AN124

[gas path]

Well if anyone's interested there will (should) be a Polet Airlines AN124 Ruslan at EGLL 1/8/06.
Due to arrive around 07:30 and depart 11:30.
Delivering a RR Trent 892 for the AA flight that had an engine failure and......

[chevvron]

Hope Heathrow controllers know how long it takes to throttle up to takeoff thrust, and don't expect a go-around either!

[HEATHROW DIRECTOR]

Another egroup quotes an ETA of 14:00, ETD 21:00. Wonder who is right?

[HEATHROW DIRECTOR]

The other group was correct. It's due in around 14:10 local time.

[ALLDAYDELI]

verrry interesting to go and see this one!

[treadigraph]

Just hurtled over Croydon and turning inbound as I type... thanks for the "heads up" chaps!

Treadders

[HEATHROW DIRECTOR]

The first few snaps on this page are of it on final for 27L:
http://www.brendan-mccartney.fotopic.net/c749969.html

[m5dnd]

Nice shots HD, Would have been there myself had it not been for a problem here !!..

Also nice shot of the Ghana VC-10 on Your site.. Brings back memories ......

Regards
M5DND

[BRISTOLRE]

Any clues as to when its departing again? 12x hour crew rest probably after a long transatlantic sector..? Where is it parked at the Row?

[Phileas Fogg]

Crew rest, what is crew rest? A 50 dollar note per crew member should soon resolve that issue :)

[Jerricho]

Nice pics Bren. Thanks mate :ok:

[ALLDAYDELI]

theres an AA B772 in the BA hangars Eastside of LHR tonight, assuming that this is the aircraft with the problem engine. No sign of the AN124 tonight at 6.30-pm

[gas path]

Where is it parked at the Row?
It ended up on an A380 stand on T5 (576??)

[HEATHROW DIRECTOR]

Ok C.. The light was dreadful. 10 mins earlier the sky was blue and that would have drastically improved the shots. One landed at Farnborough just before the show and I took a few pics of that too. They're the last five on this page: http://www.brendan-mccartney.fotopic.net/c1011837_25.html

Bren

[fescalised portion]

Scheduled to leave at 9.00pm tonight but may leave early as engine change was completed at 4.00am this morning. Returning unserviceable engine and spare engine stand to DFW.

[HZ123]

The engine was loaded at noon today. So would expect a/c to depart before 2100hrs.

[gas path]

AFAIK the reason for the delay was the refusal to give it a slot. As I understand they would need to use up about 5 slots for the one departure due to the need to spool up the motors prior to brake release, something like 5 mins at 50% and 5 mins at 80%. Still looking on the bright side at least AA will get their duff motor back rather than have the logistical nightmare of trying to ship it later.
So much for the original timeline of an 07:30 arrival and a 11:30 departure:=

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

Slot shows it due to depart just after 21.00 UK tonight but flying to Fort Worth (KAFW), rather than Dallas (KFDW) as metioned above. Is this a mistake?

[fescalised portion]

Yes, my mistake, sorry.

The engine was originally picked up from DFW, because that is where it was situated. It is being returned to AFW which is where one of AA's main maintenance bases are for the B767-B777, but mainly because TAESL (Texas Aero Engine Services Limited - a joint venture between AA and Rolls Royce) is also situated there and that is where it is being repaired under warranty, being paid for by RR.

If anyone is interested, the cost of the charter alone was $500,000.

I do have some pics of the inside of the very A/C that I will try and post over the next few days.

[Newforest]

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If anyone is interested, the cost of the charter alone was $500,000.
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Wow! One big plane for one engine. Wouldn't a Hercules or one of those smaller Russian jobs have been more economical?:confused:

[mickrobbo]

Departed last night 2100z, took 5 mins to spool up on the runway before rolling very slowly and limping into the air.
Impressive looking machine, though glad it went out so late thus avoiding delays to other outbounds.

[ALLDAYDELI]

C130 is a slow aircraft and doubtful if a RR Trent in full serviceable config would fit in the Herc. Smaller Russian types can be more expensive and wouldnt get US/UK traffic rights for this flight. You mean an IL76. Might not even be loadable in this either depending on engine dims.

NewForest - how did you know about the price? Must be aroundtrip at that.
Who arranges a charter like this, is it done airline to airline or with a broker?

Interesting one for the LHR movements log, not too many 124s come to here.

[AlphaWhiskyRomeo]

C130 is a slow aircraft and doubtful if a RR Trent in full serviceable config would fit in the Herc. Smaller Russian types can be more expensive and wouldnt get US/UK traffic rights for this flight. You mean an IL76. Might not even be loadable in this either depending on engine dims.
NewForest - how did you know about the price? Must be aroundtrip at that.
Who arranges a charter like this, is it done airline to airline or with a broker?
Interesting one for the LHR movements log, not too many 124s come to here.


Herc might well be more expensive given the extra flying time it would have to fly. You could maybe consider using the newly engined IL-76, but I'm not sure the dims of a trent would fit (if the a/c was available). It also depends on where the An-124 is at the time it was booked - if it was already in N. America looking for a load back to Europe then you have reduced some of the cost of the charter already.

[WHBM]

Whatever happened to the concept of putting spare engines on a special pod/pylon attached to the wing inboard of the main engines. The 747 certainly can fly around with this "fifth engine", and I believe Boeing developed one for the 777 as well. If that's what it costs for a freighter to move spares around this should be a cheaper solution.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0635769/M/

[FL460]

In a previous life I used to look after an An124 ops and be in the commercial dept.
The Trent (in its traveling frame) or the equivilent GE and P&W engines will only fit the 124 or a front loading 747. We used to move GE engines from the east coast USA to Boeing field and we could only get 4 on at a time. Volume rather than weight being the issue.
A USA Eur round trip charter would normaly be around USD 250k per charter but this could rise if its a rush job and the acft had to be pullled off an already booked charter.... so the 500k quoted is not unusual.
cheers

[BRISTOLRE]

Hi FL460, where are you now? Still in the industry? A side loader B747F would be loadable, doubt a fully serviceable RR Trent would go through the nose door. Trent dims around 300cms high if memory serves me right.

[FL460]

Bristolre
I stand corrected on the Trent dims...its been a few years since playing with An's
See your PM's for my current whereabouts

cheers

[Newforest]

NewForest - how did you know about the price? Must be aroundtrip at that.


Thanks for your info. The answer to your question is Post 19!