What Airlines have the Camera you can watch outside for take off?

[MancRed]

What Airlines have the Camera you can watch outside for take off?
I know condor 767's had them anymore out there?

[LimaRomeo]

You mean watching images of take off as a passenger?

I flew a 767 of Cathay Pacific once (from Bangkok to Singapore) (as a passenger) and you could watch landing and T/O.

[JonF]

Emirates did when i flew with them to BKK from MAN

[eastern wiseguy]

Seem to remember Gulf Air had that.....

[DONTTELLTHEPAX]

MyTravel have them on the A330's :ok:

[10secondsurvey]

SAS. Scandinavian Airlines. Great fun.

[iain8867]

MyTravel have them on the 767 too, not used that much for some reason tho'

[Tolsti]

Etihad has them on the 777s and A340s that I've been on.

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

Finnair on some short haul Buses.

[joniveson]

ANA has them on most if not all of the fleet. I've flown domestically and internationally on 747s, 767s, 777s and they all have them fitted

[ZFT]

TG on 744, 777 & 345/6 but at Captains discretion. (Ch 97 I think)

[malagajohn]

Iberia on A340-600

[FairlieFlyer]

China Airlines

[knma'91]

JL has front and below

[christep]

I flew a 767 of Cathay Pacific once (from Bangkok to Singapore) (as a passenger) and you could watch landing and T/O.That would be a 777 - CX has never flown 767s.

[Bangkokeasy]

As you can see, there are a lot of airlines who fit these cameras and integrate them with their IFE. It is a shame that so few allow us SLF to view these during take off and landing. I have only ever seen this with CX, who sometimes put the camera channel up on the main screen. Otherwise, the camera views are useless during the cruise, as all you see is a blurred image of white (day) and black (er...night) and IFE is turned off during take off and landing. It's a shame.

[ThreadBaron]

GF leave the feed from the external cameras up on approach and landing. Mr PF now has the benefit of hundreds watching over his shoulder (so to speak) while he is hard a work. :\

[blaggerman]

Same for LX (A340)

[jammydonut]

Isn't it easier to name those that don't.
BA
Virgin
etc.

[Pax Vobiscum]

I've never understood the point of these cameras - as Bangkokeasy points out, they're useless in the cruise (even in daylight the resolution isn't really good enough to be able to see anything of interest) and most airlines turn them off for takeoff and landing. In the narrow bodies (eg Finnair 320) with drop down LCD screens, they're stowed away for takeoff and landing (I assume this is mandatory), so your only hope is on a flight with fixed (seatback) IFE with a carrier that's generous enough to leave it on.

As we're no longer allowed flightdeck visits (not in flight, anyway), wouldn't it be better to fix the camera in the cockpit? It could be combined with United-style channel 9 ATC comms :ok:

[Dons tin hat and retreats to bunker ...]

[TopBunk]

As we're no longer allowed flightdeck visits (not in flight, anyway), wouldn't it be better to fix the camera in the cockpit? It could be combined with United-style channel 9 ATC comms :ok:

better for who(m)?

Even the FAA/CAA/JAROPS/whatever don't require it for accident purposes. I would contend that any other reasons for providing it are therefore for 'spectator sport', and in my book a big NO.

You, as a pax, do not pay for a view of me doing my job, either from a cockpit camera, or for that matter from any external camera. Irrespective of my company policy, any such device will always remain switched off on all my flights. Deal with it!

As and when Tony Bliar/GW Bush/The Pope allow 24/7 monitoring of all their conversations (even on tape) for future analysis, then I MIGHT consider changing my viewpoint, until then, sit back and relax and let me do my job without wondering I am being videoed scratching my ar$e/reading a newspaper/venting my spleen at the CEO/Chief Pilot/snoring in my seat/whatever

[MancRed]

Topbunk...Pax Vobiscum and who ever else,,, this thread was just to ask what airlines had this facility...not the politics on if it should be on or not,who decides,blah blah blah this doesn't matter to me I was just wondering which airlines had the facility thats all:rolleyes:

please calm down and get back to the thread

thanks:D

[EBU42]

Air France did on their 777 Paris - Guadeloupe

[MancRed]

thanks guys are there any more?

[6chimes]

bmi 330's have them, but switched off for T/O, Landing in case it worries the nervous ones.