'No Smoking' at MAN

[SpannerInTheWerks]

My partner saw a friend off from MAN on Monday and was surprised to find there is No Smoking anywhere in the Terminals. Apparently little huts have been provided outside for the purpose.

I'm a non-smoker and it wasn't until I met my partner that I realised the physical and psychological effects not having a cigarette can have on a smoker's demeanour and mood over an extended period of time.

We have travelled long haul regularly over the past year and the first comment made after leaving the aircraft is 'I'm dying for a fag, let's get the bags and get out of here!'

She smokes 40 a day and the prospect of an eight or nine hour flight without the dreaded weed is not something she relishes.

With the new regulations, it now means No Smoking from the time you have cleared security to outside the terminal at the far end.

I'm sure she's not alone in thinking this is going to cause additional stress during the flight leading to short-tempers on board the aircraft. Also passengers will be spread around the airport having a 'last fag' before making their way to the departure lounge.

It will be interesting to see if the number of 'missing' passengers increases and the number of bad tempered incidents rises as a consequence.

I used to be against smoking in public places and still am if smokers and non-smokers mix. But surely the idea of banning outright a section of the public from ALL areas even when these can be segregated by building design cannot be a good thing.

MAN terminals were fine in my view. Smoking areas or rooms which had no impact on the quality of the surrounding environment and enjoyment of other passengers.

My view has changed. There has to be a place for everyone.

SITW :)

[Dutchjock]

I agree. The way I see it as long as a smoking room is separate and doesn't harm anybody else's health then great, everybody happy.

I've just seen a note at STN airport saying the staff smoking room will be closed as well, smoking only permitted at one certain spot outside. So now smoking outside is forbidden as well.. What's next? Prohibit people from smoking in their own property? One step too far I think.

By the way I quit smoking three years ago.

[Dogs_ears_up]

Aaah! A plea for mutual tolerance and common sense on the smoking issue: There's not been any shown so far, so the odds of it happening now can 't be that good! I'm afraid that the people who know what's best for other people and are only happy when telling them what to do have won this round - now we should all be concerned about where their attention will turn to next (they don't just go away after winning a battle, they move on) Alcohol? McDonalds? Fishing? Reality TV? Caffeine? Watch this space...

[cwatters]

Coming soon to a pub near you...

http://www.smokefreeengland.co.uk/

From 1st of July 2007 virtually all enclosed public places and workplaces in England will become smokefree. A smokefree England will ensure a healthier environment, so everyone can socialise, relax, travel, shop and work free from secondhand smoke.

and other countries:

http://www.smokefreeengland.co.uk/smokefreeworld/smokefreeworld-flash.html

[cwatters]

It's a lot cheaper to clean (or rather not clean) a non-smoking railway carriage than a smoking one. That's why the rail companies were so happy to give in to public pressure to ban smoking. For this reason I fully expect a lot of employers and public buildings to ban smoking totally rather than go to the expense of providing and cleaning a smoking area. Are employers able to force cleaners to clean smoking areas?

[ExSimGuy]

I noticed on the BBC News site today that some states in Kenya have outlawed "smoking in public" - this includes outdoors!

Whilst I can understand why many people don't want their air polluted by cigarette smoke, it's getting to a crazy society where you can get a heavy fine, or even 6 months in jail, for having a smoke in the middle of the street, park, even a field on a farm:hmm:.

US airports seem to be going the same way- used to be smoking areas in the TGIFridays bar, or in (LAX) a special airside-outdoor area. Now these would appear to be getting stopped too.

As was said before, more late arrivals at the gate, more pax who board the plane in an irritable mood, and all the result of the dreaded Smoking Nazis.

Let's have a bit of common sense for a change (It'd be a breath of fresh air;))

[StarAllianceGold]

The ban has been in place in Scotland for about a year, and I'm not aware of any major issues or air rage on flights from Scotland.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if nicotine patches are selling well at the airport Boots stores :)

[AltFlaps]

People,

I was a smoker for 20 years ... I gave up 3 years ago. It was hard and painful at times, but I quit.

Smoking will kill you, damage your children and hurt your pockets !!!

Just give it up !!! Surely its a no brainer ? :ugh:

[lexxity]

I work in T3 at MAN and can't wait for the ban to come into effect. Where the cutomer service desk airside is located is directly infront of the smoking area. The smoking area is not sealed off in any way, shape or form, it also fronts costa coffee so they have to put up with it too. It is an awful environment to work in.
So if you can't do with a fag for a few hours then there is a boots to buy patches from before you clear security. I want to work in a smoke free environment thanks very much.:ok:

[SpannerInTheWerks]

lexxity

If you read my post carefully you will see that I agree with you.

You seem to have missed the point.

SITW :)

[1DC]

I've mentioned this before on another thread but i have seen the smoking room in T1 orT3 full of smokers at 0700 and also a good smattering of young children inside the room with their puffing parents. The sight of a young girl holding the collar of her coat across her face because of the smoke was very disturbing. If smokers want to gather together to smoke in a special room, it is their choice but children shouldn't be allowed in..

[J-Man]

As a smoker at man, i used to be disgusted of the smell wafting from by the VLM ticket desk in t3 at manchester, now it has gone it does smell a lot better and will be a better place for the girls on the ticket desk to work.

Has the ban gone airside in t3 now as well then? or is that coming later?

[lexxity]

Has the ban gone airside in t3 now as well then?

Not as of yesterday, roll on July 1st.

[ExSimGuy]

Lexxy - Read me again! I'm not suggesting smoking in all and any part of the airport, and I can and do make 8 or 10 long-haul (6 hrs+) sectors a year without the smoking ban really upsetting me.

However, a smoker feels more relaxed when a flight is delayed for an hour or two, or when he/she checks in a bit too early and has to hang around airside while waiting, if they can "light up" somewhere.

Many airports have facilities - enclosed rooms or even a nice patio outdoors - so why can't others manage this? Or is it because a "smoking area" does not produce revenue as yet another shop or fast-food outlet would?

[Cyrano]

Many airports have facilities - enclosed rooms or even a nice patio outdoors - so why can't others manage this? Or is it because a "smoking area" does not produce revenue as yet another shop or fast-food outlet would?
Maybe you're on to something there! How about an enclosed smoking room (with good ventilation) that charged a couple of quid for entry? :cool:

[IRRenewal]

Cyrano,

An 'enclosed' smoking room while the law says that virtually all enclosed public places and workplaces in England will become smoke free? Can't really work that one out.

Went to my local tonight. I's going to be so much nicer to go there in 5 weeks time. Bring on the ban!

[STATSMAN]

Just come home from a shift in T3 & the smoking area was full between 13.00 to 20.00 (a number of late/cancelled flight today, IOM & CDG where just 2 of many!!)

STATSMAN

[SXB]

Smoking was banned in public places a few months ago in France, though bars and restaurants are exempt until the end of the year. It doesn't seem to have had a huge effect as people ignore it, I saw quite a few people smoking in various places in CDG last week, including the people who work there.

One of my local restaurants decided ban smoking of its own accord a few weeks ago, I ate there last night and the place seemed bigger, it was then I realised that I could see to the entire restaurant, before visibility was limited by the cigarette haze:)

[lexxity]

(a number of late/cancelled flight today, IOM & CDG where just 2 of many!!)


(THREAD DRIFT) Oooh now there's a shock.:hmm:

[Ranger 1]

Now that the ban is in place, how is it affecting Airside users?
We have a complete ban airside here, even in two areas which were set aside prior to the ban.
Although not a smoker myself, many who know me as a poster here, would like to get some picture what is happening Nationwide on the ban in especially Smoking airside & how it has affected you?
Cheers
Ranger 1 :ok:

[perkin]

The enclosed smoking area in MAN T1 has met its end and is now a coffee shop. AFAIK there will be no smoking airside anywhere as I'm not aware of any airports which offer any totally open spaces after security...

[candoo]

Where do all the "orange jackets" now congregate at Luton as the area by gates 1-9 appears to be smog free!

[fyrefli]

Smoking was banned in public places a few months ago in France, though bars and restaurants are exempt until the end of the year. It doesn't seem to have had a huge effect as people ignore it, I saw quite a few people smoking in various places in CDG last week, including the people who work there.

Ah, but that's the problem, the Europeans aren't as absolutist as the Brits. It's like in the Netherlands where you're not supposed to smoke at most gigs but people neither completely ignore it nor obey it - instead they seem to generally moderate their smoking; and mainly smoke joints, obviously ;) Whereas in the UK we now have people wandering around with cameras on their heads on the spot fining people 70 quid for stubbing out a cigarette butt :ugh: