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7th Mar 2007, 22:21
Most of us have probably seen the Garuda Indonesia crash on the news over the past 24 hours.
It has claimed 23 lives.
Here in Australia, there has been footage of the accident taken just meters from the wreckage, from a person who was on the flight.
I wonder if the person who stopped to get out their video equipment, hindered the chance of any of these 23 people of surviving?
8th Mar 2007, 02:48
flytheplanemay... yeah, good question. Ive only seen footage taken from about 100m away, shots of the whole fuselage burning, and the injured escaping. Oh, plus a few right up close, but it appeared to have stopped burning. It'd have to be a decent sized camera to take those shots though.
So fingers crossed it did not impede anyone elses chances while he grabbed it. In a perfect world he would have just got himself out and assisted the injured (like you see the flight attendants doing in his footage).
On the other hand...
Its very rare you will see video footage of that quality, just seconds after a genuine accident. Infact, I would suggest that the footage taken would have to be the best quality i've ever seen. The benefits of this are many - I can guarantee youll see this footage in a few airlines' ground schools/training programs. Now, being indonesia, and an indonesian airline for that matter, the true cause of an air crash is rarely exposed. Footage like this could provide investigators with the clue they need to understand why it happened.
The flight attendants looked to have swung into action, you could see a few of them assisting injured outside the aircraft, probably badly injured themselves.
This has been discussed lots on the other threads on the crash.
The footage was shot by a local cameraman under contract to Ch7 - he was helped 100m from the plane as he had a broken leg before he started filming.
8th Mar 2007, 04:53
The "Should he" discussion has been done to death on R&N. there are valid points for boths views. The basic fact is, what's done is done. He took it, and filmed. The footage may help in some way, and yes it's possible it hindered. Nothing can change that now.
People died, everyone did what they thought was best at the time. Let's not underestimate the effects of shock, injuries etc.
Anyone criticising FAs (as some implied on other thread), as Oz said, you can see them assisting in the footage. I'
m also sure (as I've said in another post on R&N) that you can see one of the FAs running BACK to the wreckage, after she is about 100m away. Brave, especially if you're hurt yourself.
Will be interesting to see what, if anything, the investigations from the local end find out/reveal to the world.
8th Mar 2007, 05:03
I would never expect anyone to criticise a Flight Attendant for doing the best they could in a catastophic situation. I get goose bumps when I see how they did the utmost to help people in these dire circumstances.
I havent seen the discussion on the other forum, I was just wondering how the footage was filmed. It seems no matter what disaster, human error or natural, someone always seems to have a camera handy!
8th Mar 2007, 05:19
The guy was a cameraman travelling on the flight with Channel 7. My guess is the camera is a handheld job, and like most 'camera nuts' (photographers) I know he would probably have been using it during landing anyway.
One of the articles mentions him being dragged from the wreckage as he had a broken leg, which is backed up by his footage as he's only filming AFTER he is out of the wreck (unlike other accidents where they've filmed while they're evacuating)
9th Mar 2007, 10:07
Does anyone know if all crew members survived?
9th Mar 2007, 16:24
Apparently the FA1 (I presume that means Purser/Supervisor etc) did not survive, from what I have read :(
10th Mar 2007, 11:02
Sadly but incredibly only one crew member perished, this was Purser Wiranto Wooryono. A statement from Garuda....
"President Director and CEO of Garuda Indonesia, Mr Emirsyah Satar accompanied the remains of Purser Wiranto Wooryono on flight GA433 to Jakarta. Mr Satar delivered the deceased to family members in a symbolic ceremony held at Soekarno-Hatta International Airport, Jakarta".