Jar 25

[B767PL]

What is a JAR25 aircraft?

I've asked around and it seems everybody has a different answer. I looked for the JAR25 thing online and couldnt find much on it, maybe i'm not that good at searching.

Does a Dash-8 qualify as a JAR25? Even the -100 series? Is it true that the airplane must weigh over 44,000 lbs Max-Takeoff weight in order for it to be a JAR25 aircraft?

Yes I need JAR25 time to waive the JAA ATPL 6 month conversion course. Also, speaking of that; Is there one online that I can take? The conversion course? Thanks in advance. :}

[Dick Whittingham]

It is a turbine powered large aeroplane certificated under JAR 25 rules, which are roughly equivalent to FAA 25 rules. Start with:
http://www.easa.eu.int/doc/Agency_Mesures/Agency_Decisions/CS-25%2520Consolidated%2520version.pdf
Dick W

[B767PL]

Thank you for the reply, Dick Whittingham.

Unfortunently the link you posted is not working, do you have another?

Thanks :)

[redsnail]

It took a while but try JAR 25 (http://www.jaat.eu/publications/jar_amdts.html) amendment 13.
There's a lot of other info about JAR-FCL 1 and other wonderful stuff guaranteed to have you asleep within seconds.

I've just read some of that and you'll be asleep in a nanosecond.
I've tried searching for the list of JAR 25 and JAR 23 aircraft but I can't find it easily.

Any way,

Here's a simple definition between the two that should guide you.

JAR—23:- Normal, Utility, Aerobatic and Commuter Category Aeroplanes
Airworthiness standards for the certification of aeroplanes in the normal, utility and aerobatic categories that have a seating configuration, excluding pilot seats, of nine or less and a maximum certificated take-off weight of 12 500 lbs or less (5700kg); and propeller-driven twin-engined aeroplanes in the commuter category that have a seating configuration, excluding pilot seats, of nineteen or less and a maximum certificated take-off weight of 19 000 lbs or less.
Eg, Twin Otter, Bandeirante, King Air, Metro

JAR—25:- Large Aeroplanes
Airworthiness standards for the certification of multi engine turbine-powered aeroplanes with a maximum take-off weight greater than 5700 kg.
Eg, Shorts 330, Dash 8 (any of them), B737, Bae 800

[Dick Whittingham]

Sorry, 767, the url was about three pages long, and I probably missed a bit. Try the easa.eu.int main page and search internally. Or search easa on google. Trouble is, I couldn't find a list of aircraft either, bur Redsnail is right on.

Dick

[B767PL]

Hey Redsnail and Dick Whittingham, thanks for replies and the help.

That link redsnail posted, as he said had me knocked out cold after just a couple of sentances. :}

Thanks again for the links and help, just what I was looking for :ok:

[pugzi]

Just a note, JAR 25 is to be replaced, and probably has already been replaced by the equivalent EASA document called CS 25 (Certification Specification 25) since the JAA is at it's last fews breaths. Here is CS 25 (http://http://easa.europa.eu/doc/Agency_Mesures/Agency_Decisions/CS-25_Amdt4.pdf) It's a big file in PDF!
Here is all the Certification Specifications documents http://easa.europa.eu/home/rg_certspecs.html

[B767PL]

Thanks pugzi for that.

I am just curious, what do you mean that the JAA is at its last few breaths?? :confused:

[redsnail]

JAA is being morphed into EASA. Not sure what the benefit will be but I am sure it won't be cheap.


Psst, I'm a she but no offence taken. :}

[B767PL]

hehe, sorry about the mix-up Redsnail :sad: :O

So JAA is being morphed into EASA.. interesting.

Is the EASA going to be any different from the JAA, or is it just a different name? Is converting FAA to JAA licences going to be easier in any way shape or form????? :}