What Cockpit? MK VI

[Tu.114]

May I?

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww107/Tu114/Cockpit2.jpg

[evansb]

Ava Af-1 ?

[Tu.114]

EvansB,

the plane is neither German nor was it especially famous for its low speed capability.

[evansb]

Bereznyak-Isayev BI-1 ?
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Mystery2.jpg

I initially thought the airspeed indicator calibrations were for ultra-low speed ops, not high speed performance, and I mistook the propellant valves on the starboard side of the cockpit for "Handrader Kappenbetatigung" controls. Funny how anticipation based on assumption can influence perception.

Also, I would have sworn that we had this aircraft cockpit posted before.

[Tu.114]

EvansB,
extremely close. According to my information, the picture does not show the BI-1 though, but the BI-6 with its wing tip mounted ram jets.

????????, ????? ?? (http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/bi1.html) (bottom of page)

Anyway, let us not start to split hairs here - your controls.

Tu.114

[evansb]

Thank you. Wikipedia says a total on nine BI rocket planes (all variants) were built. A Bi-3 exceeded 800-kmh on one occasion. Here is the next "What Cockpit?":
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP090329.jpg

[sycamore]

German ,perhaps?

[evansb]

Sorry, not German.

[Tu.114]

The VSI and the stick/triggers appear of eastern provenience... MiG-3 maybe?

[evansb]

Yes Tu.114, it is the MiG-3.:ok: Well done:D You have control.

[Tu.114]

Thank You, Evansb.

And now for something completely different...

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww107/Tu114/yak-16.jpg

Tu.114

[India Four Two]

Six throttles. Possibly from your namesake's design bureau? The ANT-20bis?

[Tu.114]

India 42,

no, it is not a Tupolev.

[stevef]

Me 323 Gigante?

[Grueber]

A Dornier DO X maybe?

[Tu.114]

SteveF,

it is indeed the Me 323 heavy cargo plane. Your control.

Tu.114

[stevef]

Thanks, Tu. I'll give someone else a chance to offer a cockpit and throw this one open.
Steve.

[Tu.114]

As it is open house and to keep the thread running:

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww107/Tu114/b247.jpg

[aviate1138]

Dornier Do 19 is probably way off target..........

[Tu.114]

Actually, it is not that far off... the planes purpose and the country of origin are correct.

[Capot]

That clue would suggest the Ju 89, but I'm finding it hard to see that cockpit as one of a 4-engine LR bomber..........it's a bit sparse, even for 1936, and are there 4 throttles?

[Tu.114]

Note that I did not write that the Do 19 and the plane in question were intended for the same war. The head of state wore a moustache as well however when the challenge plane was flying.

Tu.114

[dash7fan]

It looks like the Staaken R-VI (R27/16)

[Tu.114]

Dash7fan,

that´s because it is.

Your control.

Tu.114

[aviate1138]

Must see an exterior of the Staaken R-VI.....

http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive/BR/Staaken.R.VI.1916.jpg

All lozenged up as it were.......

[dash7fan]

Thanks Tu114 , nothing on hand at the moment so Gentlemen open house

[Tu.114]

As it is open house, an easy one in the meanwhile...

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww107/Tu114/do-x.jpg

Tu.114

[MReyn24050]

As you say a nice easy one. The LZ 127 Graf Zeppelin.
Mel

[Tu.114]

MReyn,

of course. Must have been a real experience to ride in one of these giants... I sometimes wonder if it would not be feasible to rebuild one of these out of CFR instead of aluminium and fill it with helium instead of hydrogen, certainly there is one or another paying passenger to be found...

Your control, before I drift too far away...

Tu.114

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Tu.114, I agree it must have been quite an experience. Here is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz337.jpg
Mel

[MReyn24050]

An updated list can be found on the sticky "What Cockpit and What Aerodrome latest List" above.
Mel

[Tu.114]

MReyn,

thank you for the updated list. On first glance, the challenge cockpit (panel would be too strong a word) looks a little Hansa-Brandenburg, possibly the D1?

[MReyn24050]

Tu.114, this one is not a Hansa-Brandenburg I am sorry to say.
Mel

[Tu.114]

Now if there only was some instrumentation or a little more of the gun to be seen... The beam running across the cockpit would suggest a triplane - or maybe the LFG Roland C.II?

[MReyn24050]

Tu.114. Sorry that the photograph does not show more. However I can confirm that it is neither the LFG Roland C.II nor a triplane I am sorry to say.
Mel

[CoodaShooda]

Fokker Eindekker?

[evansb]

Albatros D.Va ?

[aviate1138]

Rumpler C 1?

[MReyn24050]

CoodaShooda has it :ok:. It is the Fokker Eiedekker the E.III.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Fokker_EIII_210-16.jpg

You have control.

[evansb]

CoodaShooda shooda posted by now. Meanwhile, here is the next "What Cockpit?":
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP090405.jpg

[CoodaShooda]

My sincerest apologies for slowing things down. I've been offline for the weekend and my suggestion was only a passing guess, so I wasn't paying attention..

Thanks evansb for getting things back on track.

As for the next challenge - no idea...:O

[aviate1138]

I'll have a shot at a Supermarine Swan?

[evansb]

Sorry, not from Supermarine.

[India Four Two]

But is it a flying boat?

[aviate1138]

Next stab...... well, 2 stabs....... Rohrbach Rodra or Rocco?

[evansb]

Not a flying boat, but a seaplane. Sorry, not from Rohrbach.

[evansb]

Time for a clue: It was built and designed in Germany.

[Tu.114]

Heinkel 59?

[evansb]

Sorry for the delay. Not from Heinkel.

[S'land]

Dornier Do J "Wal"?

[Avitor]

Fieseler Storch?

[evansb]

Sorry, not a Fieseler Storch. Not the Dornier J Wal, but getting closer. The mystery cockpit is a single-engine seaplane, not a flying boat.

[S'land]

Hmm, intriguing! Let's try the Dornier RSIV.

[MReyn24050]

S'land I would say that you are correct regarding the aircraft being a Dornier but I think it might possibly be a Dornier Do-D as that I believe was a single engine seaplane with an open cockpit.
Mel

[evansb]

Mel is correct. :ok: It is the Dornier Do D. Over to you.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/dornier-do-d-09.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Bri a very interesting challenge. Here is the next one, sorry there is not more of the actual cockpit intrument panel showing.
Mel
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz338.jpg

[gcardinal]

Curtiss Condor

[MReyn24050]

gcardinal Not the Curtiss Condor I am sorry to say.

[MReyn24050]

No takers apart from gcardinal? However I have found a much better photograph of the type and this will make it much easier to solve.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz338a.jpg
Mel

[one11]

Fokker F.VII ? - or Avro ten version ?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry one11 neither the Fokker F.VII nor an Avro ten version.
Mel

[MReyn24050]

Further to my reply to one11's response this aircraft was in fact a single engine aircraft.
Mel

[MReyn24050]

Still no further takers? Flying in this aircraft must have been a great way to travel through the air.

[Capot]

OK, it's wild guess time.....DH Hawk Moth, 6-seat, single engine, 1928-ish, that's all I know about it, not on the done already list.....

[MReyn24050]

Capot sorry not the DH Hawk Moth, this aircraft was a monoplane, the date was about right late 1920s..
Mel

[one11]

OK Got the hint. Some sort of Travel Air - How about a 6000 ?

[MReyn24050]

One11 you have it. :ok: It is indeed the Travel Air 6000B.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/TravelAirB6000.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/TravelAir6000b-1.jpg
You have control.
Mel

[one11]

Thanks Mel - Great challenge. I suspect this one will be more short lived but who knows....

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune100409.jpg

[oncemorealoft]

Is it the Ilyushin 86?

[one11]

It is - I guessed it would not last long - You have control

[norwich]

As it's been 24hrs since oncemorealoft wrested control, I assume he is awol, so will post a little gap filler, if thats ok with you guys ?? Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/cop42.jpg

[oncemorealoft]

Very many apologies for slowing everything down over Easter by not responding sooner.

Thanks for moving thinings on Norwich and for your e-mail evansB.

oncemorealoft

[sycamore]

The `Bridge` of a Beverley...

[norwich]

What a supurb description "bridge" and correct of course !:D

Sycamore is in command, unless you want to go back to oncemorealoft ?

Keith.

[sycamore]

Open House from me; actually the `telegraphs`( ding-ding ,full ahead/astern ) are on either side of the cockpit.and the steering `tiller` is the large knob at the back of the centre console, lift it up/out and it`s the `arm`...Syc..
The control `column `wheel` is actually like a pair of `high -rise handlebars on a chopper,and pilots looked like`hells angels` after flight with long beards as it had taken so long to get anywhere...!

[MReyn24050]

To keep the thread running here is an easy one.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz339.jpg
Mel

[aviate1138]

How about the REP monoplane flown by the doughty pioneer Robert Esnault-Peltier?

[MReyn24050]

It is indeed the REP.1 as designed and flown by Robert Esnault-Pelterie :ok::D.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/REP1.jpg

Robert Esnault-Pelterie commenced testing the REP.1 in September 1907, initially flying the aircraft as a glider before attempting powered flights.
You have control

[aviate1138]

Thanks Mel.

Poor man frightened himself so much [having had a serious 'moment' including painful personal injury] that he never trusted himself at the controls, ever again.

Onward and upward and another frontier to cross......

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/Picture4-5.jpg

Shouldn't take long.......

[Agaricus bisporus]

Bell X1A
.....................

[aviate1138]

Portobello, Sir, close but not the aircraft cockpit on view.

[Agaricus bisporus]

No Portobello, please! I'm no delicate Italian ponce, just an honest British sh!t fed field mushroom!

Heavens, how many four-tube rocket ships were there?

[S'land]

XF-91 "Thunderceptor"?

[Agaricus bisporus]

Ha! More than I thought!

Thunderceptor trumps my X1A I reckon.

But what a nice looking ship for a bastardised harrumfrodite like that!

Was this a rare case where looks didn't work good?

[aviate1138]

I should have said X1A was Very close!

Not trying to keep you in the dark Agaricus bisporus....

[sycamore]

Has to be the X-1B, 481385, different cockpit, and stick.. Open House ?

[aviate1138]

sycamore has it. Well done and to Mr Button for so nearly getting it....

X1B had a slightly different wing and 300 temperature sensors......

"The X-1B completed a total of 27 flights. A notable achievement was the installation of a system of small reaction rockets used for directional control, making the X-1B the first aircraft to fly with this sophisticated control system, later used in the X-15. The X-1B is now at the National Museum of the United States Air Force, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base at Dayton, Ohio."

Open House it is then.

[FlightlessParrot]

Well, on the basis of zero knowledge but going on the clues, I'd thought possibly so, and searched a bit. There's a photo on Wikimedia Commons that shows a rather different state of the panel--anyone want to comment?

File:Bell X-1B cockpit 2 USAF.jpg - Wikimedia Commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bell_X-1B_cockpit_2_USAF.jpg)

(I'm not sure I've got my tone clear in that--I am not at all grumbling about anything, and I did find, eventually, the pic that was set as the challenge.)

[aviate1138]

Honest guv, I was not selling a dummy, I used a NASA pic as my guide. There were two X-1Bs and one was destroyed. As the other did 27 flights maybe it gained extra stuff on the way. Certainly looks busier.... Anyway here is the NASA pic.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/Picture7.jpg

[aviate1138]

OK I will have a go........

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/Picture14-3.jpg

[evansb]

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/3ms2bison.jpg

[aviate1138]

The MYASISHCHEV 3MD

evansb you are the Man! You have control.

[evansb]

Thanks! Here is the next cockpit challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP090419.jpg

[evansb]

Clues: The aircraft was to have set a record for the category. The aircraft was not a success.

[evansb]

Another clue: The aircraft was built and designed in the United States.

[ICT_SLB]

How about the Pond Racer? "Tragically, the aircraft and veteran race pilot Rick Brickert were lost when the plane caught fire during the qualifying heats for the 1993 Reno races" would seem to be "not a success".

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Pond Racer, but like the Pond Racer, the mystery aircraft's forte was speed.

[aviate1138]

How about a Rutan Ares? Just a wild stab.......

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Rutan Ares, but the two aircraft shared the same hangar a while back.

[evansb]

More clues: The aircraft was built in 1991. Five examples were built. Three crashed. Two are on display.

[aviate1138]

Generous with the clues, is it a BD-10?

[evansb]

aviate1138 is correct. The Bede BD-10 was designed to be the world's first kit-built Mach 1.4 jet. You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/bd10_1sized.jpg

[aviate1138]

Thanks evansb and it must be OPEN HOUSE as I have to earn some pennies..........

[aviate1138]

OK as it seems a quiet time........

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/Picture18-4.jpg

Quick clue.... the wing of this aeroplane was based on the zanonia tree seed pod.

[dash7fan]

Etrich Taube replica?

[aviate1138]

Gut gemacht dash7fan, der richtig ist! Sie haben Steuerung.

I think one resides in the Deutsches Museum in Munich. Wonderful Museum.

[S'land]

There is also one in the Flugmuseum Aviaticum in Wiener Neustadt in Austria.

[dash7fan]

Thanks gentlemen! Open house.

[MReyn24050]

Here is an easy one to go on with. :)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz341.jpg

[MReyn24050]

No takers! Time for a clue, this aircraft was a WWII aircraft belonging to one of the Axis Powers.
Mel

[wz662]

Oh go on then, a FIAT C42.:rolleyes:

[MReyn24050]

wz662. Right company but wrong aircraft.
Mel

[S'land]

How about the FIAT CR 32?

[MReyn24050]

S'land you are going in the wrong direction :)

[S'land]

In that case how about the FIAT G.55 Centauro? However, I have to say that I thought the Centauro's "dashboard" was a little more complicated.

[MReyn24050]

S'land keep going in an upward direction.

[MReyn24050]

S'land. My sincere apologies my last post, I am afraid was incorrect, it must have been the late hour. I should have said "come down a notch". I should add in response to your comment that this is not the complete panel.

I have since found this photograph, which I am sure will give you the answer in no time.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz341a.jpg
Mel

[S'land]

Right then, my final offer is the FIAT G 50 Freccia.

[MReyn24050]

S'land :ok: It is indeed the Fiat G.50 in fact the G.50 bis. The G.50 bis was the development version with extended range, 421 built. This is the aircraft from which the first photograph was obtained.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/3434778313_2ef5fded02.jpg
Here is a Fiat G.50 that was operated by Finland.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/fiat-g50-freccia.jpg
You have control
Mel

[S'land]

Thanks Mel, we got there in the end.

Here is the next one. Sorry about the quality, it is the only one I could find.

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/Sundland/WCP.jpg?t=1241272066

[evansb]

Heinkel He-112 ?

[S'land]

Right as usual sir. It is indeed the Heinkel HE 112.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Heinkel_He_112.JPG

Evansb has control.

[evansb]

Thanks S'land. Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP090503.jpg

[stevef]

Dornier 335 Pfiel?

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Dornier Do.335 Pfiel.

[stevef]

In that case, I'll go for the Heinkel 219 Uhu.

[evansb]

stevef is correct:ok: The pressurized, ejection-seat, and radar equipped Heinkel He.219 Owl . You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/he219a-7_04.jpg

[stevef]

Thanks, evansb. It's getting much harder to find new pictures. I can't see this one on Mel's list though:


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r291/stevef_2007/cockpitprunery3.jpg

[stevef]

Time for a clue, I think. French.
(Already identified correctly by p.m.)

[stevef]

This one's lasting longer than expected. The aircraft had a relatively advanced form of structure for its time.

[stevef]

8000 built. Type saw military and civil service for a considerable time after the end of WW1.

[MReyn24050]

Brequet XIV perhaps?

[stevef]

No 'perhaps' about it! :ok:
Breguet 14 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breguet_14)
(Bri PM'd me with the answer a few days back, so as to leave the challenge open for a while.)
Over to Mel.
Steve.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks stevef, when I saw that someone had PM'd you with the answer I guessed that it would have been Bri. It was a great challenge and a very interesting aircraft.
Here is the next one, a nice easy one for Sunday afternoon.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz342.jpg
Mel

[MReyn24050]

No takers? I thought this one would be easy and there would be no lag in getting the answer.
Mel

[aviate1138]

Could it be a BT-13?

[MReyn24050]

aviate1138 Not the BT-13. This aircraft was not from the USA.
Mel

[Planegill]

Looks like the Lavochkin I-301 ?

[Agaricus bisporus]

I'm thinking French and wooden. Ermintrude (Emeraude I mean) or similar?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry Agaricus bisporus, Planegill has it, it is the Lavochkin I-301. (Lagg 1) :ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/lagg1-1.jpg

Planegill has control.
Mel

[Planegill]

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/planegill/TestK.jpg

[stevef]

Am I right in thinking that it's from the Boeing stable?

[evansb]

XPBB-1 Sea Ranger ?

[Planegill]

Sorry, no it is not from the Boeing stable.

[aviate1138]

How about a Short R.24/31 Knuckleduster? Great name........

[Planegill]

Hi Aviate1138 - No, not from Shorts. Stevef got the nationality right. This was a transport landplane.

[aviate1138]

Hmmmmmm..... I'll try a bright shiny Budd Conestoga? :rolleyes:

[seacue]

I still think it is a Curtis Condor, though the pictures I've seen show circular wheels, not with the segment missing.

[Planegill]

Aviate1138 has it, the Budd RB-1 (C-93) Conestoga. The all-stainless-steel ship. It was cancelled before it could prove itself.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/planegill/BuddRB1-2.jpg

[aviate1138]

All that is left, sadly.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/Picture10-2.jpg

Thanks Planegill, I declare OPEN HOUSE and no claims for expenses for my second house.....

[evansb]

Here is the next "What cockpit?":
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP090516.jpg

[evansb]

Clue: The aircraft first flew in late 1922.

[barit1]

But with THAT set of instruments :confused: :}

[evansb]

Point taken, barit1. With the exception of the engine and some instruments, the aircraft is an exact reproduction of the original. The replica aircraft in the photo was built in 1979.

[PropSyncOff]

I've been fascinated with this thread since I came across it a couple of days ago :)

The above wouldn't happen to be a Thomas-Morse R5 Racer, would it? (stab in the dark, I know...)

[evansb]

Sorry, not a Thomas-Morse R5 Racer. The mystery aircraft was built and designed in Great Britain.

[evansb]

More clues: The mystery aircraft is a fighter, and for its day, a pleasure to fly.

[S'land]

Fairey Flycatcher? I know that there was a replica made.

[evansb]

Well done S'land:D It is the replica RN FAA Fairey Flycatcher. You have control.

[S'land]

Thanks evansb, an interesting challenge.

Here is the next one.
http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/Sundland/WCPa.jpg?t=1242927998

[S'land]

No takers?

The challenge aircraft was a two seater. The original photograph was of the rear cockpit. Here is the front and the rear.
http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/Sundland/WCP-1.jpg?t=1243118953

[S'land]

Still no takers?

The aircraft in question was a trainer. A total of 139 units were built.

[S'land]

Last clue:
Depending on the model number the challenge aircraft used one of three power units; Walter NZ 120 120hp, Walter Gemma 150hp, Armstrong Siddeley Genet Major 150hp.-- @page { margin: 2cm } P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } A:link { so-language: zxx } -->

[PropSyncOff]

maybe the Czech Praga E39 trainer?

[Lightning Mate]

Almost certainly the Praga E39.

LM

[S'land]

Well done PropSyncOff, it is indeed the Praga E-39 (aka BH-39) which first flew in June 1931. It was ordered by the Czech Air Force for use as a basic trainer and was used throughout the 1930's. After the German occupation Czechoslovakia was split into two with the northern part becoming the Slovak Republic. The Slovenské vzdušné zbrane ("Slovak Air Force") were placed under Luftwaffe control. Among the aircraft given to them were ten Praga E-39s, which were used for training. The Slovak Air Force also used some of them as reconnaissance platforms supporting German ground forces in the invasion of the Soviet Union. Praga E-39s were also used as basic trainers by the Luftwaffe and the Hungarian Air Force.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Praga_E-39.jpg

Over to you.

[PropSyncOff]

Thanks! Well I don't think this one has been covered yet (hope not)!http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu340/PropSyncOff/1276037.jpg

[aviate1138]

I'll try an Antonov AN-30?

[Planegill]

Looks like the Russian Orlyonok Ekranoplan WIG vehicle.

[sycamore]

Let`s try the 410......Don`t think they have brakes on the EKP,do they ?

[Lightning Mate]

Well, it's three-engined and Russian, but apart from that I'm baffled.

The "AIRLINERS" watermark made me trawl the site, but to no avail.

[PropSyncOff]

Planegill: Well done! It is indeed the Orlyonok Ekranoplan.... nicely done!

Over to you :)http://s661.photobucket.com/albums/uu340/PropSyncOff/th_WIG.jpg

[Planegill]

Here is a new challenge.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/planegill/TestL.jpg

[evansb]

Victa Aircruiser 210 ?

[Planegill]

Hi Bri. Sorry, not the Aircruiser. However this aircraft was from a very similar timeframe.

[aviate1138]

Looks like an early version of a Seawind amphibian........

[Planegill]

Sorry Aviate1138. Good guess, but not the Seawind. Only one of these aircraft was built, and it is still flying.

[Planegill]

No more guesses? Another clue must be in order. The aircraft was built to test a then-novel construction material.

[evansb]

Wassmer WA-50 ?

[Planegill]

Not the Wassmer WA-50. This was built a little further north, and not by one manufacturer as such.

[aviate1138]

This is really getting to me. Been searching for ages........

How about the Paumier MP2 Baladin? :rolleyes:

[Planegill]

Not the MP2 Baladin, whatever that is! This aircraft was built in Germany by a consortium of existing manufacturers.

[evansb]

Bolkow LFU 205 ?

[Planegill]

Yes, well done Bri. It is the LFU 205 built by Leichtflugtechnik-Union to test the new fangled fibreglass construction. It has been flown for years by the German Flight Test Organisation at Braunchsweig. More details at DLR - Flight Operations - LFU 205 (http://www.dlr.de/fb/en/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-3870/5786_read-8387/) You have control.

[evansb]

Thanks Planegill. That was an interesting challenge. Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP090606.jpg

[evansb]

Clue time. The CRT display was a modification of the original instrument panel. The control yoke(s) are the original configuration.

[con-pilot]

One question, does it have a dual cockpit, side by side? I've seen that control yoke setup before, but for the life of me I cannot remember on what aircraft.

Obviously a very fast aircraft. The speed bugs on the airspeed indicator are very interesting, being set at 219kts, 205kts and 164kts respectively.

[evansb]

Yes, con-pilot, side-by-side pilots. You may have seen the original cockpit in a museum.:)

[BSD]

Isn't it the 737 that Boeing built as a test device? Your photo is of the (second) internal cockpit, and the aeroplane was a testbed for modern avioics systems etc., in particular the Boeing SST.

Open house if I'm right.

BSD.

[evansb]

BSD is correct.:ok: The earliest "glass cockpit", a NASA-FAA Boeing 737 TCV (Terminal Configured Vehicle) was equipped with flexible workstations of enhanced instrumentation based on the Boeing 2707 SST.

[con-pilot]

BSD is correct. The earliest "glass cockpit", a NASA-FAA Boeing 737 TCV (Terminal Configured Vehicle) was equipped with flexible workstations of enhanced instrumentation based on the Boeing 2707 SST.

Well Duh! I did see that cockpit, feel rather foolish now. But I couldn't get the external cockpit on the NASA Convair 580 out of my mind and knew that was not it.

Good find.

[evansb]

Just a reminder, before this thread passes into obscurity, that it is OPEN HOUSE.

[MReyn24050]

Here is the next one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz343.jpg

[aviate1138]

How about a Tupolev TU-2 for openers? Not holding my breath........... :rolleyes:

[aviate1138]

Clouds of doubt but maybe a YOKOSUKA P1Y1,FRANCES? if the TU-2 is a no go.............. As I get older making a decision and sticking to it gets harder but then Mel's cockpits get harder too!

[MReyn24050]

Sorry aviatte1138 this one was not Russian or Japanese. It is also harder to find cockpits that have not been presented before.
Mel

[fire-fox]

HE - 111 a to d models maybe?if so, its open to others to post pics as im at work.

[MReyn24050]

This one was not German either.
Mel

[Kitbag]

French then? Liore et Oliviere 451 or one of its stablemates perhaps

[evansb]

Amiot 354 ?

[MReyn24050]

Kitbag and evansb, sorry this one was not French.
mel

[Agaricus bisporus]

The AI and compass may well both be fixed reference/moving aeroplane type - ie Soviet.

Or Chinese...

But which type? No idea!

[MReyn24050]

Agaricus bisporus this aircraft was neither Russian nor Chinese.
Mel

[aviate1138]

At around 3:00 am I awoke and my one remaining brain cell stuttered into action.......

The result?

Cant Z-1018 "Leone" perhaps? :rolleyes:

[MReyn24050]

aviate1138
Sorry it gave you a disturbed night but it was worth it in the end, as it is indeed the cockpit of the Cant Z.1018 :ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/z1018-5.jpg
Some history on the aircraft can be found here:-
CANT Z.1018 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRDA_CANT_Z.1018)
You have control.
Mel

[aviate1138]

Thanks Mel. Finding a 'new' and suitable cockpit pic is harder than finding hens teeth!

Two hours and nothing remotely suitable or it has already been listed........


Must dash....... so.......... OPEN HOUSE....

[norwich]

I have one, it's a bit new, a bit large and a bit colourful, but very easy ? exact model please ?? Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/cockpits/cop43.jpg

[norwich]

Well 24hrs, 117 views, no takers ! So ... single engine, tail dragger, two seater, this one first registered Feb 06, very popular in UK, whole 'air force' of them out there ????

Keith.

[MReyn24050]

Van's RV8 perchance?

[norwich]

Phew ! Yes Mel, it is indeed the Van's RV8, actual aircraft below, the field is yours ! Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/northrepps%20etc/DSC_0082.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Keith, a very attractive little aeroplane. Here is the next one.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz344.jpg

[evansb]

PZL P-38 Wilk (Wolf)
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/1684622.jpg

[MReyn24050]

That is the one Bri . You have control.
Mel

[evansb]

Thanks Mel. Here is the next 'What Cockpit?': (I've replaced my original selection with this photo because it was too similar to a cockpit posted twice before).

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP090619.jpg

[evansb]

Here is a photo of the tricycle version:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP090619A.jpg

[evansb]

Clue: The design is in the history books for a first in a certain category.

[aviate1138]

Judging by the eucalyptus trees outside it could be a GA8 Airvan perhaps?

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Gippsland GA8. The design of the mystery aircraft is three decades older than the GA8.

[gcardinal]

Jim Bede designed BD-4

[evansb]

gcardinal is correct:ok: The capable and still sought after BD-4! You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/BedeBD-4C-FORD.jpg

[gcardinal]

FINALLY!!! I scored a direct hit!

Alas, I will have to call Open House. I have a good photo, but not readily available.
Post away......

[norwich]

gcardinal, its so nice to get one ! :D can I offer another very new, very large and very colourful, still in the build stage cockpit ?

Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/little%20snoring/DSC_0034.jpg

[norwich]

Almost 24hrs, 110 views, no takers yet ? Clue time, photo taken by me last week, very local to me ! it's a bi-plane homebuild type, as I stated still being constructed, It's name has a very strong connection to Mel's hometown ! I think that will give it away ?????

Keith.

[aviate1138]

Is it a Tiger Cub 440 by any chance?

Doh! Just noticed it has two seats! Hmmmmmm...... :rolleyes:

Back to the library......

[gcardinal]

SNS-9 Hiperlight?

[norwich]

aviate1138, you have answered your own question :confused:

Gcardinal, sorry not this one ;)

A certain person has pm'd me with the correct answer !!! hhmmmm

Another cluette, the wings fold back ???

Keith.

[aviate1138]

I'll try a Euro Advanced Light Aircraft Comet?

[norwich]

aviate1138, it is not one of those ! sorry ! racking my brain for clues ..... mmmm think of Robin Hood ????? although I have seen and touched this aircraft I have never seen one flying but have seen photos of flying examples with British registrations ????

Keith.

[evansb]

RL5A Sherwood Ranger ?

[norwich]

Sherwood Ranger it is ! Well done Bri, the actual one below. Looking forward to your next challenge.

Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/little%20snoring/DSC_0033.jpg

[evansb]

Thanks Keith. That was fun. I can't quite figure out where one would put one's legs and feet in the Ranger cockpit. Here is the next challenge, a cockpit designed for pilots of my size:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP090626.jpg

[evansb]

I thought this one would spark more interest.

[Cubs2jets]

RFB Fantrainer.

C2j

[evansb]

Sorry, not the RFB Fantrainer.

[evansb]

I will be away from a computer for the next few days, so I've asked Mel to step in for me, and respond to your answers.

Bri

[MReyn24050]

No further takers for Bri's challenge? I can say the aircraft first flew mid 1980s.
I have updated the list of What Cockpit's presented to date. It can be found at the What Cockpit & aerodrome "sticky".
Mel

[Agaricus bisporus]

NDN Ficracker?

[rigpiggy]

enaer t-35 pillan

[MReyn24050]

Not the NDN Firecracker nor the ENAER T-35 Pillan. This aircraft was a very similar type.
Mel

[Planegill]

PZL M26 Iskierka

[MReyn24050]

On behalf of Bri I can confirm that Planegill has it it is indeed the PZL M26 Iskierka
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/800px-Iskierka.jpg
You have control Planegill

[Planegill]

Thanks Mel.
Here is a new challenge.
(Before anyone asks, this aircraft was not made by Cessna.)

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/planegill/TestM.jpg

[Planegill]

No guesses so far?
There is a clue on the panel.

[MReyn24050]

Windecker Eagle perhaps?

[Planegill]

Yes, well done Mel. It is the Windecker AC-7 Eagle. One of the first of the plastic aeroplanes. The USAF bought some to test against radar.
Over to you.

[MReyn24050]

Planegill, Thanks, I must admit your reference to the clue being in the photograph helped. Here is the next one, a nice easy one.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz345.jpg
Mel

[evansb]

Yugoslav Government Factories Type 452-2 ?

[aviate1138]

Maybe a Saab 21R?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry chaps neither the Type 452-2 nor the Saab 21R. Welcome back Bri, I trust you had a great leave.
Mel

[evansb]

Hello Mel, is it a Yak-15 ?