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shandyman
26th Nov 2006, 12:59
"Troops will get a 5,500 pound golden handcuff bonus to stop them leaving . . . .Marines will be the first to benefit followed by nurses and aircrew" Like I said, it's it the News of the World, which I was forced to read, so it must be true, obviously. Comments . . . .

maximo ping
26th Nov 2006, 13:08
Oooh lovely...how long is this generous offer meant to keepme in for?

shandyman
26th Nov 2006, 14:08
Two years, if you believe it !! After tax, probably about 4 and a bit of her majesty's finest sterling.

Biggus
26th Nov 2006, 14:38
Anita

There will be lot's of takers - all those who were already planning to stay in for the next two years anyway!!

As for those already planning to leave ............

stickmonkeytamer
26th Nov 2006, 15:24
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1674012006

The News of the World has now added fuel to the rumour that it gets it's stories by surfing the internet and waiting for it's readers to forget that the news may have already been reported a few weeks ago... Not quite exclusive up-to-the-minute reporting...

SMT

Melchett01
26th Nov 2006, 18:11
Hmm well lets say I won't be holding my breath for any RFIs anytime soon.
Having had a look on the RAF Careers website in the job search section, going to the officer job search, every single job listed there is annotated as 'urgently needed'. What are the odds on all the various officer jobs getting an RFI then? I think the phrase is "you have 2 hopes ......" But if all the branches are in the same parlous state, who and how would they decide which branches got the FRIs (aircrew aside)? Would they offer them on a sliding scale for different branches?
Unfortunately I think we are getting to the stage that what ever RFI is offered will only be a short term solution. An awful lot of people I know have said that the MOD couldn't afford the level of RFI that would be required to keep them in. As for me, if it's offered (unlikely) I'll take it - after all they have me by the pension short and curlies, so why not take free money?:ok:

Now a 'J' Bloke!!
26th Nov 2006, 19:14
Another FRI for two years return of service.....bring it on.:p

If they do this every two years...I might just buy that shiny new motor!!!:ok:

Later
NAJB:cool:

airborne_artist
26th Nov 2006, 19:33
Melchett - which careers site are you looking at? The only "Urgently needed" officer roles I could see were:

* Administrative Officer
* Air Traffic Control Officer
* Dental Officer
* Engineer Officer

Melchett01
26th Nov 2006, 20:49
PN

It was in the search jobs section, officer category. It runs through 20 jobs across all branches.

Believe the link is http://www.rafcareers.com/jobs/searchjobs.cfm?searchType4=rank&rank=Officers&subbut4=Go

Either way, I'd be surprised if there was an RAF-wide FRI, but it doesn't make pretty reading to see so many jobs flagged as urgently needed. I guess it's a sign of being stretched but not overstretched! Yes they are urgently needed ..... now, not in 2-5 yrs when the recruiting cycle has churned someone out of professional trg

buoy15
27th Nov 2006, 03:20
Melchett
From your posts, I gather you are not in the FRI plot, you are not aircrew and you are are trapped in the 'stay for the the pension' syndrome
If you are not 'urgently needed', what trade are you - are you a Branch Officer bluntie, serving loyaly but not just for the money?

TheHogwartsBEngO
27th Nov 2006, 07:51
Melchett - which careers site are you looking at? The only "Urgently needed" officer roles I could see were:

* Administrative Officer
* Air Traffic Control Officer
* Dental Officer
* Engineer Officer

Doesn't that really grip your $hite. C'mon chaps, you must know at least a few BEngOs who, like me, have done their 6 year SSC and are forced to leave, despite wanting to remain in the Air Force they love - all because OASC in their wisdom played a lottery for SSCs and PCs for ground branches. Having to leave on a SSC was bad enough, seeing some of the incompetent gits with PCs staying in was harder, learning that the only JO Eng's with SSCs getting offered extensions have bumpy jumpers makes you suspicious but to then learn that the recruiters are still having the gall to say we are desperate for engineers... :ugh:


really made my monday that. Civvy st. bah, 6 grand pay-cut and treated like a mushroom.

The grass is not always greener - remember that if you have of choice of jumping ship or not.


rant off.

Melchett01
27th Nov 2006, 17:19
Melchett From your posts, I gather you are not in the FRI plot, you are not aircrew and you are are trapped in the 'stay for the the pension' syndrome If you are not 'urgently needed', what trade are you - are you a Branch Officer bluntie, serving loyaly but not just for the money?
Oh go on then Buoy, I'll bite - I've got nothing better to do for the next 15 minutes before dinner is finished being cremated.

I understand why the FRIs to date have been targeted towards pilots and the odd bit of talking freight that can string a sentence together. However, only the most obtuse would fail to realise that retention is now a problem across the RAF as a whole and as such it may be time to extend the FRIs to other branches. Without the 'blunties' you describe, your ac isn't going anywhere, so when they all disappear, I hope you're good at changing engines.

Oh and just in case you are one of the few - that is one the exceptionally obtuse few - a warning; the RAF in 20+ yrs will belong to blunties and 13 yd old Playstation professionals. As long as the bean counters have their way, crew in the cockpits will be phased out in favour of a datalink and a box of servos..... you won't always need aircrew to project air power.

And by the way, I never said what I did - how do you know my job isn't on the list of 'urgently needed'? Now run along there's a good chap and fetch my Big Mac - and yes I will have fries with it:E

mayorofgander
27th Nov 2006, 18:04
If this latest FRI goes ahead, it will be;

aimed at the wrong people...
be too little for some....
be too much for some..ergo a waste!!
not wide ranging enough...
won't change opinion...
wrong...due to JPA
late...due to JPA
just a rumour???

and we will pay tax on it too rendering it only 60 or 75% worth!!!

MOG

The Rocket
27th Nov 2006, 21:18
If this latest FRI goes ahead, it will be;

aimed at the wrong people...


And who exactly do you feel it should be aimed at mayorofgander?

mayorofgander
27th Nov 2006, 21:41
And who exactly do you feel it should be aimed at mayorofgander?

Probably not me....but my trade is not fully manned though!!!
(but then again, is any these days???)

What about yourself then???

MOG

EnnArr
27th Nov 2006, 22:52
Have been hearing rumours around the bazaars that an FRI 3 is in the offing.....targetted at Sqn Ldr level of Aircrew and amounting to £100,000 (after tax!) for 5 years return of service.

Anyone one else heard that one?

Seems a little devisive and not too well targetted, although apparently many people are leaving as Sqn Ldrs at their 38/16 point and not loyally signing on to 55, so we are running short of SO2's - and the higher powers are surprised at that?

Morons.....:*

Lafyar Cokov
27th Nov 2006, 22:58
They could always promote some complete idiots to SO2 then they needn't worry about that line dying out..............