View Full Version : agusta 119 v bell 407
Choppersquad
6th Dec 2006, 21:33
gents
can you give me the good and bad points of the two machines eg
running costs
parts
speed
price
power
just starting to look at buying one of the two so any help would be good ,
thanks
cs
Perro Rojo
6th Dec 2006, 22:01
There can't be that much difference between one toy helicopter and the other.
I was talking to a bunch of guys at the Dubai Helishow just the other day who have flown the 407, the 119 and the B2 - they said that that each machine had its pros and cons. However, you cannot fly the 119 without its SCAS, which may be a level of complexity you don't wish for.
The problems with support are otherwise well known. My choice would be Bell, out of those three, for that reason. I have some time on the 407 and I like it very much. The Mark 2 is any ship after serial no 500 ;) JB in Canada introduced the 119 there and report favourable customer response.
Phil
Choppersquad
8th Dec 2006, 18:05
thanks paco
bell parts are easy to get looks like the machine to look at is the 407.
choppersquad
Savoia
22nd May 2011, 11:58
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Are there any additional comments on the comparison between the A119 and B407 - AW technical support aside?
No first hand experience with the 119, but been flying a 407 for awhile. Smooth, quiet (for a helicopter), fast, reliable. Superb training at Bell Training Academy if you are willing to make the trip. My only complaint with the 407 is limited leg and shoulder room in the front seats for pilots 6 ft or taller.
Was at Bell Training Academy recently where there were "students" who fly the 119 daily in their jobs.. They said the vibration levels are high and there is no FADEC. They werent thrilled with the 119. Based on my recollection of published info, the 119 is substantially more expensive ( new helicopters, similarly equipped), however list prices may be different from real prices.
9Aplus
22nd May 2011, 15:33
Let me see :*
200 kg more on sling in AW119 favor
1 seat more in AW 119 favor
few HP more in AW 119 favor
more than few kts more on cruise in AW favor
at last 1 h more endurance in AW119 favor
That all will cost you at last 700.000 USD more in AW favor
And you can not find parts behind next corner, for sure..... :E