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106027
1st January 2007, 06:01
Best wishes!
Landing at CDG the evening on Dec 29th, we observed a Dash 8-400 of Flybe, surrounded by a number of police and fire brigade vehicles. Afterwards, the aircraft was moved close to 27L and still accompanied by a lot of blue flashing lights. Does anyone know any details? Whatever, I hope it has all ended without too much fuss for everyone.



AEUENG
1st January 2007, 18:57
Allegedly, aircraft took a wrong turn down a taxiway and then realised and subsequently tried turning round and unfortunately ended up partially on the grass.

121,9_za
1st January 2007, 19:35
I'm not surprised - CDG makes for interesting taxiing. Hope all okay in the end, best wishes

Chuck Ellsworth
1st January 2007, 19:58
Are there still lots of deaf Rabbits hanging around the taxi ways? :E

GBALU53
2nd January 2007, 12:08
It has always been a night mare.

Twenty five years ago operating in there you would be cleared around the one way system the wrong way so maybe nothing has changed much could it be a language barrier?

Midland 331
2nd January 2007, 13:58
Alarming amounts of FOD.

Ground staff stuffing what look like sawn up garden fence posts under wheels as makeshift chocks at the remote stands.

And plenty of foxes.

But does the place sieze up during LVP?

"331"

Whispering Giant
4th January 2007, 18:36
Spoke to the crew involved in this incident and it transpires that it was the fault of the French ATC and ground crew.
CDG ATC gave the crew taxi instructions to go down one taxiway but when the a/c reach the point the red light's were on - barring the taxiway off to all traffic. The crew spoke to ATC and requested that a tug come to push them back down the taxi way but ATC said no we will send a marshaller down and marshall you around which the crew were rather concerned about as they could see how narrow the taxi way was.
The marshaller dully appeared and started to marshall them to turn round but the crew could see that they were too near the edge of the taxiway and so stopped the aircraft even though the marshaller was still instructing them to turn. The Captain then shut down both engines and got out to have a look and to check the clearance; when he got out he could see that one of the main wheels was allready off the taxiway and on the grass but the marshaller could not see what was wrong with this!!!

RAFAT
15th January 2007, 04:45
WG - I know you say you spoke to the crew, and I'm sorry to contradict, but I'm not really buying that story. If the Captain stopped the aircraft because he suspected the nosewheels were about to depart the hard stuff, the mainwheels would still be in the middle of the taxiway. For one of the mainwheels to be off the taxiway the nosewheels would have already completed the turn safely.

We can, and have, reverse taxied the 400s in the past you know. Why was this not considered?

Tyreplug
15th January 2007, 07:41
I think you will find that reverse was used without success.

keep em flying
15th January 2007, 10:20
Similair scenario at MAN last week when a Q400 L/H main wheels departed the taxiway, depending on the taxiway layout it is possible to get the the nosewheels departing the hard stuff "after" the mains have done so, i know, i was there!!!

RAFAT
16th January 2007, 17:01
keep em flying - I agree that could happen, indeed cutting a corner on a narrow taxiway could cause the mains to exit the hard stuff before the nosewheels. What I'm assuming in my post above is that the manoeuvre was a U-turn on a straight taxiway.

Bail out
16th January 2007, 17:25
CDG...

What a nightmare.

Last year landed with 300m RVR on my first visit... the approach was the easypart.

Finding the stand was the issue... even the locals had problems.

Give me ORY anytime... if in doubt stop and ask.

B