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n8pilot
28th Apr 2007, 02:04
Heard from a bunch of sim instructors out in MIA, the Indigo is looking for as many pilots they can. Does any one have info for HR to send a CV. Clicked on the links on the site and got forwarded to a CAE site.

Cheers

whazitdoinnow
28th Apr 2007, 04:22
What I've heard from a few people in Miami is that you have to fork over 30.000 US for your type plus housing during the typetraining. Be aware!!!!! Alot of cash for a type. If you pay give me a call, I have some seaside property for sale in Arizona.

skytrek21
28th Apr 2007, 05:33
that's only for local Indians AIRJAE. Expats need to have at least 1000tt with the A320 type. Check your pm.

buswind
28th Apr 2007, 17:05
anyone can email me for info. I should be going to Indigo in a week or two.

DeltaSix
28th Apr 2007, 21:48
Is that all they require - A320 TR. Don't they need at least 100 hours on type as well to qualify as F/O ?

buswind
28th Apr 2007, 23:54
required time for capt. 300 pic on A320 FO ?

stevieboy
29th Apr 2007, 13:59
From what I've been told, SimCenter has a new program associated with IndiGO, on completion u'll be offered a 12 month contract and there is no minimum flight hours requirement.

Anyone else have more information???

Eight Ball
30th Apr 2007, 01:31
Yeah, but if you are an expat, you need at least 1,000 hrs total and if you're TT is below 2,000 hrs you need to do the Jet Intro Course and Glass Cockpit Technology on top of the type rating. Total = 33,000 USD not to mention license conversions, airfare to U.S. and India, then accomodation, etc.

Wow !!!!........ anyone got a spare 33,000 USD that I can borrow ?

Looks like I will just have to update my CX resume.



8Ball

*ball

skytrek21
3rd May 2007, 04:52
:ok: Simcenter has a contract with Indigo and deccan. Right now if you are an expat and have less than 250hrs tt, then you have to go through all the jet intro, glass cockpit trans. If you have 1000tt and an A320 type, then you can get through to Indigo. All the 250hr guys, fly a lot and get upto 1000tt, so you can get in directly. Have at least 100 multi, that will help too.

n8pilot
3rd May 2007, 19:38
I did my 320 type with Simcenter, was suppose to go out to Deccan, but got FWD an email from simcenter, in which Air Deccan said they weren't to happy with the quality of the FOs and canceled the deal. Heard the Indigo rumor that it is 12 mo contract and will be taking FOs with no time on type. We'll see.

whazitdoinnow
3rd May 2007, 20:17
It is going to cost you a lot of cash. Make sure you get at least something on paper from simcenter. Once again, be aware!!!!!

stevieboy
4th May 2007, 04:56
Security clearance estimate @ 45 days. However, it might take anywhere between 1 to 3 month. I've heard a few had their clearance granted at 6 month. Visa takes around 10 days to issue once you're cleared by the DGCA.

Does anyone know which recruiter SimCenter use for their IndiGO contract?

amvita
4th May 2007, 07:25
website www.goindigo.in
mail ID of the VP(ops) incharge of induction of crew [email protected]
All your queries will be answered.
cheers:)

elfransa
5th May 2007, 23:09
wow that's alot of money wasted, i mean how many went through programs offered by simcenter, and are actually now working with an airline, man 33000$ you haven't eaten yet nor paid rent, i would say the whole program would end up costing you 40000$ easy, and yet you are not garanteed anything.

Take n8pilot for instance he paid for hid tr but got nothing at the end, how long will they make you wait before they will come with an offer and when they do you would have waited 2 long that now you are not current on the aircraft, you have to get checked out again and pay more money.

PosClimb
6th May 2007, 00:39
It's extremely risky... You're dealing with Indian carriers (and type rating providers who above all want your $$$)... so you're really taking a big roll of the dice.

If you're a millionaire, losing $40,000 is nothing. Who cares.

But if you have to burrow that $40,000 that's a very different story.

It's a real crap shoot.

General rule of thumb is to never risk more than you can afford to loose.

n8pilot
6th May 2007, 18:37
AIRJAE has it spot on I think. Do post if Indigo confirms working with Simcenter.

DeltaSix
7th May 2007, 12:32
Guys,

Let's get one thing straight and you have to realize this.
It doesn't matter where you get your type rating, be it SimCenter, Pan Am, CAE, Eagle Jet or Timbuktoo poodle flight center, it all comes down to your experience, qualification, performance in the flight test and interview that will determine your marketability.

These organisations are NOT the airline's aviation school. There is no way they can guarantee your employment so get that through your head to avoid disappointment. They can ONLY RECOMMEND YOU and the rest is up to you.
If that means you have priority is subject to the airline's interpretation and preference.

From what I've read in the website, it doesn't specify that you have to be with any one particular TRTO except they had a preferred one called CAE.
However, it doesn't mean that they will exclusively hire from them only.
Otherwise they will be filled with green (inexperienced) First Officers.

Airlines tend to hire from a wide cross-section of applicants from different backgrounds to alleviate the pressure on wages as long as you have what they need.

Trying to link them to the airlines is totally useless. Ring the airline directly and ask them if you can be considered to apply if you have an A320 TR then get it from the horse's mouth. This is the safest option as the TRTOs will not decide for the the airline who gets hired eventually. They can only pass or fail you in your training.

The fact that even if Indigo says that they will hire only from SimCenter or CAE, don't be fooled into thinking that just because they have an agreement with the airline to hire graduates doesn't necessarily mean that the airline will hire every single candidate. As I've said at the outset, it all comes down to you how you perform during crunch time.

Only people on airline cadet schemes can safely say that they are the airline's priority but even that is no guarantee that a right seat job is waiting for them at the end of it. Going through these TRTO doesn't mean you are one.

Go and submit your application and see what they say. How are you suppose to know that their quota of pilots has not already been filled by pilots with 500+ hours on A320s already ? And here you are spending money on a type rating that might never be used.

If anyone has seen what I've written - at least 1,000 hrs total time and even at that you will be spending 33k.

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this to discourage anyone but to save you from a possible disappointment and worse a huge loan with no job.


Goodluck everyone

D6

elfransa
7th May 2007, 22:19
hello fellows

well ive emailed indigo to get some info, that was 4 days ago i have not heard back from them yet.

one thing for sure nothing is guaranteed in this business, if you do get a type rating it would be a risk, that's what life is all about taking risks.

PosClimb
7th May 2007, 22:31
As I said before, if you're rich, why not.

But if you have to borrow the money to do it, it's very risky.

The problem is that you're holding the bag... the airline has no leverage in you.

So if they change their mind or change their plans (that happens all the time), they can just say 'sorry, things have changed', and you're left holding the bag.

If it was a bond situation, it would be okay because the airline would have something invested in you... but this is not that kind of situation.

strikerA320
13th May 2007, 17:48
Elfransa,

If you're looking for a crew leasing company that can arrange your contract with Indigo Airlines; try FD Aviation. Send your email to Ms. Faridah Dawood at: [email protected]


Goodluck

skytrek21
14th May 2007, 16:23
anyone with at least 1000TT and an A320 type contact me or if you want to do an A320 type contact me. Make sure you have at least 1000 tt. NO I AM NOT A RECRUITER. I have a few contacts overseas and would like to help anyone who meets the above mins.

Eight Ball
15th May 2007, 03:39
Hi there Skytrek21

Have 2,015 hrs TT ( 1,200+ multi-engine). Currently holding Australian CPL/ME/IR. Will be taking up A320 TR and FAA ATP in a months time either with Pan Am or SimCenter. Just waiting for FAA Foreign license verification and TSA approval to come through and will be off.

Can you link me up with your contacts.


Thanks bud

8 Ball

P.S. check your PM

cheduve
16th May 2007, 13:11
Indigo is hiring via SimCenter and ICpilot as they perform their screening and do checks and have sent a group of instructors to meet IOE requirements.
Capt's Min 300 Hrs on type PIC
Capt in Training (Min 5,000, 2,000 multi, 1000 jet PIC)
FO Typed and min 300 Hrs on type
SO Min 1,000 Hrs or 500 multi.
I have a friend there and he is happy, hope it stays that way.I may even join them soon.
If you guys want information send an e-mail to
[email protected] she will send you all the particulars.
They would get you started on the process that is very complicated but they seem to have it nailed. The down size is that it takes 6-8 weeks to process your security clerance.
If you have the time and no type you can take a class in Miami, they are running one every month until the end of the year.
They have 2 Austarlians 6 US and 8 other nationalities starting with them next month 4 of those go as Training Captains, (Training Bond in place)
The SO makes about 2,800 USD until completing 300 Hrs then an FO makes 6,000 base pay + Overtime+ 1,000 housing (1,500 Capts). Avrg 8,700 USD
Looks like a plece to be for a quick upgrade or time buliding.
Mail me if you have any questions, and good luck!
Cheers

cheduve
16th May 2007, 14:50
Like Delta Six mentioned, make sure to get something in writing.Before you spend any monies, a type with no time on it is not very valuable.
On the other hand let me explain how things really work.
First apply and get the security clerance, that is very lengthly process 6-8 weeks, once you obtain that you are an asset for the company. If you have a promise in writing and willing to risk a little go and get your type at Simcenter or where ever, if not yo can always wait for the security clerance to come before going to class, then you would be an asset to them.
So balance the risks and agin get everything in writing.
Have Sim center give you the number of pilots working there.

My friend has just call me and his understanding that Indigo need pilots as 19 Capts. and 30 FO, how long it would last, problably until the end of the year. or early 2008.
I talked to their DO and they are planning of making this a cadet program in order to recruit talented young individuals, Foreign and nationals as he mentioned.
Again who knows when that will be in place.
I do training in Miami and that is the scoop so far.
Sim Center has the contract with Indigo, as many other crew lease companies, but the reality is that they are the only ones supplying people with fresh 320 ratings and that their advantage.

There is Indigo Capt, who was recruiting here in Miami from indigo so he gave the details, most of them were favorable, New A/C ,US managment, Steady schedule (unheard of in India) ACARS system and basically a well run airline, the downs were paid in rupees, the food and language.
Indigo has hired a company to help you get settle in, regarding apartments, mobile, schools etc, that is also very favorable as it seems managment is doing things right for a change, again hope it stay that way, ( can trust any of the bastards).
From the pictures I've seen the cabin crews are real cuties.
Anyway the only line that I have is the email given on previous mail.
Hope that works for you guys.

I'm still deciding if I want to do the expat thing again, but it sounds good from a very reliable source for me.
The first class of Sim Center should be going on June so we will know more as the info comes back to us.

One thing that I ask is that can be a guy with 250 and a 320 rating that just doesn't work, you have to have min 500 multi or 1000 TT to qualify.
Security clearance is 6-8 weeks.

Fly safe

ia1166
16th May 2007, 15:49
What is the package for expat captains (with 10.000 hrs +) and expat TRe's?

Eight Ball
16th May 2007, 21:35
Cheduve,

How do I start on my security clearance while waiting here ? Better to get it started since it takes 6-8 weeks while I wait on my FAA and TSA papers to finish.

Thanks for all your useful insights. This would at least help me coordinate my subsequent actions.

Cheers

8Ball

Albotross
20th Jul 2007, 11:36
Can you please tell me more about the contract..and general info, please.
I'm new to the contract world...I'm typed on the A320...flying A319 Capt...with 175of Airbus PIC....I truely need some help here....any info on companies..or contracts...any info on going pay, benefits, medical benefite, travel benefits...THANK YOU buddy.
Sam Dogan

Albotross
20th Jul 2007, 11:41
I have 5125 hours...A320 type, 175PIC on type.

Looking for work...
I'm in TX

Thank you

Panther06
3rd Aug 2007, 16:58
Would like to get study material for the CAE/Denver Indigo tech interview and don't have much time.

thanks for any suggestions.

hermione
4th Aug 2007, 11:52
Hi Salvocuc
Will be most grateful to get the Indigo info you offered!
Hermione