Mercs r us RAAF Recruitment

[Charlie Luncher]

The RAAF is still looking for experienced, which does not mean old, personnel for lateral transfer. The high priority trades are listed on http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/default.asp?p=1052
but others will be considered on merit. They may even consider the odd Air Engineer for Maritime as long as they sign a clause to limit themselves to only one choccy bar per sortie and never smelling of wee, tackling fat chicks is something we understand we will never break you out of!:p .
PM or post if you wish:ok:
Charlie sends

[Charlie Luncher]

Yes without a doubt:8
Charlie sends

[donpizmeov]

Charlie,

Is ownership and shipment of a hairdresser's car still a requirement? :}

Don

[L J R]

Charlie, what is your cut as a talent scout?

[humour]

If anyone has transferred recently is the grass greener, more lush and does it need cutting?

[circle kay]

L J R,

I think as Charlie now has a commission, he thinks he gets a commission for everyone he helps to defect.:)

[DFM]

Charlie..................when you said "the odd air eng".....was that a statement, as in ODD, or an oxymoron?...........as in P3 eng's only work in pairs?.........hope the life of a SEM is sooting you fine pal......................live long......life is good!.......................luv to K.:)

[PommieB'stard]

As one who has recently moved, yes it is good but as with anything life is what you make it.
They have their problems/gripes/whinges but no regrets....
Yet!

[Flight Detent]

What's this about P3 engs only working in pairs.....some of the time, but certainly not always!!
It's a crew duty thing!

Cheers, FD :confused:

[Charlie Luncher]

Don
The shipping of a tarts car is ideal unless you want one of Elizabeth's finest built bogan sleds:= . As has been mentioned I did spend a couple of weeks in Point Cook for a bit of camping and sword drill, so I know a good surgeon who can close up the wound for you:E . Caught up with Butler in ISK offered to carry his bags, like the steward does for you I hear!!:ok:

LJR
The current fee is as much Marmite as they can get past AQIS for personal use so I dont have to eat the other one. The odd decent pint never goes amiss.
H
The grass is sort of dried out brown due to piggin hot sun, so different and the same really.
DFM
As stated all Air engs are odd, you may even see some work out of the odd one or 2. They work in pairs not due to crew duty, but due to some of the women they tackle are just too big for one man alone:D .

Keep safe warriors
Charlie sends

[Charlie Luncher]

Still looking, internal boards for remusters will be complete soon so firm numbers should be known soon-ish:ok:
Charlie sends

[Charlie Luncher]

Ok we are now getting desperate I have been asked to pass on that we will even consider Jockanese applicants (except those who bide fre Banff) as long as English is their first language, applicants may have to take a language assessment the same as other foreign migrants:ugh: :{ :E .
Charlie sends
from a chilly 34C

[D-IFF_ident]

My papers are in!

:ok:

[996]

Are you saying that there is no criterion for residency [10 years] any more?

[juliet]

Charlie,

Can you delete some of the messages in your Inbox so I can get a PM through to you?

Cheers

[StopStart]

Does anyone have any info on pay scales for lateral recruits into the RAAF? Nothing in the general info pack I received.

I also note that RAF pensions are taxed by the oz govt :{

D-IFF - maybe I'll see you there then! :)

[antipodean alligator]

With the announcement of the Super Bug acquisition I guess that Tonka Navs (even ex-Fag Charioteers!) can start thinking of sunnier climes again....
It was looking pretty grim with the Pig being close to retirement, but now there will be back seats in the F Models to fill in your work time whilst you are not at the Gold/Sunshine Coast!

Rest assured Amberley is a much better place to be than Marham Field!!

LJR - When are you coming home??

[Duncan D'Sorderlee]

Too old - :ugh:

Ah well never mind

Duncs:ok:

[Zeibart]

Duncs

The website says age 39 cap for aircrew, but that is definitely a soft ceiling if you have the skills they're after, which is :ok:

[Charlie Luncher]

Admin cleared, never was much good with paperwork!:*
Residency is 5 year permanent resident visa, clause is to become citizen as soon as possible which is 90 days of military service to qualify. Kids can be on parents passport at 90 days but your spouse will have to wait 2 years. Also you do not have to be married, they recognise common law relationships and are classed as "de Facto" for all benefits. You can keep your citizenship of birth and go dual passport, except the scottish who are required to change for their own good:eek: . Pensions are taxed, as they are classed as a second income at 40-odd%, you just need a dodgy tax accountant to help the tax burden decrease, I am too young and good looking to have a pension, but do have a dodgy tax man if you need his details.
Rough salaries are for aircrew SNCO's A$65 - 90k and for aircrew O's A$70 -110k at the FSGT-FLT LT bracket, no specific lateral pay scale but seniority does affect flying pay.
Charlie sends

[fergineer]

Charlie,
Have looked on the web site , there is no requirement for FE's. Do you know anything more about if they will look at them in the near future. Married to an Aus so there would not be a problem for her getting home.
Any info would be appreciated.

[Charlie Luncher]

Fer
If you check out the last sentence of the original post:

"They may even consider the odd Air Engineer for Maritime as long as they sign a clause to limit themselves to only one choccy bar per sortie and never smelling of wee, tackling fat chicks is something we understand we will never break you out of! ."
Not all jobs are listed on the site just the high priority jobs, if you have what we need, and there is a slot you are in with a chance. Unemployment levels are low in OZ and we find ourselves in a competitive market.
Charlie sends

[PommieB'stard]

As a recent lateral recruit (cats out the bag, alias blown) they are probabaly but only probabaly, not looking for any more FEs, certainly not on H models. But everything is fluid and things change rapidly.
I know of 1 more definately coming possibly 2.
With the advent of the new "boomy" happening there may well be openings for ex VC10 and Timmy people.

[Phil_R]

How is it possible that they're after aircrew? I thought these roles were always gigangically oversubscribed.

Or is it that they're after poaching trained people so as to avoid the expense of training them?

Phil

[Charlie Luncher]

Dudes/dudettes
There are opportunities for AEOps/WSOps who may be approaching their 12 yr point. All ops will be RADAR and EO as primary then it is up to you to go Nerd Herd or Master of the Dark Arts as your second cat you can even do both if you have the ability. No radios or metal box to look after as we have a chap to do that for us. The night out with Kylie is only after you have passed conversion, PM if you wish more info, we also pay much more than the Kiwis and you get to work with me:{ .
Charlie sends
Master of discretion

[Strato Q]

we also pay much more than the Kiwis and you get to work with me

Charlie - the Kiwis don't sound so bad when you put it like that:ok:

[D-IFF_ident]

My letter of appointment to the RAAF just appeared in my mailbox. Drinks are on me.

:ok:

[BEagle]

Onya, Dave!

[Ginger Beer]

My tuppence worth.....

The taxation of pensions, I believe, is not as straight forward as was first mentioned. Yes it will be taxed however, I understand that if e.g. you've paid 22% at source in the UK and you're paying Income Tax at 40% in Oz, you only then pay the difference i.e. 18% to the Ozzie taxman. Not another 40%. This is called the double taxation rule.

As for FEs jobs. P3 Orions in Adelaide is the only RAAF one recruiting to my knowledge.

Pls feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Ginge

[Charlie Luncher]

Not sure of the finer points of Tax as mentioned I am a young'un - ish and have a very dodgy tax agent but can find out from the grey hairs. AP3Cs(not P3Cs) are pretty much the last stand for the Wingers with the transport fleet being replaced, some established dudes have moved to C17 as loadies or as boom drivers for the new Tanker. The AP3C is still lifed till 2018, did I hear 2020/5 but first pass for MMA P8 P.O.S(not short for poseiden:E) has been approved by Canberra so the writing is on the wall. On the up side Elizabeth does have its share of the larger lady for the a bit of Eng delight.
Still looking for young fresh AEOps(WSOps):ok:.
Charlie Sends

[John Eacott]

Ginger Beer,

Superannuation (pension) taxation in Australia has just received a massive revamp, but the standard tax rate for superannuation is 15%.

As of last year's budget, any self funded superannuation funds become entirely tax free once the benefitiaries turn 60 years old, and are drawing a pension from the fund. That's everything to do with the fund: earnings, interest, payouts, even no Capital Gains Tax: all tax free :ok:

Where UK pensions stand, I'm not sure, but a visit to www.ato.gov.au (http://www.ato.gov.au) may shed some light.

[Ginger Beer]

John,

Thanks for that. It seems like good news? I believe for anyone making the move, it is worth investing a few hundred quid to get advice from the Brit to Oz accountancy advice companies, plenty on aussie move websites. It will no doubt save you thousands in the long run and if nothing else confirm you are doing the right thing financially?

TVM

Ginge

[Toadstool]

Charlie Luncher check your PM pse

[Frostcontrol]

Contrary to what the website says, the RAAF ATC fraternity are no longer recruiting lateral recruits!

[MINself]

Charlie,
There doesn't appear to be any mention of rotary recruiting, is this still the case?
Cheers :ok:

[control snatch]

Probably because the RAAF has no rotary.

[D-IFF_ident]

People went to the ADF a year or so ago to fly rotary - IIRC he posted on here to say goodbye. Maybe he still checks-in occasionally....

[Charlie Luncher]

Min
As mentioned I don't know as those contraptions are flown by pongos and matelots, not lantern jawed dashing aviators like me.:E
Army have the Blackhawk, Kiowa and Tiger with NH90 in the wings, the navy have the Seahawk, Squirrel and the Seasprite if it ever flys.:8
Best advice is email through the website to the other services if you like dirt and do not like women.:ok:
Charlie sends

[OnaBeach]

Mark IX,

I believe that if you arrive after 1 Jul 07 then it is 5 years before spouses are eligible to apply for Citizenship. Good onya for making the move, no regrets about my move.

If you require any further info PM me.

Regards
Ona

[negative SOA]

Maritime in particular is in dire need of more RAF members making the move. The wing now finds themselves dangerously low in experience and corporate knowledge, something only the lateral RAF members can provide. I emplore you to look past the cash and make the move based on your ability to help develop a floundering organisation.

[L J R]

If you dig Adelaide that is..

[negative SOA]

I'm mot sure what you mean... Adelaide is treasury to a mild mannered population, its surrounding velds abound in rich culture and abodes, those from the mother country will be struck by its many similarities.

[cx da cxs]

Adelaide. The RAF retirement village. Don't blame them.

On another note:

Can you think of two words you can get from rearranging the word Navigator?

[MTOW]

Edinburgh, the main RAAF ASW base, is quite close to Elizabeth, which back in the 1950s and 60s was a very big reception camp for British migrants. Many got jobs in the area of the camp and settled in Elizabeth after moving out into mainstream Oz suburbia, making the area for quite some years more English than England. I don't know what it's like today, but back then, it was a case of 'spot the Aussie', and you had to listen long and hard to hear a Strine accent. 99% of the voices you heard were one variety of another of Brit regional accents.

[PommieB'stard]

Your passport is tied into citizenship. Three months to apply from signing up but 6 months from there (approx) for it to come through.
Your spouse will have to go through the normal waiting time and channels, it's just changed. Can't remember if it is 3 or 5 years.
Any kids that you have will be able to apply when you do.
Good luck down here
PB

[Charlie Luncher]

Dude
If you are non resident in UK you elect not to pay income tax you do however have to declare your earnings overseas on your annual tax return to the oz tax man. There are migrant agents that will advise you or it may be useful to contact one of the int banks such as Amex or HSBC for advice. I will cx with one of the grey hairs on the UK Forces pension, there are a couple who are tight enough having spent a time in the Northern Lands to know the best way around it all:8.
Charlie sends

[D-IFF_ident]

On the subject of Tax - should a serviceman be leaving the RAF to move outside of the EC, I understand it is possible to get a tax rebate based on a partial year's service. i.e. if you leave the UK to head to Oz in, say, Sep, then you will only have earned about 1/2 of your projected earnings for the tax year and, therefore, will have paid too much tax thus far.

As for pensions and transfers, I think there's a thread on ARRSE too, and I've yet to figure the best way forward.

[Siggie]

Charlie Luncher has asked me to post on Tax issues. As a mere whippersnapper, he does not yet qualify for her Majesty's recognition of excellent service, the RAF Pension. As posted previously on here, you have a few choices:

1. You can pay the minimum rate of tax in the UK on your pension and the Oz taxman will top up the amount of tax paid on that pension to the rate you would pay in Oz (about 40%, hopefully decreasing to 38% after 1 Jul 08).

2. You can elect to get your pension paid tax free in the UK (Inland revenue form 85 - I think!) and pay the whole amount in one go to the OZ taxman.

3. You don't declare it and hope that the OZ taxman won't notice an ex RAF type of XX years service arriving without a pension. (Absolutely no chance of that)

Another ex pat was interested in the scenario of having all of his pension paid into an offshore bank account and just leaving it there. He was very disappointed to learn, from the Australian Tax Office, that even if this money was never accessed, it was still classed as a 2nd income and therefore taxable at the previously proscribed rate.

It may be sunny over here, but Taxmen are Taxmen the world over, you won't escape paying what's owed to them - you would, however, lose your job if you got caught fiddling the system.

All of the tax advisors (I use H&R Block, a cheap and quick multi-office franchise) are conversant with the 2nd Income rates of tax and sorting it all out is not a problem.

[Ogre]

There must be something good about the jobs, when I moved over here I met up with an ex colleague who had been at Kinloss the same time as me. 6 weeks later he handed in his resignation, saying he was joining the RAAF in the same rank and trade as the left the RAF. No problems, just back in a blue suit Monday morning.

I must say though, it is not something I would contemplate. I like the fact I get to chose what I wear to work every day........

Ogre

[Charlie Luncher]

Pick up 3 more to maritime this month and we still have room for more, weather is even like an English summer/scottish heatwave 17c and rainy:eek:.
Charlie sends

[Hydraulic Palm Tree]

I made the jump to the Oz Army in Jan. Surprised more RAF RW pilots haven't jumped ship; come on in, the water is lovely and warm.

HPT

PS. Who is the CH47 QHI that is about to move over?

[PNVS]

I have also made the jump this year. As HPT confirmed the water is lovely and boy do we have room for more!

:ok:

[propfails2FX]

How's 2 FTS looking on QFI's? Thinking of making the lateral jump that way if they're still hiring.

[Charlie Luncher]

Prop
We have lost a few QFIs due to their ROSO ending and apparently they have had enough of four floored establishments, dodgy kebabs/rotis/satay cat, hangovers from hell and proper flying. So they have moved on to Fabian/Julian, kumquat and wheat grass shakes and flying by airoutes and george.
The main homes for QFIs are 2FTS in Perth/CFS at Sale and BFTS at Tamworth yee Har, being the military the choice is not always yours there are also slots within the FEGs(read Groups). Any specialist advice I can pass on your questions for you, the one about if my bum looks big in this flying suit, well buy a mirror:ok:.
Any further help just ask :E
Charlie sends

[caligula]

Charlie

Any thoughts on FJ pilot - front line rather than QFI?

Cheers

[Beartrap]

Thee was some duff info provided earlier in this thread about taxation of pensions in Oz. Yes, pensions and lump sums taken after age 60 are tax free, but only if they come from a 'fully funded' scheme. By fully funded it means the individual contributed all the money to a fund that then invested it. RAF pensions are not - at least mine - is not from a fully funded source and I therefore will pay tax on it, at least I will if I ever reach the age of 60!There is some offset that reduces the amount of tax.MSBS, the RAAF pension scheme has two elements; the one (the employer benefit) that produces a pension as aopposed to a lump sum, is not fully funded and will also attract some tax.But the beer is cold, the red wine outstanding and petrol is less than 70p a litre!

[Charlie Luncher]

Remusters and recruitment locally are in progress so they should have an idea of slots available for Lateral recruits:

Overseas Applicants | Defence Jobs (http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitmentCentre/overseasApplicants/default.aspx)

From a insider's point of view, of sorts, experienced Aircrew of all makes are always considered for all fleets. FAA is hurting due to Seasprite and are flush:ooh: but the navy is looking for filthy submariners most likely to be based in Perth. Ground trades are in demand as well. Contact recruitment to see if your trade is required as they have the quotas.
I can answer, or at least find a someone who can, the general stuff about Oz and life over here in the colonies
Charlie sends

[GT521970]

There is heresay that the tap may be turned off for a bit, heresay at the moment but it is being bandied about ..

[Charlie Luncher]

When people are bored they gossip especially the ones that feel threatened, they even put out slanderous comments about Choccy bars, notice you did not comment on the larger ladies:eek::hmm:.
Every offer is made on a case by case basis, Navy is short of sailors especially privateers not sure on the Army but can find out from our tame POHM Pongo.
Charlie sends
from a chilly 34c