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ContractFlyGal
7th Nov 2006, 17:02
What would you do if a passenger was ready Playboy on your flight? Hypothetical, no one has complained, but you saw the magazine while you ewre walking through the cabin.

tiggerific_69
7th Nov 2006, 17:12
unless a lot of people have complained about it,leave them to it.i dont think restrictions on reading material have been introduced since the restrictions on liquids have been relaxed....think how embarassed the pax would be if you did ask them to stop reading the magazine,not nice,and could possibly result in a complaint!

LRdriver II
7th Nov 2006, 17:18
who cares..
Are you perchance an uptight/prudish american? :E Playboy has alot of articles in it and as long as he/she isnt sticking the centerfold under everybodies noses then whats the problem?.. 'ere in 'urope, ve are more liberal oui?

Craggenmore
7th Nov 2006, 17:18
We had someone reading the Swiss equivalent of Playboy yesterday. They left it behind and the C/C just passed it on to the F/D to peruse! No harm done.

tiggerific_69
7th Nov 2006, 17:23
exactly what we would do! :ok:

ContractFlyGal
7th Nov 2006, 17:38
Sorry, I too would leave the passenger alone. I found a thread about this topic on flightattendants.org. The general consensus there is that they would have the guy put it away. My thinking is that it is not my business what they are reading. And you guys are right, for the most part American f/a's are prudes.....not me!

Gatwick07
7th Nov 2006, 19:24
If it doesn't offend anyone, leave them to it! If they leave it behind, all the better! ;)

flyblue
7th Nov 2006, 19:33
Playboy? What's wrong with Playboy? :O Some gals in there have more clothes on than in some movies or ads on the telly!

cckat
7th Nov 2006, 19:49
The flights I used to crew on had a number of miners, which meant a lot of material akin to that, they'd forever be leaving it behind, us girls would get to have a great laugh over some of the pictures!!!

SkySista
8th Nov 2006, 04:56
It depends on the other pax. If they're all the type that wouldn't care, I don't usually bother them. If there's ladies or (especially) kiddies around, I might ask them (quietly) if they could be discreet (if it's just a men's mag, i.e. models in bikins etc... if it's naked chicks and there's kids around, I usually ask them to read something else, offer a paper etc...

If it was a hardcore porno, or somehting that I personally found offensive and couldn't ignore, I'd ask them to put it away. (Hasn't happened yet) Most of the men's mags are pretty harmless; as Flyblue says there's more nudity on tele these days... but it does depend on the fellow pax and their reactions. If someone complained then I'd definitely do something about it.

I do have to disagree with My thinking is that it is not my business what they are reading.

The aircraft is my workplace, I'm in charge of it (along with my colleagues), so it IS my business! I have the right to ask someone to put away their 'mags' if they've offended someone (or me!! :E) - just the same as you would ask a pax who was swearing or being obnoxious to tone down their behavior. I'd do the same thing if someone was watching a blue DVD or somehting innappropriate for the cabin. I realise there's a thin line here and possibly can be too 'politically correct' but I believe this type of thing should be judged on a case-by-case basis, depending on your pax, your crew and the particular situation on a given day

My 2c!! :}

GgW
8th Nov 2006, 09:16
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=169762&highlight=nationwide

This happend in South Africa in April 2005.

petitfromage
8th Nov 2006, 09:18
Leaping far ahead....
On my way down to the crew rest I noticed a couple having sex in their window/aisle seat. Whilst not loud/vocal by any means they didnt realise that the blankets over their heads left them exposed below the waist from time to time.
It was a late night flight (4-5am'ish) and the only other people aware of the couples antics were 5-6 Chinese men quietly enjoying a beer and a show from their nearby seats.
In short no one was being offended.

I decided to stay as it was patently obvious the display was reaching its finale.
Only a few seconds later the young lady (on top) took a peek from her blanket and, unsurprisingly, was quite shocked to see a pilot only 2-3ft away (applauding slowly at the latest inflight entertainment!) :D

End result:
No one was offended, 2 randy Dutchies left slightly red faced.
My point is, its all about time and place. You cannot legislate for all situations. Commonsense needs to be applied by passengers and crew alike.
Bear in mind that Playboy, particularly the Black Edition is banned in many countries.

waveydavey
8th Nov 2006, 09:50
In the early nineties I was on an internal flight in the USA, can't remember which airline. The cabin crew offered magazines and newspapers to passangers, including Playboy.
I was suprised to see that in the selection of magazines I was offered....I took a newspaper - would have been too embarrassed to take Playboy even if I had wanted to!

issi noho
8th Nov 2006, 09:54
I decided to stay.
Only a few seconds later the young lady (on top) took a peek from her blanket and, unsurprisingly, was quite shocked to see a pilot only 2-3ft away.



Not sure if she was shocked that you were a pilot, more likely it was the drool and sleazy letch sweaty face that put her off her stroke;)

walk on by, live and let live.

with regard to Playboy, leaving him to continue 'reading' says more about the pax than it does about the crew unless anybody else is offended. There is a tiny possibility that he was the editor at work but more likely a weirdo without a chat up line hoping to invoke a response. I expect he had his pizza delivery boy costume in his bag for the hotel that night.

bring back romance, challenge and anticipation.

panda-k-bear
8th Nov 2006, 12:18
Let me admit to being a weirdo, then. I actually do subscribe to Playboy. Shall I pretend it's for the articles? Could do - in fact some of them are very good and it is even a showcase for literature (who knew that this is where James Bond first appeared, for example. Or that Stephen King writes short stories in there from time to time? The political aspect is also interesting. Oh and there are some nudie ladies in there too).

But I would never dream of reading it on an aircraft! Or anywhere else public for that matter.

I wouldn't want somebody to read it in my working environment so I wouldn't expect cc to want it in theirs either - it simply isn't fair. As you can see, I'm not a prude but there is a time and a place for everything, surely? And, in my opinion, on an aircraft is just not the place.

dikkes
10th Nov 2006, 06:36
I agree, if it is not offending any-one let him be.
In a similar vein, I once had crew report to me that a pax was watching porn on his laptop! I made my way down to his seat to see what the fuss was all about. It was a B744, so I was able to approach him from behind and observe his actions, he was seated on the aisle. After a short while I introduced myself to him and asked if was a medical practioner. He confirmed he was a plastic surgeon! I told him about the complaint and we had a good cackle, he was just arranging his slides of before and after photos on his new computer! After I explained the situation to the crew member she also had a good giggle with the pax!

panda-k-bear
10th Nov 2006, 14:42
Guess I won't be so careful in future, then, and will take it on board with me!

Algy
10th Nov 2006, 15:15
Hard to criticise if your colleagues are doing this! (http://shortlinks.co.uk/l6)

panda-k-bear
10th Nov 2006, 17:13
Algy, am I going to find those pictures in my copy of Flight next week?! :E

Panther06
10th Nov 2006, 18:06
What would you do if a passenger was ready Playboy on your flight? Hypothetical, no one has complained, but you saw the magazine while you ewre walking through the cabin.

Ask them if they would mind if I looked at it for awhile.

tart1
10th Nov 2006, 21:19
What about Playgirl???? :E


(I also only read it for the articles of course!!!!!!!)

Loki
10th Nov 2006, 21:42
I find all this hard to believe.

What if I was reading "Mein Kampf" ? Interesting thought experiment there....it`s got no pictures, as far as I`m aware. If it was spotted whilst on board an El Al flight, I might be in for a rough trip (unlikely, as my Palestinian lapel badge wouldn`t get me past check in). What about any other airline whose nosy CC saw it?

I`d more likely be reading International Marxist Review, or Das Kapital....would that get me into trouble? Unbelievable!

Of course if I was seen reading an Arab newspaper (once I`d worked out which way up to hold it), all hell would no doubt break loose (but is that fair/ reasonable?)

Juud
10th Nov 2006, 22:38
I guess I'm the odd one out here.

Sure there's a lot of naked flesh on the tv, and of course Playboy is 'in good taste'. But when it comes to watching tv or buying a porn mag, I have a choice.
A choice I do not have when, to serve the chap in 2A, I have to reach across the chap in 2B 'reading' Hustler. Or watching some Russian hard core on his DVD player.

It all depends on the demeanour of the passenger in question, but there have been a few times where I've felt seriously uncomfortable.
Personally I do not think passengers' right extend to making serving staff feel that way. But again, that's only my opinion.

I've only once spoken up, and that's when one of my younger FAs was loath to go into the cabin because of a group of male pax who kept ringing the call bell and who went out of their way to make sure she got an eyefull of wide open vulva every time she served them something.
I didn't ask, but calmly informed them that they were now putting away their magazines and their DVD-player. Their English wasn't that hot, but they reacted with alacrity & sheepy looks and were sweet as sugar the rest of the flight.

The other FAs then fessed up that it had bothered all of them. Months later my boss showed me a letter the crew had written; the fact that the matter had been dealt with firmly but without fuss had made them feel 'looked after by the company', and it had meant a lot to them.

Motivation comes from the strangest incidents. ;)

TightSlot
10th Nov 2006, 22:42
[COLOR=darkorchid]Motivation comes from the strangest incidents. ;)

... And from the very best FA's, of course - well done!

petitfromage
18th Nov 2006, 12:30
Another case where events surpassing a crew members personal comfort zone creates conflict..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061117/ap_on_re_us/breast_feeding_passenger

ShesGreatintheGalley
19th Nov 2006, 02:27
What if I was reading "Mein Kampf" ? Interesting thought experiment there....it`s got no pictures, as far as I`m aware. If it was spotted whilst on board an El Al flight, I might be in for a rough trip (unlikely, as my Palestinian lapel badge wouldn`t get me past check in). What about any other airline whose nosy CC saw it?


i have read this onboard, as crew. received only one comment from a passenger who wandered into the galley wanting to have a conversation as i was on my break. i think i got a bigger reaction from the crew.

i have no prob with mens magazines.. (infact, i advocate them over cleo and cosmo and those other crappy female directed magazines that bend girls' minds into thinking that they should all be anorexic thin to get a boyfriend.
I have however asked a passenger to put away a porn magazine, this featured naked ladies with errhum, 'objects' and male companions. i advised him that perhaps a daytime flight wasnt the best place to be reading such material as it was in full view from the aisle. he huffed at me and put it in his bag.
i do not care what people read, and pics of girls in bikinis are so commonplace nowdays that there is nothing wrong with it. However, when it goes past the 'art' stage and into the 'porn' stage, thats when it becomes inappropriate.
17th century paintings of naked cherubs are ok. Hell, the Karma Sutra paintings are okay, but when they are photographed purely for the porn aspect, and stand out a great deal, thats when its not okay on my plane.

smile high
19th Nov 2006, 02:46
aw come on guys as long as no one is offended....certainly not me!!!!..... and their are no little people around to see who cares! personally if it was naked good looking men in the mag i would be reading over the pax shoulder!!! seriously though....i think u have to look at it on an inividual level....if pax is behaving oddly then u may want to ask them nicely to put mag away but generally i dont see a problem...its healthy!!!! :O