Manchester Airport

[sniper9652]

Hi all, Just watched this old bird (ZS-OSI) depart 24L, original engines, no hushkits! absolutely fantastic! apparently positioned in from Lynham and out to Portugal?

Regards, Steve :E

[Phileas Fogg]

Where is Lynham and where is 24L ???

[GOLF-INDIA BRAVO]

Well 24L is at Manchester and a certain DC8 did arrive and I would guess at Lyneham
Did the DC8 go to Portugal or Port of Spain as I am sure I read somewhere it was doing

G-I-B

[BOAC]

PF - it is a military (transport) airfield west of London. But that's not important right now.............. :)

[ALLDAYDELI]

yep, did a dangerous goods charter to Port of Spain.

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

yep, did a dangerous goods charter to Port of Spain.

And techstopped at LPAZ I believe, outbound. - Due back in to Brize early tomorrow.

Any idea what it was carrying?

[hobie]

Is Lyneham still going to close (by 2012) ? ...... :confused:

[Dan Air 87]

Must be carrying dangerous goods for the Cricket world cup! Joking aside, it would be great to see a DC8 into LGW again...nice smoking trail as well. Hope you lucky sods in MAN enjoyed the sound...

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

Must be carrying dangerous goods for the Cricket world cup! Joking aside, it would be great to see a DC8 into LGW again...nice smoking trail as well. Hope you lucky sods in MAN enjoyed the sound...


Flintoff and Pietersen are our dangerous goods!

[noflybywire]

Those were the glory days at LGW but nothing better then a Spantax CV990,

[GOLF-INDIA BRAVO]

Yes a nice clear day no wind and on departure you used to be able to follow them out on 06 and past Congleton and the see as they continued the climb towards Honiley
G-I-B

[Banzai Eagle]

Bet the NIMBYs would love that, clapped out DC8 carrying dangerous goods.
Recipe for disaster

[BRISTOLRE]

AWR - I know but cannot tell you!

[sniper9652]

Those were the glory days at LGW but nothing better then a Spantax CV990,

I used to see these a/craft a lot at MAN in the early 80's, superb :E

[sniper9652]

Check this site for info on the DC-8 and others!

http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk/ringway.htm

Regards, Steve

[WHBM]

Hi all, Just watched this old bird (ZS-OSI) depart 24L, original engines, no hushkits!
Think you'll find it has hush kits, aircraft without were banned from European airspace a long time ago. And this one has been operating through various European points quite happily in recent years.

Agree about the smoke trail. Saw one (maybe the same one) leave Newcastle one clear evening a couple of years ago, could follow it for ages. Very occasionally (about once every couple of months) Pulkovo still substitute a Tu154 at Heathrow for their 737. Same effect.

[sniper9652]

Think you'll find it has hush kits, aircraft without were banned from European airspace a long time ago. And this one has been operating through various European points quite happily in recent years.

Agree about the smoke trail. Saw one (maybe the same one) leave Newcastle one clear evening a couple of years ago, could follow it for ages. Very occasionally (about once every couple of months) Pulkovo still substitute a Tu154 at Heathrow for their 737. Same effect.

Yes, sorry you are correct it did have hushkits fitted. You would'nt think so though by the amount of DB's she produced!! :E

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

DC-10F Supposedly nightstopping at MAN tonight and out around 10.00LT on Wed.

Any idea what she's moving in or out and where from/to?

[Thunderbird 3]

Banzai Eagle please be assured AIA do not fly clapped out a/c.
Also any DGR carried by the airline is packed and stowed according to ICAO & IATA regulations.
Unless of course you no better !.

[Wycombe]

....their loadies being good old ex-RAF types, one would hope that would be the case? :ok:

[steve platt]

it landed last night and it was carrying more dangerous goods to the port of spain same as the dc8 carried on sunday. reg of the dc10 was n605gc operated by gemini air cargo.

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

it landed last night and it was carrying more dangerous goods to the port of spain same as the dc8 carried on sunday. reg of the dc10 was n605gc operated by gemini air cargo.


Thought the flights might be related - though I noticed the GCO flight was flying to San Juan (I think).

Still interested to know what the cargo is.

Dangerous goods don't take too many forms in general.

[on time departure]

could be bottles of water :rolleyes:

[b747 flightboy]

Saw a KLM 744 on Weds in Manchester. Just wondered if anyone had any info, divert? or is it a regular thing and have been walking round with blinkers on.
Cheers

[SM82]

Was a divert flight was en-route to AMS i would assume either a Medical emergency or tech fault

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

Saw a KLM 744 on Weds in Manchester. Just wondered if anyone had any info, divert? or is it a regular thing and have been walking round with blinkers on.
Cheers


Was flying from AMS to YYZ.

Word is that it diverted to MAN to have it's toilets systems emptied and then topped up with water as it wasn't done at AMS and they only realised after take off. Hence it only being on the ground for 40 minutes.

[future captain]

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=249846

Bit more info.

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

Maybe it was just me being dozey, but I saw a dark grey Herc touch down at MAN just after 1pm today but could see no record of a flight plan to MAN, or to any of the usual airports from which they sometime divert (BRZ, LBA, LPL etc).

It was followed by an RAF L1011 about 15 minutes later, but it was showing that he had come in from Canada.

Wasn't sure if they were related or not, and was the reason for the visits was.

Thanks.

[Stretchwell]

Diversion due to thick fog at Lyneham and Brize?

[chiglet]

Herc was a div, TriStar was planned
watp,iktch

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

Just seen a QF 744 land at MAN.

Presume it's been chartered to bring Chelsea fans to the big match?

And if that's the case, being a VH reg, would it have to have been chartered through a BA sub or had to get traffic rights to operate internally in the UK.

[Ringwayman]

Presume it's been chartered to bring Chelsea fans to the big match?

It's QFA 29, a Heathrow diversion and is doing a fuel stop.

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

It's QFA 29, a Heathrow diversion and is doing a fuel stop.

Thanks - presuming something was happening on the ground at LHR that meant it would take longer than 35 minutes to put down.

Sure was busing at MAN yesterday with exec aircraft.

Just a shame that the private 767 didn't make an appearance.

[Jodel Hugger]

Sure was busing at MAN yesterday with exec aircraft.


I heard a Beglian registered helicopter flying near Manchester yesterday OO- something or other - any one know what that was please and what it was doing?:confused:

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

Only OO- registered a/c into MAN yesterday was a Lear 45, and only helis were G-, EI- or N- registered which came in for the match I think.

Can only assume it didn't come into MAN and was just overflying - unless it went into Barton?

[Jodel Hugger]

Can only assume it didn't come into MAN and was just overflying - unless it went into Barton?

Found out it was going in to Barton!! OO-NHV which is a Dauphan chopper. Bit weird because it was dark :ooh:

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

Pretty rare - Barton normally doesn't accept helis after dark as I understand it.

That heli is used as a North Sea emergency rescue machine, as well as a rig staff transporter, so it may have been on offical business.

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

I saw a Malaysia Airlines 777 came into MAN a little before 3pm this afternoon.

Couldn't see a flight plan into MAN, so assume it's a fuel/weather diversion from LHR???

[Curious Pax]

It was 9M-MRE operating PK701. PIA have leased it till February due to 747 unservceability I believe.

[wiccan]

Pretty rare - Barton normally doesn't accept helis after dark as I understand it.
So no police heliocopeter movements after sunset then :E
bb

[tyler_durden]

Barton handle a lot of late helicopter movements during the winter, mainly during football matches.
Last night there was a bright purple sea king in and obviously the police heli is busy all night long :bored:

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

So no police heliocopeter movements after sunset then :E
bb


Well obviously there is the Police Chopper, but I thought commercial flights struggled to get permission to get in there - certainly I was told that by an operator recently.

Obviously there is no ILS to aid landings either.

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

It was 9M-MRE operating PK701. PIA have leased it till February due to 747 unservceability I believe.


Thanks - I did see a PIA flight number arriving at that time, but couldn't see that it was a 9M- reg.

I presume this increases their capacity a bit on their usual routes as I know the A310 has been flying into MAN a bit.
It would be nice to get the 747s fit to fly again soon.

[chiglet]

Obviously there is no ILS to aid landings either. Neither has Welspool, Stapleford, Gamstonand a lot of other "larger" aiports than Barton with a LOT more movements :ok:
watp,iktch

[Squadgy]

I thought commercial flights struggled to get permission to get in there
Hello. Barton will open for commercial helicopter operations 'out of hours'. Full details here (http://www.bartonaerodrome.co.uk/ops_extensions.asp) :ok:

[The AvgasDinosaur]

VIP S-61 at Barton pictures by Paul Tomlin here
http://www.edendale.co.uk/ANW/BTN.HG23.htm
Hope it helps
Be lucky
David

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

Hello. Barton will open for commercial helicopter operations 'out of hours'. Full details here (http://www.bartonaerodrome.co.uk/ops_extensions.asp) :ok:


Thanks for that. Good to know.

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

I believe that there was a DOD Atlas Air 74F at MAN today with a RCH flight number, but it wasn't listed as flying into MAN today.

It was due out to a Turkish Air Base around lunchtime.

When did it arrive at MAN, and was it supposed to fly into MAN?

Or was it a PIK diversion from yesterday, or similar???

[wiccan]

Arrived early for fuel, was going to Turkey, went to PIK at 1800ish
bb

[The AvgasDinosaur]

Here she is Atlas Air Boeing 747-200 N528MC chose Manchester over gusty conditions at Glasgow Prestwick during the early hours, diverting in as "Giant8224" to spent the day parked on the west apron.

http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk/N528MC_AD_041206.jpg photo: Keith Wignall
http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk/N528MC_KW_041206.jpg
Hope it helps
Be lucky
David

[Frustratin' Approach]

Was that a Hercules landing at MAN at about 13:40 last Wednesday (20.12.2006)?

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

Was that a Hercules landing at MAN at about 13:40 last Wednesday (20.12.2006)?


There was a Saudi Herc diverted in from LBA, as well as multiple RAF Herc diverts from Lyneham in the last few days.

[The AvgasDinosaur]

Was that a Hercules landing at MAN at about 13:40 last Wednesday (20.12.2006)?
Take your pick
http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk/dec06other.htm
Although "XV290 C130 Royal Air Force RRR5147 13:24 n/s Lyneham Diversion (Weather) looks favourite.
Hope it helps
Be lucky
David

[Frustratin' Approach]

XV290 looks like the one. It's a pity I missed the VC10.

Thanks both.

[gingernut]

The VC10 looked fantastic as it departed (noisily) on Thursday morning.

[MAN777]

Yep, been a member for 30 years, great society with members all over the place in all sorts of jobs.

[steve platt]

Atlas air 747 due in to man tomorrow 27/12. Landing at 05.00 out at approx 08.00 flight number is GTI5485.

[Ringwayman]

The Atlas Air is showing on the MAN website as being 1810/2015 tonight?

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

I noticed the Atlas 74F was in from Gander and out to AMS.

Did it bring cargo in?

And if so, what?

[chiglet]

YES.
Can't say
Collected
Went
watp,iktch

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

YES.
Can't say
Collected
Went
watp,iktch


Thanks - I think.

And what about the ACT Air Cargo A300F which has visited MAN a few times over the last weeks???

[steve platt]

Dl017 Due In Again On Thurs Morn 18/01/07 At Approx 0500. This Is Due To Strong Headwinds So It Needs To Call In For Fuel.

[PA38]

I am watching two Pakistan internationals orbiting north of Man's TMA, anyone know what's going on????

[Wodrick]

-3 - reduced RVR - maybe runway de-icing and LVPs combined.
I am about 6k SW ATCF.

[ManchesterMan]

Both PIA triple sevens diverting to BHX because of poor vis (150M) at
touchdown point.

[rampman]

they have now diverted to bhx due to dense fog

rampman

[gazza007]

AN124 Just arrived 10:05

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

Due out tonight to Cancun I believe.

Taking an engine out for an FCA aircraft down there.

No idea if it's coming back in with the sick one though.

[BYALPHAINDIA]

I Don't know if it has already being mentioned, But a friend of mine informed me that PIA 747's have being 'Banned' from UK Airspace, I saw what looked like a PIA 747 over Huddersfield on Wed ?

I have not read anything about a 747 ban.

The 747 was descending towards MAN @ 1555.

Regards.;)

[BOAC]

Go back and ask your 'friend' to substantiate this statement.

Try Google for 'airline blacklist' (search 'UK') and perhaps see if you can find this? I cannot.

[TSR2]

There is an article in the January edition of Airliner World.
Briefly, PIA suspended all B747 operations to Europe due to restrictions imposed by the CAA following inspections carried out on PIA flights to Europe made by B747, B777 and A310 aircraft. The B747 flight suspension came into effect early November.
Last Wednesdays PIA flights were operated by B777 aircraft.

[BOAC]

Thank you TSR2.

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

IS the 747 ban still operational? I know they have been flying into LHR, although the 777s are still serving MAN.

And does anyone know about the AA 767 landing at MAN late morning on Wednesday? It wasn't a scheduled arrival as far as I could make out - so assumed it must be some kind of med/tech divert of another flight or a return from a departed Manchester flight?

[rampman]

AA 055 B763 returnd to man on full emergency with one engien out .. and on landing gashed one of the wheels .... is stopping over night maybe till next week not sure
:ok: rampman

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

Though I saw a Monarch A330 landing at MAN on Monday morning with gear bays doors hanging down.

Presuming everything turned out ok?

[perkin]

Anyone know what the red + yellow high engined/high wing aircraft parked on a remote stant opposite Condorde at MAN is? Apologies for the criptic description, I taxied past it and was sitting on the wrong side of the aircraft to get a good look at it... :)

[BOAC]

I cannot remember the colour scheme but you could have been looking at the BAe RJX, the only (I think?) example of the advanced 'flying sausage' (BAe146).

Here is a picture

http://www.smiliner.com/news/pics/2001/bae_rjx85_taxi.jpgre

[The AvgasDinosaur]

I think this is the one you are after.
http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk/C-FLFW_DN_300407.jpg
Hope it helps.
Be lucky
David

[perkin]

Thanks BOAC, but not the RJX, its the one Avgas posted a pic of...

Whats it been doing in MAN then? I'm guessing its a fire-fighting plane?

[Whitehatter]

On delivery to France, parked up as part of a planned fuel/rest stop.

[perkin]

Thanks for the info people, must be a fairly unusual siting at MAN...? :)

[Pin Head]

Just seen a jet do a fly by max 1000ft above ground with gear and flaps down over Knutsford and Mobberley at 0906BST. Not seen that before.
Any info?

[steve platt]

Does anyone have any info about a delivery flight of a thai 737 coming through man either wed 13/06/07 or thurs 14/06.

Any info helpful. Thanks:ok:

[Fried_Chicken]

It's not a delivery flight. There is currently a Thai AF B737-400 (ex Aer Lingus) operating out of Scandinavia, I understand a senior VIP is attending college there (or similar). Presumably he's having a daytrip to Manchester

Fried Chicken

[Fuel Boy]

Heard 1 1/2 hours ago that a MYT 330 had burst 5 tyres at MAN and has requested a large defuel so they can jack it up!!!

It was supposed to leave around 1130z after engine tests and high speed taxi-ing but there must have been a major problem!!!

Any more info?? anyone

And how the hell do you get "5" blown Tyres?:confused:

[dkaarma]

And how the hell do you get "5" blown Tyres?:confused: 2 ways..

1. land on a really really really short but incredibly wide runway
2. do an autoland with a non-functioning autopilot
:ok:

[Georgeablelovehowindia]

Or land with the anti-skid inop for some reason. :bored:

[Snappybits]

Back in January four of six tyres on a BM flt ex London burst as it landed at LBA as well, it was said that one explanation could be that the aircraft's anti-skid system failed to work.

[tubby linton]

It was certainly there most of the afternoon and late evening.It was facing northwards near the 23L threshold.It was puzzling as to why it was facing this way as 23 was in use and it appeared to be facing the wrong direction.

[vs69]

If it was high speed taxiing as mentioned maybe the wheels got a bit warm and the thermal fuses did their job?

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

Caused Emirates 777 and a Flybe 146 to go around I think.

[gingernut]

Please don't acuse me of NIMBYism, it's a genuine enquiry.

Does anyone know when Manchester traffic will revert to using 23R runway for morning departures!

I love watching the planes, but the noise at 5.10am is awakening Mrs G, who :} can be grumpy at thebest of times, even more grumpier early morning.

[MAN777]

Thats a bit like saying when will they stop using the M1 motorway and revert to using the A1.

The new runway is here to stay and the afternoon closure is likely to go one day.

The only time the old runway is used for departures is during LVPs (low visibility) and for repair work or blockage.

[Suzeman]

Gingernut,

As far as I understand it, any aircraft departing at 0510 in the 23 direction would already be using 23R. 23L doesn't come into use until around 0600.

If however, there is a night-time maintenance closure of 05L/23R, then 05R/23L will be used at night. Local advertisments would be put in the press to advertise this. I can't see anything in the current NOTAMS to indicate a night time closure is currently in force.

MAN777 is quite right. The demand in the morning peak exceeds the capacity of the single runway operation on 05L/23R, so unless there is a major slump in demand in the peak, you are stuck with departures from 23L (or arrivals on 05R) from around 0600 onwards.

Hope this doesn't make Mrs G even more grumpy...:E

Suzeman

[gingernut]

Thanks for the replies, perhaps they just seem nearer than they are.:)

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

Did I see an Atlas 747-200F on the ground at MAN this evening?

Any idea how long it's staying and what it's doing at MAN?

[SAM-EMA]

Is there any where that I can find a schedule of all the movements at MAN for tommorow night.

Thanks a lot in advance
SAM-EMA

[TSR2]

All Manchester movements are listed in a publication called Flight Check. You may also get what you want at www.ringwayreports.co.uk.

If you let me know the time slots you are interested in, I will try to PM you the details.

[AircraftOperations]

Thought I saw a Jet 2 757-200 on approach to MAN around 13.30 Saturday with nosegear doors down (didn't see the main gear from my position).

Assuming there was a hydraulic issue, but that it wasn't too serious?

[Mr.Brown]

That is Correct!

[Sam-MAN]

Indeed you are correct.

Called up and announced an emergency, i saw everything get put into the DAYNE/MIRSI/ROSUN hold while it lined up on a 20mile final. Landed on 23L (i think). Possibly got towed back to stand aswell

[BYALPHAINDIA]

I heard it over the radio on Sat @ around 1345, I thought it was ZB517 A320 that had the Hydraulic problem??

He was talking like he had a problem with Hydraulics, And would need to be towed off the runway.:confused:

Happy New Year 2008:ok:

[AircraftOperations]

Well....

There was definitely an LS 757-200 on approach with nose gear doors down, well after gear had locked down.

This was about 13.45 Saturday.

Was hard to tell from my position if he was on 23L or 23R at that stage (5-7 miles from TDZ) but they sometimes switch across quite late in emergency situations at MAN.

Didn't notice any following aircraft to see if there was another with hydraulic issues.

[Sam-MAN]

Just had a bit of fun on the SBS.

G-CELD went around while on the 23R ILS then started going round in circles over the STOCK/DENBY area. Apparently couldn't raise his flaps above 10degrees. Landed now and all is good!

[opnot]

Sam Man
How about, could not lower his flaps below 10 degrees, as he was landing.

[AircraftOperations]

Just heard a very loud noise which sounded like an old-style jet airliner departing MAN. Time was 23.35z and I think they were on the 23s at the time.

Only similar noise I've heard recently at MAN post Concorde has been Tu-154s or the odd VC-10.

Anyone able to shed light on it? It was a prolonged noise, so not an arrival or an exposion in my opinion.

[Ringwayman]

Was an RAF VC10; it arrived about 10pm

[AircraftOperations]

I've still got it.

I'm a fair way from the 23 thresholds and it was very noticeable here. Guess the wind must be straight at me.

There's likely to be a few complaints regarding that one, I'd say.

[SM82]

RA76951 due in to MAN at 1550 departing at 1800.........

[AircraftOperations]

Is something AOG?

[chrisr150]

Bit of a long shot, but does anyone know to which airline a 747 belongs that departed MAN at about 19.35 last night? I was pax on a flight immediately after it, but I couldnt make out the airline markings on the aircraft and was curious as to whom it belonged.

[jojo82]

I have a feeling it might of been hellenic imperial airlines that sometimes operate for Lybian airlines or it might of been one of the many cargo (cathay Pacific, Jett8, Great Wall, Air China) 747s you might of seen (pls correct if wrong).
I was in work around that time of night on monday and i think it was the Hellenic aircraft, but i was some distance away!!!!!! who knows!! hope that helps a little.........anyone with more info please feel free to correct me as im not certain im right anyway! :O:confused::hmm: cheers and good evening.

[BYALPHAINDIA]

Ringway Reports is your friend - www.ringwayreports.co.uk (http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk)

[chrisr150]

Ah, yes, it was Hellenic Imperial Airlines! I could make out the 'imperial airlines' bit of the name, but it wasnt particularly clear. Ok, next question - what was it doing at MAN and was it PAx or freight? Is it a regular visitor? Looked to be very light on take off as it appeared not to use much runway...

PS Thanks for the link to ringway reports - have had a look on there before but I couldnt remember the name of the site :ok:

[BYALPHAINDIA]

It would have been a PAX flight, Probably for LAB.

The A/C is ex Lufthansa - DABYO??:ok:

[BYALPHAINDIA]

Yes it is getting regular at MAN now, Visited about 4 times now.

Normally visits at the weekend, Visited last Saturday also.

A short T/Off sounds like an empty Posn Flight.

[chrisr150]

A short T/Off sounds like an empty Posn Flight

Could well be. Having watched numerous heavy 747's from a similar end-of-runway position taking off at AMS, they seem to use a pretty significant amount of the 3600m+ runways there, whereas this thing went off like a rocket!

Had a similar experience in the 734 I was pax-ing in. Only about 30 or so on board, take-off run & climb performace felt a bit like being in a fast jet compared to usual, quite impressive! :ok:

[AircraftOperations]

The 742 is flying under its airline's flightnumber at the moment, possibly doing pax charters on routes between Greece, Larnaca, Stansted and Manchester.

LAB seem to have a more regular schedule now with their great looking CRJ900s.

[callum11223344]

Was at the AVP on sunday and a thomas cook A320 performed and emergency landing because of a failed generator, i think. Anyone have further info?
Thanks.

[radicalrabit]

We had been in the pub garden most of the afternoon and were surprised at the escort given to an aircraft on landing, So Thats what it was eh?

[callum11223344]

yeh that would have been it.