Byrna
4th Feb 2007, 22:08
Hello everyone,
Through my experience with flight simulation and the STAR charts for Schipol airport (EHAM/AMS) I have learned that within the 30NM radius of SPL VOR, during daytime approaches, ATC vectors the aircraft to their ILS intercept points and RNAV navigation is not used, except at night (after about 22:00 /21:00 UTC winter/summer).
Apparently, the reason being, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that with vectoring, more planes can be packed into the same airspace than if RNAV is used during approaches.
My question is how does vectoring create more planes in the same space and still keep a safety margin which allows for human error by the pilot (or ATC) or other planes veering off course on such a busy airport with 6 runways and so much traffic? I guess for someone who has only seen documentaries of how ATC and pilots really fly in real life, I was a bit overwhelmed about how manual vectoring can be done at such a busy airport. I wonder if any real-life ATCs out there can comment on this? And input from pilots regarding how they "train" or prepare for their first flight into Amsterdam Schipol would be much appreciated.
I have actually flown to Schipol back in the 80's and 90's in real life and find to be a spectacularly well-organized and clean airport but having flown in my flight simulation (again using FAA charts) into busy airports with multiple parallel runways like Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson (KATL) or Los Angeles LAX, it must be quite a change to fly into an equally busy airport like EHAM but with manual vectoring and non-parallel runways. Though, I also know that approaches (or departures) are simultaneous on 1,2 and maybe even 3 parallel runways only depending on peak periods, at Schipol, and not all runways are in use (obviously).
Any input and comment would be much appreciated.
John
Through my experience with flight simulation and the STAR charts for Schipol airport (EHAM/AMS) I have learned that within the 30NM radius of SPL VOR, during daytime approaches, ATC vectors the aircraft to their ILS intercept points and RNAV navigation is not used, except at night (after about 22:00 /21:00 UTC winter/summer).
Apparently, the reason being, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that with vectoring, more planes can be packed into the same airspace than if RNAV is used during approaches.
My question is how does vectoring create more planes in the same space and still keep a safety margin which allows for human error by the pilot (or ATC) or other planes veering off course on such a busy airport with 6 runways and so much traffic? I guess for someone who has only seen documentaries of how ATC and pilots really fly in real life, I was a bit overwhelmed about how manual vectoring can be done at such a busy airport. I wonder if any real-life ATCs out there can comment on this? And input from pilots regarding how they "train" or prepare for their first flight into Amsterdam Schipol would be much appreciated.
I have actually flown to Schipol back in the 80's and 90's in real life and find to be a spectacularly well-organized and clean airport but having flown in my flight simulation (again using FAA charts) into busy airports with multiple parallel runways like Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson (KATL) or Los Angeles LAX, it must be quite a change to fly into an equally busy airport like EHAM but with manual vectoring and non-parallel runways. Though, I also know that approaches (or departures) are simultaneous on 1,2 and maybe even 3 parallel runways only depending on peak periods, at Schipol, and not all runways are in use (obviously).
Any input and comment would be much appreciated.
John