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mitnick
29th Mar 2007, 20:41
Hello
does anybody know which is the smallest multiengine aircraft?
need to know:confused:
thanks
mitnick
lostinBRU
29th Mar 2007, 20:44
Try Googling "Cri Cri" :}
flyboy320
29th Mar 2007, 20:47
....is called "CriCri" and has 16' wingspan and a lenth of around 12'
mitnick
29th Mar 2007, 20:49
that was fast
thanks:ok:
mitnick
BackPacker
29th Mar 2007, 21:56
There's even a jet version.
Chuck Ellsworth
29th Mar 2007, 21:56
http://media.skoopy.com/misc/small_plane/
Remember this........
http://www.btinternet.com/~paul.evans28/Speedtwin.bmp
BackPacker
29th Mar 2007, 22:45
WR, can you back that up? Because if there is one twin that has a very marginal performance when flying on a single engine, it would be the cri cri. And I think the cri cris engine were not aero engines by origin, but came from chain saws. So they would not have the reliability of your average aero engine too.
Granted, you can land it in spaces that helicopters would probably stay away from, and the cri cri is not your average IFR steed, but still...
I even read an article that when the builder/owner of the jet engined cri cri wanted to start flying his creation, he had to get a multi jet engine license first. As the cri cri is a solo machine, he could not get his training on the cri cri. So he had to pay for a 500 USD an hour fighter trainer (don't remember the type, but looked like an F15 or so) to get the appropriate license.
Ultralights
29th Mar 2007, 23:09
i have plans for a cri cri here, and a friend of mine has one 90% complete, with the 15 hp engine, they can climb at 250 ft/min on 1 engine! their single engine performance is better than most GA twins! they have minimal asymmetric tendencies as the prop wash from each engine is deflected by the canopy so with 1 engine out, the prop wash from the live engine being deflected counteracts the yaw tendencies, and also with engine so close to the centreline, there is little yaw anyway
xrayalpha
30th Mar 2007, 07:30
Of course you could also fly the Lazair - not smaller than the Cri Cri if you are measuring wingspan, but may actually be lighter.
And with it being a microlight, unlike the Cri Cri, it is in a "smaller" category ;-)
And you don't need a twin rating.
G-MBYI is my Lazair, there's a pic of one on G-INFO under G-MVGZ
Very best wishes,
Colin
The Cri-Cri is very aerobatic, has a 180Kg gross weight and was designed by Michel Colomban, one of a number of aircraft he is responsible for including the MC100 BanBi, and in collaboration with Mr Robin, for the MCR01.
http://www.cricri.co.uk/cricri_history.htm
It can have, depending on which engines are fitted, very good single engine performance. I have witnessed one doing aerobatics on one engine and it was coping fine. As to the “not a real aircraft engine” most of you have powerplants originally designed as ground power units.
Rod1
'Chuffer' Dandridge
30th Mar 2007, 12:48
Can thoroughly reccommend the Cri-Cri.. Flown it and done aerobatics in it and it's a delightful little machine. Not sure about whether you need a MEP rating or not (I did have one) but if you get the chance to have a go, rip the owners arm off!!!
The only thing that is odd is starting with a pull cord a la lawnmower, and you sort of sit with your legs either side of a clear plastic fuel tank....:eek:
Baron Von Mildred
30th Mar 2007, 21:51
I guess this http://www.flixxy.com/jet-man.htm is technically multi engine (jet) and smaller than a cri-cri!
Not for the faint hearted though.
BlueRobin
31st Mar 2007, 08:50
BRL, Phillips Speedtwin. I've only seen photos of it! Looks very nice though ... :cool: Whatever happened to it?
Bigwings
9th Apr 2007, 08:01
Can also be found here
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=270232&highlight=smallest+twin
Bigwings :)
shetlander
9th Apr 2007, 10:00
Ok guys,
You have got me interested in the Cri-Cri now. I love the little thing!!
So I am in the UK, I am interested in building or buying a Cri-Cri, can anyone point me in a good direction to go.?
Anyone have plans or parts that would be of interest to me?
Cheers,
Shetlander:cool:
Bigwings
9th Apr 2007, 10:15
Info on plans parts etc can be found here (http://www.flight.cz/cricri/english/cri-cri-links-contacts.php)
Bigwings :)
tacpot
9th Apr 2007, 10:53
The following wbesite always seems to have a Cri-cri for sale. (Search for MC15 as well as CriCri)
http://www.ff-aero.fr/accueil.php?item=11&a_item=1&include=annonces
Gipsy Queen
10th Apr 2007, 01:29
ROD1
Good point - Lycomings, Continentals, Franklins et al used to be known in the UK as "sawmill" engines.
I'm astounded by aeros on one chainsaw engine. Things obviously have moved on a bit since the days when I struggled to maintain height on one Cirrus Minor in a Miles Gemini!
LowNSlow
10th Apr 2007, 10:51
Just to give some news about the Phillips Speedtwin. Malcolm Ducker’s prototype Speedtwin Mk 2, similar to Peter Phillips’ Mk 1 flew at the end of March. The Ducker version has an all-new and stronger all-metal airframe and a pair of LOM engines of 140 horsepower each replacing the 100 horsepower Continental 0-200’s in the Mk 1. Years of effort have been expended so let's hope they make a kit of it so that more of these wonderfull machines can grace the skies.