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The Resistance
20th Sep 2006, 22:54
Latest press release regarding Southwest and UPS. After reading this (and many more articles like it, WHY would ANY American want to put himself through the hazards and stress of maintaining a career (!) at CX. ps, the posting that mentioned that regardless of the profitability of CX, if they can fire you without cause (they can), there is no guarantee that you will ever actually profit from the success of the company is completely on the money (no pun intended!).



Southwest, UPS raise bar

In the span of two days, Southwest and UPS both raised the bar for pilot hourly pay rates. Southwest pilots received a 4% end-of-contract pay raise, while UPS pilots ratified an agreement that positions them as industry leaders in pilot hourly rates over the course of their 5-year deal.

It was a rare feat in the pilot industry in recent memory: two large airlines, already at the top of the heap in pay, pushing the bar even higher.

The industry since 2001 has been turned on its head. With the severe losses the legacy carriers sustained since September 11, pilot unions were forced to give concessions to help save their airlines. Now, slowly, pay raises are happening at some of the airlines as contractual pay bumps take effect, and contracts are being reworked.

Southwest, already the industry leader in the passenger narrowbody pay category, received their final pay bump in the current agreement (amendable Sept 2006) on September 1st. Today their top hourly rate is $198.

UPS pilots, meanwhile, with their unique one-size-fits-all-aircraft pay scale, ratified an agreement that gave them double digit pay raises. By 2012, a senior captain at UPS will be earning $262 per hour, while a 2nd year first officer will draw a respectable $149 per hour.

FedEx will likely join the group in the positive trend in upward wage movement in the next few months, as they will be soon voting on a tentative agreement that roughly matches that of the UPS deal.

Not to be forgotten, the current top hourly pay rates in the industry still belong to ABX Air (formerly Airborne Express) of Wilmington, Ohio. A B767-200 captain there tops out at $239 per hour.

All in all, the industry is still facing a serious challenge with oil at stratospheric levels, the chance of the economy softening, and the ever-present possibility of another successful terrorist strike on aviation. But there was one short stretch of positive news for pilots, and we hope this happens more frequently in the future.

Capt737AA
21st Sep 2006, 04:41
Except for the 2 or 3 airlines in the US of A making any real money and whose pilots are getting nicer contracts, there are a dozen or so whose balance sheet doesn't really allow for a "good contract".

My seniority is such that I took a 48% paycut in a 24 hour period when we took our concessionary contract in May of 2003. Not only did a number of us around my seniority take a simple paycut of 23% but then we got displaced from the left seat to the right seat, along with doubling of medical premiums, worse scheduling and reserve duty.

Are you getting the picture here? There are many, many reasons we are looking at other alternatives than to stay here in the very stagnate airline biz of this country where we are treated with no respect and constantly bombarded with bad news of having to give more productivity to the airline so they can stay out of bankruptcy.... oh, and also give themselves (management) HUGE bonuses for "losing money" and then of course the CEO takes a 23% pay RAISE to add insult to injury.... an no one was able to do a thing about it.

Sour grapes? Not really, just comparing it to how it all was pre 9/11

Pat
Capt 737 AA