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SET 18
10th Apr 2007, 10:31
I remember an excellent thread about these sums a couple of years ago...
I wonder if anyone would like to update their 2007 positions now for overall comparison?
Who do you work for, in what position and experience, and what is your average monthly take home?
I suppose I need to start. RAF Captain of 15years' standing clearing about 3,440 a month. (that's why many are leaving!)



DME MILOS
10th Apr 2007, 12:16
Thought Captain was a RN or Army rank ;)

aerobat
10th Apr 2007, 16:46
Ryanair line Captain based at STN, £3200 + flight pay of average £1700 after tax.

Telstar
10th Apr 2007, 17:07
European LoCo F/O. Payed in Euro Net between 3500 and 4300 depending on flight hours. Zero benefits.

Coffee Black None
10th Apr 2007, 17:26
SFO EZY on a sell your soul TRSS. About 3300 net.
based on 9% in Pension scheme and 450 sectors a year.

fast cruiser
10th Apr 2007, 18:10
Year 4 F/O, B747-400 at Virgin Atlantic, take home around £3700ish per month + $800ish in downroute allowances...750hrs a year.:ok:

Atlanta-Driver
10th Apr 2007, 18:25
Air Atlanta Captain 4 years service. About 4000 GBP a month depending how much I worked. All leave unpaid and time home off salary. Some pilots made close to 6000 a month, but they worked all year around with no vacations or time off. Not very healthy.

Ham Phisted
10th Apr 2007, 18:46
Second year shorthaul F/O BA averaging about £4000 take home per month.

Stampe
10th Apr 2007, 19:20
20 year Thomsonly 75/76 skipper don,t sell days off back based on about 480 hours per year take home approx £5K per month.Don,t like making Gordon Brown rich so why work harder.:ok:

2engop
10th Apr 2007, 19:37
1 year Monarch 757 F/O, 500hrs/year, £2700.

CanAV8R
10th Apr 2007, 19:50
BA mid fleet year one. £3700 average month (including holidays) and £4000-£4500 a month if overtime done. I work hard but choose to do so. The key here is choose. Bidline in itself is the best part of the gig.

Loony_Pilot
10th Apr 2007, 20:23
Lo-Co.. no benefits.. Average of about £2800-3000 but varies between £1900 and £3900 depending on how much i fly.

Heffer
10th Apr 2007, 20:30
Second year f/o, charter B757 London based, averaging 2200 GBP net, inc. duty pay year round for 650h pA, nil pension deductions.

Good people, fun flying.

Dozza2k
10th Apr 2007, 21:24
second yr f/o for BA on 320's.(ssp). roughly take 2800 home, up to 3000 if work hard/overtime.
can work up to 900hrs p/a

Lord Lucan
11th Apr 2007, 08:15
Turbo-prop, line-training captain (Europe). 2 weeks on 2 off. About GBP3400 pm after various extras are figured in.

gashp1lot
11th Apr 2007, 08:21
Monarch F/O, MAN, FBW
Year two
750 hours a year
Take home £2500 +/- 150 after 8% pension deduction.

Artificial Horizon
11th Apr 2007, 08:23
BA Shorthaul FO 2 years £3000 - 4000 per month after tax and pension depending on how hard I choose to work, I average 3,400 per month.

Maude Charlee
11th Apr 2007, 08:47
Yr2 Flybe Dash 8 FO.
£1950 a month after tax and pension.
750-800 hrs a year in one of the busier bases.

Great fun and frankly I'd still do it for minimum wage. Company so much better than some would have you believe.

wee one
11th Apr 2007, 08:55
Capt a380 currently touring the world.

10 hrs / 20,000eur a month, final salary pension, private heath care, dentist, company car,flat 200euro per deim when away from company apartment in canary wharf, use of compny citation for holidays, access during school half term to airbus ski chalet in courcheval 1850.
But best of all first choice on the crew sandwiches on a Sharm el Sheikh.

Thinking about leaving. Anyone got the latest deal atRYR

CV Donator
11th Apr 2007, 09:12
Cessna 150 aerobat Second Officer 8000stg a month.

Whoops
11th Apr 2007, 13:14
Monarch 8 yrs total, last 2 as Capt. £3700 net per month all in. Approx 850 hours per year and 8 days off in 28.

Applications in at numerous other companies.

Sir Thomas
11th Apr 2007, 13:55
yr 2 FO on RJ , can't remember latest name of company, 1700 £ average including duty pay, supposedly have pension, 550 hrs a year.

mustang1
11th Apr 2007, 15:18
BA 757/767 year 2. 3700 month after pension on average. Previous loco on 737 and earned 1000/month less for LOT more work!

cheesycol
11th Apr 2007, 15:38
Year 1 F/O (SSP) EMB145 between £1900 and £3000 net depending on amount of overtime I choose to do/can do! Average around £2300 net inc pension contribution.

Sunray Minor
11th Apr 2007, 15:42
Damn,

32 year old university administrator. Average 45 hours a week, take home salary £1,500 per month.

Think I chose the wrong profession :sad:

spoilers yellow
11th Apr 2007, 15:44
BA 757/767 7yrs. approx £4200 after tax, incl pensions etc.
around 850 hrs per year,mostly long haul.

Glamgirl
11th Apr 2007, 15:50
Purser, BA, SFLGW, anything between 1000 and 2000 net/month, highest 2004,45 pounds, average 1550.


(Still can't find the GBP sign on my keyboard, it's disappeared!)

JT8
11th Apr 2007, 17:03
BA 777 FO, Year 1, take home £3600/month on average.

Previously easyjet SFO and took home £3000.

Wizofoz
11th Apr 2007, 17:16
2nd year EK 777 Captain after current payrise kicks in-

Equivilent of 5,400 STG (88 hrs flown)+ free 4 bed house (inc. Electicity ,gas and water) + private education for kids + all medical and dental+ yearly bonus (rumoured to be 5 weeks this year (admittedly of basic)) + 12% pension (becomes 17% later on).

Oh...and guys are leaving 'cause they don't think we get paid enough.

maxy101
11th Apr 2007, 19:43
Oh...and guys are leaving 'cause they don't think we get paid enough
Some of our line Captains are taking home between 8K and 10K Sterling a month for 750 to 850 hrs a year....(and that's paying 15% pension contributions.....I think you chaps in the sandpit are under paid.

Evel Knievel
11th Apr 2007, 21:07
Any jobs going at your outfit then maxy?????

SVK
11th Apr 2007, 23:56
Baby RHS Gear Monkey, RAF, very lucky to break 275hrs yr, clearing £2200 per month. Benefits include 4 - 6 'fat camps' per yr, sand pits and nightly firework displays.

2engop
12th Apr 2007, 01:19
I think we all get the idea how much BA get paid.

Dropp the Pilot
12th Apr 2007, 05:15
Aged EK 777 Captain: 10,100 GBP per month. This includes all the things that come to me as cash - salary, 15% to the fund, appointment pay, housing allowance, ERP, and school fees.

Diatryma
12th Apr 2007, 06:12
Insurance exec - touch over AUD 10,000 per month.

:cool:

ETOPS
12th Apr 2007, 07:23
BA 747 Capt 20 years service - just under 900 hrs per year. Average £6600 per month but pay rise to come soon. No overtime :rolleyes:

boeing boeing.. gone
12th Apr 2007, 10:45
University Building Surveyor (project manager for the estates section) currently earning (5 years PQE) 1800 a month NET for 60 hours a week min, you pilot types have quite a sweet deal!!! best of luck to you though, i just picked the wrong profession!!

Anyone out there need a 28 year old surveyor to pay vast amounts of money!!!... anyone??

nuageblanc
12th Apr 2007, 11:18
Thank you guys,

I would like to know the FO salary at:

* CITYJET
* DHL uk

:ok: thank you :ok:

ItsAjob
12th Apr 2007, 11:21
BMI, First Choice and Lingus too...

future captain
12th Apr 2007, 11:55
ppjn will give you a rough idea (if non reply here) :ok:

LLuke
12th Apr 2007, 12:11
FO KLM 747, I am on parental leave (80% contract for 12 months), salary: EUR 4800 (including EUR 450 route allowance), after tax and pension (bruto EUR 7400). Get every year in May vacation money; approx a month salary. Get in December a 13th month pay. Fly approx. 600 hrs a year.

Fat Dog
12th Apr 2007, 16:33
Some of our line Captains are taking home between 8K and 10K Sterling a month for 750 to 850 hrs a year....(and that's paying 15% pension contributions.....I think you chaps in the sandpit are under paid


Presume 10k take home after pension is a wind up - that's equivalent to about 200k per year. If not what outfit?

Frozen Ronin
12th Apr 2007, 17:00
In Alaska, single pilot IFR flying Navajo's: 4,500 usd/mo (no overtime)
Biggest month, lots of overtime: 9,000 usd/mo

Dash 8, JFK CA: 3,000 usd/mo

Go figure.

saffron
12th Apr 2007, 17:26
Tag Aviation (uk) Capt Gulfstream G550,take home £4,500 per month plus £46 per diem,2 weeks on/2 off plus leave,30 hours per month.A definite improvement on last job as SFO @<hidden> easyJet! (£3,300 p.m. & 80 hours a month)

Schnowzer
12th Apr 2007, 17:44
Fat Dog,

Its EK and its their total package. For a new Captain if you just look at basic pay it is 28,000aed/mth (3888 pounds).

To that you add 10600 for a house, up to 3333/child, 12% into prov fund 3360 and say 1,000/mth for medical. Three kids, wifey and add it all up and it comes to: 52500aed/mth or 7291 pounds but you still actually take home 3888 pounds. As a Brit probably the basic plus housing gives a better idea of comparative pay so that would be 38,600aed or 5300 pounds/month. Alternatively just look at the pay that you have after you have paid for you mortgage and see how that compares to the 3.8k.

Don't know why, but it doesn't seem to go very far though and is getting eroded by the pace of inflation. The deal was stunning 15 years ago but just seems to be drifting slowly downwards. Most people don't leave EK for the pay rate they leave for 2 reasons:

1. Had enough of Dubai - it gets old quickly, that is why EK put a 7 year service requirement on the pilots to get their cash out of the fund.
2. Constant back of the clock max hour rosters.

Schnowzer

Diesel8
12th Apr 2007, 18:56
"Dash 8, JFK CA: 3,000 usd/mo"

Stop figuring, it's Mesa!

bushbolox
12th Apr 2007, 20:09
Wizofoz,
Are those rose tinted DEC glasses your wearing by any chance. Id be happy too. If so Shame about some of your colleagues, 4 yearsin with a butt plug inserted
Hows the social life working out for you? still as long as your happy.
Fly safe

Superpilot
13th Apr 2007, 08:08
IT Contractor (Large scale upgrades/migrations/deployments)
45 hour week with 10-15 hours on the roads per week
Average £5,250 take home per month for the last 6 months. 2 to go.
Thoroughly looking forward to earning £1,500 per month during the first year of my flying career (if it ever starts) :rolleyes:.

ABX
13th Apr 2007, 08:25
Currently working as a landscape construction labourer while I await the start of my flying career, basic 160 hours per month, take home AUD$2400. Overtime on top of that.

Bring on the flying!

Cheers All.

ABX

longranger777
13th Apr 2007, 08:42
Austrian B777 after 8 years and new contract, average 3700€ net incl. allowances. 2 times the year double salary. future prospects presently bad...
Upgrading after min. 16 years

dlav
13th Apr 2007, 08:49
Any accurate figures for AerLingus? :)

maxy101
13th Apr 2007, 08:53
Presume 10k take home after pension is a wind up - that's equivalent to about 200k per year. If not what outfit?
Tied in with this link........

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=271422

Why do you think so many UK based pilots live on the continent?

blanza
13th Apr 2007, 09:17
iberia f/O 7 years short medium haul, 3300eur + 2100eur duty pay, 3 extra payment a year of 3300eur, 30 day vacation no duty pay, 10k a year for pension,

Homepage
13th Apr 2007, 09:27
B733 FO Jet2.com GBP £ 3000 net average.

500hours. Incl duty + sector pay.

CanExpat
13th Apr 2007, 10:25
Ryanair FO UK Base 2500-4200 depending on sector pay - average 3300pm for the year but 2800pm for the last 6 months - no flying. 750hrs last year. 28days annual leave 9 allocated by the company. No pension/uniform/food/car parking etc, roster 5days on 3 off - not the new pay proposal.
We get the use of free bleed air for the air-con in the cruise though.

the goon
13th Apr 2007, 13:00
Previous job:

Arable Farm Manager. Summer hours 0700-till you finish. Average summertime takehome per month £6,500. Social life: 0, life expectancey: :ouch: :ok:

EAM
13th Apr 2007, 14:18
F/O A330/A320 LTU, FRA base average about 2900€ net in 2 year, 840h. :{

Digitalis
13th Apr 2007, 14:24
Virgin Captain (aircraft is irrelevent), 2nd year of command. Gross pay £8400. Net (after £1300 pension contributions, £2200 tax and £300 NI) £4600. Add to that around £600-£700 in allowances spent downroute. Add to the gross figure around £1300 company pension contribution, plus health insurance (both acute and critical illness) and loss-of-licence insurance.

grosmig
13th Apr 2007, 20:45
Regional " AF Group " Fokker 100 Capt. 10 years. 17 days on the roads per month. Taking home 9000 eur net per month for the last 6 months. Minimum 6200 eur net for 63 hours. Double month one time the year.

jblu
13th Apr 2007, 21:02
Tyrolean DH8 Commander first year. 5600€ before taxes -> 3350€ net + 500€ allowances. Fubn flying though :)

stabout
13th Apr 2007, 21:54
North Sea Helicopter Year 2 F/O, take home £2400 basic after 7.5% to pension.
Overtime paid on top of that and offshore allowances if staying offshore for a night, flying 800hrs per year and getting 182 days holiday a year. :)
Year 1 Captain takes home about £4000 after pension deduction.

Speedbrake Lever
13th Apr 2007, 22:19
This is it

With GF over 25 years now Capt for 21 yrs my take home pay

in STG at todays rate all in 4435

Pension zero , medical crap, LOL Nil

Doesn't include housing i just manage

school fees ok but only because they are at school in Ireland so rates there are good

I like the warmth and the sun

but things waring thin now and i think for most others here

Not a place to come to if you have children

place ok but get a good credit ceiling on your Cards

or you're *****d

S.L.

Bus Junkie
13th Apr 2007, 23:22
US charter carrier, u3k, 5th year captain A320.
Average: $11800/mo I pay about 15% tax total on annual accounting.
No pension. 850 hrs/yr, about 16 days a month away from home. I'd be home
every night if I would just leave sunny Florida and move to the snowy North.
But for how long...

Antarki
14th Apr 2007, 01:57
Jetblue Airways 320 FO 2nd year - 900++hrs/yr
- Take home US$4200 ( after 15% to retirement/401k, medical, insurance)
- Unlimited supply of blue chips too.:sad:

North Shore
14th Apr 2007, 02:03
4th Year CL215 Airtanker f/o. $3200 CAD take home, plus pension, medical/dental etc.. 5 month recurring contract (April-Sept), paid year-round. 220hours last year.:ok:

EMB170
14th Apr 2007, 06:22
Capt Embraer Legacy, net €10000.- per month, 2 weeks on 2weeks of, 500hrs a year.

Capt Crash
14th Apr 2007, 08:50
3 year Training Captain in Netjets Europe. £4400 including per diems and after 6% pension. We get Bupa and some complex insurance stuff too (disability plan etc). All lincense costs, medicals and crew meals are paid for.

18 days max per month, 50 days max per quater. 15 nights in hotels per month.

Floppy Link
14th Apr 2007, 11:56
Grounded due to suspension of medical.

Loss of Licence insurance

£1000 per month.

:uhoh:

Monarch Man
14th Apr 2007, 12:16
Mine is about to improve :ok:

flying jocks
14th Apr 2007, 17:32
Current BAConnect/Flybe FO on EMB145 (Year2). Average UK£2600 after around £280 voluntary pension contributions including Flight Duty Pay with 5% paid by company to pension. Plenty of overtime available and disruption payments increasing take home pay up to £3300 on occasions.

FJ

AA717driver
14th Apr 2007, 18:24
G550 CA in U.S. $8600 Gross. $5200 net. Sorry I couldn't convert to GBP--the dollar is falling so fast, the calculator couldn't keep up. ;) TC

french_fry
14th Apr 2007, 19:11
Dash 8 Capt,

Middle East / Africa
5500$ / MO, no taxes (never at home)
Food plus lodging provided
3 MO on / 1 MO off
1200Hrs a year!

cheers

dogstar2
14th Apr 2007, 19:49
Can anyone tell me what a brand new BA DEP First Officer will get. I understand that there has just been a 17.5% pay rise.

Goat Liner
14th Apr 2007, 20:44
Qatar Airways 5 year A330 Captain:

15,300 USD

Including Housing allowance, flight pay, per diems, loss of licence and medical insurance. 85Hrs per month on average. No Tax. No Pension. 12 salaries a year. This after our latest pay increase effective April 1st.

420 HB
14th Apr 2007, 21:03
FO on small loco start up. 1300 euro after tax. no pension, no benefits, no medical and no staff travel. 6 sector days up to 60 hrs duty time per week. probably earn more driving a taxi or flipping burgers!!!!

EGCC4284
14th Apr 2007, 23:56
Ryanair FO UK Base 2500-4200 depending on sector pay - average 3300pm for the year but 2800pm for the last 6 months - no flying. 750hrs last year. 28days annual leave 9 allocated by the company. No pension/uniform/food/car parking etc, roster 5days on 3 off - not the new pay proposal.
We get the use of free bleed air for the air-con in the cruise though.

Can you explain the No car parking bit. You telling me, if lets say you are based at Liverpool and are flying out of your base, you have to pay for car parking at Liverpool.

dragon501
15th Apr 2007, 03:48
Would it surprise you?? :ugh:

ETOPS
15th Apr 2007, 08:25
dogstar2

I understand that there has just been a 17.5% pay rise.

Nope - pay negotiations underway at the moment. Will probably be around 5% after a lot of screaming and shouting (from both sides ;) )

LAHSO 06/03
15th Apr 2007, 08:25
For a Slovak Low cost operator:
Average B737 F/O take home net 2300euro incl everything (depending on hours, but does it matter?).
No Pension, no nothing. Well, free parking but no car.
Expect to end this year with 800hrs.

Yes it is tempting to come back to the UK...:\

Stand31
15th Apr 2007, 08:46
OK here goes first pprune post!

FO Aer Lingus 6ish years. 900 hrs. 5/2 5/3 5/2 5/3....
Pay comprises Basic+Sector+performance pay+Overnights.

Average net monthly pay last year

Basic 3,799
Sector 943 (av. of 4 months incl 2 weeks leave!)
Overnights 450 (average 5 per month)
Perf pay 973 (paid annually in December about 12k net)
_____________________

Total monthly = €6,165 / £4203.50/ $8334.70

This figure includes deductions for pension (7%). Final salary pension 30/45th's at age 55 with 30 years service.
Also includes deductions for union subs, gym membership and car insurance deducted at source. This is what goes into your account!. Not bad considering you could land this job with 200 hrs give or take a few increments!.

This is last year and does not include this years increment (€7k) nor national pay increases 2%. The figure does not include the increased union subs (6.4%) used to finance share purchases in the company.

Future prospects: A330 within year. Due expansion the most junior skipper for 2011 has not yet been recruited! So anyone in now will have command by at least 2011. :)

Thin Albert
15th Apr 2007, 09:17
Swiss Europen SF/O 8ish year on Avro
5000,- sfr/3000 Euro/2128Pound net after taxes:eek: shocking eh??
800,-sfr expense but needed, aroend 12 nightstops.
working 6/3/5/2 aroend 865 block/year, 32 holidays.
no extras, but you pay for your parking 50,-.
Schedulechanges around 3 per day.:p

Flights cancelled due to crewshortage average 7/day
Pilots leaving 6/month.........:D

navtrack
15th Apr 2007, 09:25
F/O B744 CORSAIR

Average duty : 60 hours/month, 10 working days

Net Salary mid scale including the 13th month : 6 500 Euros / 4 432 GBP / 8 787 USD (all benefits include)

Advantages : This figure includes deductions for pension (22%). Final salary pension 30/45th's at age 55 with 22 years service. French social security, 45 days annual leave, loss of licence insurance, ...
French Tax to be paid the next year. Depending on your family charges and expenses you had for your work. It turns around 5 to 10 % of your net incomes for an annual revenue of around 80 000 Euros. Higher if you earn more :*

:D This topic is very interresting

FlightDetent
15th Apr 2007, 10:29
F/O CSA A320 year 5

basic 76800 CZK 2740 € 3710 $
flight 45300 CZK 1620 € 2190 $ average 65 hrs/mt
extra 4000 CZK 150 € 200 $ ovrt, night, weekends, pub. holidays
pre-tax 126250 CZK 4510 € 6100 $
net 82000 CZK 2930 € 3960 $ tax approx 45% incl. social+health
per diem 5160 CZK 180 € 250$
total 87160 CZK 3120 € 4210 $

- pension +3% paid by company to your own pension fund
- union represetation strong, well organised emoticon :bow: :bow: bow: (in fact all of the above and much below only thanks to heavy negotiations yielding 15% payrise in each of last 3 years
- annual paid leave 35 days honoured by quarterly "day average"
- sick leave 3-5 days year, some transferrable
- loss if licence cover 60.000€
- airport car park € 18
- average hours 700 +/- 50 (slowly increasing)
- 7 on / 2 off, once a month 4 days off mandatory, 1 free weekend mandatory. Minimum days off 9, but 12/month on quarterly aveage. Max duty hrs 56 in 7 days. Daily duty max 12, discretion not above 14.
- roster on 20th for 1-10th, on 1st 11th to 30th. Standby duties 2-3, probability 30%. Stability excellent, changes closer than 48 hrs and for nominated off days only when agreed upon
- (bi)annual medical rostered duty time, free of charge
- sim/annual training time rostered duty time
- onboard drinks unlimited from stock, crew meal provided, choice from catering (20+ airline dishes) available 48 hrs beforehand
- company laptop PC, phone 50€ credit incl. internet access
- training bond 5 yrs

FD
LAHSO: NE figures ?

afterburner69
15th Apr 2007, 11:04
Ryanair Capt. £ 3.000 monthly plus flt.pay about 1500-2000. However everything has to be paid by oneself, carpark, licence, medical etc. And on top of that it is almost impossible to get a holiday when you wish

Zurg
15th Apr 2007, 13:41
Contract B744 FO with an Asian carrier
About £3900 net of UK tax + $450 perdiems on a busy month (which is rare)
No pension from company. All at current, poor, $/£ ER.

Projecting GAP
15th Apr 2007, 17:08
Any info regarding monthly pay/ conditions for a new F/O with BMI???

Thanks.

plumponpies
15th Apr 2007, 19:30
2nd year FO UK charter airline, 738.
£2200 per month basic, average around £2500-£2800 with duty pay.
Mustn't grumble!:)

Glonass
15th Apr 2007, 19:49
LAN Airlines
Captain B767:
3,100,000 CLP ~ 3000 GBP /month + per diem (average 300 GBP /month). 900hrs/year
…lavish. :cool:

Mr R Sole
15th Apr 2007, 21:31
BAe 146 Capt • Ad-Hoc & Charter Operator. Recently upgraded from F/O.

Net salary with no pension deductions can vary from £3300 ish when quiet to £3800 ish when busy and away from base often and could rise higher when always away in rare cases. If you have expenses such as medicals or car parking then that can bump the take home more but it is not fair to include that since that is money you have already spent and are owed!

papyjo
15th Apr 2007, 23:17
Aigle Azur(france) A320 family commander(1 year), 4th year of service.
Net, after tax and all these bullshit deductions, 4500€ 13 times paid on a 12 months basis, it comes roughly 4900€ take home every month.
Far less than many long haul F/O with less responsabilities :mad: .
Cheers.

bfisk
15th Apr 2007, 23:37
Flight Instructor - avg btn $500 and $700 net pr week. Working my ... off.

DMN
16th Apr 2007, 04:14
Air Canada Jazz Dash 8 f/o

Year 1: After all the deductions (pension,alpa...)=2700CAD, 1800Euro pm
Year 2: 3000CAD, 2000Euro
Year 3: Not much more
Year 4: Not much more
Flight pay of 600-800CAD included in the above total.
Work about 16 days on average, fly about 80h. Anywhere from 4-8 sectors per day.

Upgrade: 17 years in Vancouver, 7-8 years Montreal, Toronto.
CRJ pay is the same.

toolip
16th Apr 2007, 07:25
Estonian Air
9th year F/O 2000 euros.

CanExpat
16th Apr 2007, 08:13
Can you explain the No car parking bit. You telling me, if lets say you are based at Liverpool and are flying out of your base, you have to pay for car parking at Liverpool.

EGCC4284 – That is exactly what I am saying. You pay for staff car parking current rate approx £22 per month charged every 6 months

DHC6to8
16th Apr 2007, 08:20
edited at the request of another

Fly Ginger
16th Apr 2007, 10:59
Air Malta junior F/o

No benefits and i would earn more saying "would you like fries with that":bored:

divinehover
16th Apr 2007, 13:07
SAA F/O with 4 yrs service flying A319. Take home 2500 pounds. Fly anywhere between 50 and 100 hours a month depending on how confused the roster department is.

Barber's Pole Bob
16th Apr 2007, 14:12
GB Airways Year 3 Captain

After tax and pension contribs...

£4200 inclusive of flight pay

775 hours limit per year - new overtime deal now pretty sweet...

whazitdoinnow
16th Apr 2007, 14:17
747 classic FO for Asian cargo airline.
$7500 pm after US taxes with good health insurance and around $400 a month on per diem.
Average 8-10 days of work pm. 250 hrs per year.

ONEWORLD_86
16th Apr 2007, 20:37
Ezy F/O, 1 year.

Take home about £2700pm for 80 hours flying!

Love it, work hard but i wouldnt have it any other way!:O

Kilo-club SNA
16th Apr 2007, 20:52
Wow, this will be a contrast to previous poster

UK Charter FO

£3200 after tax and such

Due to go out of check this month since no landings last 28 days......


I'm sure it'll be payback this summer....

270/55G75
16th Apr 2007, 21:57
Netjets Europe year 2 captain

6on5off. max 50 days/quarter
22 working days vacation

6100 E nett per month basic (after tax and social contributions)
1120 E per diems monthly (16days)
550 E contribution to savings plan

7770 Euro nett all in.

SEAMASTER
16th Apr 2007, 22:14
£ 3250 £ 2955 £ 2695 £ 3550 £ 3365 £ 2650 Last six months Yr 2 F/O BA Connet E-145, thats how much it varies depending how much you worked. Inconsistant you might say, sums the former airline up. Wonder what flybe want to give us, dont want to stay and find out ! time to go me thinks !!

two speed prop 3
17th Apr 2007, 08:32
Britannia/Thomsonfly Fleet: B757/B767 2-3 year FO

Average monthly take home= £4166 includes overtime payments. Flew exactly 700 hours over the last year.

TSP3

vanraider
17th Apr 2007, 13:36
Caravan pilot in East Africa.
nett 3700 usd, 4200 once the PC12 is delivered.
incentive scheme: 50 usd for every hour flown above 70 hours flightime in a month (on a busy month, this means 2000 usd extra)
medical and loss of licence insurance paid
club membership subsidized
45 day leave a year
aircrafts less than 4 years old, about to receive 2 caravans from the factory.

oceancrosser
17th Apr 2007, 18:24
Capt 757/767 small EUR "flag carrier"

20 yrs +
Net € 8300 pr. month
Per diems avg around 1125 p.m.

Usually around 600 hrs yr

Serenity
17th Apr 2007, 18:53
Cheers guys, you have given me hope;

Eastern Airways, yr 1 F/o, last month was £1,600. :{

A-3TWENTY
17th Apr 2007, 19:10
Click air , Captain A-320
About 900 hours / year...

75000 € Gross... with perdiem and hours aprox.7700€ NET a month.

No benefits at all.

bluefalcon
17th Apr 2007, 20:32
Spanish typical charter F/o 4500eur nett, Capt 8000-9000 nett.

Donkey Duke
18th Apr 2007, 00:00
ATL based 757/767 FO for large US Carrier based in ATL. 10th year FO bringing home about $7000 USD per month after taxes, flying about 80-85 hours per month. 14-15 days off per month, with nice long layovers in beautiful California and sunny Florida. Can hold 764 FO bid if wanted to, but waiting for better schedule and probably will start 763 international flying soon out of ATL (forget LAX layovers, looking forward to Rio and Joberg!). Can hold MD88 Captain now in NYC and ATL, but do not want to fly it. Cheers mates!

desertbaker
18th Apr 2007, 19:32
"Magic Kingdom" driver, ATPL, ex military 6000hrs
average of £9000 tax free per month - includes bonuses
plus:
Free 3 bed house (surrrounded by barbed wire and 3 layers of "protection")
3 flights back "home" for self and family per year
Final salary pension scheme payable at 50 or 55 (depending on what you are driving)
Medical insurance
Education for kids
Sun Burn!
Petrol at 8p a litre:)
Deductions are Pension (£600 pm) and share schemes
Company can't recruit - I wonder why?
After 5 years of banging head against brick walls, :ugh: I'm applying to Flybe - money helps with life, but it ain't everything.

Stuck_in_an_ATR
18th Apr 2007, 21:11
EuroLot, Poland. Year 1 CA (it actually doesnt matter - yr 10 capts get the same:yuk: ), ATR-42/72. Nett ~2000 EUR/mth + ~$150 allowances. Anyway, I am bound to change it for better:}

Metro man
19th Apr 2007, 03:18
A320 f/o Asian low cost S$11000 GBP3700 US$7300. 1000hrs/yr no other benefits. +50% for a Captain

superced
19th Apr 2007, 04:20
Thats tiger airways

bleeds off
19th Apr 2007, 13:46
Any data about bmi baby F/O's ?
Thanks:p

No longer ATC
19th Apr 2007, 13:51
'Im indoors, BA 744 skipper since 2001, £6500pm take home

ATP_Al
19th Apr 2007, 16:46
Yr2 Dash 8 FO Air Southwest

£1500pm net inc pension

550hrs PA

No longer ATC
19th Apr 2007, 17:15
Jeez Al...I was taking £1500 home as BA ground staff when I left 8yrs ago....they're taking the p**s.........

apron
19th Apr 2007, 19:04
bmibaby f/o - if paying back type training approx £2700 on a normal month of about 65 hrs

£3000 plus if not

Dogma
19th Apr 2007, 19:25
Thomsonfly year 7 Capt Short Haul.
Lets change this a little - P60 = Gross £94 000 for 600 hours but quite alot of time in taxis and hotac.
Final Salary Pen.

Looking for a pay rise.:ouch:

des1
19th Apr 2007, 20:26
Does anyone have info on Royal Brunei F/O?

Thanks.

bluepeely
19th Apr 2007, 21:53
Electrician/Kitchen fitter. Average 3500-4000 a month currently training modular way to possibly take a pay cut for first flying job .

Must be mental but live the dream hey!

Dogma
19th Apr 2007, 22:40
Bluepeely, Go for it!! Start now because it is a long tough road to the RHS of a jet with a good airline!

Mind you, I have alway thought that working in the trades did not pay nearly enough to compensate for the dullness of the job. I am only to happy to cough up (normally cash) to some poor bloke to unblock my drains, etc.

Get out while you can:ok:

arem
20th Apr 2007, 07:43
BA Pensioner - ex 744's - retired 6 yrs ago - circa £5300pm - every night in bed! usually with the same woman!!

Wingswinger
20th Apr 2007, 09:11
One always thought it a bit common to discuss money in public.

touch&go
20th Apr 2007, 09:23
arem,

You don't know how lucky you are just worked it out and you would need a £1.6 million fund to give you that level of pension, no wonder BA is a pension fund with wings.

Cheers T&G

no sponsor
20th Apr 2007, 09:24
Jet2 737 F/O 1700GBP net last month + 630 bond repayment.

I don't know which Jet2 the F/O earlier in this thread works for, but I work for the one based in the UK.

Field In Sight
20th Apr 2007, 09:28
Wingswinger,

One of my friends works at a bank were it is a dismissible offence to discuss wages.
Talk about keeping the common peasants in their place.

I think open discussion about who gets what and why can only help give us an idea of how badly (or well) off we are.

FIS.

Big Kahuna Burger
20th Apr 2007, 09:51
Regarding Arems BA pension....

Thats is not the case these days. Folk are taking home a fraction of that on the current pension deal, and it will be shrinking further with the present pension deal that is going through at the moment.

OBK!
20th Apr 2007, 09:53
MYT Airbus S/O avg 2500-3300 net per month.

Homepage...how do you manage 3k/month net with jet2?

Re-Heat
20th Apr 2007, 10:17
You guys do realise don't you that this beats many city salaries, largely due to reduced tax rate on flying pay/allowances...?!!

Maude Charlee
20th Apr 2007, 10:24
Fear not Reheat, Greedy Gordo is doing his level best to get his big, fat, grasping Scottish mits on as much of it as he can.

RSinha
20th Apr 2007, 12:39
Re-heat,

Good fund managers/banking hierachy and the like in the city can take home 8 figures or more, in a much smaller timescale than it would take a pilot to hit 6.

For money, there is no comparison.

luc
20th Apr 2007, 13:38
£75000 per year net after tax. AF captain since 2006 ( A320), . But very interesting point by arem, what do you get when retired? will try to find the equivalent in AF ( B744 retired captain and ask). And I am pretty sure it is way less than a BA pilot. Well done Balpa !!!!

maxy101
20th Apr 2007, 18:38
And I am pretty sure it is way less than a BA pilot. Well done Balpa !!!!
Not any more it isn't!

arem
20th Apr 2007, 19:31
Luc & T&G

Yes I do know how luckly I am - but perhaps not as luckly as the guys who were under 55 when the age 60+ came in - I understand that some are on nearly 250k pa now - pension + salary - good on them I say!!

luc
21st Apr 2007, 06:56
Arem,

There was no sarcasm in my remarks at all!!!!. That was a genuine well done to Balpa. I wish we could obtain the same...

....
21st Apr 2007, 09:37
Transavia.com in the Netherlands

Take home pay 2600 euro after 1½ years in service
+ app. 1000 euro into the pension scheme.

600-700 hours a year, extremely tuff schedules, example:

Day 1 check in 4:00 am local time to LPA, landing 16:00 pm
Day 2 check in 16:00 pm local time, landing 4:00 am

And so on....

Wingswinger
21st Apr 2007, 12:08
Yes I do know how luckly I am - but perhaps not as luckly as the guys who were under 55 when the age 60+ came in - I understand that some are on nearly 250k pa now - pension + salary - good on them I say!!

Spare a thought, if you can, for those of us who were not under 55 at !st Oct 06 and who were forced to go despite being nowhere near PP24. Even though I'm doing alright it still rankles.

320.Buser
21st Apr 2007, 12:37
Airbus-320-stick-pusher & puller, app 4000 stick movements per year.
Paid for work? No, 'm prepaid.

Sir George Cayley
21st Apr 2007, 19:43
have you noticed the wide disparity of annual hours flown vs total pay?

As low as 250 hrs per yr up to 1200:eek:

Anyone good at graphs can show hours against pay for the sample? Might make interesting reading for those bumping up to max hours.

At 250 hours a year I could do a window cleaning round too and really make money:ooh:

Sir George Cayley

v1r8
22nd Apr 2007, 06:16
Transavia.com in the Netherlands
Take home pay 2600 euro after 1½ years in service
+ app. 1000 euro into the pension scheme.
600-700 hours a year, extremely tuff schedules, example:
Day 1 check in 4:00 am local time to LPA, landing 16:00 pm
Day 2 check in 16:00 pm local time, landing 4:00 am
And so on...."
----

Let me get this straight. does that mean you are overnighting in LPA for 12 hours straight before ur showtime at LPA ? or does that mean you arrive back in Amsterdam at 16:00 only to show up the next day at the airport at 16:00 PM for a red eye? If that is the case it sucks and I see ur point. However if you are saying you think a 12 hour layover sucks I would encourage you to come over here Stateside and fly for a regional.... 12 hour overnights are like a freaking vacation!!!! try 6/7 hour reduced rest overnights after flying 7 legs on a 14hr duty day. :ugh:

Dus niet zeuren! werken voor je geld !! ;)
proost!

V1.

Homepage
22nd Apr 2007, 15:11
Salary as year 3 jet 2 fo is about £36,300 for someone who joined when I did-not sure what it is now. It increases with annual increments.

£36300 is £3025 pm gross. Pay the tax + national insurance on that and you're left with about £2300 net. Plus duty and sector pay which for me worked out at about £350 pm when taken over the whole of last year: £2650 pm net. Others may be different of course depending on time spent at work and away from base.

In my case, add £250 net per month training pay to my paycheck makes it £2900; so yep it's more like 2900 than 3000.

no sponsor, I can't comment on what the other fo's make, as I don't know whats in their contracts. But it is the same company.

"Costcutting" by watering down new joiners contracts then reflecting it as increased profit on the company's balance sheet is a "clever" tactic developed by companies like ryanair. :yuk: Unfortunately diseases like that seem to be contageous.

pezetaroi
24th Apr 2007, 00:59
Ok, here go my 2006 numbers:
A320/19/18 First Officer
9th year in Mexicana Airlines
Hours Flown: 820
Total Monthly Income (after tax): $7,100 Usd, €5,600
Income includes per deim, food + gas coupons, anual savings fund.
Pension Fund around 10%, still very good medical coverage/insurance, 5 days off per month.
If you have certain seniority you can apply for 7x5 (fly/off)
Vacations down to 30 days (after agreement) and +1 day starting 10th year of seniority
We just signed an agreement lowering our costs because of 6 new LCC in Mexico... so probably these numbers will go down around 15% in 2007...
cheers!

el caballero rojo
24th Apr 2007, 02:27
......................

Paper Lad
24th Apr 2007, 09:38
BMi Regional 145 Capt.
2nd year take home after all deductions inc my pension contributions 3400GBP per month. The figure includes duty pay.
Last year flew 500hrs.
Min 8 days off per month.
Farly stable roster.

FL245
24th Apr 2007, 15:32
Dragonair Hong Kong - Airbus First Officer (Year 1)

Previously EasyJet 737 Captain

Converted From Hong Kong Dollars to UK STG

Monthly:
Base Salary : £3800.00
Housing : £2870.00

Overtime beyond 75 Hours in the month around £50 flying hour
Overtime beyond 85 Hours in the month around £100 flying hour

Annually
Travel Fund : £7000.00
Chinese New Year Bonus : £3800.00 (Months Salary)

Chinese New Year Bonus paid 1/3 year one, 2/3 year 2 and one months salary every year thereafter

15% Gratuity. First paid in year 3 and backdated to cover first 3 years, thereafter annually

All Figures are GROSS and Hong Kong Tax 15% (give or take a little)
In addition, standard Family Medical Cover, School Fees, House Purchase scheme, etc etc

Hours per year? unsure as yet, guess around 750, certainly less than easyJet.

Monthly GROSS Salaries (including Housing Allowance)
Year 1 FO Average Salary (GROSS) £6200
Year 2 FO Average Salary (GROSS) £6400
Year 3 FO Average (Gratuity Year - 3 years backdated ) £8400
Year 4 FO & Thereafter Average Salary (GROSS) Around £7300

Remember GROSS, so deduct around 15% for Gordon Browns buddy in Hong Kong.

Leave
10 Weeks a Year

boeing_driver
25th Apr 2007, 13:02
Air Berlin - Boeing 737 First Officer (Year 3)

average net € 2800 (1900 pounds)

sometimes more sometimes less depending on hours flown that month

New year bonus and expenses included

Base salary (gross) €33150 (22100 pounds) per year

LoL insurance covering €1000 (670 pounds) / month

No pension scheme

860 hours per year

38 days leave / 10 days off per month

s2h
26th Apr 2007, 13:51
Air Mauritius
1st year ATR 72 500 Captain
Equivalent GBP 1740.00, including all benefits.

Lovely view of the ocean
anywhere between 350 and 550 hrs a month
very little chance of Jet upgrade within 4yr period.:{

Recent article in Johannesburg paper, personal secretary gets GBP1755.00

Fiske
26th Apr 2007, 13:54
s2h,

Damn you're busy:}

F4F
26th Apr 2007, 16:02
that's beach chair time, of course :ok:

s2h
27th Apr 2007, 03:35
Sorry, that be in a year!!!:zzz:

Merlinrabbi
27th Apr 2007, 06:19
SIA 777 5 yr CAPT, approx S$270K.

http://travel.asiaone.com.sg/news/20070424_001.html

international hog driver
27th Apr 2007, 06:46
Semi-specialised operation hog drivin'
5 weeks on – 5 weeks off
net US$ 5500 per month year round
max 350-400 hours per annum

6 months free every year…… nobody ever died from under work!

Dockjock
27th Apr 2007, 16:30
Take the time to upload your terms to www.airlinepilotcentral.com
It's already a good resource for N.A. based carriers but international info is somewhat lacking. CHeers

Easy Ryder
28th Apr 2007, 11:41
If you want international T&Cs then you should refer to ppjn.com

This thread though is excellent and eye opening.:ok:

jackiemargot
28th Apr 2007, 14:37
Air One (Italy):

Cpt. 5500-6000euros/month NET depending on hours flown
F/O 3500-4000euros/month NET depending on hours flown

No fixed roster, 10 days off/month (can be reduced to 8),many changes during month and requests to fly on days off(paid extra).

2% contributory pension scheme
LOL
Medical
airport parking

saviboy
29th Apr 2007, 13:50
Metroliner Captain 36000 US dollars a year.
Based in Miami

thepotato232
29th Apr 2007, 23:56
I'm a Year 1 BE1900 F/O in the U.S. with monthly take-home of 1400 USD, give or take a few quarters. Looking at about 8 days off per month. We also get medical and life insurance, to some extent. I'm hoping to fly 1200 hours this year, and shed my distinction as the brokest pilot in this thread by moving to Capt.

BIKKERDENNAH
30th Apr 2007, 05:45
BOEING 777 CAPTAIN 2 YEARS EK

BASIC 29200 DHS OR 4000 UK pounds per month or 7800 US dollars per month. minus 10 percent of salary for pension contributions, health insurance,car loan. Take home 25000 DHS or 3400 UK pounds or 6700 USDollars.

At the moment working very hard and can make 5000 dhs in OVERTIME. However i get no choice about the OT and if i could, would not do it!! But I can bank on 3400 UK pounds take home or 6700 USDollars take home.:ok:

Not that great HUH!!:ugh:

DooblerChina
30th Apr 2007, 21:40
Thomsonfly

3 month F/O and 9 months as S/O £3910 average net pcm
680 hours last year.
Higher than average overtime and Haj contract.

ZK-NSJ
1st May 2007, 07:38
pipefitter on a minesite, 336hrs a month, $6700aud after tax,
4 week on , 1 off contract (unpaid on week off)

bonus's:, a free white knuckle flight on a national threat hairdryer twice a month

Mooney12
1st May 2007, 10:00
Year 1 BA FO on the 737 fleet LGW. Joined on SSP terms
Take home £2200 - £2700 net a month depending how much flying/nightstops.
Pay back £1064 per month in training debts (CTC wings scheme) and £160 average student loan.
Take home is therefore normally around £1200.
This month £900 due leave taken

Mactor
1st May 2007, 10:16
BMED 320/321 capt for 5 years av take home £4500, flying 600 hours a year. Not sure how that will change come October when we become bmi

SinBin
1st May 2007, 14:45
It'll probably increase slightly, what's a bmi FO average per month?

Jinkster
1st May 2007, 15:15
FR cadet - take home £730/ month (line training so no sector pay)

wizad
1st May 2007, 16:22
guys.

this is a great thread... if for nothing else than for us ATC types to be a little nosey and satisfy more than a few curiosities.. that and to compare it with our pay aswell.

personally i was not aware of the actual range of the pay scales for you guys 'up there', has made some interesting reading for some of us.

W

Capt Mullet
1st May 2007, 20:00
9000 pounds/month

less than 400 hours year

Medical, schooling, 10 weeks off, travel, family...it's just sounds all too good to be true!

And it is. You work for BAE in Saudi Arabia - the world second biggest aerospace company and the world's largest parasite.

Expect to work for half-wit ex-corporal nobodies who have now magically found themselves in power and now in charge of billions of pounds.

Expect to answer to third world control freaks who have all the knowledge and professionalism of BAE management.

It's a partnership made in heaven.

jumboy
2nd May 2007, 14:00
F/O Oasis HKG HK$ 56,000/month plus allnces HK$1000/day plus dental, lossof licence, medical and housing HK$25,000/month plus flying with the best 747 Skippers from BA/CX. 3 aircraft now , 2 more this year, 747 conversion cost £14,000 pay back over 15 months.

400 Jockey
2nd May 2007, 19:48
SFO on the 400 with Cathay Take home before Tax is 5700 Pounds - Net about 4100 Pounds

HOMER SIMPSONS LOVECHILD
2nd May 2007, 19:55
Sorry, but wtf exactly is a "Hog" and how does one "drive" one?(assuming we're not talking Harleys)
Does it involve banjos?

Carter123
2nd May 2007, 21:59
Air Berlin F/O 1 Year 737, 2700€ per month with approx. 70 hrs. 880hrs per year.

Greets

400drvr
2nd May 2007, 23:39
KE 744 Captain $12160 usd/month... just received a $1000.00/month contract increase so now were at $13160/month, increase effective October 2007.
$175.46/hour if you fly over 75.
Cheers

luc
3rd May 2007, 09:05
Are pilots pensions taxed in UK?
I am trying to compare both air France and BA pilots pensions?
Figures were mentionned in the thread but I don't know if it is before or after tax? or is it not taxed at all?
A320 AF captain

dreamingA380
3rd May 2007, 11:40
Eastern airways, T/Prop 2yr F/O :- £1800 after tax and allowances.

Last question asked by management was 'So why are you leaving?' ;)

Excellent thread.

arem
3rd May 2007, 18:21
luc
yes - pilots pensions are taxable as normal income

sorry luc - just seen your pm - have replied to it

WTB
4th May 2007, 07:40
Dragonair FO, Hong Kong based, Year 2

Take home just over HKD104000 (GBP6600 GBP1 = HKD15.6) including HKD44000 KA give me to pay the mortgage. Overtime over 75 hours at HKD775 (GBP50) for first 5 hours thereafter the rate doubles to HKD1550 (GBP100) per hour.

Company don't like overtime so average 75 hours a month!

Travel allowance to/from work HKD2000 = GBP128 a month.

Free medical/dental for whole family but medical scheme is full of holes.

Travel fund for me is around HKD147000 a year = GBP9423

Chinese New Year bonus is one extra months salary (1/3 year 1, 2/3 year 2, full month year 3) guaranteed.

15% of salary gratuity paid at end of year 3 backdated, thereafter 15% annually. So for an FO it's around HKD320000 (GBP20512) paid on your 3rd anniversary in the company - if you make Captain by then add GBP10,000.

Profit share from our owners at CX? who knows.

Tax around the 16% mark off the above depending on status/children etc.

10 7 day periods of leave a year which may be combined to give 2/3/4 weeks off at a time if you need it.

Work less than I previously did as a low cost captain on 737s and now have a life. No payrise for 6 years here now though plus the pollution issue and increasing time to command means many FOs will leave after their first 3 years is up or transfer back to Europe on the 747-400.

Lost at fl345
4th May 2007, 07:55
Jazeera airways captain will take about 10000 euros per month for 90hrs duty total about 880 hours per year,tax free in his first year, increases about 250 euros per month every 3 years in service. As for a f/o average intake per month is 8100 per month for 90 hours command usually 2-3 years max

endofeng
4th May 2007, 09:03
Flybe-Q400 F/O 3rd year. Take home (net) £1800ish (varies with flight pay)

£2200ish paid in, but £425 taken out for bond.

One of the reasons why I'm leaving!:ugh:


endofeng:ok:

Monde
4th May 2007, 09:34
NCA First Officer year one.

$8615 per month, plus $1350 commuting allowance, plus $1,000 per month invested over 24 months & paid as a completion bonus at the end of the contract, approx $700 - $800 per month allowances.

Private health cover, long term sickness cover & death in service included but no loss of licence.

Approx 400-450 hours per annum.

easyprison
4th May 2007, 10:24
Am I right in thinking that a BA Longhaul Capt get's nearly £1500 - £2000 more than a Virgin Skipper per month?

Tags
4th May 2007, 14:59
Am I right in thinking that a BA Longhaul Capt get's nearly £1500 - £2000 more than a Virgin Skipper per month?

Ish, ball park figures, 20% more work, 25% more money, most guys in Virgin would rather retain the 750hr annual limit and forgo the money.

Jinkster
4th May 2007, 21:58
Great thread - looks like im the lowest paid and i thought people flying jets had better pay packets! :{

airmen
5th May 2007, 07:18
Switzerland
200 hrs/year
daily expenses paid
F/O Citation 3050 Euros net
CDR Citation 4600 Euros net

spernkey
5th May 2007, 13:26
Private pilot doing 600-800 hours a year in a 172 Grossing £3,000 per week in the photo business + loving it these last 10 years.

supadupafly
5th May 2007, 14:04
BA 777 F/O 2nd Year

After tax and minimum contribution to money purchase pension,

£3260, £3300, £2790 (due leave), £3410

Average 5 trips a month, approx 850 hrs/yr.
4 weeks leave and 2 weeks duty free, effectively 6 weeks off a year.
Guys getting command on 777 now been in approx 17 years.

Previous job as F/O in UK, better paid and much better quality of life, though the guys further up the pecking order in BA tell me things get a lot better as seniority picks up :bored:

shortfuel
5th May 2007, 22:32
..........

the egg man
5th May 2007, 23:11
licenced engineer working as a contractor, typed on b737 classic and ng 757/767,A320series and A330/340.
working in various locations worldwide on short contracts,presently stuck at heathrow.
average take home £3500 net but a lot more if overtime is included each month.
very happy with what i have do not need any more money.

thepotato232
6th May 2007, 06:24
Great thread - looks like im the lowest paid and i thought people flying jets had better pay packets! :{

*AHEM*
I'd like to cut across you right there. You and I look to have about the same takehome pay. I'm flying the line, you're in training. I didn't get paid at all in training. I claim victory on the basis of being the lowest-paid flying pilot on the board, provided I'm not too lost on the USD - Pound conversion.

Heh, sorry. There's not a whole lot else to be proud of at this job...

Doug the Head
6th May 2007, 07:36
Private pilot doing 600-800 hours a year in a 172 Grossing £3,000 per week in the photo business + loving it these last 10 years. Damn! Can I please have your job? :) Apart from the money, you probably still love flying as well! :ok:

Oh yeah, in case it hasn't been mentioned: EZY SFO: netto roughly £3300,-/month which includes £400,- repayment of type rating costs (TRSS) and 7% additional contribution towards pension.

Shaka Zulu
6th May 2007, 09:52
2nd year FO 777 BA.
Same figures as Supadupafly
Switched EZY to BA, gave up a lot of money for the swap too. Sit idle for 10 years methinks and see what happens.

non iron
7th May 2007, 00:50
Flat rate 3600 euros.
- 1000 euros per diems.
- 400 euros/ mth travel allowance.
Object of the excercise 900hrs/yr.
Turnover horrendous.
Job done.

non iron
7th May 2007, 02:19
Time to expand the net ?

The pilots are recovering from 9/11, just. What of the the other two Licenced branches ?

NG800
7th May 2007, 20:44
TUIfly FO 4th year B737:

4000€ net basic (including: LOL, pension from 60-65 (~ 3800 € gross old / ~ 3150€ new contracts ) expenses, based on 70block hours p.m.)

+ ~ 80 € (gross) per block hour (70-80 b.h.) / (26€ for contracts after 07/2004)

+ ~ 105 € (gross) -"- (over 80 b.h.) / (62€ after 07/2004)

Max 100b.h. in 28 days / 11 days off min / 42 days leave / average 800 hrs Loco/charter per year.

= Average 5000,00€ net
:}

EK Snorkel
7th May 2007, 21:49
= Average 5000,00€ net


Is that after or before tax?

Cheers

rduarte
7th May 2007, 23:23
I guess net is after tax. :rolleyes:

FlyingOW
8th May 2007, 02:38
3rd year B763ER FO LAN Peru

2600 USD per month based on 70 hrs.......30 USD per additional hour

5-700 USD in "Viaticos" or per diems dependent on destination

Double basic pay in FEB/ JUL/ DEC

8-10 trips per month.....4-5 days off (6 on 1 off):{

Cheers

OW

endofeng
8th May 2007, 08:49
rduarte,

Yes, as Sir Richard Branson described it, if you go fishing, the fish you catch in your net and haul on board is what you actually take home(net)....The fish that escaped your net whilst pulling them in, the FAT TAX MAN ate!(gross):}

endofeng:ok:

Fatboy Ginge
8th May 2007, 09:31
Being a non-pilot (but a desparate wannabe) I take home approx £1650 per month (paid weekly) as a lorry driver, duty hours are 51 a week but work only for about 45, the benefits of job and knock.

Could always be more but I refuse to do overtime for the barstewards that I work for.

Hey could be worse... I could be flying for Ryanair. :)

zzz
8th May 2007, 11:00
BA nine years, Capt on 737. Average £5300 net pcm. 770hours per year, usual BA benefits.

zzz

scruggs
8th May 2007, 11:19
PhD Student. Take home basic £1300 (none-taxable) + £15 per hour for any teaching I do, and I usually manage about 12 hours per month.

I usally pick up around £1500. This is also after the monthly deduction of £332 for my course fees.

S

Alan42
8th May 2007, 12:35
Dash-8 captain for CHC Helicopters based in Libya.4 weeks on/ 4 off.....
3800 pound a month, also on months off.

ChocksAwayUK
8th May 2007, 20:16
The forum the beancounters hoped would never happen. Your news on pay, rostering, allowances, extras and negotiations where you work. Let others in the industry make educated choices on where the grass is less brown! Scheduled, charter or contract -

Is this topic description for this forum new? Good stuff - it's about time people (in all industries) stopped seeing discussions of salary as some kind of faux pas. Keep the discussion going and everyone join BALPA.

Personally... EZ CTC recruit. £1000/month subsistence salary for the next (first) six months until I've proved myself but looking forward to things getting significantly better in November. And then better still!

skylux2
10th May 2007, 08:40
germania year3 F/O
base pay:2500+50hrs=3600eur.(before tax) normal around 3000eur. with 75hrs.:(

3holer
10th May 2007, 16:33
Korean Air B777 DEC
US$ 10500 (net) per month plus around US$ 1000 per diem
16 working days + 3 travel days and 11 days off and about 75 hours p/m
no vacation:{

MDDog
10th May 2007, 16:49
MD11 CA with Gemini ACMI, $10,000/mo average with per diem and 13-15 days off a month with home based and business class travel to and from airplane when in India and Africa (1/2 the time). Typical month is 30-40 hours, with 2-3 days between trips. 3 weeks/yr vac which turns into 5-7 weeks with creative biding.

wokkameister
10th May 2007, 16:59
Military Helicopter Crewman - £2500pm (if they get it right)

More if I spend my life in the Sand...but not enough more

308Win
11th May 2007, 15:28
Flight Lieutenant, Short Service, 2 years to out, flying in the desert on another nations jets.

£4000 pcm
Further £3500 pa for bills etc
House rental paid
Free car
Fuel 15p litre
Pension at 60/65 (poor though as only a scuffing Flt Lt)
Med/Dent
Plenty of leave (flexi rules and loads of random days for Muslim Hols)
Half day working days

Plenty of time to do the licences before the jump :}

SunDowner69r
11th May 2007, 23:40
25 years:eek: working my way up through electronics for a well known broadcaster sees me managing 10 staff for about 60 hours / week.
This equates to around £3000 / month net.
All of last years leave went on sitting at Bristol and then Gatwick for 6 weeks followed by more leave for CPL / IR.
Recent promotion means it is more difficult now to jump ship and take a paycut and start again from the bottom.
Now if I could only get made redundant - $$$$:rolleyes:

Shag
12th May 2007, 04:47
Ex-pat Brit living in the US and flying for a US low-cost airline (AirTran Airways). Just past 3 yrs with the company and now a B-737 Capt taking home on average 8500 USD after taxes, union dues and medical insurance have been taken. (Medical coverage is very steep at our compnay compared to other US carriers but with no NHS, you've got to suck it up!). Also, our company drops an additional 10.5% of your pay into a stock market based retirement account for you.

Gas (petrol) has just topped the $3 mark and they complain about it!!

jhx
13th May 2007, 08:38
A310-304, German Airforce - VIP Goverment Ops, Pax, Cargo, Medevac
10th year F/O - 26days of per year
2450€, no extras, ~0,60€ per hour when flying at weekend or holiday :yuk:

Somebody needs a pilot ? ...will fly for food !

luke77
14th May 2007, 14:11
I'm ex-RAF, could anyone tell me what an aircrew Flt Lt, Sqn Ldr and Wg Cdr take home if on a sqn in the uk?
I'm a BA SFO so I won't repeat what's been said already!

MOB P45
14th May 2007, 18:13
S.F/O Net Pay pm = GB£3200 (Basic 1500 + Sector 1700 on average)

Average hours in 2006 = 750
Very stable roster pattern of 5 on, 3 or 4 off depending on base
You pay for:-
Full Uniform, Car park, bottled water & food, travel & hotel for Sim checks,
Damage to Aircraft if you are a new Capt!!!!!!

Benefits: Ryanair supply Aircraft, Fuel, Cabin Crew, Pax, PLOG, Toilet Paper and annual morale boosting pay negotiations (Pay Cuts every year)

thebeast
14th May 2007, 18:35
'Benefits: Ryanair supply Aircraft, Fuel, Cabin Crew, Pax, PLOG, Toilet Paper and annual morale boosting pay negotiations (Pay Cuts every year)'

but you have to supply your own bin bags now!:O

MOB P45
14th May 2007, 21:48
I wish i could say that 'the beast' was joking, but he is not.

allatp
15th May 2007, 05:00
HI!!
I know I could sound a little off regarding geographic situation!!!! But, does anyone know what the pay for FOs is in COPA (Panama)?
I would also like to know the pay for the FOs in LanColombia as well.

Thanks for the info!!

AA

152wiseguy
17th May 2007, 12:44
Hey MOB,

If you don't mind me asking, how long have you been working for Ryan and how many hours did you have on joining? I guess that's not the starting pay?

Got a friend looking at the cadet scheme so trying to figure out if it is a bad move or not.

aulglarse
18th May 2007, 01:33
Jetstar A320 Capt.
up to 1000hrs/yr
Avg last 6 months
92 hrs block
+75hrs $161 Aud/hr (179/hr as of AUG'07)
=$14,142/mnth, less tax=$9500
no o'nights
9%super from gross
13 days off avg:)
42 days annual leave

MOB P45
18th May 2007, 08:32
152 Wiseguy

S F/O grade requires 1500 on JAR 25 a/c. Either join with these hours or get upgraded when you get the hours.
I think someone else has already posted what Cadets earn.

thereceiver2004
18th May 2007, 09:25
Yr 2 F/O ATR42/72 AerArann in Ireland.
Average take home is €3300 pm (£2100) (lowest €2400 highest €3900)
sectors are €12,
duty hours €1.60,
meals €8 (1 for 4 sectors),
overnights €31 in EIRE €66 outside (get paid for sim trips to Tououse)
D/O payments are €200
great little company, fly average of 750 hours per year

152wiseguy
18th May 2007, 14:08
Thanks MOB, just found it.

TE RANGI
18th May 2007, 19:14
Spanair A320 skipper, based PMI.

In '06 averaged out 8890 euro/month after tax, everything included.

836 hrs total, one month leave.

Perks include LOL, medical, dental insurance, concessionary travel in house plus a host of ZED carriers, breakfast and (some) meals at hotels, guaranteed employment at basic salary in the event of a busted medical, but NO provident fund (yet).

Quite stable rosters (on this fleet). Could be better, could be worse.

dogstar2
18th May 2007, 20:18
Squdron Leader RAF take home is approx 3500 per month between 20 and 30 hours per month of brilliant flying. Pension is v.good with no contributions. Couldn't work with a finer bunch of people.

kiloquebec
19th May 2007, 03:58
Canadian ATC

Net 6050 CAD (4,120 euro) per month after high Canadian taxes.

Benefits are fine, but most people assume that we also get free/cheap flights - which we don't! Nav Canada has actually been able to negotiate train discounts for us though, if that makes any sense... That's where all you pilots are lucky (as well as the higher pilot salaries of course)

strtomdf
19th May 2007, 11:36
Widerψe Norway, Senior first officer 9th year on Dash 8 400 and 300, about 600 hrs a year, 7 days on 7 days off, 9 weeks of vacation a year( 3 work periods off gives 9 weeks due to free period either side of work period). Loss of licence insurance, life insurance, excellent pension, phone allowance, Take home pay aprox.33.000 N.kr( £ 2900, 4200 euros) depending on pr.diem.

UP and Down Operator
19th May 2007, 14:48
Anyone knows what a DE SFO @<hidden> EZY have as average takehome ???

Thanks :ok:

aviate2day
25th May 2007, 11:04
Jet2 FO
Avg £2,850 after our "pay review":rolleyes:
This includes the £638 tax free element for the type rating, which is over 3 years. So take home will be about £200 less when taxed at full rate.
Company contributes 4% pension, with £80 or so from me. But there is precious little else in the package such as Health care, LOL etc.

S44
25th May 2007, 16:10
anybody got any info about take home pay at GSS?

dlav
25th May 2007, 18:03
Just a quick question for some of you lucky SSP chappies, how are you finding the salary initially?

I understand it is considerably reduced, and combined with having to live in london, do you find it provides a comfortable standard of living?

Have a sim check in a few weeks, just curious!

dlav

Track
26th May 2007, 19:52
Transavia.com Captain 737

9 years in the company. Capt since 2 years. 32 yrs old.

4500 Euro on my account after 52% tax/l.o.l./pension and all else.

+8 % extra in may, 4 % in december and up to 8% in august depending on company profit (average 4% last 8 years).

650 hrs a year of wich 350 in the 4 summer months / 3 days off every week but gruelling reporting times and often 14+ hr duties.

ICING AOA
26th May 2007, 20:15
Benefits: Ryanair supply Aircraft, Fuel, Cabin Crew, Pax, PLOG, Toilet Paper and annual morale boosting pay negotiations (Pay Cuts every year)


ROFL:}:}

that's crazy :eek:

OPEN DES
27th May 2007, 13:45
easyJet direct entry SFO A319, UK contract
23 years old

continental base

avg 5500 euro after tax / month

plus LOL, pension, healthcare etc..

Alan42
27th May 2007, 17:58
I'm a current Dash-8 captain who has been hired by FlyBe, but hasn't made a decision yet whether or not to go for the job.
Does anyone know what the takehome is (after tax) per month? Part of my decision will be based on this.....

Thanks!!!!

theWings
27th May 2007, 19:41
Alan42, doesn't it say in your Terms of Employment?!:confused:

GConti
27th May 2007, 19:41
F/O Blue Islands
Jetstream 32
Annual £31000 Gross, Take Home £2100 Net
No other benefits

apron
27th May 2007, 20:54
Open Des, are you telling me that a sfo at easy on a british contract earns in the region of £4000 after tax? (using 1.4 conversion)

If so is this an average or with days sold etc?

Sgnr de L'Atlantique
29th May 2007, 08:52
Untill 6 months ago Snr FO A330 Qatar Airways

Basic salary 5700USD
Allowances fix 3500USD
Flight pay 25usd/hour * 90 hrs = 2250 usd

Total: 11450 USD/month

Captain :E

Basic salary 7300USD
Allowances fix 5000USD
Flight pay 33usd/hour * 90 hrs = 2970 Usd

Total: 15279 USD/month

Extra perks: 42 days leave/year, LoL, hospital insurance, end of service benefits ( 3 weeks basic salary/year of service), all hotel meals paid, free laundry, schooling paid up to 13800USD/year, full staff travel program ( ID90 etc), one confirmed annual leave ticket home, food drinks and toilet paper are free and available on board ( inclusive caviar and lobster if you are a nice guy)

downsides as well but for those, please visit the middle east forum...plenty of shit flying around there...

westie
30th May 2007, 20:57
aren't we the lucky one Nigel

Irene
31st May 2007, 04:02
Co-pilot on Beech 1900, Afghanistan - $3800 per month (when on tour), $1800 per month (when off tour). Rotation is 2 months on, 1 month off.

Perks: All living expenses covered when on tour, all travel costs between home and Kabul covered.

Extra perk: All small arms fire directed at aircraft is free of charge:}

thrust clb
31st May 2007, 07:32
5 years now with Cebu Pacific..Manila, Philippines. Currently Capt on 319/320.USD$ 4300 net on average of 90 hours/month.

Sgnr de L'Atlantique
31st May 2007, 08:40
1 confirmed ticket

Unlimited amount of ID tickets

Impress to inflate
31st May 2007, 09:34
Five year North Sea Capt with small amount of overtime = £4000 and thats after £550 salary sacrifice for final salary pension scheme. Thats working an equal time time roster i.e week on week off.

bleeds off
31st May 2007, 14:24
Casablanca based "Regional Air Lines" ATR 42:
New pay deal:
Take home:

FO's: $5175.
Skippers: $8000.
Tax free.

Currently recruiting
bleeds:p

highlandinstructor
31st May 2007, 15:28
Highland Airways Jetstream FO. £21k, £1400 per month after tax - not a penny more. No flight pay, loss of licence. Have to pay own medical. I think I need to join you GConti! There can't be many Turboprop FO's in the UK as badly off as this surely?

3Greens
1st Jun 2007, 08:27
Rollover

I too am with BA as a SFO on the 757.
We DO NOT get "about 4 ID100s" per year for the whole family.

I get one and i have 8 years serveice.

I see from your profile you claim to be 17 years old. :mad:

freightdogg
1st Jun 2007, 09:54
ok guys here we go , last 12 months net ,£3230, 4200, 3900, 4100, 4200, 3800, 3600, 4500, 3000, 3500, 3900, 3400.the lower figures are when im on leave, i dont bid and allow ba to place me on a blind line,but request "high credit" trips to favourite destinations.the work is incredibly easy.the time off in between good.bidline i think will give me more control and perhaps more cash if i want to bid for trips further afieild.as one of the guys mentioned ,pay rise looming. for info an average increment for fo is approx £2000.this will put my 3rd year basic at £50000 approx plus flight pay. i was a uk charter captain on A321/320.so you see with flight pay your almost back there in your 3rd year.:ok::ok:

bleeds off
1st Jun 2007, 10:21
Any info about Air Contractors ATR FO's ?
Thx
Bleeds:p

Brianigham
3rd Jun 2007, 02:49
Malaysia Airlines

737-400 Captain./ +8000 jet time (including wb fo time)
Take home (all allowances included) MYR 15000 per month average.
Currency Converter Results
Friday, June 01, 2007
15000 Malaysian Ringgit(s) = 2229.04 British Pound(s)
1 GBP = 6.72936 MYR
1 MYR = 0.148603 GBP

badairsucker
1st Jul 2007, 14:15
Cathay Pacific 777 FO
4300 pounds per month plus 4000 pounds per month housing. Tax is 16%.

Speedbird451
4th Jul 2007, 22:10
BA FO, Airbus320, Y2, average £3500 with minimum pension contribution. Flies 75h/month on a full month, which amounts to much more time spent at work because of Heathrow. You can get more money, as much as £4400. I did it the first few months, but I got fatigued and on the third month, my ears gave up and I missed a couple of trips. So now, I just stick with my normal pattern and £3500 and in fact would prefer to work less and make less since Heathrow really takes life out of me.