PFA event at sherburn this weekend

[ALTSEL]

Does anybody have details of charges etc for drive-in attendance and poss camping arrangements?

[Pilotdom]

Camping is available, if you fly-in there is a landing fee of £10.00 of which £5.00 goes to the Air Ambulance. If you drive in its £5.00 and £2.00 for children. If flying in and needing fuel display an 'F' in the cockpit winow so marshallers can direct you to the pumps, if Camping please display a 'C' in the cockpit window so you can be directed for Camping Parking.

Should be a good event, you must try an Ostrich burger if you havn't already!

[A330 Dreamer]

hopefully the weather will allow this event to happen. Planning on coming down on sunday, be our 1st time at sherburn. Looking forward to it.

[G-KEST]

The website PPR page for the event was down yesterday so I sent an email No response as yet but hope to fly up on Saturday ETA 1200 in our Skybolt from Leicester.

Cheers,

Trapper 69
:ok:

[CDH]

Website up & running today
Info page here

PFA REAL AEROPLANE / SHERBURN AERO CLUB
REGIONAL RALLY SHERBURN-IN-ELMET 25-26 August 2007

1 ARRANGEMENTS FOR VISITING AIRCRAFT

1.1 Sherburn-in-Elmet will host the August Bank Holiday Regional Rally on 25 and 26 August 2007.The airfield will be open from 0830 local to 1930 local for arrivals and departures.

1.2 The airfield will be operated on an unlicensed basis for the duration of the Rally, special category RFFS cover will be in place.

1.3 There are to be no movements outside the published operating times.

1.4 Pre-registration is requested to assist with administration. A form is available at the end of these instructions and details should be e mailed, faxed or posted to the Aero Club as soon as possible (Fax No. 01977 683699). A telephone booking service will be available during the event (01977 682674) but to assist the admin team you are asked to pre-book using the form wherever possible. PPR is essential.

1.5 Weather information is available on the Sherburn Aero Club website www.sherburnaeroclub.com or by telephone from the flight centre 01977- 682674. All flights should be conducted under Visual Flight Rules.

1.6 A landing fee of £10.00 for single engine aircraft and £20.00 for twin-engine aircraft is payable on arrival. Half of all landing fees payable will be donated to the Yorkshire Air Ambulance. Reciprocal agreements to waiver landing fees will not be applicable for the event with the exception of aircraft from the Real Aero Club, Breighton the co-hosts.

1.7 Jet A1 and 100LL fuel is available. Please display a letter ‘F’ in the windscreen after landing to enable the marshallers to direct aircraft appropriately.

1.8 Camping is permitted next to the aircraft in the main parking area. Please display a letter ‘C’ to enable aircraft to be directed by the marshallers. Runway 01/19 will be closed and used for aircraft parking for the rally, it may be necessary to position your aircraft to the main parking area as space becomes available.

1.9 Please display a letter ‘D’ if special assistance is required for disabled occupants.

1.10 Noise Abatement. Sherburn Aero Club is concerned to be a good neighbour in its operations. Pilots are requested to avoid the overflying of local villages Hambleton, Monk Fryston, Sherburn-in-Elmet, South Milford and Lumby. A circuit diagram can be found at the end of these instructions


2 AIRSPACE

2.1 The Sherburn ATZ is wholly contained within the Church Fenton MATZ. It is expected that the MATZ will be closed for the duration of the Rally, however remain clear of the Church Fenton ATZ.

2.2 Burn Glider Launching Site is located 5 NM southwest of Sherburn. Gliders are launched by aero tow or by winch and cable up to 2000ft. Remain clear at all times.

2.3 Doncaster Sheffield Robin Hood Airport is situated 20NM miles SSE of Sherburn. No controlled airspace exists outside the ATZ, however for arrivals from the south, we recommend pilots contact Doncaster Approach 126.225 when abeam Gamston and for departures to the south we recommend again contacting Doncaster 126.225 when crossing the M62 south of Ferrybridge.

2.4 Leeds Bradford CTA/CTR Class D airspace boundaries are situated from 7NM west of Sherburn. For transit through this airspace contact Leeds Approach on 123.75.

2.5 It is expected that the Military Airfields north of York will be closed for the duration of the rally. Remain clear of any ATZ’s

3 ARRIVALS

3.1 Call Sherburn Radio on 122.6 for airfield information before reaching the MATZ boundary. All aircraft should enter the Zone at the northern edge of SELBY maintaining 1500 feet for an overhead join, descending dead side to the circuit height of 1000ft. Make usual radio calls overhead, descending dead side, downwind and finals. Do not expect a response except in an emergency. Keep a good lookout at all times.

3.3 Grass runways 29/11 or 24/06 will be available on the days of the Rally. Circuits are LH on runways 29 and 24 and RH on runways 11 and 06. Runway 01/19 will be closed to landing traffic as this will be used for aircraft parking but it will be available for taxying. (See airfield circuit diagram at the end of these instructions) Avoid overflying the villages of Sherburn-in-Elmet, South Milford, Lumby, Monk Fryston, Hambleton and the farm at North Sweeming.

3.4 There is to be no overtaking or orbiting within the circuit.

3.5 In the event of a go around, follow circuit procedure climbing to 1000ft and rejoin downwind, keeping a good lookout for aircraft joining the circuit from the deadside.

3.6 After Landing (See also General instructions for letters to be displayed in windscreen e.g. fuel.)

Runway 29 grass continue straight ahead to end of runway, turn right along runway 06 grass to end and right again onto runway 19 grass closed for rally and follow marshaller’s directions for parking.

Runway 24 grass continue to end of runway, turn left along 11 grass to end and left again along 01 taxiway and follow marshallers directions for parking

Runway 11 grass continue to end of runway and turn left along 01 taxiway and follow marshallers directions for parking

Runway 06 grass continue to end of runway, turn right along 19 taxiway and follow marshallers directions for parking.

Please note pilots are responsible for maintaining adequate wingtip clearances and if in doubt, shut down and manhandle aircraft into position.


3.7 Pilots of aircraft parked on grass runway 01/19 will be required to cross an active taxiway in order to reach the Clubhouse and the Exhibitors. Please follow the marshallers directions and cross promptly when instructed, keeping a good lookout.

3.8 In the event of a radio failure or if non radio, follow the above procedures keeping a good lookout and fit in with the radio equipped aircraft. Non-radio aircraft have priority over radio equipped aircraft- land when the runway is clear.

4 DEPARTURES

4.1 Book out with Control who will provide departure information. Monitor 122.60 and follow marshallers directions to runway holding point using non-active runways/taxiways. Please ensure all power checks are completed before reaching the hold.

4.3 If Mass Departure procedures are in force, details will be transmitted on 122.60. You will be lined up and waved off by hand. Crossed arms will mean stop and hold position. Continue to monitor radio frequency. Any aircraft wishing to join and land on hearing ‘Mass Departure Procedures in force’ can expect to be held off until the procedure is complete.

4.4 If Mass Departure Procedures are not in force, report ready for departure and line up, giving way to landing aircraft. Take off at your discretion.

4.5 After take off, climb to the circuit height of 1000ft, maintain and depart the MATZ via Ferrybridge Power Station.

4.6 Please refer to the circuit and airfield layout (for the Regional Rally purposes only) appended to this document

5 OTHER INFORMATION

5.1 Only pilots and passengers of participating aircraft and members of the PFA will be allowed airside, the latter on production of their PFA Membership Cards. Members of the public will not be permitted airside unescorted though Marshallers will be organised to take small parties on tours around the visiting aircraft.

5.2 Marshallers will wear high viz ORANGE smocks to enable them to be readily identified

5.3 There will be a number of prizes awarded at the Rally, judged by Sherburn volunteers and PFA stewards e.g. best aircraft, furthest travelled etc,

5.4 Visitors by road will charged an admission fee of £5.00 per adult and £2.00 per child under 15. Car parking is adjacent to the airfield on the vehicle testing ground. Entry via the approach road to the airfield Lennerton Lane off the B1222 Sherburn to Cawood Road.

[Them thar hills]

To be correct, the gliding site at Burn is 5 nm southeast of Sherburn..........which is nearer to the proposed entry point at Selby.
Could be exciting if its a bubbly day !

[CDH]

TTH
Well spotted- I cut n pasted direct off the SAC website though.
Could make it a bit interesting for those who didn't spot the mistake :ooh:

[ericferret]

A friend of mine flew in to this event at the weekend with his children. As the icecream fridge in the marquee was full of beer he was directed by the lady there to the clubhouse.

He was stopped at the door and refused entry. He explained that he wanted to buy icecreams for his children. This didn't wash with the heavies on the door. Members only!!!

He pointed out that the marquee staff had sent him over, Members only!!!!!

He returned to the tent where the lady enquired why no icecreams.
She went to the clubhouse and got them for him.

Such crap treatment after a £10 landing fee beggers believe.
The people at the club must be right up their own backsides to treat a visiting pilot so badly especially in front of his children.

Well done to the lady in the marquee.
I doubt anyone from here will bother next time.

[Rod1]

“A first class shot through the foot by SAC and the PFA.”

The regional rallies have been viewed by the PFA membership as a success. I have been to Wick, Hucknall, sywell and SHERBURN, but I take it from your post that you have not been to any? The Membership issue with SAC is an SAC issue and outside the local PFA struts control.

This is the first year the regional rally system has operated, so the struts have had a learning curve and some events have gone very well (Wick in particular), others have had growing pains. The LAA (the organization formally known as the PFA) is now reviewing the plan for next year, which will probably involve slightly fewer, slightly larger events with more head office presence, but this is under discussion.

Rod1

[G-APDK]

Rod
Aren't you jumping the gun a bit with "The LAA (the organization formally known as the PFA)"?
The PFA AGM is on Saturday and has not yet voted on this proposed name change!

[ericferret]

Further to the above, there was no apparent PFA presence at the fly in. Stand or similar.
It seems to have been just a fund raiser for the clubs involved using the PFA banner.
This makes the treatment of visitors even more inexcuseable.

[Rod1]

ericferret

The events were not organized by the PFA head office, but by the local struts. In the case of Hucknall and Sherburn the money made went to charity, so your “fund raiser for the clubs involved” is total nonsense. Most of the organizing and most of the people on the ground at most of the events were PFA members. The PFA is a member’s organization. The Members wanted a series of back to basics events, which the membership has organized on an entirely voluntary basis.

The problem with the above approach is that it has perhaps gone too far in the back to basics and we need more “presence” from head office at some events. The Membership response to the events has been good (with perhaps the exception of one event) and with the experience gained the struts will no an even better job next year.

In the days of Flying for Fun, the airfield was taken over by the PFA and this cost a lot of money. The regional events will always be run in collaboration with the airfield operators, so some things will be outside the local PFA struts control.

Rod1

[smarthawke]

Fewer, larger, PFA head office attending events?

I know, how about one BIG, let's call it a 'Rally', where everyone can go and have fun. Just as long as they don't hire too many 4x4s and give them away to the pikeys and cost the membership £30k every year.....!

Given the piece about a director at SAC (see the other Sherburn thread) being allegedly found in possession of something more than a 99 Flake perhaps one can see why there may be heavies on the door of the clubhouse.

[ALTSEL]

Drove 100 miles to attend the new style "local" PFA gathering, we had high expectations after the demise of the Kemble monster.
£10 for two to enter and park a long way from the flight-line despite having a large and heavy picnic basket.Pleas ignored.
Flight line guarded by at least 50 orange jacketed gestapo who would allow only occasional "guided tours of the aircraft park" - were is the old Sywell/Leicester/Cranfield spirit gone? can I not be trusted not to impale myself on a aeroplane? - my employer lends me a $40 million jet most days of the week. surely by my age I can be trusted to amble safely amongst light aeroplanes?
3 or 4 trade stands, nothing much to see and the flying all about 500mtrs away. We tried to visit the Sherburn Aero Club but were intercepted by yet another orange jacketed storm-trooper!
After less than an hour we left in disgust, drove south to Netherthorpe and sat in the grass near the r/w watching a Jodel do circuits in the sunshine and ate our picnic. much nicer. We won't be back - PFA ethos saw to that - a shame really.
Had it been a US EAA fly-in then things would have been very diferent, hosts, children given rides, membership tent, members BBQ, etc etc - wake up PFA before it is all to late.

[niknak]

This is a great shame.
As an ATCO I spoke to many aircraft en route to Sherburn and more than the majority took some pride in telling me that they were going to the last properly orgaised PFA ralley of the season.
I can only imagine their disappointment if what has been said is what actually happned.

From previous personal experience I know that Sherburn suffered as much as anywhere from club politics but that said, I've never encountered the tales of woe as described.

Whatever the real tale, you've got to remember that the really hard work on the ground was probably put in by a limited few working around a miriad of rules and regulations, over which they had no control.

Probably the same reason that the majority of airfields want nothing to do with sort of event.

[Rod1]

ALTSEL

All you had to do to get airside is show your PFA membership card. You are a member I assume? If not…

As I have said above, the PFA Membership wanted a back to basics event, and that is what happened. We got lots of PFA aircraft, and lots of PFA members wandering around aircraft having a good chat. The Membership appears very happy (see PFA web site (you have to be a Member to post). The Flying For Fun events were not aimed at PFA members alone and the association got fed up with subsidizing them.

Rod1

[ericferret]

Rod 1

I noticed in the event details that half of the landing fee were for the Yorkshire Air Ambulance, a very worthy cause.

Which charities received the rest of the money raised?

[niknak]

Eric,

bit of a cheap shot, anyone involved in organising this sort knows that there are always ancillary costs to pay for (insurance, staffing, electricity, maintenance etc).
Even if none of the money raised had gone to charity, I would wager that the organisers would have only marginally covered their costs, as is often the case.

[ericferret]

You missed bouncers off your list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lartsa]

please dont think all northern airfields are like sherburn
there is a welcome for all at the other nothern airfields breighton,bagby,santoft,beverley [if you have a float plane ] and countless others

sherburn seems to have lost its way lately but no doubt it will bounce back
it is one of the oldest aero clubs in the north and many changes have been made through the years some good some bad