What Cockpit? MK IV

[MReyn24050]

One to fill the gap. I am sure this one will go as quickly as the last one.
mel
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz172a.jpg

The MK III version can still be seen here:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=235197

[MReyn24050]

No takers? It is a British aircraft.

[Mr_Grubby]

Avro Anson ??

Clint.

[682al]

's'n'Oxford!

Unfortunately, I am far from my cockpit photo collection so will have to offer up the next round, in the event of being correct.

[MReyn24050]

682al
It is as you say a "s'n'Oxford" or to be more precise an Airspeed Oxford.:ok:
This was the one I was going to post but I thought that would be too easy:-

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz172.jpg

Hi Clint it is great to see the thread you started has been going for almost a year and with some 480 challenges :D, of which only about a dozen of which have been repeats. There are plenty more to come as well.

As 682al says anyone want to put up the 481st challenge?
Mel

[Mr_Grubby]

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gurry/Dadsphotos/cockpit15.jpg

Not sure if we have had this !!!
I don't have an up to date list Mel !!


Clint.

[jabberwok]

Wild guess here. DH95 Flamingo

[MReyn24050]

Clint
Latest List on its way.Check your E-Mails
Mel

[Mr_Grubby]

jabberwok,

Not DH 95.

C.

[India Four Two]

Twin engined, American instruments - upside down controlwheels - Cessna Bobcat (or maybe a Crane)?

On second thoughts, with such a clean cockpit, no artificial horizon and no right-hand brake pedals,maybe this is a civilian model, perhaps the prototype T-50?

[Mr_Grubby]

India Four Two.

I'm sorry but I have to take your first answer !!!!!!

It is indeed a Cessna UC-78 Bobcat.
Well done sir, you have control.


Clint.

[India Four Two]

Thanks Clint.

How about this type? I don't think it has been posted before.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/i42-1.jpg

And let's please remember, this is What Cockpit, not the Caption Competition ;)

[JDK]

Bristol Blenheim IV, which we have had! Alternatively we could be being clever with a Bollingbroke.

[India Four Two]

JDK,
Yes, it's the clever answer. The picture is from the Canada Science and Technology Museum (http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/aviation/index_choice.cfm?id=128&photoid=68402534)

A woman working in the cockpit area of a Bristol Bolingbroke at a Fairchild Aircraft factory
Longueil, Québec, Canada

I must have missed the page with the Mark IV. Over to you.

[PLovett]

Sorry about a little bit of thread drift but can someone explain what the two vertical T-handle controls behind the throttle quadrant in the photo of the Airspeed Oxford are for?

[jeppsbore]

Sorry about a little bit of thread drift but can someone explain what the two vertical T-handle controls behind the throttle quadrant in the photo of the Airspeed Oxford are for?

At a guess, HP cocks, fuel shut of valves

JB

[MReyn24050]

PLovett
Sorry about a little bit of thread drift but can someone explain what the two vertical T-handle controls behind the throttle quadrant in the photo of the Airspeed Oxford are for?
jeppsbore
At a guess, HP cocks, fuel shut of valves
jeppsbore is correct they are the fuel cocks for the main fuel tanks one for each engine. These control the fuel supply to the engines from both the main and auxilliary tanks.
Mel
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/AirspeedOxfordsFuelCocks.jpg

[JDK]

Thanks for the thread drift buying time while I was a'bed!

Shouldn't last long...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/CockpitQuiz/Mystery280806.jpg

[MReyn24050]

The Miles Southern Martlet G-AAYX perhaps?

[JDK]

Well done Mel.

I thought about making it a monochrome image and so on, but decided that would be cheating.

You have control!

[MReyn24050]

Thanks JDK
I must admit that at first I thought it was the Arrow Active. I am sure you will have no difficulty with this one.
Mel
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz174.jpg

[Speedpig]

Pitts Special?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry speedpig,not the Pitts Special

[evansb]

Great Lakes?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry evansb, Not a great Lakes.
Mel

[treadigraph]

Stolp Starduster?

[MReyn24050]

treadigraph
This one is similar but not the Stolp Starduster
Mel

[MReyn24050]

Sorry bral, not the Acro Sport II either.
I shall be off line for a few hours hope this will not cause a problem.
Mel

[Speedpig]

Modeernised Waco maybe? Clearly a 2 seat biplane.

[paulc]

Murphy Renegade ?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry for the delay bral has it. It is the Steen Skybolt.
You have control

[treadigraph]

Comper Swift?

[treadigraph]

Cor that is rather nice! Heard about it but never seen it. Is it all new build, or any original bits?

As usual I am afraid I don't have anything to offer - Bral please go ahead and do yer worst, my teeth are already aching, must go see the dentist... :}

[JDK]

Fokker tri-motor.

F-VII?

[JDK]

Hi Bral,
Ta. It would be hard to say 'no' to a close guess like that. I am pleased to have seen the real thing, although not the cockpit:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/DSCF0106.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/DSCF0089.jpg

(Note - photos from my archive, with watermark. No commercial element, just contact details for people who wish to use...)

And for the next challange, I don't think we've had this beastie before.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/Myster300806.jpg

[LowNSlow]

Gloster Gladiator maybe?

[Woomera]

"Now on view at Tamworth airport in a glass and brick building".

I'm sure bral actually meant to say "Now on view at Brisbane International airport in a glass and brick building."

[evansb]

Fairey Swordfish Mk. II

[JDK]

evansb has it. Fairey Swordfish of the Royal Navy Historic Flight, here seen at Duxford. http://www.royalnavyhistoricflight.org.uk Specifically, LS326, a Mk.II 'Blackfish'. being Blackburn built.

[evansb]

My first photo post, inspired by the UC-78 panel.http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pxzZ39wV--_cOVn2UBjqJV9dtcJoQlqFFyvFHCJzKrL1g22JQmITm-8OxtVo1K27d8ZdUVRZmO-AwY7krI8hMpy6xdKvkxa76jezESYZaeg6iSJZJkeA7OgpDx0xGyjHMKsTV70 nitns

[paulc]

Spartan Arrow ?

[evansb]

Not an Aerocoupe, nor a Spartan Arrow.

[foxmoth]

Spartan Arrow ?

:confused: Arrow is open cockpit and tandem (http://futurshox.net/aeroview.php?level=image&id=1993) this is closed side by side - or were you looking at the previous cockpit?

- Piper of some sort? - Colt?

[paulc]

Was thinking of the American Spartan 7W Arrow rather than the UK one.

2nd guess - Norsemen?

[Speedpig]

Globe Swift?

[evansb]

Not from Piper's stable. The aircraft in question first flew several years before the Colt/Tri-Pacer.

[evansb]

Not a Globe Swift, nor a Noorduyn Norseman.

[evansb]

Not a Spartan 7W Executive.

[treadigraph]

Fleet Canuck?

[MReyn24050]

Star Cavalier?

[evansb]

Not a Fleet Canuck.

Not a Star Cavalier. The mystery plane first flew a few years after the Star Cavalier.

[con-pilot]

Cessna 'Airmaster'? A forerunner of the Cessna 190/195.

[evansb]

I am familiar with the Cessna Airmaster C-38 to C-165 variants. Sorry, not an Airmaster.

[pigboat]

Bellanca Cruisemaster? :confused:

[evansb]

Sorry pigboat, not a Bellanca Cruisair or Cruisemaster.

For all, the mystery aircraft is not a one-off, nor a home-built. Over 500 examples were produced.

[treadigraph]

A Rearwin perhaps? Or the Commonwealth Skyranger, which I think was a license built Rearwin?

[cringe]

Stinson 105 ?

[yowie]

OK C-195 then

[treadigraph]

Shhh! He's still asleep! :zzz:

Aeronca 15 Sedan?

[MReyn24050]

I would go with cringe, but not the 105 I would say it was A Stinson Model 10.

[evansb]

cringe got it! :ok: It is officially a Stinson HW-75 but more commonly known as a "105". Info on the specific aircraft is at the following link:

www.steveweaver.com/n99992.htm (http://www.steveweaver.com/n99992.htm)

More info on the "105" is available at the following link:

www.classicaircraft.ca/105_main.htm (http://www.classicaircraft.ca/105_main.htm)

Over to you.

[cringe]

Thanks. Try this next (sorry for the delay):

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk56.jpg

[evansb]

An Arado 232?

[cringe]

Sorry, not an Arado.

[evansb]

Caproni Ca 314?

[cringe]

You're getting warmer, though it's not the Ca 314.

[evansb]

Caproni Ca 312?..

[cringe]

Not the Ca 312 either. Only a few were built.

[MReyn24050]

Caproni Bergamaschi Ca.306 Borea (north wind) perhaps?

[MReyn24050]

Change of mind the Caproni Ca-31Libeccio?

[cringe]

Sorry, neither a Borea nor a Libeccio.

[MReyn24050]

thanks cringe I will then go for the Caproni Ca.331 OA?

[cringe]

That's the one, Mel. :ok: Your turn.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk56a.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk56b.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Thanks cringe it was great to see another good challenge from you. I am sure this one will not last long.
This photograph was taken during build.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz167.jpg

[682al]

The clues point to an Armstrong Whitworth type.

Is it the Ensign?

[MReyn24050]

Well it lasted an hour. 682al it is indeed the A.W.27 Ensign :ok:
You have control
Mel

[682al]

Thanks Mel, this one will last about as long!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/682al/test.jpg

[evansb]

Miles Magister, or a variant thereof.

[682al]

Correct evansb, the Magister front cockpit.

Over to you...

[evansb]

Thanks al. Here is one for your Saturday evening pleasure.http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pxzZ39wV--_cOVn2UBjqJV3ov_GTm_upd5taCM9zMmR1WYojzHYSKiRg3UAgFm0ygUSQax Rw8c-E1odhs9ZocpbII2G9k_Psg_o53nHsTFDcUoQarGUDOCRZ-KeCO-MiPvREeLvg3eh8

[barit1]

Somehow I'm thinking - SAAB Scania?

[evansb]

Sorry, not Scandahoovian.

[MReyn24050]

How about the Fairchild C-123K Provider?

[Mr_Grubby]

Fairchild Packet.


C.

[evansb]

You 've got it! It is indeed a Fairchild C123 Provider.
The beast was SLOWER than the C119 Boxcar, but had better short field performance and a shorter turning radius.
Over to you

[MReyn24050]

Thanks evansb.
I am sure this will be no problem
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz169a.jpg

[MReyn24050]

No takers, didn't think it would be that difficult. The aircraft had a certain uniqueness and flew early 40s.

[evansb]

Miles M.35 Libellula?

[barit1]

It appears to be very much in the pointy end of the fuselage, and a single. Thus - a pusher maybe?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry evansb not a Miles. barit1 this one's engine was not a pusher.
Mel

[foxmoth]

Some sort of Helicopter or similar?

[evansb]

Kellett YO-60.

[MReyn24050]

Sorry for the delay Foxmoth it is an Autogiro.
evansb you are correct :ok:
It is a Kellett Autogiro but not the YO-60 it is a photograph of the instrument panel of the XO-60 located in the NASM Collection. As you no doubt know the first contract for the supply of an autogiro for the U.S. Army was placed in 1935 on the Kellett Autogiro Corporation for the YG-1. This led to an order for seven none armed two-seater models of the observation aircraft, the O-60 (YG-1B), in 1942. The first six aircraft being the development YO-60. The seventh was an experimental aircraft designated XO-60 and was delivered for evaluation to Wright Field, Ohio in 1944. The XO-60 was the last autogiro ever delivered to the U.S. Army Air Forces.
The only material difference between the "X" and "Y" models was the landing gear. The simpler XO-60 relied on a rigid gear arrangement, while the YO-60s relied on a high-travel strut arrangement. Normally the "X" series experimental model precedes the "Y" series service test model, but in the case of the O-60 program, the reverse was true. The USAAF accepted the first YO-60s in August 1943 and the XO-60 in February 1944. This photograph is I believe a photograph of the YO-60.
You have control Sir
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/KellettXO-60.jpg

[foxmoth]

Guessed the rotary bit but did not have the time to research it last night. obviously gave the game away for Evansb

[evansb]

Adding to the difficulty was that I had read that the YO-60 had perspex panels beneath the pilot's feet to aid in observation, an item missing or not visible in the photo. My submission:http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pxzZ39wV--_cOVn2UBjqJV2-H9qptbJ8omNOTNYNo52sk5ZaaPf4q5VPCgGAWqFFivsXcLzvpHrkHrLVUFCM JfDYay9K-mcoJLa1Dh4CnlitZ0ASyUdxdLmVfMfZPbXKxemr7lZA0YSg

[cringe]

Fisher XP-75 Eagle

[MReyn24050]

evansb
Adding to the difficulty was that I had read that the YO-60 had perspex panels beneath the pilot's feet to aid in observation, an item missing or not visible in the photo.
As you rightly point out the clear sliding canopy was undercut to the fuselage side,granting excellent downward view supplemented by windows between the pilot's and observer's feet.
The windows is in the photograph however it does not show up the outside view very well due to the lighting.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/windows.jpg
cringe well done once again :ok:

[evansb]

Correct! The contra-rotating counter-productive XP-75 it is.
Over to you.

[cringe]

Thanks, guys. Here we go:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk55.jpg

[evansb]

Early Bloch 131, prototype perhaps?

[MReyn24050]

Hi cringe, another great challenge. A Petlyakov Pe-2 perhaps?

[cringe]

Sorry, neither a Bloch nor a Petlyakov.

[MReyn24050]

Focke-Wulf FW-58 Weihe perhaps?

[cringe]

Mel, not the FW-58.

Clues: Not a bomber. One of the guesses identitied the correct nationality.

[evansb]

It would appear that only two or three people have been submitting answers lately...:confused:

My guess is the Tupolev TU-2 (non bomber version of course). I understand it originated as the ANT-60.

[cringe]

Not the Tu-2 or ANT-60. Further clues: This type had a powered and an unpowered variant. The course of war prevented serial production.

[evansb]

Sud-est SE.100? I've never read about a glider version though.

[cringe]

Not French. The plane maker was better known for successful fighter designs.

[LowNSlow]

A Messerschmidt perhaps?

[cringe]

Nope, sorry. Another country.

[wz662]

Hamilcar X

[cringe]

Not the Hamilcar X either. Not British.

[JDK]

OK, so to sumarise...

It's Russian, If I follow Cringe's clues correctly. Famous for fighters? MiG (later) Yak, Lavotchkin / LaGG, Polikarpov... It's wooden, presumably a twin engined (or no-engined!) transport...

And that's where I stumble, my boy's big book of obscure Ruski Great Patriortic Warplanes isn't cooking tonight.

[MReyn24050]

Hi cringe. Earlier you said "One of the guesses identitied the correct nationality" At that point there had been aircraft of only three nations submitted:- France, Russia and Germany. Since then both France and Germany have been discounted therefore it must be Russian. As far as I am aware the only unpowered aircraft i.e. gliders produced by Russia were the Il-32, Yak-14 and the TS-25. The Il-32 was rebuilt as the Il-34 a powered glider so I will go for the Il-34.
Mel

[cringe]

JDK and Mel,

Russian it is. Not an Ilyushin or a Yakovlev. Nor the TS-25. Obscure it may be, though the manufacturer isn't.

[LowNSlow]

Is it a powered version of the Yak-14 Mole (Mare) transport glider?
Paused too long and mised Ms Cringe's post.......

[MReyn24050]

Moskalev SAM-25 perhaps?

[cringe]

Not a Moskalev. The variant designations are acronyms for "combat troop-carrier glider" and "powered glider".

[MReyn24050]

Based on your latest I will go for the Polikarpov BDP (Boevoi Desantnyi Planer) Military assault glider which Polikarpov converted into the Motorplaner -MP. Only one MP was built.
Mel

[cringe]

Well done Mel, I knew we could count on you. :D Sorry for another one-off type. Your turn.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks cringe. Please do not apologise, it was a great challenge. I could only find one side elevation of the BDP you must have some great sources.
I am sure this one will not last as long.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz175.jpg
Mel

[aerobelly]

Antonov AN-2?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry aerobelly not the Antonov AN-2.

[barit1]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/barit1/S73.jpg

The Savoia-Marchetti S.73...
(nope, wrong side windows.)

[evansb]

Air France Liore-et-Olivier LeO H-24 on the Algiers run.

[MReyn24050]

barit1 you are correct about the wrong windows but it is not a Savoia-Marchetti S.73.
evansb. You are correct in one thing it is a French aircraft but not a Liore-et-Olivier LeO H-24. However you may be correct regarding the Algiers run.
Mel

[evansb]

Ah yes, a Breguet 393T. You see, I initially tried to do it without my fez on!:O

Enroute from Toulouse to Casablanca..

[evansb]

Hey cringe!

How about a photo of the Motorplaner -MP?!

[MReyn24050]

evansb. You have it:ok: The control is yours.:)

[evansb]

Thanks Mel. next up:http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pxzZ39wV--_cOVn2UBjqJV7LNYTbD5W7yWf_UJEtKNOcKgta-7-FA8vyY7m72VFmdAJPHVmHQ_EWOPyAR7C_rFneYBg6koUtDU_fTWC-JHGxlPJNhpPtRNfEhUytRT9lecKY9gM6PPL4

[JDK]

Ah.

Clearly, by cheating, I see it's the MSN Mk.I "x1pxzZ39wV--_cOVn2UBjq
JV7LNYTbD5W7yWf_UJEtKNOcKgta-7
-FA8vyY7m72VFmdAJPHVmHQ_EWOPy
AR7C_rFneYBg6koUtDU_fTWC-JHGxlP
JNhpPtRNfEhUytRT9lecKY9gM6PPL4"

Better known as the 'PPL4' to it's friends, of course.

This one's clearly had 'one careful owner, offers... :D

Sorry...

(Dunno, but then we've had some posers recently, I doff my Fez!)

[evansb]

It is not a 'PPL4'.

[JDK]

Rats. So you won't want my winning lottery number for tomorrow either then? :}

Is it an agricultural-use or aerobatic machine?

[evansb]

Aerial applicator type.

[pigboat]

Thrush Commander?

[evansb]

Close, but this aircraft is older.

[pigboat]

Hmm...Yoeman's Cropmaster?

[evansb]

Not as good looking as the Yoeman Cropmaster. Sorry.

[Philthy]

Not a humble Pawnee?

[MReyn24050]

Snow S-2D perhaps?

[evansb]

A Snow it is :ok: In fact it is a 1965 Snow 600 S2C, the last year Snows were produced.

For a history of Snow Aircraft:

www.airtractor.com/history (http://www.airtractor.com/history)

For more photos of the posted aircraft, just google image "Snow 600 aircraft"

I'm still waiting for cringe to post a photo of the "Motorplaner".. Over to you Mel.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks for that evansb, it was a good challenge. Another easy one to keep things moving.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz177.jpg
Mel

[Philthy]

Something Froggy? Those throttles are very B17 - must have copied them.

[pigboat]

Sud-Est SE 2010?

[MReyn24050]

Philthy and Pigboat. This one was not French

[pigboat]

Ilyushyn Il-18?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry pigboat neither is it a Russian aircraft.

[MReyn24050]

No Mike this one was not German.

[MReyn24050]

Sorry Mike not from the USA, the B17 may have had some influence on the design but I cannot confirm that.

[evansb]

I've seen a similar control yoke on a WWII Japanese wreck. I'll guess it is a Nakajima G8N.

[cringe]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/cringe_/unk55a.jpg

Sorry for the delay, I've been offline for a few days.

[MReyn24050]

evansb
I've seen a similar control yoke on a WWII Japanese wreck. I'll guess it is a Nakajima G8N
It is indeed a Nakajima G8N1 Renzan (Rita). :ok: :D
You have control.
cringe. Many thanks for the photograph of the Motorplaner, my reference book only has a side elevation of the BDP, which apart from the lack of engines is identical except for the lack of wheels, however I understand that the BDP did have wheels for take off but were dropped after take off. Was that a similar case with the MP?
Mel

[cringe]

Hi, Mel.

It appears so. According to one description, the Motorglider had a pair of jettisonable wheels attached to each of the skis.

D

[evansb]

Thanks Mel. Lovely Rita.. For Monday:



http://tkfiles.storage.msn.com/x1pxzZ39wV--_cOVn2UBjqJV689l4vmZVQzj19ulDrOHNiOnq6MlXKRlemwfUCgkBskwb16q lDY-cL1ZYym23xspLU4X-4Hg9NMhb6MeJh45nmYixdx5dMTjnQC8l-IFxVnDJAys5B_Ajw

[MReyn24050]

How about the Gippsland GA-8 Airvan?

[evansb]

Yes Mel it is:ok: Over to you..

[MReyn24050]

Thanks evansb
Another one in colour
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz183.jpg
Mel

[evansb]

I think we are masters of delusion, are we not? ..I'll guess a Supermarine series floatplane racers.. ?

[MReyn24050]

evansb
I think we are masters of delusion, are we not? ..I'll guess a Supermarine series floatplane racers.. ?
Not sure what you mean? However,it is not one from the Supermarine stable.The original photograph was in colour, I will admit to increasing the size slightly.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz183a.jpg
Mel

[paulc]

Ryan PT19 ?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry paulc.
Not the Ryan PT19.

[evansb]

Mel, the image size is good. I deluded myself into thinking the blue and silver colour combined with the strut wires would lead to a British racing plane.

[MReyn24050]

evansb. No problems, this one was not a British aircraft.
Mel

[barit1]

Ryan PT19 ?

Ryan built the ST / PT-20 / NR-1 / PT-22 and they were all aluminium (note PC spelling!) monocoque fuselages, wire-braced wings.

Fairchild built the PT-19 / PT-23 / PT-26 series and had a truss frame, but with square (not round) steel tubing. Cantilever wood wing. :8

[MReyn24050]

barit1.
Not a Ryan or Fairchild, this was not an American aircraft.
Mel

[JDK]

...not British, not American...

European? Perhaps French?

[MReyn24050]

JDK
It was European but not French.
Mel

[JDK]

Ah, then it MUST be the Bulgarian Cranack 4B Fitzzer R.

Should that guess prove wrong, :} maybe Italian? And not German?

[paulc]

CASA / Bucker Jungmann or Jungmeister?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry non of the following:-
JDK
The Bulgarian Cranack 4B Fitzzer R.German or Italian.
paulc
CASA / Bucker Jungmann or Jungmeister

[rodthesod]

Just a guess, Andreason BA4?

[Speedpig]

Fiat CR32 Chirri?

[MReyn24050]

rodthesod. Good guess but not the Andreason BA4 I am afraid.
Speedpig Sorry this is not a Italian aircraft.

[paulc]

Polikarpov Po2 'mule'

[MReyn24050]

paulc
This aircraft was constructed in the mid 1930s but was not a Russian aircraft.
Mel

[evansb]

A Kawanishi E7K "Alf"?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry evansb. As stated at Post #177 this aircraft was European
Mel

[evansb]

A Belgian built Avions Fairey Mk. VII Fox (Kangourou)?

[MReyn24050]

Not the Avions Fairey Mk. VII Fox. Only a few aircraft of this type were built but it did remain in service until the mid 1940s.

[evansb]

Fokker C.X?

[MReyn24050]

Not a Fokker C.X. Will be off line for a few hours, have a good night.
Mel

[JDK]

Not the Fokker, but he didn't say it wasn't Dutch. Is that a string of negatives? :}

European, not French, German, Russian, Italian or British. He's not said it's NOT Belgian or Dutch.

Hmmm.

[seacue]

Nor Swedish.......

[Speedpig]

must be Spanish????

[evansb]

I'll have another go. A Svenska Aero SA-11/J6 Jaktfalk.

[treadigraph]

Bjorn Andreason was a Swede I t'ink... As to the cockpit, everyhting I can think of has been mentioned!

[MReyn24050]

Sorry about the string of negatives. However seacue has come up with a positive. It is a Swedish aircraft but not by Bjorn Andreason neither is it the Svenska Aero SA-11/J6 Jaktfalk. Only a few of this type were built.

[Speedpig]

Klemm Flugzeugbau KL 35 B he guessed wildly

[MReyn24050]

Speedpig. I am afraid your wild quess is incorrect. It is not the Klemm Flugzeugbau KL 35 B.

[rodthesod]

Svenska Aero J 5?

[MReyn24050]

rodthesod. Sorry not the J 5 - Svenska Aero Jaktfalken.

[paulc]

Sparrmann S1-A?

[MReyn24050]

paulc.
:ok: It is indeed the S - 1A Sparmann Jagaren:D
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/P1.jpg
You have control

[JDK]

Cooo.. That was hard.

[paulc]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/PaulChandler/th_cockpitpictureno1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/PaulChandler/cockpitpictureno1.jpg)


try this one - (apologies if a bit small)

[pigboat]

Hi Paul, is that a Vanguard?

Me eyes ain't what they used to be. ;)

[paulc]

Pigboat,

no - not a vanguard (but it is my own picture)

[Speedpig]

Looks like a VC10 (from a long way off) but not 100% sure about the yokes...:confused:

[MReyn24050]

Antonov An-12A perhaps, it is certainly an An-12 but not sure of the type number.

[paulc]

yes - it is an AN12 Russian Air Force - coded 50 Red - taken in 2001 at Ostefeyvo

[MReyn24050]

Thank you paulc. Here is an easy one to finish the week. I am sure it will not last long.Mel
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz184.jpg

[JDK]

Dewoitine D-520?

[MReyn24050]

JDK. Not the Dewoitine D-520.

[JDK]

Ah, but eet iz Fronch, Monsuer, isz eet nert?

Mah seconde guess iz zee excriable Caudron C-714

(French Trans. Prov N. Molesworth, the Gorilla of 4B)

[MReyn24050]

Monsieur. Il est le plus certainement français mais pas comme indiqué par vos deuxièmes quess le Caudron C-714.
In case the Gorilla of 4B has not reached this standard it is not a Caudron C-714.

[JDK]

My final guess for the day -

Bloch MB-152?

[MReyn24050]

JDK Sorry you are not having much luck today . Is not the Bloch MB-152.

[evansb]

Morane-Saulnier M-S 406.

[MReyn24050]

evansb. This one is not the Morane-Saulnier M-S 406 I am afraid.

[MReyn24050]

No more takers? I did not think it would be that difficult, it is French as JDK confirmed and WWII vintage.

[Speedpig]

Dewoitine D510?

[MReyn24050]

Speedpig. This one was not a Dewoitine aircraft.

[evansb]

Potez P.63-11?

[JDK]

Is it a twin?

Bloch MB-131.

[evansb]

Is it a twin?

Bloch MB-131.

Check the upper right-hand dials..

[pigboat]

Potez 631?

[MReyn24050]

JDK It is not a twin and therefore not the Bloch MB-131. Neither is it the Potez P.63-11 nor the Potez 631.

[evansb]

OKAY! Not a twin. Yet still "French":{ .Get out your copy of the "1940 Janes , All The Nazi Over-Run Countries Aircraft"!

[MReyn24050]

evansb
That is correct, it is a French single engined aircraft circa 1940.
To help this a photograph of the port side.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz184a.jpg
Mel

[MReyn24050]

I didn't think it would be that difficult. Unfortunately this aircraft arrived too late to see service in the Armée de l'Air during the Battle of France.

[MReyn24050]

Unfortunately this aircraft arrived too late to see service in the Armée de l'Air during the Battle of France.
Which was a shame as it was faster than the Dewoitine D-520

[Ze Invizibeul Frog]

Eet must bee ze Arsenal_VG-33 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_VG-33), zen.

Being an unfrequent poster, one shall pass one's turn.

[pigboat]

Bloch 152C?

[MReyn24050]

pigboat
Sorry this aircraft was not a Bloch aircraft.
Mel

[MReyn24050]

Eet must bee ze Arsenal_VG-33 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_VG-33), zen.
Being an unfrequent poster, one shall pass one's turn.
Ze Invizibeul Frog. I do sincerely apologise for missing your response, that is the trouble being invisible. It is the right answer :D :D :ok: As you rightly say the aircraft was the Arsenal VG-33.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/VG33-3.jpg
Ze Invizibeul Frog has opened up the floor for the next challenge.

[seacue]

This is a VERY easy one!
http://users.erols.com/rcarpen/q0609.jpg

[JDK]

Boeing 314. :D

[oncemorealoft]

Well done JDK you beat me by seconds!

If you visit the Foynes Flying Boat Museum in Ireland, about 30 mins drive from SNN, you can now see a life size mock-up of a Boeing 314 Clipper. The museum, in what was once the terminus for transatlantic operations is well worth a visit.

[JDK]

I'm sure seacue won't mind my jumping in...

When I decided to check my Boeing hunch, I came up with the picture s had posted almost imediately. :E

I don't think this one will be too tough:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/CockpitQuiz/Mystery10009.jpg

[seacue]

Oops JDK, of course you are right on the B314. It took me a while to find that photo, how come it was easy for you to find?

[JDK]

Luck, I guess, seacue. I was just looking up 'Boeing 314' on Google, and what pops up on page three I try, but the selfsame pic!

[MReyn24050]

Looks like an uncowled radial engine up front. A WACO ATO perhaps?

[JDK]

Not a WACO.

Very, very cold....

[evansb]

Is it Australian in origin? You said Mel (MReyn24050) was very cold in the WACO. The strut and wire configuration are reminiscent of some early Consolidated and Fleet designs however...

[BSD]

Morning everyone!

How about an Avro Tutor?

BSD

[JDK]

evansb, if anything, colder still. Brrrrr.

BSD, how about an Avro Tutor indeed? Lovely aircraft, but not this one.

Hmmm. Clearly a clue or two is/are required.

You are all too late (Cue manic laff) but the nearest is BSD; as this aircraft was a unique example of the type and it's family, as a flyer (until recently) and it does have a connection to the flying Tutor at Shuttleworth; but not in Nationality, age or purpose - but something else. :}

The control column's a clue all of its own.

[BSD]

Hmmmmmm.

Lengthy pause for thought.

JDK, thanks for the clues.

BSD.

[Dennis_K]

JDK,

This must be the LVG C.VI!
The thing it has in common with the Tutor is that it's the sole survivor of its type.

Dennis

[MReyn24050]

JDK
If I was very cold and evansb was even colder and you say the aircraft was not of the same nationality as the Avro Tutor is it possibly from the continent of Europe. The control column looks as though it has firing triggers in the centre. Is that space on the right of the instrument panel for a gun? Perhaps the Swedish
ASJA RK 26 Tiger-Schwalbe or Heinkel/Sv.Aero HD 19?

[JDK]

A little more of a combatant nation than Sweden.

It is indeed a continental European type, and after the war, was used as an 'airliner'(!) among others by a now-famous pen company.

This was the only flyer of its type anywhere in the world; I think there is only one other, which is under restoration.

As to the space on the right, no gun fitted (but there was one in the rear position, not on a Scarf mounting) and I've been unable to establish if there was normally a gun there in service - I think so.

If you wound the handle underneath, the telephone switchboard might have plugged you through to Bedfordshire exchange... ;) Now the Shropshire equivalent.

[JDK]

Sorry, your edit - not a Heinkel either.

[MReyn24050]

How about the Montblanc LVG C VI, 1922 ?

[JDK]

Weelll.... Right type, wrong aircraft (my misleading clue).
It's the RAF Museum's LVG C.VI as operated for many years by the Shuttleworth Collection, Old Warden aerodrome, Biggleswade, Bedfordshire. Now grounded and returned to the RAF Museum (on their requirement) who've put it in store, it was not only the only LVG airworthy, it was the only genuine W.W.I German aircraft of any type airworthy anywhere in the world...
http://www.airwar.ru/image/i/other1/lvgc6-i.jpg
You have control!

[MReyn24050]

JDK
Thanks Good challenge, I am sure this will go soon
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz180-1.jpg

[Speedpig]

ME110 perchance... or is that scaffolding I think I see not attached?

[MReyn24050]

Speedpig
Not the ME110 no the scaffolding not attached.
Mel

[My Dad's Little Boy]

He-219 Uhu?

MDLB

[MReyn24050]

MDLB
Not the He-219 Uhu either I am afraid.
Mel

[evansb]

Yakovlev Yak-4/BB-22 twin-engined bomber/reconn?

[MReyn24050]

evansb

It certainly is a twin but this aircraft was not Russian nor was it from Germany. Mel