Mid Wales 05/09/06

[jumpseater]

Ta v much to the GIB in the "FIN" that waved, made the hassle of the climb worth while!:}
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/2012images/_B6O4197.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/2012images/_B6O4203.jpg:ok:


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/2012images/_B6O4336-1.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/2012images/_B6O4342.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/2012images/_B6O4345.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/2012images/_B6O4269.jpg
I thought the SHARS had retired?:=

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/2012images/_B6O4263.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/2012images/_B6O4304.jpg
Even the spams came and had a look!

[O2thief]

Having spent over 1000 hrs in the rear seat of a Tornado GR1 (don't even think of calling it the "Fin") I object, most strongly, to numpties calling people like me GIB's. GIB's, Backseaters, WSO's, RIO's, are Spamism's. In general that does not do justice to the role that RAF/RN FJ navigators have carried out/continue to carry out, in numerous RAF/RN 2 seat aircraft, over the the last 30-40 years. I was, like a lot of my generation, a NAVIGATOR first and foremost and mighty proud of that fact! The fact that I wasn't the best or most natural the world has ever seen is neither here or there. I was trained properly and once I got the drift of what was required I was always there for my GIF, stick-monkey or mate and like to think that my imput was important and valued. Some of the best, most natural, leaders I ever came across in 38.5 years in the mob were Buccaneer, F4, GR1 and F2/3 NAVIGATORS-not GIB's or stick monkeys-NAVIGATORS. The odd Vulcan bloke weren't too bad either. :ok:
Old bloke moan ON/OFF to OFF.

[WIWOWessex]

Good piccies, what kind of camera were you using. (I'm on the hunt for a new one):ok:

[Ed Winchester]

Nice photos! Slight odour of wee in this thread. Must be the Gibbering Incontinent Baldrick that Zimmered in earlier for a rant. :zzz:

[jumpseater]

O2, nowt but respect for those that put on the uniform. What's a WSO anyway? a 'Waving System Operator'?:oh:

WIWOW its a Canon 1DmkII, theres a good thread for info here:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=238026;)

[WIWOWessex]

Ta muchly js:ok:

[muppetofthenorth]

SHars have retired, thats a GR....

ill stop being a pedantic tool now

muppet

[cornwallis]

I always though that gib=guy in burgerking (after they retire)!!

[GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU]

Jumpseater


Did you know that OASC can pass a bloke for driver but not for navigator? Never used to bother me but, as time goes by.

Anyway; bloody ace pics.

[jumpseater]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/2012images/_B6O4204.jpg

Obviously a thouroughly competent navigator to have time to: (a) look out the window, and, (b) wave at plebs as they pass by! :ok:

[WPH]

SHars have retired, thats a GR....

ill stop being a pedantic tool now

muppet


Will somebody please tell NavelEve and WEBF!

[Skunkerama]

Jumpseater, is the location secret?
I would love to spend some time getting some phots like that, although I should think that it takes a lot of practice.

Stunning photo's you must be very proud.

How long on average do you have to hang around to get shots like that? Do you have any inside info or do you just turn up and hope?

[tonkatechie]

He's not waving - he's trying to hide his face so that he doesn't get crated for being on Pprune....:cool:

[Olly O'Leg]

Nah, he's not hiding his face either. He's using the mirrors to good effect - "Now, do I look better with clear visor or shaded visor...." They have time for things like that.......

Light touchpaper, stand WELL back!!!

:} :} :}

[jumpseater]

Skunk, the general location is around the area known as the Machynlleth loop.
I've never had a heads up warning from any one, so it is turn up and hope. On Tuesday it was well into late morning before we saw anything. We'd been there (on the hill), since 08:30. I've had one day when only one a/c came past, I've known others who have had 'virgin' days. I find locations through large amounts of detailed map reading. Once you get there though what looks good on a map may not be practical or safe!
If you give it a go follow the countryside code, and make sure you have proper bad weather clothing, as the area has it's own micro climates high off the valley floor which can change in minutes. The last thing you want is a yellow taxi ride or worse.:{

[Skunkerama]

Thank you very much for the info Jumpseater. I'll be looking at getting a trip to that area organised soon. Ive spent a lot of time on Dartmoor so I hope I should be ok. Just hope the promised loan of a Canon EOS by a friend was genuine and not drink related.

[Stretchwell]

Great pics! Looks like O2Thief has a large fry....sorry chip.......on his shoulder! :oh:

I've flown with plenty of good navs and I've heard them called a lot worse than GIBs !!

[Colonal Mustard]

"Girly in Back"....:ugh:

[push&start]

"Gay in Back":hmm:
Well, someone had to say it.......Coat, hat etc

[Lara crofts pants]

Easy now O2 thief, you wouldn't want people to think that you were 1 Dimensional!:)

[buoy15]

I have never seen an F3 so incredibly clean and shiney
Is it 'display only', or have the lads on the wash pan done a really good job?

[Olly O'Leg]

Navs - they do do a Good Impersonation of Ballast!!!!!

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[mlc]

I have never seen an F3 so incredibly clean and shiney
Is it 'display only', or have the lads on the wash pan done a really good job?

It's not an F3! :)

[Snow Dog]

I thought backseaters were called O2 Thieves...

Oh!:D

[Tourist]

O2 Thief.

You get upset when numpties mistakenly call you a GIB.

Royal Navy Observers get very upset when numpties mistake them for navigators, an altogether lower form of life.

[O2thief]

Nice one, very clever. Keep them coming chaps; I'm going out for Saturday lunch with my wife now(she calls me something much worse than GIB). IIRC RN Observers were, colloquially, known as "lookers" when the FAA had some decent aircraft and carriers back in the good old days (809 & 892).

[torque dirty to me]

Pound for pound I'd rather have the fuel....... right up to the point on a dark and ****ty night, when the nav kit spits the dummy out in the middle of the ogsplash and mum is 160 miles away in a random direction:eek: :uhoh: :confused: Come back obs, all is forgiven!!!