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blueskiesup
26th Aug 2007, 09:40
I have researched this on other forums, but it's old stuff, has anyone taken the plunge and done a Cessna rating and where?,and has it got youy anywhere?.

DB6
26th Aug 2007, 10:13
Which Cessna? If it's a 152 it will be a class rating (SEPL) and no, it won't get you anywhere. A Citation would be a different matter.

blueskiesup
26th Aug 2007, 11:28
sorry, i should've been more precise, yes i do mean citation jet,CJ1 etc

JB LFPN FLYER
26th Aug 2007, 19:06
You can contact FlightSafety in Wichita (USA ) as they are doing almost all Cessna T/R there http://www.flightsafety.com/centers.php


Regards

JBB

flyingmasai
27th Aug 2007, 09:14
The market being quiet good at the moment, you are better off looking for a company first if you are ready to pay your own rating this should not be a problem.

My guess will be a C525. A lot of them in Europe. Simuflite is cheaper than flight safety.

blueskiesup
27th Aug 2007, 18:41
flyingmasai,

Chears, i think i've put out more CVs to corporate companies than anything else. It's strange how much company requirements differ, some say 1000 hours TT others say bare minimum.

theWings
29th Aug 2007, 21:46
blueskiesup,

In case you haven't considered this: might be worth getting a rating on a type which is heavy enough to unfreeze your ATPL. This means MTOW > 12,500lb.

You can log time on a lighter type (incidentally, the CJ1 is < 12,500) as MPA, but only if it is operated multi-crew. Even then, you'll still need an LST on a heavy enough a/c to actually make your application to the CAA. Now, consider that the CJ range tends to be operated privately (often single crew if N- or VP- reg), whereas the II's (a bit tired now), Bravos, Excels and XLSs tend to be G- reg, AOC, multi-crew (just my observation, comments?).

I'd suggest an Excel/XLS rating (C560XL/XLS). Very popular at the moment with a few good GA outfits.

I'll admit I don't know much about CJs (nice Proline 21 kit, though!), especially regarding how many variants a CJx rating covers. But either way, go to a quality training establishment (e.g. FSI or SimuFlite), especially if this is your first jet/EFIS type. You'll rarely waste money on good training.

Always a gamble, good luck.:ok:

The Wings

Chinchilla.612
31st Aug 2007, 14:45
theWings,

I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong here..... but isn't the CJ3 over 12,500lb, and covered by the same CE 525 type rating as the CJ, CJ1 and CJ2?

Shouldn't that make it possible to unfreeze your ATPL with CJ multi crew hours, as long as you had flown in a CJ3 at some point?

Just curious for opinions,

Chinchilla.

theWings
2nd Sep 2007, 18:25
Hi Chinchilla,

Yes you're quite right, the C525 rating covers a number of CJs including those which weight in at over 12,500lb. It's just that Blueskiesup specifically mentioned the CJ1.

However, there is more to it than just having flown a heavier CJ 'at some point'. When applying for an ATPL, you do so on the back of an LST on the a/c you are opening your license with at the time you apply. And an OPC or LPC won't do. This could most likely be done with the Differences Training which would have to be done, or by asking to upgrade your OPC/LPC if you are already on the line on the right CJ Variant.

But I guess I'm just highlighting the issues, so that Blueskiesup can make the most of his/her money and have clear(ish!) route to the ATPL.

the Wings

blueskiesup
3rd Sep 2007, 18:00
Thewings,

Thanks for your most detailed information, i guess you do have to consider the <12,500 figure to unfreeze your license. I guess if i do get to do one, it should be the C525 to ensure unfrezzing the licence.