RAF Upwood

[Epsilon minus]

Would any readers of this thread have any photographs of this airfield, in particular the officers mess, which is now very sad neglect.

[deltahotel]

Not me, but I'll ask my dad who was there in late 50s, early 60s

[samuraimatt]

http://www.rafupwood.co.uk/


http://www.rafupwood.co.uk/new16.jpg

[ZH875]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/ZH875/Upwood_O_Mess.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/ZH875/Upwood_G_Room.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/ZH875/Upwood_SHQ.jpg

All from 'The Royal Air Force in Cambridgeshire - Part 4' by John F Hamlin ISBN 0 9511813 4 3

[paddyboy]

Google 28dayslater.co.uk and search Upwood.
Fantastic site, fantastic people and contrary to popular belief... No(well hardly any) illegalities.;)

[FATTER GATOR]

So, what used to happen at RAF Upwood? I guess that was even before my generation (and I went to nav school at Stradishall).

[FATTER GATOR]

Just looked at the RAF Upwood website.

What a wonderful history, so closely linked to the Canberra and a proud history as a bomber base. Infrastructure still appears largely intact. May have to swing the old MG by there the next time I'm down that way.

God I miss the cold war, all those old Sqn's, all those lions rampant on mullets addorsed, so proud.....so pissed. Never mind.

I'm proud to be in the RAF and I'm proud that the young sweats call me a crusty old f:mad:er. Going to bed with a brandy and a fat wife. What more could an RAF chap ask for.

[Avitor]

Early WW2 years saw Bleheims opperating at Upwood, later Lancasters.

I lived 5 miles to the North of Upwood during WW2. I would be in my bed and hear Lancasters, up to 20 of them at short intervals. The Merlins flat out, fully loaded, struggling for height, rattling my bedroom windows.

I was not to know that a large percentage of those young boys were on their last sortie.

Or that an engine failure would be the end of me. Those WW2 Tech boys must have been magicians, ferreting around for spares.

I saw the crews in Ramsey (then Hunts) visiting the George Hotel.

[pedroalpha]

I was an RAF kid at Upwood in 1950 (ish). There were at least two Lincoln squadrons there in those days and we kids had the run of the airfield. I seem to remember a long hot summer and that the Lincolns were parked with the rear side hatch open. Of course - we climbed inside and I remember clambering over the huge main spar to get to the cockpit. I remember listening in bed as my father's squadron got airborne for night training - the noise still haunts me. Then, I would lie awake until they returned; you cannot imagine the constant drone of 15 Lincolns in the circuit!!!

Later, Meteors arrived at Upwood and we kids sat in the hedge on the end of the runway, breathing paraffin with our hair streaming back in the jet efflux.

I also set fire to the box hedge outside the CO's house when playing with matches!!!

Happy memories,

pedro

[Epsilon minus]

Thank you for the pictures. Does anyone have pictures of the inside of the mess?
RAF Upwood has a prestigious operational history with 2 bomber sqaudrons and a pathfinder squadron. Young men that died in the service of their country lived in the Officers mess there. It is a massive travesty that it should be allowed to fall to ruin and be vandalised by local chavs who clearly have no respect or knowlege of the fallen.

[Bretters]

My uncle lost his life attempting to land at RAF Upwood on his return from a bombing raid over Cologne on the night of 30/31 Jul 1941. He was flying Hampden AE266 from 61 Sqn, based at North Luffenham. For some reason (I think bad weather) they attempted to land at Upwood and crashed short of the runway. There was one survivor of the crash, a Flight Sergeant Harry Scott, who died only recently. His obituary was in the Telegraph here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/news/2007/10/22/db2201.xml). I had always wondered who the survivor was and if he lived through the war, and now I know (but just too late). The members of the crew were:
Pilot Officer Patrick James Neil Adshead
Captain (Pilot)
aged 23
Flight Sergeant Scott
Observer
injured
Flight Sergeant Rex Ronald Boyce Durtnall DFM
Wireless operator/ Air gunner
aged 21
Sergeant Kenneth Marcel Fillmore
Air gunner
aged 23

[Epsilon minus]

These pictures are fantastic compared to what it looks like now

http://www.rafupwood.co.uk/new5.jpg


http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9960/img6990zb7.jpg

[Martyn Northall]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/Nortmar/UpwoodAerial20079.jpg

Here is an aerial picture taken on a flight from Conington-Le Touquet(Via Sudbury) on the 15/11/2007. Thought it might be of some interest :)

I actually live on the housing estate, backing onto the airfield. You can see it just to the North of the existing runway.

[r supwoods]

I can see my house on there ... Martyn must be my neighbour :eek:

[aw ditor]

Excellent Pic! Thought there was a Gliding Club there now?

[Martyn Northall]

There is a gliding club just to the left of the image. Fortunately, as I can see the site from my house, I know when I can fly overhead. Also this flight was during the week and they only operate outside of working hours.

Here is a picture of the gliding site(bottom right):

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/Nortmar/UpwoodAerial200731.jpg

@R Supwoods: Yes, it seems I must be your neighbour! I live down Malthouse Lane. Quite a nice area but can be a bit quiet for my liking

[r supwoods]

Ah... the cheap end

[Wader2]

IIRC it was the College of Air Warfare before it moved to Manby. At least the Manby is being taken care of by a district council even if they don't like the rate payers actually visiting the place.

[r supwoods]

Manby airfield is now home to a company offering Car Driving Experiences = Car Track

[Padhist]

What a sad meander through this thread. I was a pilot on Canberra's 1956/1958

Paddy Grogan

[A2QFI]

I was there for a few days in mid 1961, when it was the Aero Med Training Centre. We were given some fairly harsh training as were going to a relatively high altitude and had to wear the Taylor Helmet and pressure jerkin. I recall that we were taken from 25k ft to about 50k and taken back down to 25k. Most of us finished up with a strange red spotty rash on our torsos and one or two ruptured their eardrums but didn't know about it until they took their helmets off and had blood running out of an ear. There was also the unalloyed pleasure of wafts of Ruddles based carbon di-backside to jolly things along!

[petermcleland]

I did that Aviation Medican Course at Upwood in about 1962 or 63, when I was a Lightning Simulator instructor...I remember we trained for about a week for that explosive decompression...For the training we were strapped into a disarmed bangseat in a classroom and we wore the kit but were pressure fed just neat air. All the stuff inflated and we had to learn to breath against the pressure.

Quite difficult really as in normal breathing the body makes a slight effort with diaphragm etc to INHALE and just relaxes to EXHALE...When you have air or oxygen being fed into your mask with the toggle down to stop leaks, if you RELAX just slightly, a gale rushes into your nose and mouth and inflates your chest to its maximum...Then you have to strain to EXHALE it by blowing strongly to get all that air out again...Slight relax...Gale up nose...Blow strongly and so on and on.

It is quite amusing and slightly frightening as you wait your turn watching the guy in the seat...The pressure comes on and he turns down the mask toggle...His pressure vest and G-suit are inflated, but there is nothing around his neck! His neck inflates out sideways like some sort of bullfrog!

On the big day you pre-breath 100% oxygen for about and hour before carrying your portable supply with you down to the decompression chamber...You have already been wired up with electrodes and as you enter the chamber and strap into the seat, the Doc plugs in all his wires so that he can monitor your physical state from outside.

The chamber is closed and up it goes slowly to about 24,000 feet...You are then given a warning that it is imminent and that your first action must be to turn down that toggle...You are also asked to keep replying to a "Thumbs Up" query with a similar gesture if all is well...You sit and wait...

BANG!...a frightening bloody great bang and the place fills with vapour and you are now at 56,000 feet...Wrestle the toggle down...feel the pressure coming in start to PRESSURE BREATH...just as you have been doing in training all week...stay calm BLOW...slight relax...GALE up nose BLOOOOOW....Thumbs up to doc through the window...BLOOOW! They bring you fairly quickly back down to sea level and you climb out with some relief.

Well, that is the end of the course really and you can go off back to base :)

[Epsilon minus]

Interesting stories, thank you.
I am keen to learn how many medals were awarded to service men and women stationed at Upwood. I have applied to the RAF Museum for access to their libray. The search will not be easy so any pointers in the right direction would be appreciated .
Regards
EM

[aw ditor]

From one who keeps his overdraft in Ramsey:- suggest you also contact the Air Historical Branch. You may find Squadron Form 540s' which are an "operational record" will help so you will need to discover which Units were at Upwood 1939 to 1945 as a first step.

Good Luck, AD

[Art Field]

I did the ground instructional technique (GIT) course at Upwood 68-69 time, I think it was by then some sort of school for Handbrake House branch, certainly not used for aviating anymore. Incidentally the GIT course was one of the best courses I ever did and the doubtful pleasures of the March Cabaret and Gaming Club helped to fill the evenings.

[Epsilon minus]

Thank you for this information. To save me a lot of travelling do you know if this information is available online?

[Exrigger]

Epsilon minus, for the units try this link here:

http://www.rafweb.org/Stations/Stations-U.htm

and for some records if the link works try here as well:

http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/6F107421-ED25-4E7B-A741-444CD91C4010/0/RAFSquadronsOperationLogBooks.pdf

and you might find some usefull gen here:

http://www.rafupwood.co.uk/

[adrian mole]

I attended a SNCOs Management Course at RAF Upwood in 1974. It was there I learnt all about time & motion and critical path analysis during Lightning Brake Chute packing exercises and the like at Little Snoring. Happy days - rudely ended by a Unit recall for Operation Agila, the Turkish invasion of Cyprus.

[goudie]

SNCOs Management Course at RAF Upwood

I too attended this course in '70. I thought it was an exellent course, lessons learnt stood me in good stead a few years later in civvy street.

[Epsilon minus]

What became of the swimming pool? was it filled in?

[UAV689]

what is upwood used for now? does anyone own it? some recent pictures show quite a few cars parked there???

[serf]

Were RAF airfield buildings a 'job lot' - they look very similar to current Guardroom and SHQ at EGQL.

[Croqueteer]

:)Got to agree, the "GIT" course in 1970 was the best course I did in the RAF. In the intro talk, we were told that they took the best bits out of a 3 year teacher training course and expanded them to fill two weeks. My wife (ex Ripon TC) was not amused.

[Scribbly520]

It was, in fact, the Secretarial Training School until it moved to Cranwell in 1976. The buildings are a 'job lot'. The station was built as part of the 1934 expansion scheme to a generic design by Lutyens, approved by the Council for the Preservation of Rural England and the Arts Council. The give-away is the Officers' Mess frontage and the C type hangars.

[Epsilon minus]

The design and build of these buildings is extremely robust and renovation would not be difficult. The architecture as aesthetically pleasing but it is the history attached to them, especially the Officers Mess, that could create a business case for preservation and as such unlock local government safes. My time is limited so research is non exestant at the moment.
As an operational station during WW2 there was two squadrons of Lancasters and one squadron of Mosquitos (path finders). I would wager that more than a few medals for bravery were earned by aircrew during thoses years, many of whom would have lived in the OM.

[ZH875]

As an operational station during WW2 there was two squadrons of Lancasters and one squadron of Mosquitos (path finders). I would wager that more than a few medals for bravery were earned by aircrew during thoses years, many of whom would have lived in the OM.

Possibly the highest awards at Upwood were awarded to men who had no connection with the Officers Mess, being part of the Royal Air Force, that is usually kept hidden and not talked about in public, namely the Erks.

On the 12 March 1940 at approximately 1000 hours there was an accident involving two Blenheims.

The two aircraft L6596 and L8845 collided just after becoming airborne and finished up a short distance apart, both caught fire. L6596 fire was confined to the engine nacelles and the occupants were able to escape from their aircraft.

The Pilot and sole occupant of L8845 was rendered unconscious. LAC Champion and AC1 Frost were the first to arrive at the scene. AC1 Frost searched for the wireless operator not knowing the pilot was the only occupant of the aircraft.

Once AC1 Frost had completed his search for the wireless operator the aircraft was well alight. Suffering from the effect of the fumes, AC1 Frost joined LAC Campion in rescuing the pilot which they did with the aid of a fire-proof blanket. The cockpit by this time was surrounded by flames and in imminent danger of the main petrol tanks exploding. After rescuing the pilot, a short time afterwards the petrol tanks did explode and the whole aircraft was rapidly burnt out. The pilot unfortunately died from his injuries. Wing Commander A. Leach (Commanding Officer, No. 90 Squadron) and Flight Lieutenant D. R. Biggs were withnesses of the rescue. In view that both of these airmen were not members of the flying crew of either aircraft, it is considered that the award for the Air Force Medal might not be appropriate. AC1 Frost and LAC Campion was recommend for either the Medal of the Order of the British Empire or the Empire Gallantry Medal.

L8845 was under the command of Sgt Alphonse Roger Hermels 517823 of 35 Squadron while an unidentified Mark 1 Blenheim of 90 Squadron was under command of Sgt Blanks. Sgt Blanks was uninjured in the accident but Sgt Hermels had severe back injuries and was trapped in his cockpit. Hermels died later that day from his injuries.
L.A.C. Campion and A.C.1 Frost was awarded the Empire Gallantry Medal, which was automatically exchanged for the George Cross by the terms of the institution of that award in September 1940. The London Gazette of 5th July, 1940

[PictureClear]

http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=23503&highlight=raf+upwood

[Epsilon minus]

Possibly the highest awards at Upwood were awarded to men who had no connection with the Officers Mess

This implies that you have a list of medal earners. Would you please share with us?
EM

[ZH875]

EM, the information was gained from http://www.rafupwood.co.uk/

[sidtheesexist]

During latter stages of WW2, 156 Sqn Lancs PFF and 139 Sqn Mossies were stationed there. There's a stone memorial on the roadside near an entrance to the camp. There is a company (Turbine something or other) now utilising some of the hangars - they overhaul gas turbines. I drove in and had a snoop around a while ago. On youtube there's an 8 mins film called I think 'Lanc mainforce take off' It features genuine WW2 colour footage of lancs, some of it shot at Upwood and I think tother station is probably Hemswell in Lincs........

[Epsilon minus]

The company is Turbine Motor Works and the undertake engine overhaul for large aircraft. They are curently overhauling GE CF6-80A2 for a B767 operator. It is good to see that an aviation connection continues.
The OM offers excellent potential for the future and it is this potential that I would like to see pay for its sympathetic renovation, preservation and upkeep.
EM

[Epsilon minus]

Station HQ WW2 Ops board.
Is it common to have the ops room in the station HQ?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LMGA56QX3Xs

[philrigger]

;)
EM

Station HQ WW2 Ops board.
Is it common to have the ops room in the station HQ?

According to 'British Military Airfield Architecture' by Paul Francis;

"The standard operations room for stations under the Air Defence of Great Britain Scheme was a brick-built bungalow-like building to 1161/24. It accommodated up to three squadrons. At bomber stations a similar building (1211/24) was used, built immediately behind the station headquarters and connected to it by a corridor. At fighter stations it was often a detached building which required a basement to house a heating chamber. This was omitted at most bomber stations as the operations room was heated from a heating chamber in SHQ."

Any help ?




'We knew how to whinge but we kept it in the NAAFI bar.'

[Epsilon minus]

Excellent. Thank you.

[Epsilon minus]

http://www.rafupwood.co.uk/dfm156.html