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fantaman
21st Aug 2006, 13:02
Why dont we do a video like this! Swiss AF fun :cool:

http://www.evilchili.com/mediaview/4776/Swiss_Air_Force__Fun

Great video :D :ok: :D :ok: :D :ok:

Phil_R
21st Aug 2006, 19:24
Because it costs £100,000 to engineer a camera mount that's certifiable to fly on a modern military jet, that's why...

Regards,

Phil

Colonal Mustard
21st Aug 2006, 19:36
God i hate the music.......okay okay...the flying was alright but why oh why do they have to add some s*** rock style music..it turns it all Top Gun ish......aagh...


A note to any prospective advert film maker out there......DONT USE ROCK MUSIC.........Although i dont think that " A Town called Malice " would work either

CBrough
22nd Aug 2006, 07:25
Great winging, Colonel, sir etc. What do YOU suggest. I have made a few similar videos in the past (very cr@p in comparison to this video) and I feel that rock music hits the spot.

Please enlighten us with your preferences.:)

Colonal Mustard
22nd Aug 2006, 08:12
1. The engine, its loud enough

2. In exceptional circumstances the pilot audio

3. O Fortuna from Carmina Burana ...http://www.last.fm/music/Carl+Orff/_/O+Fortuna

Then click the little play button to hear it... i just think it beats Rock sh** hands down :eek:

Lord_Flashheart
22nd Aug 2006, 08:23
Because it costs £100,000 to engineer a camera mount that's certifiable to fly on a modern military jet, that's why...

And the awful 'splinter stuck in finger in supermarket' RAF recruiting ad cost HOW much instead?

I know which footage I'd rather blow taxpayers money on!

Mad_Mark
22nd Aug 2006, 08:25
Because it costs £100,000 to engineer a camera mount that's certifiable to fly on a modern military jet, that's why...

And exactly what percentage of that video used £100,000 camera mounts to provide the excellent footage :confused:

MadMark!!! :mad:

Phil_R
22nd Aug 2006, 10:21
I dunno. Ten, fifteen? But it has to be there. The rest of it requires another £100,000 worth of fuel for the aircrew to make pass... after pass... after pass over the camera position. It's genuinely quite tricksy to follow aircraft, I've done a bit of it.

The depressing thing about TV ads is that you generally end up paying about £500,000 to Scaatchi, Scaatchi, Scaatchi, Scaatchi and Scaatchi, or some other such useless bunch of, eh, consultant type people, then you get to spend about £1.50 producing the thing.

-P

Chainkicker
22nd Aug 2006, 10:30
Very nice video...
Anyone know what the soundtrack is?? Sounds a bit like Evanescence but i'm not familiar with all their work :rolleyes:

rusty_y2k2
22nd Aug 2006, 10:32
There was a great video I saw which was done to the tune of Madonna - push me. I thought it worked wonderfully!

Actually, here's the vid - the latter part is absolutely great with the chase:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBrwkTqjMHo


And for what it's worth, I've seen that Swiss video with a different soundtrack before so it's probably just been added by whoever upped the movie.

Edit: Chainkicker - it is evanescence

fantaman
22nd Aug 2006, 11:27
''The Chase'' video is a French AF recruitment video :ok:

Taffer
22nd Aug 2006, 11:35
'The Chase' video features excerpts from 'Les Chevaliers Du Ciel', a wonderfully cheesy French 'Top Gun'-style movie released last year. It's worth watching for the excellent aerial cinematography, and also the US female exchange pilot performing a striptease. :8

Both 'The Chase' and 'Swiss AF' videos can be downloaded in higher resolution at http://www.patricksaviation.com

There's quite a few good movies there - most are, quite depressingly, French-made.


On the issue of the cost of camera mounts - surely some British ingenuity would overcome this predicament, i.e. the use of a camcorder and copious amounts of gaffer tape?

Phil_R
22nd Aug 2006, 18:55
Hi,

Chavaliers du Ciel caused quite a stir in the film and TV industry when it was produced in '04, because it's the first time since Top Gun that any production company has been willing to spend enough money to "gaffer tape" a camera onto a military aircraft. The cameras were mounted in repurposed fuel tanks and the camera system was manufactured, doubtless at pan-galactic expense, by Dassault Aviation.

My experience with this is limited to handholding in a helicopter, occasional Tyler mount stuff (typically used in American news-copters, and the like) and watching, in awe, from afar, as someone mounts a Wescam stabilised head on a Jetranger. The problem is not physically making it work, the problem is making it legal, insurable, and safe, especially on a high performance aircraft. I can't even stand a tripod on the floor of a helicopter without incurring a lot of paperwork.

The other problem is that if you are shooting video and you want to perform a high-G manouvre, it tends to pull the tape away from the head drum and give you a duff recording. Film cameras do better but it still needs an enclosure controlled for pressure, temperature and humidity.

Generally very tricky to do.

Sorry to waffle on, hope it's of some interest.

Phil

Bolk
22nd Aug 2006, 20:10
Still prefer that Lynx vid from 669 AAC. Could only be done by the Brits, eh?:ok:
Edited to add a link for those who missed it last time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbzKmP9bUqk

Spugford
22nd Aug 2006, 22:26
Still prefer that Lynx vid from 669 AAC. Could only be done by the Brits, eh?:ok:
Edited to add a link for those who missed it last time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbzKmP9bUqk

Sorry Bolk, but Swiss, whoever... that vid is awesome, prob the best I've ever seen and no rotary beast (not even the 'mighty AAC') is going to top it. Captures all that is great about a great selection of jets; Hornet, Mirage and F-5. Does it get any better?!

Harsh, but you must admit, ultimately fair.

Bolk
23rd Aug 2006, 11:27
Ok Spug....I grant you the pointy things are pretty impressive but the AAC vid made me smile as well. Reminded me of the feel good factor from working on the 'hydraulic palm tree'!

I do remember seeing some ridiculously impressive low level FJ video from somewhere sandy... shot by the French I think?

chiglet
23rd Aug 2006, 18:51
I remember the Bucc "deployment" to Gib....Music, van Gellis "To the Unknown Man". :ok:
watp,iktch

cooheed
23rd Aug 2006, 22:45
Have just uploaded this one...

Probably not the one you're looking for Bolk but cute anyway :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7Q5yednhqQ

Taffer
23rd Aug 2006, 23:19
I do remember seeing some ridiculously impressive low level FJ video from somewhere sandy... shot by the French I think?


I think you're looking for this one...

..http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/Guest/50/

...French Mirages bigging it up in Chad.

Also, check out the Pumas in Chad video....nice cinematography, plus a Muse soundtrack.

Bolk
27th Aug 2006, 17:43
Thanks Taffer. You're right, the Puma video is impressive. Liked the soundtrack as well!

http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/kerva%26euml%3Bl/406/

:ok:

Conan the Librarian
27th Aug 2006, 18:43
I know at Fairford, on the RIAT video/DVDs, that they have somehow managed to bodge micro video cams into certainly at least, the Casas of the Spanish Display team, the F-15, The Mirage F.1 and the now deleted SHAR. Presumably they might spill the beans on how this was achieved and with enough change from £100,000 to go and enjoy a cup of tea. Ask Airsound, who could point you in the right direction. He was the commentator for all of these vidclips, I think. http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/smilies/badteeth.gif
:}

Conan

Phil_R
27th Aug 2006, 20:02
Hi,

Is that "into" or "onto"

I understand that the cockpits are conditioned to shirt-sleeve pressure and temperature anyway so the tech issues are simpler, even if the safety ones aren't. Slinging things under the wings would seem to be a rather trickier proposition.

Phil

Tourist
27th Aug 2006, 21:08
Had the cameras fitted to my a/c at RIAT last year. Little things the size of a mini maglite, wired to a mini DV recorder.
Black masking tape is their fix of choice!
No probs at all.