What Cockpit? MK VI

[asw28-866]

thanks Mel, forgotten my password to the picture hosting site, so Open House while I regroup.

'866

[Father Dick Byrne]

While '866 is racking his brains...

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7656/img1284resized.jpg

[Kitbag]

This made me think of the Supermarine flying boats; Sea Lion maybe?

[Father Dick Byrne]

Not a Sea Lion, I'm afraid...

Think less big cat and more Liverpudlian vernacular query, as well... At least that's how it might sound...

[sycamore]

Is this a pusher then,as the throttle linkage goes backwards ?

[Kitbag]

Might have had a chance if you'd suggested a Liverpudlian singer.

[Father Dick Byrne]

Sycamore,

Yes, both throttles go aft from the cockpit...

Kitbag,

I think I've been hoist by my own cryptic petard... Not sure what you mean...

[MReyn24050]

Might have had a chance if you'd suggested a Liverpudlian singer.

I think I've been hoist by my own cryptic petard... Not sure what you mean...

Is he referring to the Supermarine Scylla? Cilla Black the Liverpudlian singer!

[Father Dick Byrne]

Time for a clue perhaps...

The chap behind the manufacturer sounds heavenly...

[Lightning Mate]

A flying boat?

[Father Dick Byrne]

No LM, not a flying boat...

Don't be put off by the throttles...

[Lightning Mate]

I can't even see any engine instruments.

(did you get the PM?)

[sabredog]

Voisin 10 ?

[Father Dick Byrne]

LM, many thanks, I did, and I'll see how I get on when back from my travels...

Sabredog, it is indeed the Voisin 10 CA2, photographed at the fabulous museum at Le Bourget. One engine, but so far as I can make out, two separate throttles for the four butterflies - if anyone knows more about the throttle arrangement, I'd love to hear.

Sabredog has control!

[sabredog]

Open House

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/cool-4.jpg

[MReyn24050]

I believe that could be the Arion Lightning, perhaps.

[Lightning Mate]

No perhaps Mel - it is!

Your thread. :ok:

[MReyn24050]

Thanks David. Here is the next one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz402.jpg

[Father Dick Byrne]

Great challenge..!

Dornier Do Y perhaps?

[MReyn24050]

Father Dick Byrne 18 mins :D:ok:
You have control it certainly is the Dornier Do.Y
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/DornierDoY.jpg

[Father Dick Byrne]

Many thanks - really enjoyed that one.

What an odd design, the only thing missing from that foredeck was an anchor windlass!

Here is the next challenge:

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7785/fdb3.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Gulfstream Peregrine I believe.

[Father Dick Byrne]

The Peregrine it is... :)

You have control.

[MReyn24050]

Thank you Father Dick Byrne. Interesting aircraft. Here is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz404.jpg

[Kitbag]

Handley Page W8?

[MReyn24050]

Not a Handley Page aircraft Kitbag.

[Noyade]

Mel, there is a trend here with your posts lately. :)

German?

[MReyn24050]

You could say that Graeme. It is indeed German.
Mel

[Noyade]

Early post WWI Mel?

[MReyn24050]

Graeme. This one was not a combat aircraft but one designed for a special purpose within Germany and first flew mid 1920s.

[evansb]

Udet U.11 Kondor ?

[MReyn24050]

Not the Udet U.11 Kondor, Bri. This aircraft was not for carrying passengers.

[evansb]

Hmm..the mid 1920s Albatros L.72 was built to carry newspapers...would it be that aircraft ?

[MReyn24050]

There is a connection Bri as this aircraft entered service alongside the Albatros L.72.

[Kitbag]

Junkers j29?

[MReyn24050]

Not the Junkers J.29, Kitbag. This one was a conventional single-bay biplane. Only one was built.

[SincoTC]

Good evening Mel,

Nice set of clues! Is it the Heinkel HD 39 ??

Regret It'll have to an Open House if correct, as I'm back to work now!

[MReyn24050]

HI Trevor.
It is indeed the Heinkel H.39. :ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/HeinkelHD39.jpg
The Heinkel HD 39 was a special-purpose cargo aircraft developed in Germany in the 1920s to distribute the Berlin newspaper B.Z.. It was a conventional single-bay biplane with staggered wings of equal span, and a fuselage that nearly filled the interplane gap. The pilot sat in an open cockpit, and the undercarriage was of fixed, tailskid type with divided main units. The sole example of the type was built after Ernst Heinkel found out, by chance, that B.Z. required such an aircraft and had ordered two machines from Albatros. Heinkel convinced publisher Ullstein-Verlag to purchase a third aircraft from his firm.
The design was based on the HD 27 mail plane, and had a specially-designed payload bay to carry newspapers in 50 kg (110 lb) bundles. 10 separate compartments in the bay could be individually opened in flight in order to air-drop newspapers in places where the HD 39 could not land.
The HD 39 entered service alongside two Albatros L 72s in April 1926 and remained in Service until 1931, when distribution of B.Z. by air was taken over by Deutsche Luft Hansa.

As SincoTC declares Open House.

[India Four Two]

Something more modern

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/IMG_0923.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Interesting one India Four Two. The aircraft looks to be around 1950/60s vintage?

[sycamore]

Is it E European,a biplane ,twin engined ,fixed gear ...?

[India Four Two]

Mel,

No, later than 50s/60s.

sycamore,

In sequence: No (but based on a design from there), no, yes, no.

[sabredog]

Possibly a VNS-41?

[India Four Two]

Possibly a VNS-41?

Nothing possibly about it, sabredog. It's the VNS-41 microlight amphibian at the Hanoi Air Force Museum (with Uncle Ho's VIP Mi-4 in the background).
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/IMG_0914.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/IMG_0917.jpg

A friend of mine translated the sign for me:

AIRCRAFT VNS-41

On February 9, 2004, General Pham Van Tra Minister of Defense Ministry signed Decision no.175/QD-BQP to assign the VNAF to carry out a project
“ Build an amphibious microlight aircraft VNS-41”. This was a major project to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the Vietnamese Military Forces.

Project Manager : Colonel Doctor Vo Ta Que, Director of Aircraft Factory A-41
Deputy Project Manager: Colonel Doctor Vo Tri Thang , Manager of Aircraft Engine Research Dept. – Air Force Technical Institute.

The amphibious microlight aircraft VNS-41 was designed and manufactured for the purpose of forestry patrol, evacuation and training.
On December 9, 2004, aircraft VNS-41 no. 401 successfully performed its first test flight at Tri An Lake in Dong Nai province.
In 2005, the Minstry of Defense tasked the Vietnamese Air Force to improve airplane No.401 and manufacture four more aircraft.

The VNS-41 aircraft were used for training by the 916th Air Force Regiment.

Technical and tactical features: Height : 2.535m , length: 6.980m, windspread: 11.650m.
Weight: 528 kg, max.take off weight: 780kg, Crew: 2 persons, Max. speed: 115km/h,
Max altitude: 3000m. Amphibious aircraft.


Wikipedia states that it was derived from the Russian Che-22 "Korvet" microlight, and also that a Che-22 was imported from the Philippines,
so it is not clear if this example was actually built in Vietnam or was built from a kit via the Philippines. A41 Factory VNS-41 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A41_Factory_VNS-41)

After a close look at it, I decided that this would be the second aircraft on my list of ones I would never want to fly - the other is the ASW-12 (for entirely different reasons).

sabredog, you have control.

[sabredog]

Thank you,Simon.
A very good challenge.
Open House

[India Four Two]

sabredog,

Thank you. I have to say when I saw it lurking among the Migs, my first thought was "What Cockpit, here we come!" ;)

[evansb]

Okay, here is another mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP111117.jpg

[sabredog]

Hendy 302 ?

[evansb]

Terrence you are correct.:ok: The sleek and speedy (for 1929) Hendy 302. You have control.

[sabredog]

Thank you,Brian.
I am afraid it is still;
Open House.

[Noyade]

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7601/img207vm.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/img207vm.jpg/)
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2412/onea.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/i/onea.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

G'day Graeme,

Issat a Macchi MC.200 Saetta ??

[Noyade]

It is Trevor. Your control mate. :ok:

[SincoTC]

Thanks Graeme,

Here's the next cockpit.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP013.jpg

[Noyade]

Evening Trevor. Just back from a morning walk...expecting 36 deg.C today. :(

Military - 1914-1918?

[SincoTC]

Phew!! Too hot mate :ooh: We're on track for the warmest November in 300 years, despite that, it won't be Christmas on the beach here :)

Military - 1914-1918?

Right on the money there mate :ok:

[Noyade]

Looks like the last occupant left a coin in the chair? :)

Is that a wing, mounted high on the fuselage? Strut in the foreground supports another wing? Conclusion - Triplane?

[SincoTC]

It's not a tripe! The wing is high on the fuselage, but those struts don't support another wing.

Edit:
Haven't had a chance to look at your silhouette yet!, spent too much time trying to find a cockpit, every one I found was on Mels list :ugh:

Gone ten now and still had no supper :(!

[Noyade]

Gone ten now and still had no supper http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/sowee.gif!

Then I'll leave you be. Eat well and sleep well! Cheers mate. :)

[SincoTC]

No prob's mate, still cooking at the moment, the night's still young!

[MReyn24050]

Bristol Type 10 M1C I believe.

[SincoTC]

Hello Mel,

You believe correctly sir :D

It is the Bristol Type 10 M.1C

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/bristm1c-6.jpg

You have control :ok:

[MReyn24050]

Hi Trevor.
Here is the next one. Unfortunately the aircraft had seen better days.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz405.jpg
Mel

[sabredog]

Mitsubishi Ki-21 "Sally" ?

[MReyn24050]

It certainly is the Mitsubishi Ki-21 "Sally" :ok:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Ki21.jpg

You have control Terry.

[sabredog]

Many thanks ,Mel.
Open House

[evansb]

This mystery cockpit has a Canadian connection:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP111119.jpg

[Noyade]

G'day Bri.

Indigenous design? Looks like there's light under the dash in the background. I'm thinking there's some sort of hatch/hole further along?

Canadian Vickers Vancouver?

Regards
The Stabber.

[sycamore]

Can`t decide whether it`s single or twin engined,but powered by R-R,Falcon ,could be a Vedette,or a Viking ...?also,the mag.switches are still `on`..

[Noyade]

but powered by R-R,Falcon

Well spotted sycamore. Didn't notice that.

Back to looking/stabbing then....

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Vickers Vancouver, Vedette or Viking.. Are you sure they are RR Falcon motors?

[Noyade]

Are you sure they are RR Falcon motors?

I'm not sure of anything mate. :) But I can now see the "Rolls Royce" plaque.

Canadian connection

So the connection could be something else, and this is a non-Canadian aircraft?

[evansb]

The mystery aircraft has a significant place in Canadian aviation history.
The first example of this aircraft was not Rolls Royce powered, but subsequent production aircraft were powered by the original Rolls Royce Eagle aero engine.

[SincoTC]

From the clues so far, I guess it could be the Felixstowe F.3 ??

[evansb]

SincoTC is correct. In 1920, the Canadian Air Board sponsored a project to conduct the first ever Trans Canada flight. The leg from Riviere-du-Loup, Quebec, to Winnipeg, Manitoba was flown by LtCol. Leckie and Major Hobbs in the Felixstowe F.3 to determine the feasability of such flights for future air mail and passenger service.

Your turn.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/f-31.jpg

[SincoTC]

Thanks Brian,

Here's the next cockpit to track down.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP014.jpg

[sycamore]

Is it rocket powered..? German perhaps..?

[SincoTC]

German yes, rocket powered no!

[aviate1138]

I'll have a stab with the Fi-103?

[MReyn24050]

I think it is the Blohm & Voss BV 40.

[SincoTC]

Sorry Aviate, not the Fi-103

You think correctly Mel, it is the Blohm & Voss BV 40 Glider-Fighter of 1944 :D

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/bv401.jpg

MReyn24050 has control :ok:

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Trevor.
Here is the next one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz407.jpg

[evansb]

Curtiss H-12 ?

[MReyn24050]

No takers, I did not think it was that difficult. It first flew late 1910s.

[SincoTC]

Thanks Mel,

Nothing else prepared at the moment, but this one I had should be an easy one!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP015.jpg

[evansb]

Vickers Viking ?

[MReyn24050]

Not the Vickers Viking Bri. Similar type of aircraft but this was a twin.

[Noyade]

British Mel?

[MReyn24050]

The background regarding this aircraft is mixed. Both the British and the USA had a hand in it.

[Noyade]

Thanks Mel
It's 0330 hr:zzz:s. Flexistowe F.2A?

[MReyn24050]

Graeme. You are up early. Not the Flexistowe F.2A but you are not far away.

[evansb]

Curtiss H-12 ?

[MReyn24050]

Not the Curtiss H-12 Bri, but Curtiss did have connection with this aircraft. Will be off line for a couple of hours.

[SincoTC]

Good evening Mel,

My first look in for a couple of days and looks like I wasn't the only absentee!!

Just getting something to eat so I can't do much searching right now, but looking at the various comments and clues, I wonder if it's the Felixtowe F.5L ?

It was a twin, is "near" to Graeme's last shot, an English flying boat based on a Curtiss design and subsequently built in the USA and Canada at the tail end of the 1910's. No immediate hits with a cockpit photo though, it did have other names in the US, but I'm off to the kitchen now so can't follow up that line of search :)!

[MReyn24050]

You win again Trevor. It is indeed the Felixstowe 5.FL
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Felixstowe-F-Large5-1.jpg

The twin-engine F5L was one of the Felixstowe F series of flying boats extensively redesigned by John Cyril Porte at the Seaplane Experimental Station, Felixstowe, England during the First World War, from an original design by the American designer Glenn Curtiss.
The Naval Aircraft Factory further redesigned the Felixstowe F.5 for American production with numerous modifications made, including fitting 400 hp Liberty 12A engines. The American-built version was also known as the Curtiss F5L and (in civilian operation) as the Aeromarine 75.
The F5L was built by the US Naval Aircraft Factory (137) , Curtiss (60) and Canadian Aeroplanes Limited (30). Some were converted for civilian use by the Aeromarine Plane and Motor Company in 1919.

You have control.

[SincoTC]

Thanks Mel,

Dunno what's going on with Prune! I posted this a few minutes ago and it appeared on the previous page, timed at 2:14 this afternoon :confused:!! I see Kitbag's post was out of sequence too. I have deleted the original and will try again :uhoh: !

Nothing else prepared at the moment, but this one I had should be an easy one!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP015.jpg

Edited to say I've just had big issues posting on the Challenge thread. Three tries all in the wrong place!! How I got this one in at the second attempt I'm not sure but I see my original has re-appeared, timed at 2:14 pm!!
Edir2, just noticed that my edit was correctly timestamped and that the Prune clock is now correct, maybe the trouble is sorted :)

[Noyade]

Hi Trevor.

Looks (to me) like plate steel welded together at top right. We're talking serious armour plating here? And it looks like (at top left) there is 'nothing' forward of the cockpit, certainly no engine. First thought was the Hs-129 but the internet said "no". I'm thinking of the attack version of the Fw-189?

See here...

http://aircraft-cockpits.com/images/Fw189%20cockpit%20layout.jpg

[SincoTC]

Evening Graeme,

You've got it mate, it is the Focke-Wulf Fw.189C (Ground Attack) :D

Noyade has Control :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks Trevor. Sorry for the delay.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2963/img214p.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/i/img214p.jpg/)

[Noyade]

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2268/img222s.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/img222s.jpg/)

[Kitbag]

That is a Westland Widgeon helicopter and I claim my 5 Guineas.

The cockpit though looks like a Widgeon III- maybe this one (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Westland-Widgeon-III/0306438/L/&sid=364f432a02dc35720618f84ccdc07fd6)?

[Noyade]

Westland Widgeon III. Your conrtol Kitbag. :ok:

This machine, VH-UHU....it was at one point the oldest registered aircraft in Australia...

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1286/img215u.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/img215u.jpg/)

[Kitbag]

Thank you. I have nothing so OH

[evansb]

Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP111127.jpg

[twochai]

The Boeing SST (that never was)!

[evansb]

twochai is correct.:ok: The Boeing 2707 SST. Your turn.

[twochai]

http://<a href="http://s278.photobucket.com/albums/kk89/twochai/?action=view&amp;current=Wotcockpit27-11-11.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk89/twochai/Wotcockpit27-11-11.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

Sorry: My downloading skills are for nought tonight. I must declare Open House.

[MReyn24050]

Here is your challenge image twochai:-

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk89/twochai/Wotcockpit27-11-11.jpg

[sycamore]

Dromader..?

[twochai]

Not the Dromader, Sycamore.

(Thanks for the boost, Mel)!

[SincoTC]

Evening twochai,

I think that's a PZL-106 Kruk ??

[twochai]

Right on, SinoTC, it is the PZL 106A 'Kruk', predecessor to the much larger 'Dromader'.

You have control, sir.

[SincoTC]

Thanks twochai,

Here's the next cockpit.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP016.jpg

[SincoTC]

Time for a little clue I think!

A popular ultralight aircraft, sold in many countries, but it has a different name when sold in the USA. I will accept either (or better yet, both)!! :)

[frontlefthamster]

Eurostar, Sportstar?

Open house if correct, please...

[SincoTC]

Congratulations frontlefthamster, it is indeed the cockpit of a Eurostar (or Sportstar in the US) :D:D

As requested it is now an Open House

[evansb]

Identify the mystery simulator:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP111201.jpg

[MReyn24050]

I am surprised nobody has come up with the answer. Panavia Tornado I believe.

[evansb]

Correct, Mel:ok: Well done.:D It is known as the Tornado F3 Systems "emulator" at RAF Marnham. Your turn.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Bri. Here is the next one, Two for the price of one! It is the same aircraft type but with different pilot configurations.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz408.jpg

[Noyade]

American Mel?

[sabredog]

Boeing Model 1?

[MReyn24050]

It is American but not the Boeing Model 1.

[Karlark]

Martin TT?

[MReyn24050]

That is the one Karlark :ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/MartinTT2.jpg

You have control.

[Karlark]

Thanks MReyn. This one should be easy... this particular one sits nearby me;

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/77-2.jpg

[frontlefthamster]

Can it be as easy as Boeing B-54? I'm not sure that a prototype was completed though...

[frontlefthamster]

Scratch that... It's a KC-97G.

Open house please (if correct).

[Karlark]

:ok: Yes. It is the KC-97G.

Open House per frontlefthamster

[frontlefthamster]

I was gutted because I have spent time in that Tornado sim but coudn't find anything on the web to confirm my suspicions, and assumed old age and/or the Chenin Blanc was playing me up again..

So here's another along similar lines:


http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc405/frontlefthamster/Mystery.jpg

[sabredog]

J-20 Cockpit System?

[frontlefthamster]

A mock-up of the J-20, indeed.

Ahem...

In the vernacular...

Who de dawg?

Sabre de dawg!

[sabredog]

Thank you,FLH. A rather good doggeral!
The next challenge;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz42-1.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Polikarpov Po-2 I believe.

[sabredog]

As always,Mel,you believe correctly. It is indeed the Po-2.
YHC

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Terry. here is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz409.jpg

[Noyade]

British Mel?

Avro Athena?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry Graeme. This one is not British.

[sycamore]

Continental country..?possibly a Klemm?

[MReyn24050]

Continental yes but not a Klemm.

[Noyade]

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6571/img245m.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/img245m.jpg/)

[evansb]

FIAT AS.14 ?

[aviate1138]

I suggest the Breda 82 perhaps?

[MReyn24050]

Graeme. Certainly from the photograph the cockpit framing structure is asymmetrical. The other photographs of the aircraft on the net tend to confirm that is the case.

Bri & Aviate1138. This aircraft was not Italian.

[sabredog]

Possibly Polish or Czech?

[MReyn24050]

Not Polish or Czech Terry. It was designed and built to take part in the European touring plane championship mid 1930s.

[evansb]

Fieseler Fi.97 ?

[MReyn24050]

You have it Bri.:ok::D The Fieseler Fi.97

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/800px-Fieseler_Fi_97.jpg

Looking at this photograph of the aircraft it certainly does look as though the port side of the canopy had an extra vertical frame compared to the starboard side.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/fi97_2.jpg

Following the success of their two-seat tourer/trainer the Fieseler F5, Fieseler were encouraged by the German Reichsluftfahrtministerium (RLM) to develop a four-seat version specially to take part in the European touring plane championship Challenge 1934.
The result of this request was the Fi 97, designed by Kurt Arnolt.

You have control Bri.

[evansb]

Thank you Mel, for an excellent challenge, and an even better clue! Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP111206.jpg

[sabredog]

Breda Ва.64

[evansb]

Terrence you are a hound-dawg! Well done.:ok: Here is the prototype Ba.64. You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Breda_Ba64_prototype1.jpg

[sabredog]

Many thanks,Brian. I afraid it is ;
Open House

[India Four Two]

Fiesler Fi.97

Does anyone have an idea about what those "antennae" along the aileron hinge line are for?

[Kitbag]

Tracks, similar to Fowler type flaps allowing the entire trailing edge (including ailerons) to be extended increasing wing area by approx 20%. This, combined with HP leading edge slats, gave the aircraft the required STOL characteristics.

[SincoTC]

It's been OH too long and as I've got an SC to monitor, have a crack at this oldie!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP017.jpg

[Noyade]

Just stabbing with a blunt knife mate - French? Farman?

[SincoTC]

Stab away mate; the answer is a short a nd sweetno :)

[Noyade]

short

I'm Short on ideas, but if that's a clue, I'll try for the Short S.27, but where's the pusher engine?

[SincoTC]

but where's the pusher engine?

About where the photographer was standing I would think :eek:

but if that's a clue

;) Not an S.27 mate but you're on the right tack :ok:

[Noyade]

Dunno mate. To me the cockpit looks like a bathtub on the lower wing - beer image....

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8592/img255k.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/img255k.jpg/)

Not an S.27 mate but you're on the right tack


Bump it up a notch - S.32?

[SincoTC]

Sorry mate, not the S.32

This was an "improved" S27 with a 50hp Gnome

Bumpity bump :hmm: !!

[Noyade]

Is there room in your cockpit for a passenger? The S.35 with a 50 hp gnome?

:(

Much confusion exists over the identities and proper designations of these modified S.27s because each of them received multiple, uncoordinated identification numbers under various numbering systems.

[SincoTC]

I think that's near enough mate :D

I have it as the Short S.34 / S.35 of 1911

Short S.34 / S.35 (http://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Crafts/Craft28557.htm)

You can see the dark, raised pointed end of the "cockpit" in the picture at the top of the linked page, the nacelle is quite long!

Noyade has control (or is it too near bedtime??) I'm in and out of the workshop today and eveyone else seems to have gone :{

[Noyade]

Thanks Trevor, but I just bludgeoned my way through that. Open house. So there's a "gap" between the cockpit shell and the engine?

[SincoTC]

So there's a "gap" between the cockpit shell and the engine?

Yes, the raised dark pointed aft end of the nacelle in my image is in fact a petrol tank; the engine bearers seem to be part of the base of the tank and anchor the end of the crankshaft just above the trailing edge of the lower wing with the rotating cylinders aft of the propeller!

Noyade has declared Open House Sleep well mate :ok:

[evansb]

Go figure this one:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP111209.jpg

[MReyn24050]

No takers? The aircraft is the Rutan Model 202 Boomerang. A rather unique aircraft.

[evansb]

Mel is spot on:ok: The Rutan Boomerang is a one-off. All composite asymmetric 5-place, and flown from the right seat. The cabin is pressurized for your comfort. Genius designer Burt Rutan has retired. Your turn.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Bri. Here is the next aircraft have come a long way since this one:-

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz411.jpg

[Kitbag]

Oh I don't know, this one seems to have a TV button behind the control column.

Stab at the SE5?

[MReyn24050]

Not the SE5 kitbag.

[Kitbag]

Ansaldo A1?

[Noyade]

Not the SE5

Hi Mel. But it is a British fighter?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry Kitbag not the Ansaldo A1. Graeme. Yes it is British.

[Noyade]

Morning Mel.

Martinsyde F4?

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/742/62809549.jpg (http://img835.imageshack.us/i/62809549.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Graeme
:ok: It is indeed the Martinsyde F4 Buzzard. http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/MartinsydeF4Buzzard.jpg
You have control

[Noyade]

Thanks Mel, but I totally fluked than one.

Next challenge is also from WWI...

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8574/img272ql.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/img272ql.jpg/)

WWI(Slight thread drift)

Speaking of which, I bought a book on WWI yesterday and inside was this photo. That caption can't be right, can it?!...

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2479/img271n.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/img271n.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

Evenining Graeme,

Just looking in at coffee, but have to get back to work now:sad:

You're right mate and the caption isn't!!

It's a Zeppelin-Staaken, see some more pics of the same here: Zeppelin-Staaken VGO.III / R.IV / R.VII (http://flyingmachines.ru/Site2/Crafts/Craft31373.htm)

[Noyade]

Ahhh....Thanks Trevor. :ok: The Staakens I looked at had a long enclosed cabin like a railway car.

Cheers!

[evansb]

Olkhovskij Torpedo ?

[Noyade]

I'd like to give you control for coming up with that Bri. Another new one for me. Very similar looking, but mine is French. Here's a side view...

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5139/img274h.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/img274h.jpg/)

[evansb]

Morane-Saulnier AR/MS.35 ?

[Noyade]

It is Bri, well done mate. Your control. :ok:

[evansb]

Thanks mate! Fun challenge. Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP111212.jpg (...and no, that is not an EFIS display at the bottom right corner)

[Noyade]

German Spandau gun just above it?

[evansb]

Not armed by German Spandau machine gun(s).

[Noyade]

Olkhovskij Torpedo ?

I wonder... Bri, have you fired the Torpedo back at us?

[MReyn24050]

Another very interesting aircraft Bri. From the USA perhaps?

[evansb]

Yes, an interesting failure, from the U.S.A.

Here is another view of the cockpit, taken during construction:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP111212A.jpg

[Noyade]

Only the one gun Bri?

Failure performance wise or simply didn't win a contract or both?

U.S Navy or USAAF?

[MReyn24050]

The Gallaudet DB-1 I believe.

[evansb]

Yes Mel, your are correct.:ok: For the times, it was an advanced bomber design of all-metal construction. Too heavy and cursed with a structurally weak wing, only one DB-1 was produced. You have control.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Bri. Another very interesting challenge and aircraft. I will not be able to post a challenge until the morning in the UK. If anyone has one before then please go ahead and post it.
Mel

[MReyn24050]

Sorry for the delay he4re is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz412.jpg

[sycamore]

Early single-engined East European/Russian jet fighter/trainer...?

[MReyn24050]

The parenthood is Russian.

[sycamore]

MiG-9,or YaK-15....?Fitted with NS-23 gunsight..

[MReyn24050]

Neither the MiG-9 nor the Yak-15 but close.

[sycamore]

La-15 or Yak-23...?

[MReyn24050]

It is a Yak 23.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/800px-Jak-23.jpg

Are we at last going to see a challenge from you sycamore?

[sycamore]

Sorry.OPEN HOUSE....

[norwich]

Maybe this will amuse for a few seconds ?? not in Mels listing !!

Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/DSC_0313-2.jpg

[sycamore]

Must be a DC-6/7,or a Connie...?

[norwich]

sycamore, yes it is one of those ? care to narrow it down ? the photo was taken by me this year in the air !

Keith.

[Noyade]

Quick stab Keith. The caption that came with this photo described dual controls for pilot and co-pilot. The throttles look a little different to yours, but maybe the DC-6?...

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6489/img279jy.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/img279jy.jpg/)

[norwich]

Ah Noyade ! You are narrowing it down a little more ! Not a DC-6 .... I was flying in this as a paying passenger in 2011 ? that should help ??

Keith ;)

[Noyade]

Ahhh....thanks Keith. :) (Dual controls - unusual?)

Douglas DC-7 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrislokey/4852503115/)

If correct, this should go to Sycamore.

[norwich]

Noyade ! Yes that is correct, in fact the very same aircraft as your link N836D ! which I was lucky enough to fly from Opa Locka to St Maarten via Puerto Rico in earlier in the year ! as you say sycamore may deserve the credit for this !! Here is the landing at St Maarten !

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/dc7%20holiday/DSC_0159-2.jpg

[Noyade]

as you say sycamore may deserve the credit for this !!

He does Keith. My effort was rather pathetic. :( I didn't even consult Mel's list, surprised to see the DC-7 not there.

Sycamore?

[norwich]

Noyade ! You are a gentleman ! I too think sycamore has the helm for his research ! I too was surprised that the DC-7B slipped through the net ? but there must be a lot of others not in there just yet ???

Keith.

[evansb]

I think sycamore is hiding in shame...

[sycamore]

Sorry Guys,had to rush to the `Golden Arches ` for sustenance for SWMBO....OPEN HOUSE...

[evansb]

Here is the next colourful mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP111215.jpg

[SincoTC]

the next colourful mystery cockpit

A Robin ATL I believe, quite appropriate for Europeans at this time of year :)

Dunno if you have them in Canada; but we have a little red-breasted bird commonly associated with Christmas!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/christmasRobins.jpg
Seasons Greetings to all AH & N Players and Lurkers World-wide :ok::ok:

[evansb]

SincoTC is correct:ok: AKA Bijou. Your turn.

[SincoTC]

Thanks Brian,

This one should be fairly easy!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP018.jpg

[sycamore]

Possibly one of Bert Rutan/Scaled Composites aircraft...White Knight 2..?

[SincoTC]

Not possibly mate! It is indeed the Scaled Composites Model 348 White Knight Two :D

sycamore has control :ok: Do you have a Challenge for us ???

[MReyn24050]

Well done sycamore. Will we see a challenge posted from yourself? From the stats you have identified correctly 67 challenges but have yet to post one yourself. If you require any help posing a photograph please ask.

[sycamore]

Too late,,bedtime ,gotta fly ,hopefully 2morrow...OPEN HOUSE

[Noyade]

OPEN HOUSE http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8325/img283.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/i/img283.jpg/)

[sycamore]

AN-24.....?

[evansb]

Tupolev TU-16 ?

[Noyade]

Tupolev TU-16

It is Bri, your control. :ok:

[evansb]

Thanks mate! Here is the next mystery instrument panel. The aircraft it belongs to has two designators. I'll accept either.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP111218.jpg

[evansb]

Here is a big clue: (sycamore please don't respond unless you are prepared to post a challenge photo)
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP111219A.jpg

[evansb]

The mystery cockpit(s) are the Sikorsky S-38/C-6 amphibian. Sometimes called "The Explorer's Air Yacht".

OPEN HOUSE.

[JSCL]

Here's an easy one!

http://uploadir.com/u/29s8c1

[asw28-866]

TU-144 "Concordski"?

'866

[JSCL]

Indeed, easy guess but one of my favourite aircraft. It's a shame the zrussians couldn't proceed to make it decent, really.

ASW - you have control :)

[asw28-866]

Sorry all, early sign on tomorrow so no time to research a candidate. I declare Open House.

866

[Noyade]

Open House.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7948/img281k.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/i/img281k.jpg/)

[Kitbag]

Focke Wulf 187?

[Noyade]

Sorry mate, not German.

[aviate1138]

A Miles M33 Monitor perhaps?

[Noyade]

Sorry mate, not British.

This will help. Same aircraft, same cockpit but different angle...

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6295/img297w.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/img297w.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Japanese...Kawasaki Ki-66?

[evansb]

Tupolev Tu-10 ?

[Noyade]

Tupolev Tu-10I'll accept that Bri, they all look very similar and the Christmas hiatus approaches. :ok:
Your control.

It was the Tupolev Tu-2S...

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9682/img299w.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/i/img299w.jpg/)

[evansb]

Thanks mate! That is very generous of you, perhaps it is Christmas after all... :) Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP111223.jpg

[TheiC]

Early Beech Sundowner/Musketeer (different names for the same aircraft, I think) by any chance?

Open House if correct please...

[Kitbag]

Beechcraft Skipper?

[TheiC]

Looks like it, Kitbag. Doh!

[evansb]

Kitbag is correct:ok: The Beech Model 77 Skipper. Your turn.

[Kitbag]

How nice to get one at long last, though I have nothing to contribute at the moment so OH

[Noyade]

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4240/sm93d.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/sm93d.jpg/)

[Kitbag]

Looks European somehow, split screen suggests it was intended to be fast and wasn't armoured, seat frame suggests military (parachute instead of cushion), hoofing great control wheel suggests one of those fast 4-5 seat airliners.
Finger in the air; French, twin, one of the LeO's stopped by the fall of France?

Edit; just noticed a missing instrument- is this in a museum?

[Noyade]

Hi Kitbag.

French twin. Fast. Military. Not an airliner. Not LeO product. Not in a museum.

[evansb]

Sud-Est SE.100 ?