fine.

If, of course, it's not too much trouble.

Do I have to get clearance, Clarence?

[Phil_R]

Thanks for the info, though it does prompt a further question:

Joint Air Movements Centre (formerly the Army Air Movements Centre that should give people a clue to who drives the requirement).


Whassat? Why? What for?

Thanks,

P

[Climebear]

HP

Pedant mode on.

Her Majesties Royal Air Force :confused:

Is that the same as Her Majesty's Royal Air Force?

Pedant mode off.

Phil_R

Whassat? Why? What for?

They appear to be the same questions that everyone asks when using that facility. ;)

[Combine Harvester]

Phil,

The JAMC is used for unit moves; individual pax are not normally required to transit through. It is used to chalk units and hold them, segregated from other units where required. Basically, it frees up the terminal at Nause Brighton when there are multiple ac moves happening concurrently. It also has accn available, which, GWH notwithstanding, NB does not. So, in answer to your question, a 2 hr check-in at NB should be fine when you fly to TELIC.

CH

[Phil_R]

I'm not flying to TELIC (and extremely pleased not to be given the tales of explosive limb removal I've recently been perusing). The reason I asked was because the Army seem to whine about it quite a lot, and it seemed best to get both viewpoints before forming an opinion.

Combine: thanks for the answer, but to push my luck, it doesn't really seem to address the point of why units have to spend 12 hours there. I mean, if they weren't there so long, they wouldn't need accomodation.

The example in question was 1 PWRR deploying to Iraq for their tour in 2004; this would presumably come under the heading of a unit move.

[Climebear]

Hoist by my own pedantry. The correct title is the Joint Air Mounting Centre.
It is run by 55 MC (HQ) Sqn, (http://www.army.mod.uk/rlc/units/29_regt/55_mc_hq_squadron_/index.htm)29 Regt RLC. If they don't post on here you may try asking the question of them on the RLC forum (http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewforum/f=30.html) in ARRSE.

[randomname]

AIDU

Yes but only if you're in the UK

[L J R]

Where are my scissors, my eye needs poking out.

[Il Duce]

12 hour checkin?? That's a long time to cook - must be a big bird. You could always turn the oven up a bit.

[HallamPilot]

Thanks very much Mike, truly appreciated.

HP

[HallamPilot]

Hoist by my own pedantry. The correct title is the Joint Air Mounting Centre.

As previously stated, pedant mode on:


Hoisted - Simple past and past participle of To Hoist.

One is hoist "with" one's own petard, not "by" it.

Although,Shakespeare used "hoist" as the past participle for the archaic verb "hoise" (= to raise aloft).

A petard was a medieval small bomb used to blow up gates and walls when breaching fortifications.

Being referred to as a pedant, or pedantic, is generally considered insulting. However some people take pride in being a pedant, especially with regard to the use of the English language.

Pedantry can also be an indication of certain developmental disorders. Those with Asperger's tend to obsess over the minutiae of subjects, see report:

Asperger's Syndrome: Guidelines for Assesment and Diagnosis by Ami Klin, Ph.D., and Fred R. Volkmar, M.D.
Yale Child Study Center, New Haven, Ct. Published by the Learning Disabilities Association of America, June 1995


Pedant mode off.

[Climebear]

If it's good enough for Shakespeare...;)

A play on his words seems fair game to me.