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hobie
24th Oct 2006, 15:28
Bet you never saw a Jumbo do this before .... :eek:

Boeing 747 Large Cargo Freighter (LCF) Successfully Tests Swing Tail .......

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/news/2006/q4/061023b_pr.html

http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/archive/2005/june/photos/june_st_sf_05-4.jpg

chornedsnorkack
8th Dec 2006, 09:25
Boeing 747-800 now has an airline customer. Lufthansa.

The length is settled at 76,3 m, which is 5,5 m stretch and longer than A340-600 (which LH also buys) at 75,3 m.

What is the plane supposed to be like?

Boeing 747-400 can have 624 seats inside - 539 on main deck, as Boeing airport planning manuals show, and 85 on upper deck. Corsair actually has 589, and ANA once had 594.

Any stretch would bring main deck capacity over 550. Does -800 have a sixth pair of main deck doors? Where?

4 m stretch of upper deck instead of 2 m previously offered means you could have 5 extra rows on upper deck. Adding 30 seats means 115 seats. So, extra pair of upper deck exits needed as well.

Where is the extra window row above stairs?

LH plans attic galleys. Does it mean doors in rear upper deck for service?

panda-k-bear
8th Dec 2006, 09:36
There's no such thing as a 747-800.

It's called a 747-8 and comes in two versions - 747-8F and 747-8I.

Why does everyone think it's called a -800 when it's not!!!

chornedsnorkack
8th Dec 2006, 09:49
There's no such thing as a 747-800.
It's called a 747-8 and comes in two versions - 747-8F and 747-8I.
Why does everyone think it's called a -800 when it's not!!!

Er... what is the official Boeing designation scheme again?

Boeing 707-120 is a Boeing 707 produced for Boeing company itself.
Boeing 707-121 is a Boeing 707 produced for Pan Am.

Et cetera.

However, 707-120 also seems to have circulated as collective term for 707-120, 707-121, 707-138 etc. etc.

Likewise 707-320 is a Boeing house frame, as well as collective for all 707-3xy models.

However, after 7x7-y99, the next customer code was 7x7-y01. Not 7x7-y00. 7x7-y00 seems reserved as the collective designation. So Boeing 727-100, 747-400 etc. Why not 747-800 likewise?

hobie
8th Dec 2006, 11:29
Some Customer code info here .....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_customer_codes

panda-k-bear
8th Dec 2006, 11:33
I don't really know why they've gone to single digits - you'd have to ask Boeing directly. However, the advent of the 787 disposed of the hundreds and went to single digits. You have quoted what they used to do. The nomenclature has changed.

So it is the 787-8
787-9
(787-10 if launched)

747-8.

It'll only take you 2 seconds to look on the Boeing website and you'll see what I mean. I do believe that Boeing knows what their own products are called, don't you agree?

So, no 747-800.

Only 747-8.

The AvgasDinosaur
8th Dec 2006, 11:51
I always thought that 747-8 and 787-8 787-9 etc were generic designations until customer spec a/c were built and therefore the aircraft would ( should or could ) be designated 747-830 when built to LH specifications.
Or have I got it wrong completely?
Be lucky
David