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mbga9pgf
9th Oct 2006, 08:19
Telegraph Article (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/09/wiraq09.xml)

RAF Hercules transport aircraft are flying secret missions into the heart of insurgent territory in Iraq to re-supply long range desert patrols.

Up to three sorties a week are being flown into Maysan province. The large but agile aeroplanes land on hastily constructed airstrips to deliver food, fuel and ammunition to cavalry soldiers operating far from friendly bases.

The missions have enabled troops from the Queen's Royal Hussars battlegroup to double the time spent watching the porous border with Iran for smugglers carrying bombs, guns and cash to fuel the insurgency in Iraq.

Flying mostly at night from Qatar, the C130 Hercules land on runways made by Royal Engineers on dried lake beds, roads or abandoned airstrips.

"We never land in the same place twice," a pilot said. "The locals would be waiting for us if we went back."

Soldiers on patrol along the border began relying on the air re-supply after British troops pulled out of Camp Abu Naji, in the lawless town of Al Amarah, in August.

Senior RAF officers said the Army requested the covert re-supply effort so that they could regain their "freedom of manoeuvre" and avoid getting pinned down in fixed bases that were mortared daily.

An Army officer in Iraq said the drops had allowed elements of the 600-strong Queen's Royal Hussars group to remain in the desert for up to a month.

Fluorescent strips that are visible only to the pilots mark the landing zones for the four-engine aircraft. On the ground, the Hercules keep their engines running and loadmasters push out cargo and unload any passengers in under nine minutes.

The RAF is also using parachute air drops in Afghanistan to resupply isolated "platoon houses" after road moves became too dangerous.

Flt Lt Michael Crook, a Hercules pilot recently returned from two successful parachuting missions, said the planes descended at speed from cruising altitude to under 500ft to avoid ground fire, but still managed to "bulls-eye" the supply drops.

cynicalint
9th Oct 2006, 08:33
Not so 'secret' now are they!

nigegilb
9th Oct 2006, 08:41
9 minutes on the ground. I assume they are taking time out to eat a curry and tab up.:)

flipster
9th Oct 2006, 09:20
Shhhh

Don't let easyjet and ryanair get wind of this or they'll start getting ideas to improve turnround times! In some places, however, this might be a good idea.

Cynic (aside), I bet they are not there any more - they probably go somewhere else.....now that would be secret!

Also, I've heard rumours that Hercs land on the mountain tops of the Hindu Kush - on hastily prepared airstrips made from rat-packs and ammo boxes. They are also para-dropping SBS RIBs onto the snow falls in the Afghan hills to allow the 2nd Battalion, Kings Own Downhill Skiers to attack the taliban from a most unexpected position!

Rumour also has it that the J model has been fitted with floats to allow it to land on the Tigris and Euphrates...apparently, the J crews say their ac floats better because it is mostly plastic and is not weighed down by oversized (?) crews. Alternatively, experts on the southside maintain that the Js low specific gravity might also be helped by the large amounts of hot air produced at all crew positions?

Tongue, from cheek, removed!

Flip

tablet_eraser
9th Oct 2006, 09:23
Can we expect an email from a cavalry officer describing the RAF as "utterly, utterly indispensible"?

Oh. I thought not.

Maple 01
9th Oct 2006, 09:25
Can't be true, don't forget we're utterly, utterly useless

handysnaks
9th Oct 2006, 09:58
You're certainly utterly, utterly thin skinned:cool:

airborne_artist
9th Oct 2006, 10:27
Flipster - I did some consultancy work for a well-known Gaelic airline who wanted to find out if they could disembark and embark pax without having to pay landing fees.

They were quite excited about the idea of training the trolley-pushers as jump-masters, but the Irish CAA drew the line at certifying the updated Fulton recovery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulton_surface-to-air_recovery_system) system for boarding the sun-burned hoards.

A pity, as it was all going so well :E

Always a Sapper
9th Oct 2006, 22:16
Flipster - I did some consultancy work for a well-known Gaelic airline who wanted to find out if they could disembark and embark pax without having to pay landing fees.
They were quite excited about the idea of training the trolley-pushers as jump-masters, but the Irish CAA drew the line at certifying the updated Fulton recovery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulton_surface-to-air_recovery_system) system for boarding the sun-burned hoards.
A pity, as it was all going so well :E
Fulton first used instrumented dummies as he prepared for a live pickup. He next used a pig, as pigs have nervous systems close to humans. Lifted off the ground, the pig began to spin as it flew through the air at 125 mph. It arrived on board undamaged but in a disoriented state. Once it recovered, it attacked the crew Go Piggy .... go... :E :E :E ..... Did it go right back out the back door?.......... :suspect:

flipster
10th Oct 2006, 00:35
"Squeal like a pig, boy!"