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Flopt
13th Jun 2009, 07:41
Only 4 at present...old pilot III [stuck on top of panel]....someone's 2nd hand 296 [yoke mounted]....generic one running the wac chart on the laptop..155xl [panel mounted....about to get demoted by a 430w.....]

Funny thing is I never once got/ felt lost in 10 yrs before I had any!!!!!

And recently I turned them all off and map read my way to a remote western queensland spot [Cooper's run], just to prove to myself I could still do it after 25yrs....

Good practice...

Flopt

morno
13th Jun 2009, 08:50
going'flyin,
Not sure where you get your info from, but you're a long way from the truth mate.

morno

goin'flyin
13th Jun 2009, 09:36
Its a little thing called SARCASM Morno.

Remember the West Ops PC12's, with switches moved from the overhead panel to lower panel, effectively converting them back to a previous series overhead panel to streamline the fleet.

morno
13th Jun 2009, 09:50
You do have a point there, that was a gripe of my own as well.

However, look where some of those switches up top have moved to in the PC-12NG's, :ok:. Back to where they originally were!

morno

goin'flyin
13th Jun 2009, 10:54
Morno, Not many switches left on the lower panel in the PC12NG, just the Ice Protection, everything else overhead.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7727/overhead.jpg

Anyway, enough of a thread drift.

The picture - where are we? (not too difficult)

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6730/img0872b.jpg

Jamair
13th Jun 2009, 11:37
Grog - can't tell you definitively (not being the boss), but my best guess is
A: the whole fleet has them, but not all the fleet has Proline; and
B: saves switching GPS / PFD systems from their primary purpose by having a dedicated checklist with a remote trigger and audio output into the ICS.

Can tell you it works real well though.:ok:

Chuck, anything smaller than 10" doesn't count as a real screen :E (one of those little 'uns is the ESIS, t'other is the radio control /display head.)

OpsNormal
13th Jun 2009, 12:20
Goin', Male'.

goin'flyin
13th Jun 2009, 13:25
Ops, Correct

WIKI44
13th Jun 2009, 15:46
This has got to be the best thread on PPrune. Keep it up guys!

Makes you realize there is nothing better out there....

Arnold E
14th Jun 2009, 02:48
Tried to attach a photo but dont know how to do it, can anyone give an idiots guide on how to do it
Ta:ok:

Bullethead
14th Jun 2009, 03:23
G'day Arnold,

First you have to have the picture hosted somewhere like here

Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket (http://photobucket.com/)

Then when you've done that copy the URL for it and in the reply to post box you'll see a bunch of little icons accross the top of the typing area. Hover over the one with a pic of a mountain and you'll see it says 'insert image', click on it and paste the previously copied URL in there but make sure you don't get two lots of http:// or it won't work.

Preview it to see if it worked and away you go.

Regards,
BH.

Arnold E
14th Jun 2009, 04:07
This photo was taken a while ago and its a bit more advanced now but I thought I would share a glass Rvhttp://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww84/Pin37/GlassRV-1.jpg

Arnold E
14th Jun 2009, 04:15
Still dont think I've got this image posting under control yet. Image filled the whole screen and didnt leave any room for text. The pic was the recommended size, so how do you make it physically smaller or move so you can add text?

Arnold E
14th Jun 2009, 05:54
EFIS is Grand Rapids and centre stack is all Garmin. There is no auto-pilot fitted, I'm not going to let some silicone chip fly my aeroplane.:ok::ok:

VH-XXX
14th Jun 2009, 08:23
Worth a look!

YouTube - de Havilland Beaver Plane Crash at Lake Hood (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVwlodvWh7w)

DeathStar-Alpha
14th Jun 2009, 08:47
Wow! talk about a close call!!... for the camera man I mean

Barkly1992
14th Jun 2009, 10:57
Where, what and when?

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/vh-grumpy/0017_F18_SCA.jpg

kingRB
14th Jun 2009, 11:39
Worth a look!

YouTube - de Havilland Beaver Plane Crash at Lake Hood (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVwlodvWh7w)

hooooollly **** !!!!

:eek:

Warbo
14th Jun 2009, 12:31
Barkly,
Where? Post #2235 (http://www.pprune.org/dg-p-general-aviation-questions/238969-more-photos-112.html#post3799462) in the More Photos thread
When? 28th Dec 07

And yes, I know, nobody likes a smart-arse...

ForkTailedDrKiller
14th Jun 2009, 13:21
Barkly, do you only got one photo? :E

The F/A18 was in fact assigned to CHOGM at it is MCY - late February 2002 for a media event. It was not landing or taking off but a fly past for cameras

And yes, I know, nobody likes a smart-arse...

Is that why I got no friends?

Dr :8

Barkly1992
14th Jun 2009, 21:43
Forgot that I had posted it - must be the aging process.

Balthazar_777
14th Jun 2009, 23:51
Goin'flyin,

re post #5002.

Is it Male, in the Maldives?

Cheers.

Oops, just saw that i am a little late with my answer.

Sarcs
15th Jun 2009, 03:23
What is pretty easy, but who and where might be a little harder?!!


http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr184/DeePee_album/File0002-1.jpg?t=1245035111

A Mer ship captain showing some pretty awesome skills:D:ok: to rescue a yacht in distress 300nm offshore from where?


http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr184/DeePee_album/DSC_0051.jpg?t=1245035866

cheers

Sarcs

compressor stall
15th Jun 2009, 12:52
Skippers' Braz at Newman?

I'd say 300nm off the Australian Coast :p

How's it going up there? :ok:

Sarcs
15th Jun 2009, 18:55
compressor stall Not too bad mate! So are you back from down south for a little while? Skippers and Braz is spot on:D but I'm pretty sure they don't go into Newman RPT. Hint:" I left on this a/c never to return.... "(too easy for you CS).:=

I'd say 300nm off the Australian Coast


In hindsight it was probaly closer to 500nm and the closest point of land was Harvey Bay (that was where we ultimately took on fuel).

cheers and beers:O

Sarcs
18th Jun 2009, 00:17
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr184/DeePee_album/IMG_0193_2.jpg?t=1245283907

Couple of these ol'boys came through CS the other day. This pic was taken after he'd done a touch'n'go. Not quite as impressive as the F111s but not too dusty either!

cheers

Sarcs

Barkly1992
18th Jun 2009, 08:40
Sarcs

He has drop tanks and missiles - where do you think he was off to and where was the tanker?

Joker 10
18th Jun 2009, 09:06
Outbound Dawin then Tindal Home bound direct Willitown

VH-XXX
19th Jun 2009, 11:15
Tiger Moth forced landing.

Check out what happens at the 40 second mark!

YouTube - Tiger Moth - Forced Landing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6reIUPfNjw&feature=related)

Ultralights
19th Jun 2009, 11:31
hmmmm cow burgers... nice swerve around the telegraph pole!

Peter Fanelli
23rd Jun 2009, 11:06
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s295/bigt57/P6120300.jpg


http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s295/bigt57/P6120305.jpg

Wanderin_dave
23rd Jun 2009, 11:47
PHWOAR!! :ok:

You win.

Cloud Basher
23rd Jun 2009, 12:48
PF,
Nice piccies, where and when were they taken?

Cheers
CB

Peter Fanelli
23rd Jun 2009, 12:53
Lebanon, Tennessee about 10 days ago.
It's the Yankee Lady, the one lucky to escape the fire in the Yankee museum a few years back.

Another one.


http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s295/bigt57/P6120303.jpg

gassed budgie
23rd Jun 2009, 14:05
Lebanon, Tennessee about 10 days ago


Wasn't there 10 days ago, more like 18 months ago now. Was there for two days (Mt. Juliet actually) and it seemed like every Herc the USAF had ever possessed was flying in, out and around Lebanon.
Not sure why they were there, but I've never seen so many C-130's gathered all in the one place all at the same time!

Peter Fanelli
23rd Jun 2009, 15:54
The C130's have a base at Nashville Intn'l (KBNA) and yes they do do a lot of flying locally. There's also a National Guard base at Smyrna (KMQY) about 20 miles south east of Nashville so we get a lot of Blackhawks buzzing around also.

compressor stall
27th Jun 2009, 08:50
http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu353/stallie001/aviation/_DSC4548.jpg

Jamair
27th Jun 2009, 10:44
:D Holy crap - someone got a pic of the TL refuellers hard at work!!!:eek::eek:

Chimbu chuckles
27th Jun 2009, 10:51
The one on the left is his Mrs:ok:

Chadzat
27th Jun 2009, 11:22
Rolling a drum over to the aircraft looks easy compared with having to roll those two out of the way TO GET TO the drums!

Peter Fanelli
27th Jun 2009, 12:04
Why are those A380's parked on the fuel dump?

kingRB
27th Jun 2009, 12:34
clearly way off PF.

The nose section on those is much more attractive than the A380!

ForkTailedDrKiller
28th Jun 2009, 07:21
Where was the Fork-tailed Doctor Killer yesterday?

Dr :8

Arriving
mdkjLDxlCaQ

Departing
Y26oBfYhUvA

maverick22
28th Jun 2009, 07:42
Runway 22, Longreach International Airport.

Too easy!

ForkTailedDrKiller
28th Jun 2009, 07:46
Geez, I wonder what gave it away? :bored:

Dr :8

PS: They get harder!

Jabawocky
28th Jun 2009, 12:43
http://file049b.bebo.com/4/large/2009/06/28/12/4525920200a11120319521l.jpg

http://file049b.bebo.com/4/large/2009/06/28/12/4525920200a11120319500l.jpg

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KAWOBAT
28th Jun 2009, 12:59
Awesome. Truly awesome Jaba!

Thanks for sharing mate :ok:

j3pipercub
28th Jun 2009, 13:22
Nice one Jaba, just watch out for that mob in the hangar next door :}

Dixons Cider
28th Jun 2009, 17:46
Why are those A380's parked on the fuel dump?

HAHAAAAaaaa!!! Awesome PF, the best one I've seen all week! :ok:

Peter Fanelli
28th Jun 2009, 19:33
I mentioned a fire at the Yankee museum in my post re the B-17's
Don't know if it made the news in oz but here are pictures of the fire if any of you didn't see it.

Local Hangar: Yankee Air Museum - Picture Page (http://www.localhangar.com/cgi-bin/clubs/pictures_pages.pl?POP=yes&CLUBNO=3&reason=show_page&PAGEID=211)

It is kind of old news, was back in 2004

ForkTailedDrKiller
28th Jun 2009, 21:35
Dropped in here for morning tea on Saturday.

Dr :8

Arrival
OhVnGmqEGpY

Departure
13QU3j7vh6I

bentleg
28th Jun 2009, 22:26
Where?

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k129/bentleg/12237899.jpg

Atlas Shrugged
28th Jun 2009, 23:13
Cobar.

Lookin' green too I must say.....

VH-XXX
28th Jun 2009, 23:54
RUT, now there's a blast from the past!

Nice work Jaba, you didn't bother to tell me about such news!

Any news from the flight test?

This almost warrants it's own thread.

ForkTailedDrKiller
29th Jun 2009, 00:01
Nice work Jaba, you didn't bother to tell me about such news! Any news from the flight test? This almost warrants it's own thread

Yeah, "The Alfoil Parrot takes flight"! :E

Dr :8

j3pipercub
29th Jun 2009, 00:09
Aww c'mon Doc, you just a little jealous that it goes quicker than yours...:}

PyroTek
29th Jun 2009, 00:43
Hey doc, hate to burst your bubble, but if the Jab was the Plastic Parrot... wouldn't the -10 be say... the Alfoil Hawk? or something a bit faster than a parrot? :ok:

Maybe the Alfoil Ibis would suit better, with it's home aerodrome in mind.:}
:ok:Pyro

ForkTailedDrKiller
29th Jun 2009, 02:23
Aww c'mon Doc, you just a little jealous that it goes quicker than yours...http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/badteeth.gif

J3, that is yet to be tested - and NOT likely! :E

Dr :8

slackie
29th Jun 2009, 03:42
Jaba...gotta say I was a little nervous seeing the -10 taxiing around with the pitot cover on!!

Wanderin_dave
29th Jun 2009, 03:47
Jaba, given the position of RUT in the background, that 10 has gotta be a Critt built example..... In other words she'll be an absolute beauty!!!



----Right, i'm at home and can see the vid now. Clearly it is a Critt built example. Good work and blue skies! :ok:

Arnold E
29th Jun 2009, 12:08
Looks good Jaba, guess you've got that RV grin now.:ok:

Flopt
29th Jun 2009, 13:46
Too easy Doc...Ambo Station ...Near Muttaburra....did I hear you under-shooting?........what happened to FTDK sops....stabilized approaches?, etc... why didn't you use the cross strip, and fly around the cattle crate on final?.........would have saved you all that taxiing!!!!!!!!!

Flopt

Jamair
29th Jun 2009, 13:53
:ok: Ripper Jaba - I'll expect a vist (and a fly!) in the near future ;)

Here is a dark-night, black-hole remote area arrival on a bush strip lit with kero flares.....

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Those first lights are not the strip - they are car headlights.

Jabawocky
29th Jun 2009, 14:09
Thanks folks.......... And yes the pitot cover was on, we were cleaning/bedding brakes and making sure it behaved in a open space.

Yes it was RUT and the Critters input was invaluable! :ok: WE DID BUILD this one, unlike a number who just never will and need him to make it happen. There is nobody better around to keep your project professional if you are building an RV.

Sorry XXX............ been so busy this last week!:sad:

DeathStar-Alpha
29th Jun 2009, 20:42
Jamair- I have no idea where that is, but what an amazing video! thanks for posting.. lookslike the doco you used to see on navy pilots doing night traps on aircraft carriers :ok:

D-Star

Cloud Basher
29th Jun 2009, 21:16
Quote:
Aww c'mon Doc, you just a little jealous that it goes quicker than yours...http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/badteeth.gif

J3, that is yet to be tested - and NOT likely! :E

Dr http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/nerd.gif
Doc,
I know three RV-10 owners and all of them will easily do at least 175kts at 75% power.:O One has an 0540 the other two IO540's and all make 260HP or maybe a bit more:E

Jabba, be interested to know the figures when you get the spats on...

Cheers
CB

slackie
29th Jun 2009, 21:45
Nice "standard" overhead rejoining procedures there Dr F!:ok: I always find it comforting that the ponies respond when low on FNA!!

Jabawocky
29th Jun 2009, 22:06
Jamair......... Thats the best vid we have seen so far!:}

You did deliver on your promise!

CB......... yes we have lots of speed brakes out at the moment! Still does mid 150's so at low level. I expect your mates numbers are on the money :ok:

morno
30th Jun 2009, 00:30
Jamair, I'm going either Walhollow Downs, or Calvert Hills, :E.

morno

Capt Fathom
30th Jun 2009, 03:09
There are not too many things in aviation more dangerous than this combination:

an aeroplane
an audience
and a video camera

:(

ForkTailedDrKiller
30th Jun 2009, 07:38
I know three RV-10 owners and all of them will easily do at least 175kts at 75% power

Not according to the Critter, but what would he know!

Dr :8

PS: The FTDK is in the shop as we speak, being tuned and rigged to perfection in preparation for the inevitable showdown with the Retard Vehicle! :E

VH-XXX
30th Jun 2009, 09:47
I find that rather amusing Doctor.

Didn't you realise that everyone is an RV expert, even those that have never set foot in one.

Cloud Basher
30th Jun 2009, 15:18
FTDK,
Don't know the Critter and I will bow to his experience, I haven't built any! I have flown in two RV-10's whilst I have been here in the States and both TAS'd at over 175 but the owners both said they plan on 175. The third (that I am only taking the owners word for) TAS's at over 180 and I am inclined to believe him as it only had a basic VFR panel and is very light.

I have also spoken with the owner of this one:

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii292/Nards22/Misc%20US%20aircraft/P3201275.jpg
and he said he also plans on 175. He has a very nice full glass IFR panel (sorry don't have any photos of the panel in this one.)

Anyway I guess we will see what Jabas does:ok: Out of curiosity what do you plan on in the FTDK?

Cheers
CB

ForkTailedDrKiller
30th Jun 2009, 23:25
Out of curiosity what do you plan on in the FTDK?

In racing trim - 180 kts! :E

Dr :8

Jabawocky
1st Jul 2009, 12:30
http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animated/anim_63.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-sick-smileys.php)


Does this some it up then Cloud Basher http://www.augk18.dsl.pipex.com/Smileys/buttkick.gif

Cloud Basher
1st Jul 2009, 14:43
Bwahahahahaha,
I reckon the Doc is reading knots when he should be reading MPH! A V35 that does 180kts should be in the Guinness Book of World Records! :}:ok::D

And Jab, it was my pleasure to have my butt kicked by a 180kt FTDK! Bwahahahahaha:p

Cheers
CB

aldee
1st Jul 2009, 17:48
Not unlike bo pilots perhaps ? :E

notmyC150v2
1st Jul 2009, 23:22
WannabeQF, I don't know if you value your life, but if you do I suggest that you don't run around calling a beloved member of someone's family "ugly". Especially not the Doc's beloved.

Gees the youngsters of today... :ugh:

Bob Murphie
2nd Jul 2009, 00:20
My experience with the v tail Bonanza's is one of a safe, solid, overbuilt, comfortable, clean and fast aircraft. I would not discount the claims being made here about their performance. I have flown both the models below and have a high regard for them.

Reference V35B Owners Manual incl supplements 1972:

8,000ft, 2700 RPM 206 MPH or 178Kts.

Reference V35TC Owners manual incl supplements 1972:

10,000ft, 2500 RPM (75% power), 208 MPH or 180.54 Kts.

Just for interest;

V35TC, 24,000ft 2500 RPM 230 MPH or 199.64 Kts.

The above is at full gross weight, so if "racing trim" excludes excess weight, and the aircraft is not tired, I would expect better performance than this. I have both books at hand if anyone needs more figures.

Peter Fanelli
2nd Jul 2009, 02:24
Yeah but who runs em at 25 or 2700 rpm?

Barkly1992
2nd Jul 2009, 03:40
"Yeah but who runs em at 25 or 2700 rpm?" - every pilot when one is in a RACE.

Also I would love to own both a V35 and an XK140 Jag - both white with red leather seats. Matching pair.

:ok:

chimbu warrior
2nd Jul 2009, 04:20
I would love to own both a V35 and an XK140 Jag

The Jag may look nice, but like all Pommie machinery, would be a chronic oil leaker.

There is only one way to stop these oil leaks, and that is to plug them with $100 notes.

Bob Murphie
2nd Jul 2009, 04:27
V35TC shows 75% power at 2500 RPM at 24,000ft. Thats a cruise speed. The book shows that as full throttle. 214 HP, 15.5 US gal per hour, (58.74 LPH).

The normally aspirated V35 is 2 Kts off the mark, so if you fly light I don't see any reason why a competent pilot can't make it achieve 180 Kts.

ForkTailedDrKiller
2nd Jul 2009, 04:48
PS: The FTDK is in the shop as we speak, being tuned and rigged to perfection in preparation for the inevitable showdown with the Retard Vehicle! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/evil.gif

This is a "Photos" thread - so here is a pic I took this morning of the FTDK in the workshop being prepared for the duel with the RV10 (Retard Vehicle Mk10)!

http://www.fototime.com/52AC6505F6E1404/standard.jpg

Its actually an interesting comparison. The RV10 is very close in pax/load carrying and performance to the BE33/35 (if a tad slower!). That is to be expected because the 10 has a few less ponies and it leaves its dangly bits on display the whole time :E. The empty weight of the FTDK is about 250 kg more than the RV10, cause the Beech is built like a brick ****house and the RV is built outta alfoil!

If you want an aeroplane with that sort of capability, a new RV10 or a low time, well equipped BE33/35 will cost you about the same $$.

Out of curiosity what do you plan on in the FTDK?

For the record, I generally fly for a good compromise of speed/range/fuel burn. At 10,000 ft, 2300 rpm/21" (about 65% power) the FTDK will TAS 162 kts and burn 50 L/hr.

I dont understand your obssession with the Bonanza, they are old, and hideously ugly and dangerous!

Obsession? Nah, after 600+ hrs in the FTDK, I just like them and Mrs Dr doesn't like to fly in anything else! I have time in most of the common singles, so I have some base for comparison. For work I probably should have a C206, but had my numbers come up on Tuesday night I would have been on the first flight to Wichita to order a G36!

Old? The FTDK is a 77 model with 3300 hrs on the clock. A nice example of the breed. The Bonanza line has been in continuous production for 60+ years so they must be doing something right!

Ugly? Fortunately for you, Wannabe, beauty is in the eye of the beholder - else you might never get laid!

Dangerous! Probably the most flexible, easy to handle, vice-less aeroplane in its class that I have flown. Its neutral stability in the rolling plane, however, makes it quite unforgiving of poor basic flying technique or lazy instrument scan!

Not unlike bo pilots perhaps ? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/evil.gif

Old, ugly and dangerous! Yep, that would be me!

Yeah but who runs em at 25 or 2700 rpm?

Where does this rubbish come from?

2500 rpm? Yep, me if I have a particular need (eg to fly in the Flight Levels), or if I am in a hurry - as does probably every other Bonanza pilot around.

2700 rpm? Not, not generally - but there is no real reason not to do so. The IO520BA in the FTDK is certified for 2700 rpm continuous. I run it at 2700 for every take-off - that would be real scarey if it was a bit fragile!

If the engine is operated within the manufacturer's limits with respect to rpm, a far more important consideration is CHT and to a lesser extent EGT!

One thing is for certain, some time in the next couple of weeks a video will be posted in this thread. It will show one of three things:

1) The FTDK cruising past the RV10 (most likely senario!)
2) The RV10 creeping past the FTDK (least likely senario!). In which case I will have to change my ID in here!
3) The FTDK and the RV10 side-by-side, locked in a stalemate until someone cracks!

Anyone want to run a book? :E

Dr :8

Cardinal Puf Puf Puf
2nd Jul 2009, 05:55
What is bravery??

http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae59/4friedchickens/A330-1.jpg

Flying below an A330!!

slackie
2nd Jul 2009, 10:19
Hey Dr....I see your workshop photo...and raise you my workshop photo!!
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs009.snc1/4454_106689441562_707881562_2712183_6667560_n.jpg
This is the second time the wings have been off in a little under 4 months!!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2549/3670936572_e34420134c.jpg?v=0
And the second time I've seen INSIDE the wings!!!!!

HINT: Never buy Randolf products!!!!

Peter Fanelli
2nd Jul 2009, 10:51
Damn MS Flight Sim wank!
Isn't that cause for a ban in here?

Ultralights
2nd Jul 2009, 11:12
http://pamuva1.smugmug.com/photos/93595079_n4QwU-L.jpg
My old workshop.


my New workshop
http://pamuva1.smugmug.com/photos/251129336_ysrzs-L.jpg
work varies a bit.
http://pamuva1.smugmug.com/photos/263247825_Jg4Rc-L.jpg

j3pipercub
2nd Jul 2009, 12:13
WannabeQF. You better be joking mate, cos if that actually is you and you have a go at the FTDK on the same page, you quite simply lose all credibility

Mr Milk
2nd Jul 2009, 12:23
Yeah Pprune- where the cream of the aviation industry compare their battle yarns.....

I wonder how many on here actually have anything to do with the industry and are not just geeks at home playing computer games.

nightmode
2nd Jul 2009, 13:43
The thrust/drag ratio of the trolley with the jet on top wouldn't be too bad I imagine. Always wanted a go-kart like that ! :)
Nice hangar pics!

slackie
2nd Jul 2009, 20:09
Yeh...I think Ultralights won that p!ssing competition!!:ok::} Particularly if he owns the hardware in the photos!!!! Well done! And count me in for one of those go-karts too!

Clearedtoreenter
2nd Jul 2009, 21:40
One thing is for certain, some time in the next couple of weeks a video will be posted in this thread. It will show one of three things:

1) The FTDK cruising past the RV10 (most likely senario!)
2) The RV10 creeping past the FTDK (least likely senario!). In which case I will have to change my ID in here!
3) The FTDK and the RV10 side-by-side, locked in a stalemate until someone cracks!


When you guys get this sad little spat out of the way, there's a nice little Mooney here ready to take on the winner...;)

Chimbu chuckles
3rd Jul 2009, 02:47
Now that is funny. Some time ago I did some formation flying in the FTDKer, with FTDKer's brother in his (lovely) Mooney.

Which, of the RV or FTDKer, is fastest remains a disputed, only by Jaba:E, point for now but nothing is more certain in life than the Mooney coming a distant 3rd.:ok:

Chimbu chuckles
3rd Jul 2009, 03:46
those things cruise at 220

BWAHAHAHAHAHA:rolleyes:

I think you will find there is ONE (Turbo'd) model of Mooney that MIGHT hit 220 KTAS at FL250 if everything is working perfectly.

Your average Mooney is good for 155-160KTAS.

Ultralights
3rd Jul 2009, 04:20
Dont forget Chimbu, thats a Flight Sim Mooney!

j3pipercub
3rd Jul 2009, 04:39
yeah, c'mon Wannabe, show him another vid of you doin 220 in the mooney...

ForkTailedDrKiller
3rd Jul 2009, 06:03
sorry, i only fly the heavy metal.

As in heavy metal aeroplane paperweight?

P51D
3rd Jul 2009, 06:09
I'm with you FTDK - go the Bonnies, cruisin past a Trinidad. http://http://s749.photobucket.com/albums/xx140/nickbelyea/?action=view&current=SIBTOSBORO.jpg

notmyC150v2
3rd Jul 2009, 06:18
sorry, i only fly the heavy metal.

Probably one of the saddest and yet funniest posts on pprune ever.

When are school holidays over??

Chimbu chuckles
3rd Jul 2009, 06:50
Hey WannabeQF here is a hint - those of us who DO fly 'the heavy metal' don't EVER refer to it as such...in fact we are mostly deeply embarrassed by RT phraseology that requires us to include the phrase 'heavy' and, outside of the yanks, don't seem to use it much...except maybe on line checks:ouch:

Might help you not blow your 'cover' next time you want to 'contribute':ok:

Its school holiday time again?:ugh::{

Ultralights
3rd Jul 2009, 07:30
now this is funny!

D-J
3rd Jul 2009, 07:59
Anyone else wondering if Wannabe has flown a real airplane? :rolleyes:

But to give him credit I don't think I could keep ahead of said mooney at 220kts :}

slackie
3rd Jul 2009, 08:11
Anyone else wondering if Wannabe has flown a real airplane?
Of course he has...the Microsoft 747...haven't you been paying attention!?

RadioSaigon
3rd Jul 2009, 09:03
...sorry, i only fly the heavy metal...

Since bloody when, troll? Wasn't it only last week you were fizzing at the bung because you didn't get biffed out for a colour-vision issue? And only a week or 3 ago that the mods gave you a cease & desist for pretty much nagging on the same thing?

And now you "only fly the heavy metal..." and are seem here ridiculing the statements of pilots you couldn't hope to match in your wildest dreams, quoting figures for aircraft you have never even seen for real -beyond flight sims of course...

Heads up kiddie. You are known, as is your other persona here too, incidentally. Get your hand off it child. :}

b_sta
3rd Jul 2009, 09:39
Must have been one hell of an accelerated program to be flying the 'heavies' already :}

PyroTek
3rd Jul 2009, 11:45
Must have been one hell of an accelerated program to be flying the 'heavies' already

Microsoft Flight Simulator??

:ok::}Pyro

Ultralights
3rd Jul 2009, 12:08
Back on topic before the school kids take over. damn, only wish it was Heavy metal... oh well, ill have to stick with the real i guess.

http://pamuva1.smugmug.com/photos/122668859_hhKkt-L.jpg

guess what!
http://pamuva1.smugmug.com/photos/120450654_CXoXf-L.jpg

TYE? TYU?
http://pamuva1.smugmug.com/photos/120450596_c2twg-L.jpg

finally, a real aircraft!
http://pamuva1.smugmug.com/photos/120450741_7Xdvq-L.jpg

Clearedtoreenter
3rd Jul 2009, 13:10
Your average Mooney is good for 155-160KTAS

True maybe for the J versions... With just 4 cylinders on 33 litres per hour, that really is not unimpressive. Tell ya what, do it with just 45 litres of fuel in the tanks - then make it a minimum of a 30 minutes legal flying.

OK, so those guzzling 6 pots don't like a fuel restriction? Will just have to bring out the K or if we really want to leave em for dead we wont need Wannabe's 220kt Acclaim, the R will be quite adequate to see off those two...:)

Mooney - still unbeatable! This is what the winner (of those two) will see..


http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj238/Tandate/Mooney.jpg

Chimbu chuckles
3rd Jul 2009, 17:56
Won't the winner be out front?:confused::E:ok:

Nothing wrong with Mooneys...except the company seems to have a revolving door policy with bankruptsy:uhoh:

tinpis
4th Jul 2009, 01:01
Enough Bonanzas and ugly things.

http://www.cessna195.org/gallery/photo/C190_1952.jpg
http://www.cessna195.org/gallery/photo/N1LA_1.jpg
http://www.cessna195.org/gallery/photo/pt-zpn_2.jpg
http://www.cessna195.org/gallery/photo/N1558D_twin.jpg

Peter Fanelli
4th Jul 2009, 03:12
Since you're obviously into simulation instead of the real thing maybe you should invest in one of these. It might help your vision issues as well.

Completely unacceptable :mad:

Much Ado

P51D
4th Jul 2009, 03:45
Sorry about previous post lads - in support of FTDK
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx140/nickbelyea/SIBTOSBORO-1.jpg?t=1246678915

prospector
4th Jul 2009, 03:48
tinpis,
Mean looking machine, would have to have very strong, or pehaps very elastic wing tips, vision on ground would be non existent!!

mingalababya
4th Jul 2009, 04:15
Ultralights (http://www.pprune.org/members/24911-ultralights), is that twin a Baron? And what gauge is it that's on the left engine?

Peter Fanelli
4th Jul 2009, 05:16
That would be a Duchess and the gauge on the left engine would be the outside air temp gauge mounted on the windshield.

Dixons Cider
4th Jul 2009, 06:00
Thank you tin! Something interesting to look at, at last!
Bo's and electric gimic's is a tad tiring :}

Ultralights
4th Jul 2009, 07:05
its the OAT guage. and this would be the Dutchy.
you can see it here from the outside.
http://pamuva1.smugmug.com/photos/122668834_6zzrx-L.jpg

and a real pilots panel. none of this unreliable GPS/Laptop/palmpilot crap. :}
http://pamuva1.smugmug.com/photos/122668848_tjUbf-L.jpg

djpil
4th Jul 2009, 07:49
from slackie: HINT: Never buy Randolf products!!!!
Randolph fabric and dope would be my first choice.

Arnold E
4th Jul 2009, 08:09
Nice duchy, whats the call sign, might be some of my handy work in that dash.
The wot is. is it Minicab?

Ultralights
4th Jul 2009, 08:17
For something a little different, i had a couple of friends just return from a few weeks riding into the Red centre. somewhere west of Birdsville, they came across this!

http://danielj7768.smugmug.com/photos/578085321_gxerq-O.jpg

http://danielj7768.smugmug.com/photos/578085219_6jxmU-O.jpg

http://danielj7768.smugmug.com/photos/578085371_QtSrh-O.jpg


while im at it, Eyre Creek up close and personal.
http://danielj7768.smugmug.com/photos/578082453_jySfN-O.jpg

regardless of what some thing and say about Mr Smith, its good to see him out there enjoying life! not stuck at home bitter and twisted. the lucky bugger!:ok:


oh, and the Duchess is IPH.

205jack
4th Jul 2009, 09:34
Hey Tinni
Nice photos. What is the turbine taildragger.Looks early 180/185 ish to me. It also looks like a good bush machine
205jack

tinpis
4th Jul 2009, 10:27
Turbine conversion of C195 used by Brazillian meat bombers

Mr. Hat
4th Jul 2009, 10:58
sorry, i only fly the heavy metal.

Its a strange comment.

I fly "heavy-ish metal" but still scour these pages for 210's and barons. There is a lot of satisfaction in being new to the industry and getting your first 210 gig or the first baron gig in the middle of nowhere. Very hard to put into words. Suppose similarly leaving highschool and getting an SO job on 140k. Not sure which is better - more than likely the SO way.

Oh well - I did it my way. More progression to come.

ForkTailedDrKiller
4th Jul 2009, 11:14
Ultralights - Psst, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but your left engine appears to be running a tad hot!

Is that what the EDM is trying to tell you?

Dr :8

Desert Flower
4th Jul 2009, 11:31
guess what!

It's a Minicab for sure!

DF.

Ultralights
4th Jul 2009, 11:33
Psst, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but your left engine appears to be running a tad hot!

Is that what the EDM is trying to tell you?


yep, noticed that, OAT at bankstown on that day was almost 40degC!
if i remember the temps stayed pretty much where they are in that pic for the entire flight, fortunately it was only Bankstown to the gong. i had an eye on it the entire flight.

Peter Fanelli
4th Jul 2009, 15:09
Ya gotta stop sticking your chewing gum on the panel.

I guess the GPS's are out of the picture to the right huh?
Box at the top of the engine stack says "GPS Status" if I read correctly.

:=

haughtney1
4th Jul 2009, 16:48
Chirps in....."I USED TO FLY HEAVY METAL!" :}

Peter Fanelli
4th Jul 2009, 17:34
I once got a car airborne back in the days when they were made of steel, does that count as flying heavy metal?

ForkTailedDrKiller
4th Jul 2009, 23:56
Chirps in....."I USED TO FLY HEAVY METAL!" http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/badteeth.gif

.... and now you fly really cool less heavy metal! :ok:

slackie
5th Jul 2009, 00:31
From djpil
Randolph fabric and dope would be my first choice.Well...Randolf WAS our first choice...applied by a very experienced guy that raved about Randolf and has used their products for the last 25-30 years. Was applied by the book. The products were supplied ex-Australia from the Australisian supplier.

We picked the aircraft up on 1 March, and within a week the fabric appeared to be lifting around the top tank (Pitts S2B), and the dope around the top fuel cap departed company. We returned the aircraft for repair. Then a few days later this occured...:eek:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3625/3688835002_d4b79d8a75.jpg?v=0

The tape lifted and the patch of dope is somewhere in the Central Hawkes Bay!!!

This is apparently not unheard of...Aviat has stopped using Randolf ceconite/Rand-o-proof/dope systems and has reported that they have had 3 similar cases reported to them in the last few months.

The Australian supplier has walked away from the problem saying that it wasn't applied properly (even though they initially offered to re-supply the products to redo the job)...but without knowing what caused the problem there is no way we're going through the same process again. THis time we're using the Superflite system.

Here's a quote from Kevin Kimball (of Pitts Model 12 fame)
Randolph over then past 6 or 8 yrs has totally changed its formulas due to both regulatory and other issues. They have added so much plasicizer to try and keep the stuff limber, that it never dries. It always stays gummy. After 1 year, you can put a piece of masking tape on it and leave a mark. The stuff balloned loose on one of the gee bee wings after 10 hrs and we recovered it with classic aero which isn't much better. The one cotton and dope job we did came to us with some 1970's randolph dope, the good stuff. It sprays different, smells different, dries different etc, from the later stuff. The old stuff met Mil spec. New does not match mil spec formulas. The pitts factory was having lots of trouble with the dope jobs over ceconite then switched to cotton and found out the the reformulated dope reacted with the reformulated fabric process and the cotton would fail punch test after 3 years. They had to eat 15 or 20 cover jobs. Then they switched back to ceconite and again had adhesion problems like those that Kurt said Stits had. Tapes have left stits jobs but not huge amounts of coatings leaving the bare fabric like dope has. So, then aviat went to the PPG system that has been in existance for nearly 15yrs. No one used it much until Superflight got an STC to use it calling it Superflight system II. So, basically, aviat uses SFsII but buys the stuff direct from a PPG dealer.

mingalababya
5th Jul 2009, 06:09
its the OAT guage. and this would be the Dutchy.


Thanks for that. Is the OAT gauge of a Duchess actually mounted on the engine cowling or am I seeing an optical illusion?

Ultralights
5th Jul 2009, 06:16
no, the OAT is actually mounted in the window. with the temp probe sticking about 2 inch into the airflow outside the window, as can be seen here
http://pamuva1.smugmug.com/photos/582267557_NtDQm-XL.jpg

205jack
5th Jul 2009, 07:37
Thanks Tinni
What a waste.meat bombs indeed
205jack

morno
5th Jul 2009, 08:14
Question. What was Dick doing out in the middle of nowhere in the first place??

morno

djpil
5th Jul 2009, 08:27
Thanks for the update slackie, very frustrating. I used classic aero 4 years ago - noticed the mix was different but the dealer apparently denied any change - held up very well so far though.
Aviat started using Superflite in the mid-90's - I did some of the certification work.
This Pitts was done in Stits about 10 years ago - didn't adhere too well, we ended up redoing the fuselage (photo taken while we were waiting for the blue so not finished).
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_tF_gjggkBjQ/SbJQqNcRifI/AAAAAAAAAsw/Hf8fHSXKwkM/s720/IMG_0266.JPG

VH-XXX
5th Jul 2009, 10:53
This should get the Doctor's juices flowing!

http://users.netconnect.com.au/~njah1/296.jpg

knox
5th Jul 2009, 11:16
more GPS fun.

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af147/boy_phantom/gpss.jpg
(http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=99369064.jpg)

tinpis
5th Jul 2009, 11:35
Vh Xxx . SA? Moomba-ish, Innaminka-ish?

VH-XXX
5th Jul 2009, 11:37
Yes in SA, but where?

the wizard of auz
5th Jul 2009, 11:41
Looked like Moonera Station.......... and I know that Van. :E
actually, on further inspection...... It doesn't look like Moonera. Maybe Tarcoola?........ I still know that Van though. :}

tinpis
5th Jul 2009, 11:42
Hah, me knows them North/South sand ridges.....lemessee, was that the salt bush where old Spider took a crap before he buggered off with the Afghan camel drivers missis in 1882.......

ForkTailedDrKiller
5th Jul 2009, 11:47
Mungerannie!

Dr :8

j3pipercub
5th Jul 2009, 12:25
Was going to say that the panel looked a bit like VH-CRN

Ultralights
5th Jul 2009, 12:29
http://users.netconnect.com.au/~njah1/296.jpg

so how accurate is that compass with the gPS right there? i know putting my 96C next to the compass on a J230 will knock it out by about 20deg.

VH-XXX
5th Jul 2009, 12:31
The Van is parked at Cowarie station in the pic.

Dr. technically you are correct. The professional "looking" setup with the elaborate sign-writing is at Mungerannie, but the Van isn't depicted there.

http://users.netconnect.com.au/~njah1\cara5.jpg

http://users.netconnect.com.au/~njah1\cara6.jpg

http://users.netconnect.com.au/~njah1\cara7.jpg


http://users.netconnect.com.au/~njah1\cara9.jpg

http://users.netconnect.com.au/~njah1\cara10.jpg

http://users.netconnect.com.au/~njah1\cara8.jpg

tinpis
5th Jul 2009, 21:48
Cowarie.. hot dang...how good it the old tin navigaterin' brain? Right slap dang west-ish of Moomby and Innaminkery

CitationJet
6th Jul 2009, 02:09
Why is the van scooting along level at 750ft at 140KIAS?

VH-XXX
6th Jul 2009, 02:59
Why is the van scooting along level at 750ft at 140KIAS?


Because it looks to be taking off and climbing at 100fpm. Don't all van's climb out at 140 knots?

rioncentu
6th Jul 2009, 03:44
Ahh Mungerannie. What a lovely spot.

Shame they have closed the strip or so I gather from the Lake Eyre post.

We dropped in for a night in April. Great pub.

Jabawocky
6th Jul 2009, 06:28
Ultralights / Forkie

Back to the Duchess and its temps...... as much as the left was probably hotter by a fair bit, as you should know, the Beech gauges can be incredibly inaccurate :eek:.

Ignorance is bliss they say!:E

Flopt
6th Jul 2009, 12:47
Fair go Chuck!

My tired clapped-out [ but rapidly getting better] 1988 M20j 205se comfortably sits on 163kts @70% between 6-9000'....but the book says 173kts @75% at 8000' in ISA....that would be flat chat by the way...firewall the lot!

Haven't tried that but it's good for them occassionally [I'm told],in moderate bursts....helps prevent glazing bores if you've been tooling around in the flight levels ,which I do occassionally [again, so I'm told].

But we did prove 6 pots climb better than 4....

Flopt ;)

ForkTailedDrKiller
6th Jul 2009, 13:05
...... as much as the left was probably hotter by a fair bit, as you should know, the Beech gauges can be incredibly inaccurate http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/eek.gif

Hot cylinder head and hot oil = hot engine!

Dr :8

slackie
6th Jul 2009, 20:08
Hot cylinder head and hot oil = hot engine!
Thanks Doc...wondered what they meant!:ok::};)

Jabawocky
6th Jul 2009, 21:55
Not always so Forkie. That pic is at 1500' and may be just after takeoff. A CHT of just over 400F on a hot day may well be OK. Oil temp is about 205-210 so lets just say about 97C. Again this is OK and good for getting rid of water content.

Now the other engine........it could be that the instrument connections are not good and its just as hot! or hotter!!!:eek:

My point is, now that you have seen how grossly far out the Beech gauges are able to be when you have proper engine monitoring, you really can not judge much at all from that pic. It is quite possible those gauges are all correct and one is genuinely hot, but how sure are you!

J

VH-XXX
7th Jul 2009, 00:16
What are the chances that BOTH the CHT and OIL temps are dodgey?

We don't know the story, the engine might be very tired and on condition, just waiting for the unsuspecting newly endorsed PPL pilot to jump on the controls before it fails spectacularly.

goin'flyin
7th Jul 2009, 01:50
RE IPH - Could also be that the left cowl flap on that particular duchie tends to creep from fully open towards half all on its lonesome. Look - no hands. :)

I'm also guessing from the parking position of the exterior photo at Bankstown (outside the old schofields building) it was taken quite some time ago, and the aircraft is now very limited in who flies it, and its nice engines. Owner has spent plenty on it, and its certainly no "flying school aircraft".

Atlas Shrugged
7th Jul 2009, 03:24
and its certainly no "flying school aircraft".

Can't really call a Duchess an "Aircraft" anyway ;)

the wizard of auz
7th Jul 2009, 14:32
What are the chances that BOTH the CHT and OIL temps are dodgey?

We don't know the story, the engine might be very tired and on condition, just waiting for the unsuspecting newly endorsed PPL pilot to jump on the controls before it fails spectacularly.
Or indeed it could just be one engine is leaned far more than the other. (trying to match up the levers instead of the gauges??)

tinpis
7th Jul 2009, 20:14
Thats a neat looking little hairyplane XXX What issit?
Does it come in taildragger and can you get it with proper clocks?

HardCorePawn
7th Jul 2009, 22:14
Judging by the look (and the names of the pics :8)... its a Cirrus SR-20 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirrus_SR20)

Jabawocky
8th Jul 2009, 00:34
XXX, :D:D;)

An SR20 with a TAS of 176 knots :}:}:}

Who are you trying to kid!

Did anyone else notice the trend bars?

Seems XXX was actually diving down from a greater height with iPhone in hand, pulled up at 6600 with 5 deg nose up, and look at the altitude trend bar, shooting way higher, and the airspeed shooting down.......

Nice try there :ok:

Your later pic with a TAS around 145 is far more believable.....as this lines up with my SR20 owner friends figures.

J:E

VH-XXX
8th Jul 2009, 01:23
Your friends probably have the old pre-2007 model, it's slower than the new one.

Of course the speed is coming down, it's climbing at 500fpm!

Can't beat that at 45 lph.

VH-XXX
8th Jul 2009, 01:35
Don't worry Owen, he's just hurting because he's burning 65 litres per hour at the moment.

I guess that's easy for fuel planning though.

1 hour = $100.
2 hours = $200
and so on......

Horatio Leafblower
8th Jul 2009, 02:13
So XXX... you're telling us a Cub can keep up with your SR20? :eek:

Frank Arouet
8th Jul 2009, 02:31
And it's not a Cub buddy. Good photo though.:)

Capt Fathom
8th Jul 2009, 02:49
Horatio,

You need a copy of this: JANE'S ALL THE WORLD'S AIRCRAFT (http://jawa.janes.com/public/jawa/index.shtml)

:E

Frank Arouet
8th Jul 2009, 04:12
Now that takes the "short wing Piper" to a new dimension.

Desert Flower
8th Jul 2009, 04:20
Post #5169 - Nuffing, a long way from home etc. etc. - Marree! ;)

DF.

Wanderin_dave
8th Jul 2009, 04:50
And a long way from sanity if you do!!!! :}

Lot busier than my days there when it was just me and 4 milliion flies!

Desert Flower
8th Jul 2009, 06:10
Lot busier than my days there when it was just me and 4 milliion flies!

Marree has never seen so many aircraft before when Lake Eyre had water in it, & most likely wouldn't have this time if fuel was still available at YLEC.

DF.

ForkTailedDrKiller
8th Jul 2009, 08:00
Dr and Jaba, I'll take you on, on a fuel cost per kilometre basis!

Heading south from Paradise today, the "new" FTDK was getting along quite nicely, thank you!

A090, 2300 rpm/21.5" MP (about 65% power), 50 L/hr, IAS 140 kts, TAS 164 kts.

The birds have it all wrong with this flying south business!

GS = 145 kts most of the way, and Toowoomba was blowing 28 kts gusting to 33 kts - and freezing frigging cold!

Dr :8

the wizard of auz
8th Jul 2009, 10:30
Oooo, look. a Pawnee with the wings on wrong. :eek:
What a sweet old bird.

Mr Milk
8th Jul 2009, 11:01
You've flown pawnee's then XXX?

tinpis
8th Jul 2009, 11:18
Is the old Maree Hotel still there?
Had a great night there once, zooming around the ground floor on a wheeled stretcher shagging a lovely nursey.

the wizard of auz
8th Jul 2009, 11:28
XXX, dependant on what engine it was fitted with. the 235 was worse than the 160. I found the Cawlair was worse. the Agwagon and thrush were a dodle after that. :E

tinpis
8th Jul 2009, 11:47
:{ 35 years ago it was deserted

linedriva
8th Jul 2009, 16:52
Spent way too many nights at the Marree pub - most of which I struggled to remember the following day. :ok:

CFOT
8th Jul 2009, 20:47
VH-XXX
I think you'll find the 206s were too busy in the air to attract any flies. Maybe you could come out from Melbourne for the weekend in the cirrus and 'do it tough' out here again? Some of your boys have been livin the dream and working hard out here for months and you just come for visits!
BTW you should try the camp fire every night for a decent feed and a bit of atmosphere!

VH-XXX
9th Jul 2009, 00:16
CFOT, credit where credit is due to the pilots up there clocking up those big hours, but definitely a job for the single guy. My trip was just a private one, I don't work for them. As for the dirty aircraft, they were all dirty because of the bore water there which would no doubt quickly corrode anything. I notice it dries white and tastes foul. It was an entertaining weekend and I look forward to going back up there again. Didn't realise there was a campfire gathering arrangement, I thought the pilots were all shacked up in a house.

ForkTailedDrKiller
9th Jul 2009, 09:38
The FTDK is in the shop as we speak, being tuned and rigged to perfection in preparation for the inevitable showdown with the Retard Vehicle! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/evil.gif

Well the deed is done!

This afternoon I gave Jaba and the newly spatted RV-10 the length of the Hervey Bay runway headstart ...................... and beat them to Maleny VOR (86 nm) by 7 miles!

Question: Is an RV-10 quicker than a Bonanza V35B?

Answer: NO!

Dr :8

Jabawocky
9th Jul 2009, 09:41
Someone is not telling the whole story....a Forkie Porkie perhaps!

Watch this space!:}

tea & bikkies
9th Jul 2009, 10:21
Maybe, just maybe, as a suggestion, you could both count the bugs smashed on the screen, leads to the age old question, do you get wetter running or walking between point A and B when its raining?

ForkTailedDrKiller
9th Jul 2009, 11:26
Someone is not telling the whole story....

What's the whole story? Two aeroplanes flew 86 nm - one got there 7 nm ahead of the other one. End of story! :ok:

And as this is the photos thread! What do you call a group of RVs? A gaggle?

Dr :8

http://www.fototime.com/D6761C65701EE6D/standard.jpg

Politically_Blonde
9th Jul 2009, 11:40
ForkTailedDrKiller is a sciolist.

Jabawocky
9th Jul 2009, 12:00
Brave words................... I think you would find the FTDK knows a fair bit, but is a sh!t stirrer of the highest order!:}

3 Rv's and a Plastic Parrot..........:}

Ahhhh folks wait till the fairings are on, and due wx and on the same IFR plan, no testing VOR's at low level (and two orbits) and 10-20 knots difference in headwinds............... then we will see!;)

J:ok:

tinpis
9th Jul 2009, 22:16
Dunno what happened to the Maree picture. Help me out here fullas, the Marree hotel used to be guest accommodation only and the boozer was a seperate entity?

VH-XXX
9th Jul 2009, 22:36
Sorry TinPis, had an ISP problem with the pics. I'll try and put them back shortly. It's quite large set-up, perhaps the bar part used to be seperate from the accommodation / motel part...?

CFOT
9th Jul 2009, 22:57
XXX
Yes it was a good fun weekend. One of the girls from the park was leaving so I heard there were a few extra rounds for her as they TRIED to play the jukebox... and danced on the bar til all hours. As for the water - it's like battery acid - swallow too much and you end up with a bad case of Marree belly - much worse than the camel cup hangover...
The biggest downer of the whole weekend is we didn't even get to see a camel!

j3pipercub
9th Jul 2009, 23:01
Ah that photo of the hangar brings back some good memories :)

Jaba, you've got a pretty noice lookin paint job there :) But I still reckon Crits blue and silver looks nicer.

So when is the rematch? C'mon Doc, you gotta beat him fair and square ;)

VH-XXX
9th Jul 2009, 23:04
We spotted 2 Camels from the air the next day. There were a dozen or so at the races. The Jukebox went till 2:30am and a party a couple of houses away was still going at 5:30am. Speaking to a station hand he has seen a mob of 4,000 (seriously) Camels once, so there should be more out there somewhere. The bar antics including moderate punch-up were somewhat amusing. The victim was unfortunately the father of the local cop which didn't go down well.

You guys will all be talking about this 20 years from now on PPrune about the fun you were having as you pilot your A390 across the pacific, just like TinPis who is reminiscing from 35 years ago.

CFOT
9th Jul 2009, 23:45
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x268/rleelewes/P6020045b.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x268/rleelewes/P6300122b.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x268/rleelewes/P6300134b.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x268/rleelewes/P7070162b.jpg

*LIVIN THE DREAM*

Martin.Sacklage
9th Jul 2009, 23:51
Impressive to say the least!

No doubt the same dust storm that caused the VB 737 to land at Mildura a couple of weeks ago.

BEACH KING
10th Jul 2009, 00:18
ForkTailedDrKiller is a sciolist.

Well if that is the case


3 Rv's and a Plastic Parrot..........http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/badteeth.gif

That must make Jabawocky a specist!:)

Barkly1992
11th Jul 2009, 12:27
I have only posted this because Photos needs at all time to be on the first page.

I check it daily to see how JABA and the FTDK are fighting out their aeronautical egos.

Can't click through to page 2.

Chimbu chuckles
11th Jul 2009, 13:27
Barkly, Jaba and FTDK are both good mates of mine and each other - you need to learn how to recognise a little good natured banter when you see it.:ok:

Jabawocky
11th Jul 2009, 19:57
Gooday Barkly

You raise a good point, this thread should remain on the front page, so the rest of you folk should snap more pics, even if you think its boring, others may be interested! :ok:

Ok there now is a a competition brewing, just need to finish running in an engine before heading to higher levels.........

Look out Forkie.....and what did he say about the climb rate:eek::E and all on less HP and gear hanging out!

http://file049b.bebo.com/3/large/2009/07/11/19/4525920200a11206394581l.jpg

There is a friendly race on from Brisbane to Charleville next Saturday with BEACH KING....... see how we go there, as the Retard Vehicle will be loaded to the eyeballs :sad:....... and the winner will be drinking Beach King's beers on his verandah! ;)

Barkly1992
12th Jul 2009, 02:55
Chimbu

That was a joke!

I love the banter which is why I wanted it back on the front page - back again to the top gentlemen - cutlasses or pistols?

Barkly1992
12th Jul 2009, 03:08
What is this - and what happened?

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/vh-grumpy/Prunepic.jpg
:ok:

compressor stall
12th Jul 2009, 03:11
I'm guessing a Houdini replica sans motor.

Diggers Rest perchance?

Chimbu chuckles
12th Jul 2009, 03:28
Sorry...:ok:

And I pic...fun aeroplane:)

http://www.fototime.com/{E2470AC2-C93C-40A2-AB33-A9F26C246EBE}/origpict/Boeing%20Stearman.jpg

pw1340
12th Jul 2009, 04:26
Chuck,

That wouldn't be a ragwing C170 in the back ground would it?

PW

the wizard of auz
12th Jul 2009, 08:26
Hey Chuck, is that photo taken at the northern end of the airfield?. and is there a rowdy ag operator two doors down and a mad Seth Efrican across the road?. it all looks pretty familiar.

Chimbu chuckles
12th Jul 2009, 10:06
Yes...lives in same hangar as the Stearman and C180....and yes, although know nothing of the rowdy SAfrican - Carl probably does:ok:

allthecoolnamesarego
12th Jul 2009, 10:27
Saw this in cootamundra a while back.

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu65/coolnames/th_128843699_eJULB-S-1.jpg

Don't know much about it (anything actually:})
Ideas?

the wizard of auz
12th Jul 2009, 14:02
AAAh, it all makes sense now you mention Carl and the 180 (aint it a doozy. they did a wonderful job on that) say g'day to Carl and co for me. (tell him to think Mustering pilot, Daisy and air race).
the Seth Efrican L.A.M.E across the tarmac is mad, not rowdy. the rowdy guy is the Aggy (he's a little mad as well :E ) just for kicks, sit out the front of the hanger where you are and listen to the L.A.M.E talking to himself. its a giggle. Just yell out "what was that?" every now and then..... It quiets him down a little. :E

b747heavy
12th Jul 2009, 15:13
Anyone know where??? Spent a couple of months going in and out of here. Extra points if you can spot the aircraft type....lower portion of the front widow may give it away to those in the know?

http://www.me.com/ro/b747heavy/Galleries/100030/1.jpg?derivative=medium&source=web.jpg&type=medium&protocol=roap&item=galleries&asset=media&ver=12346368390001

This time was a daylight approach....did the same thing many times in the middle of a dark'n'stormy night..NOT HAPPY JAN!!! Thankful for the experience though...:ok:

b747heavy
12th Jul 2009, 15:34
A couple more whilst I am digging through photo's....

Where (which should be easy) and what type? We had just flown down from Darwin to avoid a tropical cyclone that was predicted to be heading that way...sorry for the image quality :O

http://www.me.com/ro/b747heavy/Galleries/100030/IMG_0001/web.jpg?ver=12474117860001

Does anyone know the story surrounding this? Clue: The turbine wheel that you see is from the left engine...you are looking at the right engine cowl :ugh: (I did not take this pic...it was sent to me along with a bunch of others showing the whole story and damage).

http://www.me.com/ro/b747heavy/Galleries/100030/image003/web.jpg?ver=12474118480001

b747heavy
12th Jul 2009, 15:36
Whoops...will have to check the photo size before next post...sorry about that!!

Barkly1992
13th Jul 2009, 04:31
For the record, the clear plastic flying wing was the Canberra Aero Club's entry in the 1986 Birdman Rally - came in third with a tail wind. Needed for head wind to be fully effective. Designed and built by Harvey Ritchie. Later redeveloped and taken to coffs for their rally - damaged in a storm which ruined the event.

Based on McCready's Gossamer thingo which flew across the Channel powered by the pilots legs.

Jabawocky
13th Jul 2009, 06:11
We would never have guessed that one! :D

Bit more predictable this one...........and the wings are even level! :}

http://file049b.bebo.com/5/large/2009/07/13/02/4525920200a11215004469l.jpg

ForkTailedDrKiller
13th Jul 2009, 09:09
Pretty little thing - bobby socks and all! :E

Dr :8

RadioSaigon
13th Jul 2009, 09:54
Pretty little thing - bobby socks and all! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/evil.gif

ROFPML :}

Gloves are off...

j3pipercub
13th Jul 2009, 11:47
Pretty little thing

Yeah cos the Bo is huuuugee :}

TonKat
14th Jul 2009, 05:51
Jaba

Is beachy going to subject you to the Barefoot's:ok:

BEACH KING
14th Jul 2009, 06:27
TonKat, .. Jaba can drink whatever he wishes from the vast array of alcoholic beverages (including barefoots) that will be provided for him to lessen the huge disappointment that he will (no doubt) be feeling after being comprehensively educated as to the AWSOMENESS of the Bonanza...

I, on the other hand, will be smugly enjoying quite a few Bundaberg Red Rums!! (It is winter you know).

Jabawocky
14th Jul 2009, 07:59
Not another flat earther Bonanza driver being cheeky! :E

Yes our dear mate Beachie has exposed us to the Barefoots long before they were available here in the big smoke even....... and they are quite nice!

Now the Bundy Red or even Bundy Black..............:ok:

Saturday night it is! Are you joining in TonKat?

ForkTailedDrKiller
17th Jul 2009, 12:56
The view from the office was decidedly chilly yesterday!

Dr :8

http://www.fototime.com/61AB2F227B22C9D/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/9E47C565FB5412B/standard.jpg

Horatio Leafblower
17th Jul 2009, 13:08
So... Bo approved for flight in known icing conditions is it, old son? :hmm:

slackie
17th Jul 2009, 20:17
The view from the office was decidedly chilly yesterday!
And here's me thinking that the radiant heat generated by all the Doc's triple redundancy GPS receivers was actually contributing to Global Warming!!!

Jabawocky
17th Jul 2009, 21:09
HR

You are a trouble maker!.....:} :ok:

Most likely like todays MET where it says Icing Nil.......but get the airframe cold enough and descend into some moisture and Bingo!

Will be around 0 enroute to BCV this morning.......doubt there will be any H20 around though!

Jabawocky
18th Jul 2009, 08:32
ok where.... and Jaba jnr who thinks the major light source is his responsibility!!:ugh:

http://file049b.bebo.com/13/large/2009/07/18/08/4525920200a11249272925l.jpg

http://file049b.bebo.com/13/large/2009/07/18/08/4525920200a11249272942l.jpg

http://file049b.bebo.com/0/large/2009/07/18/08/4525920200a11249277977l.jpg

VH-XXX
18th Jul 2009, 08:47
I wouldn't get away with piling the family of 4 in my recently built experimental aeroplane!

OZBUSDRIVER
18th Jul 2009, 09:02
XXX, a strange comment. You do not trust your own workmanship?:eek: Remind me not to go flying with you in your homebuilt.

Does the CASA just happily sign off on an airframe that doesn't meet basic standards of workmanship? that does say VH on the tail...er fuselage.

Jaba, anytime you want a sole for a REAL loadcheck down here in Vic...just give us a call:ok:

Arnold E
18th Jul 2009, 09:07
I'm with OZ, I'll ride with ya if you are ever in South Oz. How about a few pics inside the machine? looks great outside.:ok::ok:

slackie
18th Jul 2009, 09:28
Jaba...that's a nice looking ride...wish I had the patience (and probably skill) to build something like that!:ok:

ForkTailedDrKiller
18th Jul 2009, 09:45
So... Bo approved for flight in known icing conditions is it, old son? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/yeees.gif


Horace, that's a "flight into unkown icing" phoonomenon - clear air rhime ice! :ok:

Dr :8

VH-XXX
18th Jul 2009, 10:05
Jaba...that's a nice looking ride...wish I had the patience (and probably skill) to build something like that!http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif


Slackie...... so does Jaba!

VH-XXX
18th Jul 2009, 10:12
Does the CASA just happily sign off on an airframe that doesn't meet basic standards of workmanship? that does say VH on the tail...er fuselage.

Ozbusdriver, more interesting is your comment than mine. What am I getting at? CASA don't sign off experimental aircraft, however approved delegates do. BUT those delegates only sign off that they witnessed YOU (as the builder) perform your final inspection. In theory they are not allowed to offer advice to you (due to insurance / liabiliy etc) and they are not required to perform stage inspections, so you rock up with a fully built aircraft, perform your inspection, they give you a C of A and you fly away with no more to pay..... hopefully. The aircraft could be built with brown paper bags and elastic bands from Australia post and legally they cannot stop you from flying it. They can however impose restrictions upon you. For certified engines, it's 25 hours in the designated area and 40 for non-certified engines, however if they feel your craft *might* be unairworthy, they can assign a greater period. Once that test period is passed, you have nil restrictions, eg NVFR, IFR, etc, assuming you have the required gear.

It's the same under RAA too. They witness you perform the final inspection and you're all done.

(Slightly scary really).

aussie_hawk
18th Jul 2009, 10:32
Thought I would add a few destinations worth visiting across Oz

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v650/140/98/743693586/s743693586_1184997_1751.jpg
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v650/140/98/743693586/s743693586_1184995_22.jpg
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v650/140/98/743693586/s743693586_1184996_842.jpg
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v421/140/98/743693586/s743693586_1185052_9634.jpg
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v421/140/98/743693586/s743693586_1185053_432.jpg

All within a couple of hundred mile of each other if that helps.

gassed budgie
18th Jul 2009, 11:13
I almost never have a camera with me in the aeroplane, but this particular morning I did. Ands what's even more amazing than that, was the fact that I actually remembered to use the thing. Nothing dramatic, just some nice pics of the sun coming. A great time of the day to be out and about.

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/102/p1040519800.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3258/p1040521800.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4241/p1040528800.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4265/p1040529800.jpg

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3180/p1040538800.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1657/p1040540800.jpg

And the flying was great too.

OZBUSDRIVER
18th Jul 2009, 11:34
Just to put something in this post.

I have YET to see a dud amateur or EXPERIMENTAL aircraft. Every last one has been built with considerable care and attention to detail far in excess of that required for a CERTIFIED aircraft.

Great morning photoes, bloke:ok:

VH-XXX
18th Jul 2009, 12:07
I'll find you some pics then!

OZBUSDRIVER
18th Jul 2009, 12:19
Agree there XXX, you got any of your mate's MU-2?

VH-XXX
18th Jul 2009, 22:26
Only got one pic of a mu2 but no idea who owns it.

redsnail
18th Jul 2009, 22:32
Aussie Hawk, used to fly around there too.
:ok:

Cockatoo Is, Buccanneer Archipelago, Cascade falls/Wedding cake falls..
(ok, wrong order I know) :D

Warbo
19th Jul 2009, 08:53
Jaba, are you in Moree in those photos?

Arnold E
19th Jul 2009, 10:40
Come on Jabba I want to see some pics inside the 10. Forward and backward!:ok::ok:

Jabawocky
19th Jul 2009, 12:57
have plenty just need to get home first!

tinpis
19th Jul 2009, 20:59
Pretty aeroplane, pretty ugly handling :uhoh:

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AnyGivenSunday99
19th Jul 2009, 23:44
Grassed budgie - sensational photos! what sort of camera did you use?

TOP SHELF!!!

RadioSaigon
20th Jul 2009, 08:22
...pretty ugly handling...

concur. Stall Stick-Position mayhaps??? Far too nice an aircraft to be abused like that.

Jamair
20th Jul 2009, 08:55
Mine is approved for known ice.....:}

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p271/jamair_photos/IMG_96.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p271/jamair_photos/IMG_97.jpg

....and that's with the screen heat ON....:ooh:

Capt Fathom
20th Jul 2009, 11:05
Mine is approved for known ice.....

....and that's with the screen heat ON....

Then what are you still doing there ??

Jamair
20th Jul 2009, 23:44
...descending!! :}:}

Got the horn
20th Jul 2009, 23:48
Taken from my iPhone the other day. Not bad for 2 megapixels I reckon.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_CboH9D-AFvY/SmL4v88U7qI/AAAAAAAABRo/1yxOz4j2MmY/20090719224234.jpg

VH-XXX
21st Jul 2009, 00:59
You're not wrong tinpis, makes you wonder what would have happened with 3+ bods on board.

ForkTailedDrKiller
21st Jul 2009, 11:11
Today's destination ??

MI8s4WlnbdM

zkmkw
21st Jul 2009, 11:21
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad91/XX657/PANEL.jpg