What Cockpit? MK VI

[aviate1138]

Spot on! Well done Keith!

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/Picture4-1.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/Picture6.jpg

Your hand on the stick.....

[norwich]

Thanks for that aviate 1138, sorry for the delay , unplanned long day ! I have nothing ready at the mo so must declare OPEN HOSE ! Keith.

[evansb]

Great challenge aviate1138. Good eye Keith! Here is the next 'What Cockpit?':
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP080828.jpg

[Kitbag]

Possibly a/the Gloster F9/37?

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Gloster F9/37. The mystery aircraft entered serial production and saw military action.

[Dick Whittingham]

Surely those instrument floodlights come from the parts bin of some well known manufacturer!

Dick

[evansb]

Most American-made aircraft built during WW.II flew with Grimes lighting products. I don't know who supplied the mystery ship's lighting.

[aviate1138]

A wild stab..... Westland Welkin?

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Westland Welkin. The mystery ship was not made in the U.K.

[Agaricus bisporus]

So, we seem to have an American built, WWII single/tandem seat, low/mid wing, relatively low speed, twin radial machine that saw military service and had aspirations to look like Concorde inside.

Army liason/spotter perhaps role?

Mr Evans, how are we doing on the above descriptions?

Flummoxed!

[evansb]

Sorry, not American. Designed in 1936, it was considered avant at the Paris Air Show. Crew of two. Radial engines. Medium speed. Today, it would be classed as an air superiority fighter, but was considered a 'heavy fighter' when built.

[RETDPI]

Just popped by . Fokker G.1.
Haven't anything to post this time but promise to do better in future.

[evansb]

Yes. It is a Fokker G.1.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Fokker_Prototype.jpg

[norwich]

Hi all, just deleted my previous post, found it had been done before ! So here goes with another realy easy shot. Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/cockpits/cop37.jpg

[Agaricus bisporus]

Beech Staggerwing?

[norwich]

Ab, Not the stagerwing sorry. Keith.

[evansb]

Hi Keith,

Great cockpit shot! Excellent detail! I do know this one, but I'll wait a few days until a tyro gets it!


Bri

[Agaricus bisporus]

We just ain't in the same class, are we?

[norwich]

So aviation authority bri knows ? and Agaricus Bisporus's attempt are not yet mushrooming ...... hopefully others will come along with help. Keith.

[aviate1138]

I share Agaricus' feeling of being in the dark! Too many accomplished cockpiteers on this thread! :rolleyes:

[norwich]

Come on Aviate1138, I rate you as one of those people, you certainly put a lot of effort into these challenges ! Must go to bed soon but will start giving clues tomorrow evening, assuming this easy one has not been scooped by then ? Keith.

[Woods]

If this is right, open houuse-SAAB 91 Safir:hmm: Woods

[norwich]

Woods has got it :D The SAAB 91D Safir ! So I think its back to open house. Keith.

[India Four Two]

Good challenge, Keith. I was convinced with those instruments and the metal placards that it had to be US or Canadian.

Since it is Open House, here is a more modern cockpit

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WA1Sep08.jpg

[aviate1138]

Is it possibly a Grob Tutor or variant?

[India Four Two]

Aviate1138,

Nice try. Heading in the right direction in terms of type, but wrong direction geographically.

[norwich]

Going out on that very long limb again could I offer the Pacific Aerospace CT-4E or the proposed turbo prop version T350 ??? Keith.

[India Four Two]

Keith,

I hope you have a parachute or a safety harness, because I am going to have to cut off your long limb ;)

Not a CT-4E, and also not a turbo-prop.

[aviate1138]

Does Slingsby T-3 stand a chance?

[India Four Two]

Does Slingsby T-3 stand a chance? Slim to none!

Two key clues - the ball slip indicator and the horizontal lever below the centre of the panel.

[pigboat]

Don't see a clock. But with the yellow arc beginning at 100 kt it probably only needs a calendar anyway. ;)

[India Four Two]

PB,

I expect there's a calendar function in that expensive EFIS kit.

You've bought up painful memories of cross-country flights in a similar (but much more primitive) type where I was being passed by cars. :E

[dixi188]

I'm thinking Helicopter.

ASI very slow.
Important gauge at left of top of panel could be rotor rpm.
No sign of throttle in the centre.
The white thing outside might not be the nose.

No idea of the type.

[S'land]

How about a tiltrotor, the Bell XV-15?

[India Four Two]

Sorry, not a helicopter - the wings are definitely fixed (at least while in flight).

[Fitter2]

Well, how about a Cozy III?

[India Four Two]

Not a Cosy III.

[Fitter2]

But a different US homebuild?

[evansb]

AMT-200S Super Ximango motorglider.

[aviate1138]

By jove he's got it! Well done evansb! My money is on you! I guess the horizontal lever locks/unlocks the wing/aileron connections?

[India Four Two]

evansb does it again. Well done, bri.

The Super Ximango, a lovely motorglider. I would post a picture but I'm away from my laptop, on the beach at Phu Quoc, a short ATR72 ride from home :)

aviate1138, the lever is the fine/coarse/feather pitch control for the Hoffman prop.

[evansb]

Thanks Simon. Great challenge! The lack of a variometer made the motorglider an unlikely choice. Here is the next 'What Cockpit?':
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP080906.jpg

[norwich]

Would this have been built in Romania ???? Keith.

[evansb]

Sorry, Keith. Not Romanian.

[Cubs2jets]

Mooney M22 Mustang

C2j

[evansb]

Cubs2jets is correct:ok: Well done:D This single-engine pressurised Mooney M-22 Mustang is not to be confused wth the prototype twin-engine Mooney Mustang of the 1950s. You have control.

[Cubs2jets]

Guys.

Sorry for my late reply. Been out all day doing the "Cubs" part of my persona. I find that what I had ready has already been done. Forgive me...


OPEN HOUSE!

C2j

[norwich]

Just another easy one from me, will be back later. Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/cockpits/cop39.jpg

[aviate1138]

Might it be an Armstrong Whitworth AW-15 Atlanta?

Too early I now think, maybe an Ensign?

Wallowing in ground effect..........thud. :(

[norwich]

Aviate1138, neither of the above, sorry. Keith.

[Cubs2jets]

FW 200 Condor?

C2j

[norwich]

C2J you do not need the question mark, yes yes yes, I thought that would cause more problems, I didn't include you in that equation !!!! :ok:
Hope you have another ? Keith.

[Cubs2jets]

Give me a few hours and I WILL have a pic to post. It was just something about those yokes and rudder pedals. Thought it might have been another 4 engine airliner though.

C2j

[evansb]

The FW Condor did indeed enter service first as an airliner.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/fw200-01.jpg

[norwich]

I have always thought that the FW 200 was a very good looking aircraft, for it's time, it was so spooky that whilst searching for that photo I found, like London buses, they come in two's, see below. Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/cockpits/cop39a.jpg

[twochai]

Considering its vintage, that was a pretty sanitary looking cockpit except for the 'Rube Goldberg' demisting arrangement in your second shot!

I assume the first photo was of a DLH aircraft and second shot was a military version??

[Cubs2jets]

OK! Sorry for the delay. Here is the next What Cockpit.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/Cubs2jets/Whatcockpitpic.jpg?t=1220963070

I do have a second image if this one doesn't provide enough clues.

On a note, the white rectangle is where I have removed the photographers name. I WILL give due credit when the challenge is over. (Hope I haven't broken any rules, just wanted to reduce a possible clue.)

C2j

[sycamore]

Early Avenger or Corsair,or that neck of the woods?

[Cubs2jets]

Sycamore,

Neither the Avenger or Corsair but obviously, I think, of generally the same vintage.

C2j

[evansb]

Northrop XP-56 Black Bullett
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/ac24.jpg

[Cubs2jets]

LOL !! Evansb, I sure hope that you plan on donating your extensive library to a worthy entity when the time comes. :D

It is indeed the Northrop XP-56 Black Bullet - the only one of three that survives. Pictures taken by Phillip Juvet at the Western Air Museum in 1989. The aircraft has been returned to the Smithsonian NASM.

XP-56 Walkaround Index (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk085_XP-56/walk085.htm)

Over to you...

C2j

[evansb]

Thanks C2j. What an exercise in aerodynamics that bird was! Here is the next 'What Cockpit?':
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP080909.jpg

[Cubs2jets]

Looks like Gen. Curtiss LeMay in the captain's seat. Convair B-36?

C2j

[evansb]

Sorry, not the B-36. The mystery aircraft is smaller and older than the Peacemaker. Given the time-line of the photograph, I don't think it is Curtis LeMay, but he does look a bit like the man.

[evansb]

Clue time. On the flight deck, Virgil turns to Troy and says, "Its all Greek to me!".

[twochai]

"Its all Greek to me!".

Or Japanese, perhaps??

[evansb]

Sorry, not from Nihon.

[Cubs2jets]

My Greek mythology (or history?) is sorely lacking.

B-32 Dominator?

C2j

[evansb]

Sorry, not the B-32 Dominator. The mystery aircraft was not produced by one of the major manufacturers, but it did incorporate a few new design features.

[aviate1138]

A Martin PBM Mariner by the remotest chance?

[aviate1138]

Or a Budd Conestoga? Getting desperate now............

[evansb]

Sorry, not from Martin, nor Budd. 'Conestoga' has a vague connection. Although hundreds were planned, the order was reduced to ten as WW.II came to a close. Alas, only three examples of the version in the photo were completed.

[RETDPI]

Chase YG -18?

[aviate1138]

Very long shot but....Beech XA-38 Grizzly?

[evansb]

Sorry not from Beech. Geoff is on the right track with the Chase YG-18.

[aviate1138]

How about a Stroukoff YC-134?

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Stroukoff YC-134.

[RETDPI]

Its the Laister- Kauffman XCG-10A

Unofficially known , I have just realised, as the "Trojan Horse"
Nice Clue!

[evansb]

Geoff, you are correct!:ok: The Laister-Kauffmann XCG-10A 'Trojan Horse' Troop/Cargo Glider was made entirely of wood, just like the American built Conestoga wagon, and carried over 5 short tons of freight, again, just like the Conestoga wagon. The big ship was the first U.S. built aircraft to have clam-shell cargo doors, and fuselage mounted main landing gear. The 30 ft. long, 7 ft. wide cargo hold could accommodate 40 troops, or a GM 6X6 21/2 ton truck, or an army howitzer. The aircraft's wings spanned 105 feet. You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/cg10-3.jpg

[RETDPI]

For once I have a cockpit challenge!
No clues for this one as it won't last very long I'm sure.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u242/gjquick/He_162_cockpit.jpg

[Cubs2jets]

Is this one of those high production number machines from one of the major instagators of what is coloquially known as WWII?

Maybe someone new can take a try at it.

C2j

[stevef]

It looks very much like a Heinkel 162 Volksjager cockpit, but that's been up before.

[BEagle]

Redders, not a terribly difficult photo should anyone right click on 'properties'.......:hmm:

Salamander.

[RETDPI]

Well done Beags , You Have control :ok:

Every one a winner this time!

Sorry stevef, I checked on

http://www.geocities.com/artificer35...008.htm?200824
Sticky
What Cockpit and What Aerodrome latest Lists. Update 24/08/08

and couldn't find it.

As for the rest I claim a software glitch -which I am investigating.:sad:

[BEagle]

No, stevef had the correct answer first, so the honours fall to him!

He 162 developed under Project Salamander was the so-called Volksjaeger (Peoples' fighter) and was also known as the Spatz (sparrow) by the Luftwaffe.

Dangerous little sod for its pilots, I gather, some of whom were intended to be Hitler Youth with just a few hours on gliders.....

[RETDPI]

Even after 40 years you can see that Beags has not forgotten one of the cardinal rules of RAF College Cadetmanship ( Never allow yourself to get lumbered).
stevef has thus neatly been put in the frame and now has control.

[MReyn24050]

Sorry Geoff my mistake the Heinkel He 162 Salamander was posted by, of all people, myself on What Cockpit V on the 24 Feruary 2007 at Page 40 Post #793. I had recorded on the progress list but somehow it was missed off the list of posted aircraft. My apologies for any embarrassment caused.
Mel

[RETDPI]

Not as big a b*ll*ck as my leaving the name on the image! I thought that I had successfully retitled the picture on Photobucket- didn't expect it that it could carry through from my desk top!
All part of the fun and not to be taken seriously. It also showed an unusual retreat from his dotage by Beags :he will now have something to chuckle into his cocoa over- before his next relapse.

[BEagle]

Even after 40 years.....

This very week, unless I'm mistaken?

Sadly quite a few no longer with us though.

Shorn like sheep by 'Slasher' only moments after we arrived, then marching around everywhere in suits or blazers in fear and trembling of the Senior Entry. Then the delights of 'crowing' until we gained 'privilege'....

I'd hate to think what the PC and H&S folk would have to say about all that!!

Anyway, cocoa be buggered! I'm sipping champagne in the Star Alliance Gold lounge at Frankfurt as I type. Now back to the thread - looking forward to the next photo!

[stevef]

This is the only one I've got to hand at the moment - it shouldn't pose any problems.


Oops - my mistake, it's been covered before. It can run on or open house.
Steve.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r291/stevef_2007/cockpitchall.jpg

[stevef]

Eight minutes and right on the mark, Jenkins! Yes, I took the photograph last week and PaintShop Pro'd it to grey scale.
Over to you.
Steve

[evansb]

Here is the next 'What Cockpit?':
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP080913.jpg

[twochai]

Let us know when its finished!

[norwich]

If you pull, and release, the knob on the right, a small ball bearing moves among the many openings in front, depending upon which hole it stops in you will get a score ! and maybe a replay:)
Or could this be a Mk 1 instrument flying trainer ? later replaced by the Mk 2 with instruments ?
Or my way of saying ... No Idea .... at the moment ? Keith.

[MReyn24050]

The compass indicates a British Aircraft possibly a parasol monoplane?
Mel

[norwich]

How about Corben Baby Ace, being serious now, Keith ?

[evansb]

Not the Corben Baby Ace. It is a high-wing, braced monoplane. Restoration is now complete, but I am unable to find a current cockpit shot.

[windriver]

Is it a FRED ?

[evansb]

Sorry, not a FRED. I am not familiar with FRED.

[windriver]

Check The FRED out here... (I was considering building one some time ago, but reality got the better of me and I bottled out)

Fred plane homepage (http://www.geocities.com/fredplane/click.htm)

[evansb]

No, it is not an amateur-built parasol F.R.E.D. Nor is it the Allied code named Fred FW190.

[aviate1138]

How about an FW 44 Stieglitz? or FW 56 Goldfinch? [Not named after the Colditz hero Bill G!]

[evansb]

Sorry, aviate1138, none of those, not with a compass like that.

[aviate1138]

How about the Parnall Parasol? :)

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Parnall Parasol. The mystery aircraft first flew in the late 1930s. It was powered by a de Havilland Gipsy Major engine.

[S'land]

How about the Koolhoven F.K-43?

[evansb]

Not from Koolhoven. The aircraft was built in the U.K. Note that early versions were powered by Cirrus Minor and Cirrus Major engines. The later production versions were powered by the Gipsy Major.

[S'land]

Is it the Auster Autocrat?

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Auster Autocrat. Good guess though. Now, for the biggest hint of all; The aeroplane served the RAF.

[evansb]

Further clue: Only one ship of this type remains on the British Civil Aircraft Registry.

[mustpost]

Is it a Foster Wikner Wicko (Warferry)?

This one? :E
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/mustpost/G-AFJB.jpg

[evansb]

mustpost is spot on:ok: The Foster Wickner Wicko G.M.1. (RAF Warferry) You have control.

[mustpost]

Sorry, deleted my thanks
Very difficult challenge ,well done :ok:

Depending upon where you are this might be very easy or tricky - bet its gone in an instant..


http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/mustpost/Wotzit10.jpg

[mustpost]

This is taking a while, and although interesting, not as significant as others on this thread. 1st clue - Southern Hemisphere..

[S'land]

AESL Airtourer?

[mustpost]

Aha - OK, but not that old I'm afraid:)

[evansb]

Eagle 150B ?

[mustpost]

Blaarrssst - you knew it all along.
It is indeed the Malaysia Eagle 150B (one of which recently had an unfortunate accident, but no fatalities thank goodness) Oz design,unusual canard + horizontal stab, details here
Malaysia Eagle 150B (http://www.thaiflyingclub.com/linkmalaysiaeaglevisit.html)
Well done
Plse give us an oldie again...:ok:

[evansb]

Thanks mustpost! Actually, I did have to research that one a bit. Not too many Malaysian aircraft. Here is the next 'What Cockpit?':
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP080917.jpg

[aviate1138]

DH 88 Comet? - not holding my breath! :)

[evansb]

Sorry, not the DH Comet 88. The photo may be of the aft cockpit.

[evansb]

Clue: Here is the FlightSim front cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/wcp080919.jpg

[Cubs2jets]

Lockheed Sirius?

C2j

[evansb]

C2j is correct:ok: The photo is the cockpit of Lockheed Sirius Model 8, 'Tingmissartoq' (Inuit for "one who flies like a bird"). The aircraft was flown by Charles and Anne Lindburgh, on their 'North to the Orient' trip. You have control.

[Cubs2jets]

Blast it! All right, give me a bit and I'll scare something up.

C2j

[evansb]

It has been over 48 hours since the last post.

[Cubs2jets]

I apologise for the delay. You were all gentelmen to wait patiently. Here's the next What Cockpit?:

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/Cubs2jets/Number21.jpg?t=1222046927

C2j

[sycamore]

An early F101 Voodoo

[Cubs2jets]

Right country of origin, wrong plane and manufacturer.

C2j

[sycamore]

Possibly a tri-jet,XB-51?

[con-pilot]

For some reason the 'Republic F-84' jumps to mind. No real logical reason, just did.

[Cubs2jets]

Not XB-51 or F-84. Not from either manufacturer either.

C2j

[mr fish]

f 86 sabre??

[Cubs2jets]

Not an F-86. Not built by North American.

C2j

[aviate1138]

Grumman F9F Cougar possibly?

[Cubs2jets]

Not the F9F Cougar. Not from Grumman.

C2j

[mr fish]

f80 then, are we in the right era?, stick looks common to f86

[Cubs2jets]

Sorry, mr fish, not the F-80. Correct time frame though. Not manufactured by Lockheed.

C2j

[Cubs2jets]

OK, Let's recap and see if we can get a clue...

1950's American, but NOT McDonnell, Republic, North American, Lockheed or Grumman. Who is left in the narrowed field?

C2j

[NutherA2]

Chance Vought? Cutlass??

[Cubs2jets]

Vought is another name for the "Not manufactured there" list.

The aircraft WAS manufactured by Convair, but not the F-102.

C2j

[Fitter2]

Looking at the handles which puzzled me, how about the XFY-1 pogo? They would help climbing into a cockpit pointing vertically upwards.

[Cubs2jets]

Fitter2 is now in charge of the "What Cockpit" thread.

Convair XFY-1 Pogo it is. Here is a link to a (very) short video of it flying:
YouTube - Convair XFY-1 "POGO" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVT3Go1lr3c)

C2j

[Fitter2]

Thanks to all who did the hard work of elimination.

One that I am surprised has not appeared before, but is not on the list. A historic example - apologies for the quality.

http://i33.tinypic.com/2choy2f.jpg

[stevef]

Seems reminiscent of the B17.

[Fitter2]

Got it in one, Stevef.

B-17C AN528 at Boscombe, on test before joining 90 Squadron in the short service of the type with the RAF.

Over to you.

[stevef]

Thanks, Fitter2. I'm going to throw this one open.
Steve.

[evansb]

Here is the next 'What Cockpit?':
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP080923.jpg

[aviate1138]

A CAMS 31 perhaps - I take it the Japanese? lettering is a red herring?

[evansb]

Sorry, not a CAMS 31. No red herring. The mystery aircraft is from Japan.

[CoodaShooda]

Mitsubishi K3M?

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Mitsubishi K3M.

[ICT_SLB]

Martynside Buzzard - seem to remember one was given to them at the end of WW I.

[Bushfiva]

Ki. 115 Tsurugi? Pretty much a fly-once plane, designed to take any engine that happened to be laying around.

If so, it's open house, I'm afraid.

[evansb]

Yup! It is the Nakajima Ki-115 'Sword'.:ok: Well done:D Over 100 were built, but less than a few were flown. You have control. As he said, "Open House!"
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Nakajima115b.jpg

[Mr_Grubby]

Three years ago today I started the original What Cockpit thread !

Never thought it would last so long. I don't post very often these days as the subjects are way beyond me but I do enjoy following the thread.

Thanks guys. See if we can keep it going to make four years ???

Clint.

:ok:

[MReyn24050]

Hi Clint,
You beat me too it I was about to post a similar post.

Thanks for coming up with the original idea as you say the thread has come a long way since your original post.
A total of 1157 cockpit photographs have been posted to date with at least 1000 cockpits without duplication. I am sure there are plenty still not posted that will take us through another year.
Once again thanks Clint :ok::D

[India Four Two]

Thanks from me too Clint. I've had a lot of fun and increased my Total Aviation Person score :ok:

Since it is open house, here's an interesting cockpit:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WhatCockpit1Octa.jpg

For some reason, Photobucket decided to squash the picture horizontally.

I particularly like this one because of the compass. When I used to fly Chipmunks, I always felt the compass should have been a bit closer. However this is perhaps going a bit too far the other way.

[evansb]

Simon, here is an undistorted photo.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP081001A.jpg

[India Four Two]

Thanks, bri. It looks a little less cramped, but not much. ;)

[aviate1138]

DH 88 Comet a possibility? Uncertain of my position.......

[India Four Two]

Nice try but no. However, there is a DH88 connection - keep thinking along those lines.

[aviate1138]

Wouldn't be a Miles Mohawk perchance?

[MReyn24050]

India Four Two. As you say it now looks less cramped. Please check PMs.
Mel

[aviate1138]

When Mel says 'check the pms' I know it isn't a Miles Mohawk! :)

Wild stab at a Percival Mew Gull?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry about that aviate1138, but at least I put you on the right path as I am sure India Four Two will confirm.
Mel

[India Four Two]

Wild stab at a Percival Mew Gull?

Not just any Mew Gull - Alex Henshaw's Mew Gull G-AEXF. This photo is of a replica in the RAF Museum, which is configured to look like it was in 1939 when he broke the London to Cape Town return record (set by a DH 88).

Four and a half days elapsed time for a total distance of 12,700 miles - 40 hours each way with a 28 hour stop in Cape Town! No wonder he had to be lifted out when he arrived back. I cannot imagine spending even two hours in that cramped cockpit.

An excellent web page here Flight details (http://users.iafrica.com/l/le/leehall/frames/flight_details.htm) and of course Alex wrote a book The Flight of the Mew Gull which I have on order and am eagerly awaiting.

A nice picture of the present day cockpit of G-AEXF can be seen here Percival P6 Mew Gull (G-AEXF) #03 - 30th March 2008 :: (G-AEXF) #03.jpg (http://richardflagg.fotopic.net/p49508190.html), along with other photos of her restoration


aviate1138 has control :ok:

[evansb]

The Mew Gull cockpit shown has been updated. An original Mew Gull cockpit can be viewed at wonwinglo.scale-models.net. The bag hanging on the cup-hook is ballast. Yes, the aircraft was out of C of G, so bags of ballast had to be placed in the cockpit, the amount depending on the pilot's weight.

[evansb]

aviate1138! Where are you? Let us have a mystery cockpit photo pleeeze!

[aviate1138]

Here I am comrades!

Not expecting any lengthy wait for this one.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/av89.jpg

[twochai]

Amazing, but it seems the Douglas DC-3 has not been done before now!!

[aviate1138]

Not a DC3 actually........

[twochai]

Not a DC3 actually........ ....says he, smugly.:\

We knew there must be a catch.

[aviate1138]

I even left a clue....... :)

[paulc]

Lisunov LI2 perhaps - open house if correct

[aviate1138]

Well done paulc!

This particular Li-2 is the RA-01300 (23441605) 'Red 03' federation of Amateur Aviators of Russia.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/z.jpg

Open House it is.........

[twochai]

I even left a clue.......

Well done Aviate1138, I walked right into it.

My excuse is that it was 0330 here - one shouldn't challenge the sharp minds around here while sleep walking.

[evansb]

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP081003.jpg

[MReyn24050]

I believe there is a problem with the Geocities website. I have tried to update the current lists but am unable to get into Geocities. Am I to believe this is the case for all pruners? Mel

[Planegill]

Finnish aircraft Tuuli III?

[evansb]

Planegill is correct. The Tuuli III it is, You have control.

[MReyn24050]

What Cockpit list updated today, refer to sticky.
Mel

[Planegill]

Here is a new challenge.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/planegill/TestD.jpg

[aviate1138]

Maybe the Westland Whirlwind?

Doh! Not a Whirlwind as it has been 'done ' twice I see..........

Hmmmm..... The one remaining brain cell needs majooberising.... :rolleyes:

Delving.......

More in hope than........ A Westland Wyvern? Doh! That's been done too!

[sycamore]

Must be fairey obvious,that only large fish eating birds have feet that size to fit those pedals,or navy pilots !!

[Dick Whittingham]

Has to be a Gannet then.

DW

[aviate1138]

Bugger! Well done! :)

[Planegill]

Yes it is the Fairey Gannet AS.1. (I hoped the twin engines might put you off for a bit longer than that.) Over to you?

[Dick Whittingham]

Open house. Sorry, I'm only an occasional poster.

Dick

[norwich]

May I slip a very quick, and small, post in ? Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/cockpits/cop40.jpg

[sycamore]

Something with an Eastern,Russian flavour ?

[norwich]

sycamore, Eastern, but not Russian ? Keith.

[sycamore]

Aahh Ssoo,zen?

[norwich]

Sycamore, Thats Eastern as in Eastern European, although I would say very northern Europe, does that make it more confusing ???? Keith

[sycamore]

CSS 10/11 if open cockpit.

[norwich]

Are you referring to something Polish ??? If so it ain't but, geographicaly very close ! Hmmm Keith.

[sycamore]

Probably an early Zlin...

[norwich]

Not a Zlin, but czech out other aviation manufacturers from same location ??? Keith.

[evansb]

Avia AV-135.

[norwich]

evansb has it again ! I have it as the Avia B-135, production name for the B-35 ..... :D over to you Bri. Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/aviab35a.jpg

[evansb]

Thanks Keith. The B-135 was a good looking fighter. Here is the next cockpit challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP081008.jpg

[India Four Two]

OK, bri. I'll kick it off. German?

I presume the handle is for winding the rubber band? :E

[sycamore]

Oohh,you put your left leg `ein`,your left leg `aus`,ein,aus,ein ,aus,shake it allabout,you do the hokey-kokey and you turn the handle,that`s when you get off the ground ``! I think it`s an early autogyro/helo!!

[evansb]

It is German, but it has way fewer parts than an autogyro or helicopter.

[Agaricus bisporus]

Well, that's cos it's one of those pre-war gliders the Hitler pretend boy air-scout organization (proto Luftwaffe) produced. Can't guess type, but on the right lines?

[evansb]

Sorry, it is not a glider.

[NutherA2]

Fa-330 Bachstelze U-boat Kite?

[sycamore]

A one-way machine ?

[evansb]

Not a U-boat kite. Yes, it was a one-way machine.

The cockpit photo is of the 'A' version of the craft, in which the test pilot later lost his life.

[larssnowpharter]

My first thought looking at the pic was a German glider.

Pre WW2

Could it be the cockpit of the V1?

Hannah Reich and suchlike.

[evansb]

Sorry, not the piloted V1. The 'B' version of the mystery ship has more cockpit instruments. Here is a photo of a replica model 'B' instrument panel.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP081009.jpg

[con-pilot]

The Japanese version of the piloted V-1, the 'Baka'? May have the spelling wrong. I know that the language printed in the cockpit is wrong for being Japanese, but........

Good test anyway Evan.

[CoodaShooda]

Ba349 Natter?

If so, open house

[evansb]

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Natter_BA349_siebert_einstieg.jpgYes, it is the Bachem Ba.349 "Natter" (Viper), a semi-expendable, vertically launched rocket-propelled and rocket firing interceptor.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Ba349-A_unarmedTestFlight.jpg

[larssnowpharter]

Well, yer wouldn't get me in it!:eek:

[stevef]

If my memory serves me right, the pilot of the aircraft was killed minutes after this photograph was taken.
I think it was covered in the Pan/Ballantine Illustrated History of World War II series, German Secret Weapons.

[evansb]

Yes, Stevef, the photo is of the first manned flight, which took place on March 1, 1945, at Lager Heuberg military training area, near Stetten am kalten Markt. After launch, one of the boosters failed to jettison, and the cockpit canopy pulled off as the brilliant, 23 year-old test pilot, Lothar Sieber, intended to bail out. He was radioed to keep flying and try to shake off the booster, but the craft entered cloud, and he lost orientation. In addition, the large parachute mounted at the tail failed to open due to the stuck booster. The aircraft crashed, killing Sieber. It is quite possible that the "Natter" went supersonic on the way down. Lothar Sieber was the first pilot to experience a vertical rocket launch.

Earlier, I said the aircraft wasn't a glider, but a portion of its mission profile was indeed spent gliding.

[MReyn24050]

Now here is a nice easy one to get things moving again.
Mel
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz324.jpg

[stevef]

Bolton Paul Defiant?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry Stevef, not the Bolton Paul Defiant.
Mel

[aviate1138]

How about a Blackburn Roc?

Just dashing off to Farnborough so forgot to check list - ooops if already posted!

[MReyn24050]

Sorry Aviatte1138 not the Blackburn Roc.
Mel

[sycamore]

I`ll go for Wyvern at FAA museum..

[MReyn24050]

Sorry for the delay, this one is not a Wyvern
Mel

[CoodaShooda]

Gloster Gladiator?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry CoodaShooda not the Gloster Gladiator.
Mel

[aviate1138]

How about the Fairey Battle?

[sycamore]

OK,how about a Typhoon,piston-engine one...

[MReyn24050]

Sycamore has it :ok:. It is indeed the Hawker Typhoon Mk1B and a photograph of the cockpit of the Typhoon MN235 at the RAF Museum at Hendon.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Typhoon-1B2.jpg
You have control Sycamore.

[sycamore]

Open house....

[stevef]

I'll offer this easy one to keep the ball rolling.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r291/stevef_2007/whatcockpitoct.jpg

[Agaricus bisporus]

piston provost?

[stevef]

Not the Piston Provost, I'm afraid, Agaricus.

[NutherA2]

Prentice.........?
(If so - open house)

[stevef]

Percival Prentice it is! If this aircraft was a girl at a dance, it would still be alone at closing time.
.

[sycamore]

Nah,Steve,`go ugly early`,or have you never been to a `grab-a-granny` on Friday in Doncaster;they don`t ,yell,tell,smell,swell,and grateful as hell!!!!or,so I`ve been told.....

[evansb]

Here is the next 'What Cockpit?':
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP091019.jpg

[sycamore]

A Bolkow Junior thingy ?

[evansb]

Yes, it is the Bolkow Bo-208 Junior. You have control.

[sycamore]

Go ahead,Open House...

[evansb]

Here is the next historic cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP08101020.jpg

[RETDPI]

Caproni Ca. 31?
If this is correct then I think I can claim a first tonight.
(i.e Aerodrome, Silhouette and Cockpit challenges all correctly answered at the same time by one individual .)

:8:8:8:8:8:8:8:8:8:8
:ok:

[RETDPI]

Can I also note the direct drive Gnome Rhone engines to the Caproni Ca. 31???
This supports confirms the military designation of Ca.1
Three out of three????

[evansb]

It is a Caproni Ca.3, which was powered by three engines -two tractors on the wings, with a pusher at the back of the crew nacelle. You have control.

[RETDPI]

Thanks Bri,
Infinite number of Monkeys , infinite number of typewriters !
It just happened that this Monkey was on his typewriter at the time.
Surprisingly, this Cockpit is not on the list as far as I could tell.............
Should go down faster than the other two challenges ,

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u242/gjquick/Victoria.jpg

[sycamore]

Heinkel 111,or CASA variation.

[stevef]

Puts me in mind of a Dornier 17.

[aviate1138]

What about a Tupolev TU-2 comrades?

[RETDPI]

I would actually have gone for Sycamore's choice on first viewing and Aviate's Tu-2 is logical.

However it is apparently a Dornier 17

Well done stevef , :D
You have control.

[stevef]

Thanks, RETDPI.
Here's the next cockpit:

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r291/stevef_2007/whatcockpitOct21.jpg