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Lightning Mate
20th Aug 2013, 07:12
Airspeed Ferry?



MReyn24050
20th Aug 2013, 07:49
You are correct Trevor. Not the Courier, however it is the Airspeed AS.6 Envoy 1. Should have checked H A Taylor's book first.

SincoTC
20th Aug 2013, 08:07
Hi Mel,

however it is the Airspeed AS.6 Envoy

Airspeed Envoy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airspeed_Envoy)

That's the one, well done! :D I though I was going to have a "Morten moment" until I double checked and saw my challenge did have two throttles :)

You have control :ok:

MReyn24050
20th Aug 2013, 08:12
Hi Trevor. Thanks here is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz488_zps3f6b4275.jpg

Noyade
20th Aug 2013, 10:01
Hi Mel. Just a crazy stab - especially since the last one was an Airspeed and with all that glass....maybe the Airspeed Fleet Shadower? Although I don't like the look of that chair for long patrols.

MReyn24050
20th Aug 2013, 11:47
Not the Airspeed Fleet Shadower, Graeme. In fact this aircraft was not British.

evansb
20th Aug 2013, 21:43
Beriev Be-6 ?

MReyn24050
20th Aug 2013, 21:53
Not the Beriev Be-6 I am afraid Bri.

evansb
20th Aug 2013, 22:58
NORD 1400 Noroit ?

MReyn24050
20th Aug 2013, 23:30
You have it this time Bri. the NORD 1400 Noroit :ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/nord1400-2_zpsc90ba112.jpg

You have control

evansb
21st Aug 2013, 03:35
Thanks Mel. Your source for cockpit photos seems inexhaustible!
Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Cockpit_zps96fd7be0.jpg

MReyn24050
21st Aug 2013, 17:11
Your source for cockpit photos seems inexhaustible! Getting low now Bri. Your latest looks to be a rotary aircraft.

evansb
22nd Aug 2013, 02:46
Some clues: First flight in the 1950s. Produced until mid-1960s. Mostly military users. Under 200 produced. Set a record.

MReyn24050
22nd Aug 2013, 10:51
SO 1221 Djinn I believe.

evansb
22nd Aug 2013, 16:53
Yes, Mel. You are correct.:ok: First helicopter powered by compressed exhaust gas expelled from the rotor tips. Didn't need a tail rotor either. Set a climb record as well.
On top of that, the helicopter was pleasant to fly. "Djinn" means genie in Arabic.
Your control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/HB-XAS_SO1212_Djin01_zps0bb1e1ad.jpg

MReyn24050
22nd Aug 2013, 23:26
Thanks here is the next one:-http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz489_zps4eb96df0.jpgBri.

MReyn24050
25th Aug 2013, 09:47
No takers. Time for a clue perhaps:-
Trainer, first flight early 1950s.

India Four Two
25th Aug 2013, 11:05
Mel,

Is it Polish?

MReyn24050
25th Aug 2013, 13:11
Not Polish Simon. It is European.

SincoTC
25th Aug 2013, 21:20
Good evening Mel,

A Fiat G.80 perhaps ??

MReyn24050
25th Aug 2013, 23:43
Hi Trevor. You have it the Fiat G.80. From the Ed Coates Collection.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Fiat20G80-1B_zps914f9301.jpg

You have control

SincoTC
26th Aug 2013, 07:17
thanks Mel,

A nice challenge, I believe it was Italy's first true jet aircraft!

Pleased to find this one'e not on your list
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP058_zps5a19e4c3.jpg

dubbleyew eight
26th Aug 2013, 07:27
in SincoTC's photo shows a piece of absolute engineering brilliance.

the gear in the centre can be done with two sprockets that bolt together.
the aileron control wire terminates in a chain (like a bicycle chain). one chain is fed past a sprocket then to the control yoke sprocket and then back over the other central sprocket and then to the opposite aileron cable.

by biasing the central sprockets and bolting them together you can achieve high tensions in the cables out to the ailerons while maintaining low tensions in the run to the control yoke sprocket. the low tensions mean the the pilot feels light control pressures.

the technique was also used by Piper in their cherokees. absolutely brilliant piece of engineering.

SincoTC
27th Aug 2013, 22:34
Hi W8,

the technique was also used by Piper in their cherokees. absolutely brilliant piece of engineering..

I agree, it is a clever solution, but one that was quite widely used where control can be "handed over" in a like manner, however, it's usually concealed by a snazzy cover and not left as an open invitation for a straying finger :eek: today's "Elfin Safety" would have a fit :E

By way of a clue, the control yoke's design is quite appropriate ;)

NutherA2
28th Aug 2013, 09:20
By way of a clue, the control yoke's design is quite appropriate

A Moth of some sort?

SincoTC
28th Aug 2013, 09:31
Morning NutherA2,

A Moth of some sort?

'Tiz indeed!!

Lightning Mate
28th Aug 2013, 10:03
Morning TC.

DH85?

SincoTC
28th Aug 2013, 10:11
Morning LM,

DH85?

Sorry, not a Leopard :)

Lightning Mate
28th Aug 2013, 10:31
How about a 75 then.

SincoTC
28th Aug 2013, 11:40
Hi David,

How about a 75 then

That's the one mate, the de Havilland DH.75 Hawk Moth :D

de Havilland Hawk Moth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Hawk_Moth)

Lightning Mate has control :ok:

Lightning Mate
29th Aug 2013, 08:18
Sorry mate - this will have to be OH.

Noyade
29th Aug 2013, 11:08
Here's another to be going on with then...

http://i39.tinypic.com/nzitzs.jpg

evansb
30th Aug 2013, 01:38
The giant Mil Mi-12 helicopter ?

Noyade
30th Aug 2013, 11:04
Mil Mi-12

Well done Brian - massive machine! Your control. :ok:

evansb
30th Aug 2013, 15:56
Thanks mate! This one is not on Mel's list: (although it may have been posted before)
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/encacapa_zpsbcf7e1d4.jpg

John Hill
30th Aug 2013, 20:05
Maybe a Heinkel He119?

SincoTC
30th Aug 2013, 22:37
Just having a last minute look-in before hitting the hay, but no time to delve, so just a little speculation to maybe encourage any lurkers :)

Obviously a side-by-side two seater, probably a trainer? with a fuselage mounted jet engine behind the cockpit, so that ducting must be for its air intake in the nose. The duct isn't very big, so if there isn't another duct below it and out of sight, it must have quite a small engine or additional intakes further back

Not that many like this as most of this configuration had tandem seats and the intake duct was split to pass either side of the cockpit, or were located behind it.

Oh well, I'm off to bed, over to the night shift :)

evansb
31st Aug 2013, 00:23
Not a German design, although there is a German engine connection.

aviate1138
31st Aug 2013, 07:41
French? One of their weird post WW2 efforts?

evansb
31st Aug 2013, 15:20
Oui. French. Oui, a trainer of sorts.

DIBO
1st Sep 2013, 08:51
Well it seems only the first prototype(s) had the nose-only air intake. On later prototypes they combined it with side intakes or even replaced the front intake all together with side-intakes. Difficult to see on the limited photo material available. Using side-intakes only, would have improved cockpit comfort considerably. Don't understand why they started with the nose intake in the first place....

Won't give the answer though; found it by CSI techniques, not aviation knowledge, so won't take the fun out of it...

NutherA2
1st Sep 2013, 09:51
CSI techniques suggest the MS 755 Fleuret?

If so, OH

DIBO
1st Sep 2013, 10:24
CSI says no (but of course, it is evansb's call).

/offtopic/ speaking about the MS755, the subsequent developped MS760 Paris (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Morane-Saulnier_MS.760_Paris_(MG_9734b).jpg) seems a really fun plane to fly

evansb
1st Sep 2013, 17:21
It is the early version of the SUD OUEST (S.N.C.A.) SO.6000. OPEN HOUSE.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/convair640002/16224-5-f_zps1b69f80b.jpg

SincoTC
13th Sep 2013, 22:39
The next cockpit!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP059_zps869faeeb.jpg

TheiC
14th Sep 2013, 06:34
Ouch!

Where did the cockpit-atop-the-fuselage-behind-the-other-cockpit go?

Could whoever posted it put me out of my misery?

SincoTC
14th Sep 2013, 07:34
Morning TheIC

Where did the cockpit-atop-the-fuselage-behind-the-other-cockpit go?

Could whoever posted it put me out of my misery?

Hmm, yes indeed, I too saw that cockpit up yesterday evening before I left work and thought what the :mad: is that, but when I went to look for it later, the thread was on page two of the main AH&N menu and there was no sign of it, I thought maybe I was just getting old and imagined it :uhoh: so I'd better put another one up while I was at it :).

TheiC
14th Sep 2013, 08:04
Hmmm, I thought it was a very interesting aircraft, difficult to pin down its purpose... Something vaguely agri, but signs that it wasn't. Was it a prone cockpit in front?

Regarding your challenge, it's reminiscent of Grumman's light singles (yolks, panel, quadrant), but I can't find anything quite the same.

Noyade
14th Sep 2013, 08:14
I thought it was a very interesting aircraft

Yeah I thought so too mate. :)
But it was from the outside and with two other challenges running at the time I deleted it. Sorry.

I'll pop it back next chance I get. Cheers.

SincoTC
14th Sep 2013, 08:37
Thanks Graeme,

Looking forward to seeing it again :)

Regarding your challenge, it's reminiscent of Grumman's light singles (yolks, panel, quadrant), but I can't find anything quite the same.

It is and I think its design had a strong Trans-Atlantic feel about it, but it was from this side of the "pond".

I should point out that this cockpit was of the first prototype, fitted out to represent the more luxurious of two possible offerings on their stand at a show. However the project never got off the ground.

Noyade
14th Sep 2013, 13:08
Hello Trevor.

Trans-AtlanticHowever the project never got off the ground. The Auster C6 Atlantic?

Auster Atlantic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auster_Atlantic)

SincoTC
14th Sep 2013, 14:34
That's the one Graeme :D,

I was going to say that it was a brave attempt to rid British light aircraft of the rather austere post war look, something that really foundered again until the arrival of the Beagles :(

Well done mate, you have control :ok:

Noyade
14th Sep 2013, 20:41
Thanks Trevor,

I'll try this one again...

http://i40.tinypic.com/zldjkz.jpg

Cubs2jets
14th Sep 2013, 20:47
Is this aircraft capable of flying higher than a few meters above the surface?

C2j

Noyade
15th Sep 2013, 04:44
Sorry for the delay mate, I got a phone call just after I posted this morning - "why aren't you here at work!?"

Is this aircraft capable of flying higher than a few meters above the surface?No. :)

Cubs2jets
15th Sep 2013, 12:11
Well, I've searched "Erkranoplan", "Wing in ground effect" and "ground effect vehicle". No luck so far. Few seem to have single seat cockpits. Back to the search.

C2j

TheiC
15th Sep 2013, 12:29
Thought I'd seen it somewhere before, and that does explain the pitot tube location.

Ekranoplan Strizh-M

FIG "High-speed ships" :: Our companies (http://www.hs-ships.ru/e_pages.phtm?f=2&p=24)

Noyade
15th Sep 2013, 12:49
Ekranoplan Strizh-MNicely done gents! I'm sure you would have eventually found it C2j.
Your control TheiC. :ok:

http://i42.tinypic.com/2ceg4g0.jpg

TheiC
15th Sep 2013, 12:55
Thanks Graeme,

I must go out for a while so I'll say OPEN HOUSE but may come back later if I can find something google-proof...

There's a fascination about ekranoplans/WIGEs, isn't there..? I wonder whether, if and when oil becomes seriously short, their economics will see a brief period (a couple of decades perhaps?) when they become viable for trans-oceanic transport...

Noyade
20th Sep 2013, 12:06
Another one for the weekend...

http://i39.tinypic.com/21ngpkp.jpg

India Four Two
21st Sep 2013, 05:51
Graeme,

You should have completely cut-off the words! The clothes and the spelling indicated North America and a bit of extrapolation of the words led me to:

Soon after World War II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II) the National Flying Farmers Association (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Flying_Farmers_Association&action=edit&redlink=1) in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) set up a research programme on agricultural aviation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_application). This was supported by the CAA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Aeronautics_Administration_%28United_States%29) and undertaken by the Personal Aircraft Research Centre at the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_and_Mechanical_College_of_Texas). The Ag-1, designed by Fred Weick, was the first outcome of this programme and led some eight years later to the Piper PA-25 Pawnee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-25_Pawnee), another Weick design.http://aerofiles.com/weick-ag1.jpg

A good find. I had never heard of it before. :ok:

And further research shows it is Fred Weick standing on the wing.

Noyade
21st Sep 2013, 06:56
You should have completely cut-off the words! Nah, it's all about having some fun Simon. :)

So well done, it is the Weick Ag-1. Your control mate.

And here's some more on Fred...

http://i44.tinypic.com/23kwv7t.jpg

India Four Two
21st Sep 2013, 10:17
Graeme,

What an amazing life he led. I knew about the Ercoupe and his Piper legacy, but I didn't know that he designed the NACA cowl.

A little side-note. The graduates of Texas A & M (as it is universally known) proudly call themselves "Texas Aggies", so it is fitting that the Ag-1 was designed there. The university is in College Station, which has a population of 100,000 of which 60% are students and staff, so the city has an empty feel to it during vacations, as I discovered one Christmas.

I'm going out to celebrate my birthday with some friends and to lift a famous quote, "and maybe some time."

So Open House.

Noyade
6th Oct 2013, 22:54
Clear!
*ZAP*
Sinus rhythm...

http://i39.tinypic.com/33z7o1y.jpg

con-pilot
7th Oct 2013, 17:19
It looks a lot like the early Lockheed Jetstar, but it's not.

So a wild guess, the McDonnell 220?

Nope, on second check, windshield is wrong for that.

TheiC
7th Oct 2013, 18:21
Most perplexing... An excellent challenge...

I'm convinced there's a big clue kicking around in the image.

Graeme, did this aircraft fly?

bingofuel
7th Oct 2013, 18:44
Could it be a Convair 880?

Noyade
7th Oct 2013, 19:18
Convair 880

Indeed it is mate, your control! :ok:
(heading to work now - cheers)

bingofuel
7th Oct 2013, 19:29
Thanks for that.
Nothing to post so ' open house' please.

Noyade
10th Oct 2013, 04:40
Another one. Bit older this time...

http://i43.tinypic.com/2jg87zd.jpg

evansb
10th Oct 2013, 19:21
From The Royal Aircraft Factory ?

sycamore
10th Oct 2013, 19:30
Looks like a rotary Avro 504,but the altimeter is out of period..

Noyade
10th Oct 2013, 20:24
I can't explain the altimeter Sycamore, but you have it - The Avro 504K. :ok:
Your control.

sycamore
11th Oct 2013, 11:56
Thanks ,but it`s OPEN House...

Noyade
11th Oct 2013, 23:43
That's ok mate. Plenty out there...

http://i41.tinypic.com/1zy99bt.jpg

John Hill
12th Oct 2013, 06:32
The one on the right is Valentina Tereshkova.

Noyade
12th Oct 2013, 21:34
Don't think so John. The names given are Tatyania Zuyeva and Nadezhda Yeremina and I think they set female payload and height records with this machine....

evansb
13th Oct 2013, 05:39
Kamov Ka-32 ?

Noyade
13th Oct 2013, 06:39
Mate, I'll accept that. :)

Twas the earlier but very similar looking Ka-25. All yours!

evansb
13th Oct 2013, 07:47
Thanks mate. That is very generous of you. Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/myster_cockpit_zpsec543933.jpg

India Four Two
13th Oct 2013, 08:14
Interesting panel, bri.

Western style instruments but there is that "Mig" clock again.

So is the clock a "Red" herring? ;)

evansb
13th Oct 2013, 15:57
Not really a red herring. The aircraft originates from a former Soviet Bloc nation.

India Four Two
14th Oct 2013, 06:24
Lots of light illuminating the scene. Is that the Sun streaming in? I'm having Fun tracking this one down. :cool:

Lightning Mate
14th Oct 2013, 10:18
Single lever turboprop ?

TheiC
14th Oct 2013, 12:47
Yep, need to put a good day in to work this one out. I'd start an hour earlier than most folk, but probably knock off as usual.

It looks like it is a single lever; the blue thing masquerading as a prop control is probably the google image search inhibit selector... :)

Lightning Mate
14th Oct 2013, 13:00
Romanian ?

evansb
14th Oct 2013, 16:40
Yes, it is a Romanian design.

Lightning Mate
15th Oct 2013, 06:42
Shot in the dark - IAR ?

evansb
15th Oct 2013, 16:39
Yes, it is from I.A.R.

Lightning Mate
15th Oct 2013, 17:31
825 ?.....:\

TheiC
15th Oct 2013, 18:06
Careful examination of the original image would show that the google image search inhibit selector had been carelessly left in the 'search possible' position.

Subsequent to the early models, tireless development of the aircraft led to many improvements.

The order from Romania's foremost steak-knife factory, which had been supplying the distinctive power levers, was cancelled, and more conventional controls used instead (as a happy by-product, diners in Bucharest were once again able to cut up their dinners).

The design office staff who had examined a typical western blind flying panel in a mirror and on its side discovered their error and the principal instruments of later aircraft were laid out so as to decrease by 78% (in tests) the assimilative load on pilots flying unusual attitude recoveries.

Sadly, wiring considerations meant that the switch panel to the pilot's right had to remain. Specialists in haptic sensing were brought in, along with guide dogs, to assist pilots in learning to make appropriate systems selections. The guide dogs could only be rated to -2.3 and +4.7 G against the aircraft's earlier certified limits; operations beyond those boundaries saw damage at the claw/canopy interface and unbudgeted cleaning demands resulting from the dogs' willingness to regurgitate under stress.

Finally, the demands of the modern world, and especially pressure from inhabitants of certain discussion forums, saw the ultimate development of the type.

The IAR 825prodoML (see footnote) variant was introduced to address and neutralise the threat posed by highly experienced fighter pilots whose cunning use of technology had changed the balance of power and taken the fun out of combat operations.

The google image search inhibit selector was deleted and replaced with a handy box for the pilot's sandwiches. The inhibit system was then permanently live, and the only way to identify images of the cockpit was through diligent research and application of broad knowledge and experience of aircraft.

Footnote: English: 'anti-LM'

evansb
15th Oct 2013, 18:51
LM is correct.:ok: The IAR 825, as featured in a very recent "Silhouette" challenge.
Lightning Mate has control.

Lightning Mate
16th Oct 2013, 06:45
The IAR 825, as featured in a very recent "Silhouette" challenge.

Correct.

Open House

India Four Two
16th Oct 2013, 15:33
TheiC,

Thanks for that razor-sharp exposť of IAR's cutting-edge technology.

Besides being very informative, you have corrected a fundamental misapprehension of mine. I had been working on the assumption that our famous fighter pilot was using his AI.23 radar, with Mod 42 incorporated, which enabled the now well-known Google Image Search Mode.

This mod was developed by retired Ferranti engineers as private-venture. While ultimately successful, the marriage of 1950s analogue technology with Google's latest digital techniques required several technical compromises. In particular, analogue delay-lines had to be incorporated, which meant that several passes were required before the target image was sufficiently well defined and could be locked onto.

By the time, lock was acheived, the pilot would often be approaching Bingo fuel state and would have to pass the target to other image-seeking assets, using the code words Oscar Hotel.

Fitter2
16th Oct 2013, 15:37
using the code words Oscar Hotel.


Surely WIWOLS will recall the accompanying 'Sierra Hotel One Tango' ;)

India Four Two
17th Oct 2013, 04:59
Surely WIWOLS will recall the accompanying 'Sierra Hotel One Tango'
India Four Two changing call sign to Sierra Papa Oscar Oscar Foxtrot. ;)

Noyade
17th Oct 2013, 10:26
Another one to try...

http://i41.tinypic.com/2vi46ep.jpg

fijdor
17th Oct 2013, 20:36
Cessna 140

JD

Noyade
17th Oct 2013, 21:02
Cessna 140

Well done mate - your control fijdor! :ok:

con-pilot
17th Oct 2013, 21:13
Cessna 140


A 140 or a 120? I don't see the flap handle, the 140 had flaps, the 120 did not. In either case, both are good looking aircraft.

Not trying to be pedantic, just curious.

Noyade
17th Oct 2013, 21:25
A 140 or a 120?G'day con-pilot. :)

I'm just a caption guy mate, but they can certainly be wrong. Here's the caption that went with the photo...

http://i40.tinypic.com/ip9veg.jpg

fijdor
17th Oct 2013, 21:28
The 120 had no side windows in the back I believe and we can see part of one in the pic. That was my clue.

Open house

JD

fijdor
18th Oct 2013, 01:24
Ok, here an easy one

JD

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv196/jacdor/dash_zps04f33b36.jpg (http://s683.photobucket.com/user/jacdor/media/dash_zps04f33b36.jpg.html)

Terry Dactil
18th Oct 2013, 01:58
Hey!
Someone has stolen the thrust levers, flaps and elevator trim wheel thingies.
Better be careful or the wings will be gone next.
Lucky there is that big handbrake lever to keep the brakes on, or the whole thing might have been towed away. :E

evansb
18th Oct 2013, 02:47
Sikorsky S-64 Sky Crane ?

TheiC
18th Oct 2013, 03:44
Hmmm, looks like Sikorsky but I'll vote for a CH3 rather than the Sky Crane...

TheiC
18th Oct 2013, 07:36
Further work:

It's not the CH3 variant but an S61, the civil version, I think...

fijdor
18th Oct 2013, 12:12
I am picky but you guys got it. It is a HH3 but to be precise it is a S-61R, one of the only 3 civilian version ever built.

TheiC your turn.

JD

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv196/jacdor/N664Y-1.jpg (http://s683.photobucket.com/user/jacdor/media/N664Y-1.jpg.html)

con-pilot
18th Oct 2013, 17:03
The 120 had no side windows in the back I believe and we can see part of one in the pic. That was my clue.


Good catch, I had forgotten about the back side windows. Well done. :ok:

TheiC
18th Oct 2013, 17:11
Many thanks... A smart looking machine.

I'm out until late, so can't put anything up until tomorrow morning (UK time).

I'll say 'open house' and will step in if there's nothing fresh tomorrow.

TheiC
19th Oct 2013, 08:56
Here we go:

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1377/52au.jpg

The GISIS is ON.

Kitbag
19th Oct 2013, 09:59
Early 50's British single jet? Hawker Sea Hawk?

TheiC
19th Oct 2013, 11:45
Early 50's British single jet?

Edited my earlier reply, after consideration of the aircraft lineage, to say: yes.

Hawker Sea Hawk?

'fraid not...

Rosevidney1
19th Oct 2013, 18:44
Wild guess, Gloster Ace?

TheiC
19th Oct 2013, 19:27
...not the Gloster Ace either, I'm afraid.

evansb
19th Oct 2013, 20:43
Supermarine Attacker ?

TheiC
19th Oct 2013, 21:01
Again, sorry, no...

evansb
20th Oct 2013, 03:18
Supermarine Swift, then..

TheiC
20th Oct 2013, 08:43
Supermarine Swift it is :D

An aircraft with a fascinating history Supermarine Swift - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Swift)

Here's the whole thing:

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/3245/ztf4.jpg

You have control...

evansb
20th Oct 2013, 16:01
Thank you. Interesting aircraft. Here is the next mystery cockpit:



http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/STUBB_ROSS_GUESS_zps6c8757f4.jpg

Lightning Mate
21st Oct 2013, 15:47
A glider ?

evansb
21st Oct 2013, 17:50
Yes, it is a sailplane. An American design from 1937-38.

Cows getting bigger
21st Oct 2013, 20:13
After four hours of scouring Schweizer I stumbled across Ross-Stephens. Is it the RS-1?

evansb
22nd Oct 2013, 15:49
Yes, it is the Ross-Stephens :ok: Well done :D You have control.

Cows getting bigger
22nd Oct 2013, 16:43
I'm afraid it will have to be Open House.

TheiC
27th Oct 2013, 13:12
Resurrecting the thread, and making sure we don't pick up on part V by accident...

The thick black lines do not obscure anything important or necessary to solving the conundrum, but do prevent GIS-cheating.

I have not (yet) tried reverse-engineering an image which GIS will find, but may do so later today if time allows. If I find it's possible, I'll try another tack.

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/415/y9mb.jpg

Rosevidney1
27th Oct 2013, 19:07
I'll have a stab at a QU-22B, if I may.

TheiC
27th Oct 2013, 19:19
Others here will be pleased to learn that this is definitely a manned aircraft, and is not the interesting QU-22B. Sorry.

TheiC
28th Oct 2013, 18:16
Time for a clue...

This is a variant of an established design. This aircraft holds several records.

fijdor
28th Oct 2013, 18:56
Because of the gauges ( pressure, quantities etc) to the right of the panel, I will try a Ag-Plane, like an Air tractor maybe.

JD

TheiC
28th Oct 2013, 20:30
Not an Air Tractor, I'm afraid... The gauges do not relate to agricultural application.

aviate1138
28th Oct 2013, 20:57
It's that Dick Rutan EZ-rocket - modified Long EZ ?

Gauges on right are the Lox and pressurised fuel tank I think.

TheiC
28th Oct 2013, 21:14
aviate... You're spot on. Its the XCOR EZ-Rocket.

XCOR Aerospace: EZ-Rocket Main Page (http://www.xcor.com/products/vehicles/ez-rocket.html)

XCOR EZ-Rocket - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XCOR_EZ-Rocket) (including a cockpit image)

Just an amazing aircraft, and breathtakingly cutting-edge, in such an understated, practical, fashion.

...1138 has control.

aviate1138
29th Oct 2013, 07:32
Thanks TheiC,

It will have to be Open House as I am failing dismally to find anything that hasn't already been submitted........

Onwards and upwards......

Noyade
30th Oct 2013, 10:06
I am failing dismally to find anything that hasn't already been submittedI don't think it matters much these days mate.

Here's another...

http://imgbin.me/image/WPTFFZEM.jpg

sycamore
30th Oct 2013, 15:39
Parasol,or biplane ..German???

Noyade
30th Oct 2013, 20:19
Yes Sycamore, a parasol German - with two machine guns...

Noyade
1st Nov 2013, 19:10
The cockpit belonged to the Arado Ar 76.

Open House.

Fitter2
3rd Nov 2013, 12:12
Can't let the thread disappear off the front page.

http://i41.tinypic.com/1491aux.jpg

Fitter2
6th Nov 2013, 06:57
3 days without a bite? Is anybody there?



To keep this on the front page

Lightning Mate
6th Nov 2013, 07:24
Someone is here.

Lightning Mate
6th Nov 2013, 07:36
The stick is the same as that on the Titan P-51D Mustang.

Terry Dactil
6th Nov 2013, 09:39
The truly horrible panel layout reminds me of old British aircraft, but then the modern radios and iPad mount mean it must be fairly recent. :confused:

Fitter2
6th Nov 2013, 10:10
Lighning Mate has too much time in his hands, obviously. The Titan Mustang it is, specifically this nice looking (outside) one, G-TSIM

http://i43.tinypic.com/2hhhctz.jpg

Over to you....

Lightning Mate
6th Nov 2013, 10:26
Lighning Mate has too much time in his hands, obviously.

That's because I am retired.

I have nothing suitable so Open House please.

Terry Dactil
7th Nov 2013, 10:35
OK. As it is Open House ...
Here is one where the instrument placards read like a book and it should be easy to work out what aircraft it is.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17847496/Cockpit%202.jpg
Larger hi-res image here (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17847496/Cockpit1.JPG)
I just love that red guarded switch.
It is for the benefit of the guy in the backseat in case he has not realized he is now alone!
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17847496/Cockpit3.JPG

Lightning Mate
7th Nov 2013, 10:53
I note the g-meter only goes to +3.

What kind of wimps' fighter is that !

Terry Dactil
7th Nov 2013, 11:27
Yeah. But it makes up for that with the reading it gets on the Machmeter :E

con-pilot
7th Nov 2013, 16:19
Yes, very easy, SR-71.

Terry Dactil
7th Nov 2013, 18:14
SR-71 it is. You have control con-pilot.

I thought it was a fascinating panel. You won't find many aircraft with a compressor inlet temperature guage red-lined at 430C up with the primary flight instruments, and also intake spike manual settings available for up to Mach 3.2.
Kinda narrows the field down a bit.

Although the SR-71 was famous for flying high and fast, there is a story about how to unintentionally fly it low and slow in a spectacular fashion here. (http://www.vfp62.com/SR-71_flyby.html)

India Four Two
8th Nov 2013, 04:07
At the Seattle Museum of Flight, you can sit in an SR-71 cockpit.

I was surprised how cramped it felt, even in shorts and a T-shirt. It must have been a really tight-fit wearing a pressure-suit.

India Four Two
11th Nov 2013, 13:34
Perhaps con-pilot is "on the run" ;)

In the meantime:


http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/Cockpit_2013-11-11_zps26dee292.png

Note the imaginative "basic stairstep" instrument display.

Terry Dactil
13th Nov 2013, 01:25
It looks like it is the Fisher P75
with the photo cropped from this one.
http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t552/terrydactil/FisherP-75Eagle2_zpsd42f253e.jpg
What a mongrel of an aircraft!
Built by General Motors at their Fisher Car Body plant in Cleveland, around their new under-powerd Allison engine using bits from other aircraft already in production.

Wings from the P51 Mustang
later changed to wings from the P40 Warhawk
undercarriage from F4U Corsair
empennage from the Dauntless dive bomber which was later modified

Not a surprise that it was never a success in any way.
It looked rather neat though. :)
http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t552/terrydactil/FisherP-75Eagle3_zpsad71dda1.jpg

India Four Two
13th Nov 2013, 11:53
Terri,

That's the one. You have control.

Terry Dactil
13th Nov 2013, 20:49
Thanks.
I find it interesting that British military aircraft had a standard "blind flying panel" instrument layout since the 1930's, while American military aircraft in WW2 seemed to put their instruments all over the place.

Anyway, while we wait for con-pilot to come back and claim his turn, here is a much more modern cockpit that has a few things in it that you will not find on most other aircraft.
http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t552/terrydactil/Cockpit_zpseb5b17a8.jpg

parttimelad
13th Nov 2013, 21:06
B1-b Lancer?

Terry Dactil
13th Nov 2013, 21:50
Well that lasted a whole 17 minutes!
I guess 4 engines and wing sweep made it a bit obvious :{
Well done. B1-B it is. You have control.

parttimelad
13th Nov 2013, 22:29
Back to Open House...

con-pilot
14th Nov 2013, 17:28
Back to Open House...

Yes, apologies to all, should have posted open house when I answered the SR-71 photo. Thought I did, but obviously not.

:O

gacman
28th Feb 2014, 09:45
Is there a list of which cockpits have already been done? If so, where can I find it?

SincoTC
5th Mar 2014, 06:12
Hi gacman

Is there a list of which cockpits have already been done? If so, where can I find it?

Threads that have passed beyond page 4 on the main page can be found by clicking on "Archive" at the RH end of the Blue Bar at the bottom of any page.

It was on page 16 :sad: but I'll bump it up to the front page again, good luck :)

evansb
5th Mar 2014, 23:09
Here is a mystery instrument panel:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/convair640030/instrumentpanel003_zps311e8471.jpg

India Four Two
6th Mar 2014, 02:47
Hi bri,

I'll start the ball rolling. US military, probably twin engined, three ordnance hard points, post-WWII?

evansb
6th Mar 2014, 03:42
Yes, twin-engined U.S. military, and it is immediate post-war.

India Four Two
6th Mar 2014, 04:59
The gods are smiling on me today!

There was something about the yoke that reminded me of the P-38, so I looked up "Lockheed aircraft" on Wikipedia and found:


26 P-2 Neptune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-2_Neptune) May 17, 1945 patrol bomber and anti-submarine warfare aircraft

So almost post-war ;)

Open House if correct.

evansb
6th Mar 2014, 05:48
Yes, an early version of the Lockheed P-2 Neptune. :ok:

As requested, it is OPEN HOUSE.

Noyade
6th Mar 2014, 09:32
Here's an easy one....

http://imgbin.me/image/LNVDZAIZ.jpg

aerobelly
6th Mar 2014, 20:04
Looks like Hanna Reitsch, in which case the aircraft is probably something that no-one with a well-developed will to live would like to be on the same airfield with.

Wartime German experimental then, wasn't she restricted to (setting records in!) gliders post-war?


'b

Noyade
6th Mar 2014, 20:10
Hmm...the Image Host I used has died for the moment, and the photograph is no longer visible?

Looks like Hanna Reitsch

No it wasn't Hanna and we're not in Germany.

Noyade
6th Mar 2014, 20:14
Okay, trying another host...Tinypic this time...

http://i57.tinypic.com/11vpjk7.jpg

Terry Dactil
6th Mar 2014, 20:58
It is Amelia Earhart, (ca 1930s), so the aircraft is probably American.
http://0.tqn.com/d/womenshistory/1/7/X/d/2/amelia_earhart_ca_1932a.jpg

Noyade
6th Mar 2014, 21:36
Correct on both counts Terry.......

Terry Dactil
6th Mar 2014, 22:13
Aha! You sneaky bugger with that cunning cropping. It is not an airplane, but an autogyro. Pitcairn PCA-2.
http://acepilots.com/pioneer/amelia-earhart-autogiro.jpg

Noyade
7th Mar 2014, 08:22
Well done Terry, your control. :ok:

Terry Dactil
7th Mar 2014, 10:54
OK. Try this one. About 10 years later and still looks a bit primitive, although it was an aircraft with several unusual design features.
http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t552/terrydactil/Cockpitphoto_zps37d4bf52.jpg

Lightning Mate
7th Mar 2014, 14:14
Issa Bell Airacuda methinks.


OH if correct.

Terry Dactil
7th Mar 2014, 16:23
That's it.
The Bell XFM Airacuda.
Weird machine - twin engines, pusher props and a gunner in each nacelle.
Not a good place to try bailing out from, I would think!.

LM has declared open house.

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t552/terrydactil/BellXFMAiracuda_zps6e610cdd.jpg

evansb
7th Mar 2014, 21:57
Identify the aircraft:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/convair640034/JPEG_Image_182938481199234_zpsbeb80787.jpg

India Four Two
8th Mar 2014, 10:28
Bri,

That's a very odd-looking yoke. Is this an experimental or prototype aircraft?

sycamore
8th Mar 2014, 10:43
German twin engined WW2...?

evansb
8th Mar 2014, 16:36
Not German. Yes, twin engine, WW.II. Not experimental, over 1,000 built.

evansb
9th Mar 2014, 14:21
Kinda looks a bit like a DH Mosquito...

Max speed in level flt: 295 kts.

Service ceiling: 30,000+..

oncemorealoft
9th Mar 2014, 14:47
Westland Whirlwind

oncemorealoft
9th Mar 2014, 14:49
Westland Whirlwind?

Edit: can't be that as only 116 built.

evansb
9th Mar 2014, 15:02
Not a Whirlwind, but certainly a similar category aircraft. She was a beauty, and fast..

semmern
9th Mar 2014, 16:20
Doesn't look like a British cockpit..it lacks the typical WWII-era "basic six".
I know I have seen that yoke before, but can't remember where.
Ki-102 perhaps? Or maybe a J1N?

evansb
9th Mar 2014, 20:10
Not British. Not the Kawasaki Ki-102, nor the Nakajima J1N..

CoodaShooda
10th Mar 2014, 05:15
Petlyakov Pe-3?

In the very unlikely event that I've fluked it, open house. :O

evansb
10th Mar 2014, 18:50
Not Russian. Clue: Milky Way.

Noyade
10th Mar 2014, 21:20
Ahhh....from Yokosuka? Frances?

That's a very odd-looking yokeBelated, but I think I found it...

http://i61.tinypic.com/2littoj.jpg

evansb
10th Mar 2014, 23:59
Yes !! The sleek and fast Yokosuka P1Y "Ginga" (Galaxy, or Milky Way, your choice..)

Noyade
11th Mar 2014, 01:48
Thanks Brian, a lot of clues there, so thanks for that.

Another Jap.....

http://i57.tinypic.com/k21b2p.jpg

Terry Dactil
11th Mar 2014, 06:40
Japanese + 2 seats + open cockpits = Mitsubishi Ka-8?
http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t552/terrydactil/MitsubishiKa-8_zps9b26ac08.jpg

Noyade
11th Mar 2014, 07:09
Hello Terry. Impressive imagination mate, but sorry, nothing as rare as the Ka-8. However, mine is a Mitsubishi biplane.....

Terry Dactil
11th Mar 2014, 07:57
OK. Mitsubishi + biplane = Mitsubishi F1M2 then?
(this one looks like it has the curved rear windscreen so is a better match).
http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t552/terrydactil/MitsubishiF1M2_zpsb8e70d33.jpg

Noyade
11th Mar 2014, 08:02
Very nicely done Terry, your control! :ok:

Terry Dactil
11th Mar 2014, 10:21
Thank you.
Here is the cockpit of a rather unusual design from the 1930s.
(Severely cropped so more clues can be added later if required).
http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t552/terrydactil/2063b89e-32fd-461f-a336-3abbfd0cc218_zpsa9df76cc.jpg

Noyade
11th Mar 2014, 11:00
Stipa-Caproni?

Stipa-Caproni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipa-Caproni)

Noyade
11th Mar 2014, 11:18
If it is Terry - I'll make it Open House.

Cheers mate.

Terry Dactil
11th Mar 2014, 12:09
You got it!
Well done. I thought some clues would be required.
Although the original was demolished in 1933, there is a 3/5 replica that flew in Australia in 2001.
http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t552/terrydactil/CaproniStipa_zps3506f6ff.jpg
It would have to be in the running for the World's Ugliest Aircraft prize!
Noyade has declared Open House.

evansb
26th Mar 2014, 21:46
Identify the aircraft:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/convair640067/panel_zps285251aa.jpg

John Hill
27th Mar 2014, 05:02
G-AGPD Miles Marathon?

evansb
27th Mar 2014, 05:28
Miles Marathon is correct. Your turn.

John Hill
27th Mar 2014, 05:30
OH please as I am about to go out for a while.

John

Noyade
27th Mar 2014, 06:15
Another Brit then....

http://i57.tinypic.com/2hscefn.jpg

Noyade
28th Mar 2014, 21:36
From Sopwith....

Kitbag
28th Mar 2014, 22:41
Of the many (20+) Sopwith designs I'll plump for the Salamander

Noyade
28th Mar 2014, 22:48
Hello Kitbag.

Not the Salamander - think of a name for a fish...

Noyade
28th Mar 2014, 23:08
And a photo clue mate...

http://i58.tinypic.com/bhareu.jpg

NutherA2
28th Mar 2014, 23:35
Snapper? In the unlikely event of being correct.......OH

Noyade
28th Mar 2014, 23:39
Well mate, it's not unlikely - it is the Snapper. :ok:

Sopwith Snapper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopwith_Snapper)

We have Open House.

http://i57.tinypic.com/v75pmu.jpg