Tartan Giant
20th Jul 2006, 10:43
Dear aviators and enthusiasts,
We all enjoy a super day out at any of the IWM Duxford events, but I fear there is a plan afoot that will severely hinder such enjoyments; a Motorway Service Station slap bang on short finals! :eek:
This snippet gives a clue of the plan:
Finally, it is pertinent that the site is well located in proximity to the Duxford Imperial War Museum which is a very attractive visitor attraction. It might be advantageous if a Travel Lodge, or other similar facility, be incorporated within the MSA so as to provide visitor accommodation in close proximity to this important attraction.
Please check-out the proposal to build this MSA (motorway service area) within spitting distance of the venue and the magic round-a-bout we all know!
One can imagine the :mad: folly of putting such a fuel dump so near a busy runway, never mind the chaos of show days at one of the countries best display venues!:=
I have had inputs which radically disapprove of the scheme such as this:
excerpt
Here’s the deal – it’s so ludicrous it’s just not real. The “existing roundabout” they talk about has been in place for a couple of years now, and it’s clear that getting out of the village is a nightmare – the A505 traffic hardly slows at all as it approaches the roundabout. Rush hour? Don’t even go there!
Air show days? Ha ha ha. Gridlock is the best word I think.
These people [those puting forward the plan] haven’t got a clue. They also perhaps don’t consider that we have in the past had an aircraft crash on approach to the airfield......
That’s before we even come on to the issue of restrictions it will place on flights in and out of Duxford – not only historic aircraft but visiting pilots as well. I know the Museum are objecting strongly.........
I’ve attached the proposal copied from the South Cambs District Council site.
The Duxford Airfield Management Liaison Committee are hard against this proposal – to put a bloody great motorway service station on the land to the east of the airfield – please read the attached which will tell all.
Representation 12986 on Site Specific Policies Development Plan Document by Grosvenor Developments Ltd represented by Januarys
Support / Object: OBJECT
Document Link:
Site Specific Policies Development Plan Document - Roads, SP/16 New Road Infrastructure
Representation:
The distance between the existing MSAs on the M11 in the vicinity of Cambridge is greater than the recommeded distance. The proposed site is approximately half way between the existing faciities. It is well related to existing development and would not compromise the objectives of the Green Belt designation, especially as it could be accessed off an existing roundabout.
Change to plan:
Land east of M11, Duxford. The Inset Map for Duxford should be amended so as to allocate our client's land as a Motorway Service Area.
Soundness:
iv. Is consistent with national planning policy and in conformity with Regional Spatial Strategy
vii. The Strategies / Policies / Allocations represent the most appropriate in all circumstances, are founded on a robust and credible evidence base, and relevant alternatives were considered
ix. The Plan is reasonably flexible to enable it to deal with changing circumstances
At examination: Written representation
Site: Duxford, East of M11
Original Submission
Scanned Submission (PDF)
It is considered that there is a need for an additional Motorway Service Area(MSA) on the M11 as the distance between the existing MSAs is greater than the recommended distance.
At the present time, there are no services between the Cambridge Swavesey Services, which is approximately 16 miles distant from Duxford, and the Birchanger MSA at Bishops Stortford which is approximately 23 miles from Duxford.
There is, therefore, of approximately 39 miles between the two MSAs which is consisdered to be too great a distance. The current thinking is that there should be a greater provision so as to encourage motorists to take more breaks in the interst of safety, and to assist in relieving overcrowding within the existing MSAs.
Our client's land is considered to be ideally located to provide such a facility. It is located approximately halfway between the two exitsing MSAs.
In addition, it is in a location where access to the service area could be provided off an existing roundabout junction on the M11 with the A505. This would assist in minimising the impact of the development on the area as no new accesses wodul have to consructed onto the M11.
It would also be in close proximity to other development in the vicinity, in particular the Duxford Imperial War Museum on the other side of the M11 and the development of the north-eastern side of the roundabout junction.
As a consequence, the site does not give the appearance of being in the open countryside, but rather it is viewed against the existing development in the vicinity.
This point is most important as the site is currently within the designated Green Belt. However, it is considered to contribute little to the general objectives of the Green Belt as it is adjoined by development on most sides and so does not afford views across the countryside nor act as a Green Wedge between development. It is contended that there would be no loss to the character of the Green Belt around Cambridge if this area was to be developed.
It is significant to note that PPG 2 'Green Belts' notes that 'In line with PPG2, approval should not be given for an MSA within a Green Belt except in very special circumstances. One of the material considerations which could justify such an exception could be the lack of any signed MSAs. The greater the interval between the proposed site and any existing facility the more weight should be placed on the needs of motorway users.' (PPG2 Annex E paragraph 13).
It should be noted that, apart from the fact that our client's site is centrally situated between the existing MSAs, there are no other sites around Cambridge which would intrude less on the visual amenity of the area, and hence the Cambridge Green Belt, than the site suggested.
It should be noted that the site is of a sufficient size to facilitate structural planting around the boundary of the site so as to minimise the visual impact of the development, as required in PPG" Annex E paragraph 13.
Finally, it is pertinent that the site is well located in proximity to the Duxford Imperial War Museum which is a very attractive visitor attraction. It might be advantageous if a Travel Lodge, or other similar facility, be incorporated within the MSA so as to provide visitor accommodation in close proximity to this important attraction.
It is known that the owners of the land immediately to the north would also make available their land for develpment if it was so required.
The size of our client's site, together with that immediately adjoining, would be of a sufficient size to accommodate a MSA whilst still taking into account the particular requirements of the site.
SUMMARY
The distance between the existing MSAs on the M11 in the vicinity of Cambridge is greater than the recommeded distance. The proposed site is approximately half way between the existing faciities. It is well related to existing development and would not compromise the objectives of the Green Belt designation, especially as it could be accessed off an existing roundabout.
CHANGE TO PLAN
The Inset Map for Duxford should be amended so as to allocate our client's land as a Motorway Service Area.
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This LDF system has been designed and developed by JDi Solutions for South Cambridgeshire District Council.
For more information, please visit www.jdi-solutions.co.uk
More here: http://www.cambourne.info/LDFM%20June%202006.pdf lots of huff and puff, but on Page 5/20.1/Duxford East of M11/12986 is the innocuous little bit which is so outrageous not to be true.
I move to OBJECT to this inappropriate development and hope you do too:ok: Time is short.
Take action this day please.
TG
We all enjoy a super day out at any of the IWM Duxford events, but I fear there is a plan afoot that will severely hinder such enjoyments; a Motorway Service Station slap bang on short finals! :eek:
This snippet gives a clue of the plan:
Finally, it is pertinent that the site is well located in proximity to the Duxford Imperial War Museum which is a very attractive visitor attraction. It might be advantageous if a Travel Lodge, or other similar facility, be incorporated within the MSA so as to provide visitor accommodation in close proximity to this important attraction.
Please check-out the proposal to build this MSA (motorway service area) within spitting distance of the venue and the magic round-a-bout we all know!
One can imagine the :mad: folly of putting such a fuel dump so near a busy runway, never mind the chaos of show days at one of the countries best display venues!:=
I have had inputs which radically disapprove of the scheme such as this:
excerpt
Here’s the deal – it’s so ludicrous it’s just not real. The “existing roundabout” they talk about has been in place for a couple of years now, and it’s clear that getting out of the village is a nightmare – the A505 traffic hardly slows at all as it approaches the roundabout. Rush hour? Don’t even go there!
Air show days? Ha ha ha. Gridlock is the best word I think.
These people [those puting forward the plan] haven’t got a clue. They also perhaps don’t consider that we have in the past had an aircraft crash on approach to the airfield......
That’s before we even come on to the issue of restrictions it will place on flights in and out of Duxford – not only historic aircraft but visiting pilots as well. I know the Museum are objecting strongly.........
I’ve attached the proposal copied from the South Cambs District Council site.
The Duxford Airfield Management Liaison Committee are hard against this proposal – to put a bloody great motorway service station on the land to the east of the airfield – please read the attached which will tell all.
Representation 12986 on Site Specific Policies Development Plan Document by Grosvenor Developments Ltd represented by Januarys
Support / Object: OBJECT
Document Link:
Site Specific Policies Development Plan Document - Roads, SP/16 New Road Infrastructure
Representation:
The distance between the existing MSAs on the M11 in the vicinity of Cambridge is greater than the recommeded distance. The proposed site is approximately half way between the existing faciities. It is well related to existing development and would not compromise the objectives of the Green Belt designation, especially as it could be accessed off an existing roundabout.
Change to plan:
Land east of M11, Duxford. The Inset Map for Duxford should be amended so as to allocate our client's land as a Motorway Service Area.
Soundness:
iv. Is consistent with national planning policy and in conformity with Regional Spatial Strategy
vii. The Strategies / Policies / Allocations represent the most appropriate in all circumstances, are founded on a robust and credible evidence base, and relevant alternatives were considered
ix. The Plan is reasonably flexible to enable it to deal with changing circumstances
At examination: Written representation
Site: Duxford, East of M11
Original Submission
Scanned Submission (PDF)
It is considered that there is a need for an additional Motorway Service Area(MSA) on the M11 as the distance between the existing MSAs is greater than the recommended distance.
At the present time, there are no services between the Cambridge Swavesey Services, which is approximately 16 miles distant from Duxford, and the Birchanger MSA at Bishops Stortford which is approximately 23 miles from Duxford.
There is, therefore, of approximately 39 miles between the two MSAs which is consisdered to be too great a distance. The current thinking is that there should be a greater provision so as to encourage motorists to take more breaks in the interst of safety, and to assist in relieving overcrowding within the existing MSAs.
Our client's land is considered to be ideally located to provide such a facility. It is located approximately halfway between the two exitsing MSAs.
In addition, it is in a location where access to the service area could be provided off an existing roundabout junction on the M11 with the A505. This would assist in minimising the impact of the development on the area as no new accesses wodul have to consructed onto the M11.
It would also be in close proximity to other development in the vicinity, in particular the Duxford Imperial War Museum on the other side of the M11 and the development of the north-eastern side of the roundabout junction.
As a consequence, the site does not give the appearance of being in the open countryside, but rather it is viewed against the existing development in the vicinity.
This point is most important as the site is currently within the designated Green Belt. However, it is considered to contribute little to the general objectives of the Green Belt as it is adjoined by development on most sides and so does not afford views across the countryside nor act as a Green Wedge between development. It is contended that there would be no loss to the character of the Green Belt around Cambridge if this area was to be developed.
It is significant to note that PPG 2 'Green Belts' notes that 'In line with PPG2, approval should not be given for an MSA within a Green Belt except in very special circumstances. One of the material considerations which could justify such an exception could be the lack of any signed MSAs. The greater the interval between the proposed site and any existing facility the more weight should be placed on the needs of motorway users.' (PPG2 Annex E paragraph 13).
It should be noted that, apart from the fact that our client's site is centrally situated between the existing MSAs, there are no other sites around Cambridge which would intrude less on the visual amenity of the area, and hence the Cambridge Green Belt, than the site suggested.
It should be noted that the site is of a sufficient size to facilitate structural planting around the boundary of the site so as to minimise the visual impact of the development, as required in PPG" Annex E paragraph 13.
Finally, it is pertinent that the site is well located in proximity to the Duxford Imperial War Museum which is a very attractive visitor attraction. It might be advantageous if a Travel Lodge, or other similar facility, be incorporated within the MSA so as to provide visitor accommodation in close proximity to this important attraction.
It is known that the owners of the land immediately to the north would also make available their land for develpment if it was so required.
The size of our client's site, together with that immediately adjoining, would be of a sufficient size to accommodate a MSA whilst still taking into account the particular requirements of the site.
SUMMARY
The distance between the existing MSAs on the M11 in the vicinity of Cambridge is greater than the recommeded distance. The proposed site is approximately half way between the existing faciities. It is well related to existing development and would not compromise the objectives of the Green Belt designation, especially as it could be accessed off an existing roundabout.
CHANGE TO PLAN
The Inset Map for Duxford should be amended so as to allocate our client's land as a Motorway Service Area.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This LDF system has been designed and developed by JDi Solutions for South Cambridgeshire District Council.
For more information, please visit www.jdi-solutions.co.uk
More here: http://www.cambourne.info/LDFM%20June%202006.pdf lots of huff and puff, but on Page 5/20.1/Duxford East of M11/12986 is the innocuous little bit which is so outrageous not to be true.
I move to OBJECT to this inappropriate development and hope you do too:ok: Time is short.
Take action this day please.
TG