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interestedparty
29th Jun 2006, 10:42
Living near Bath I see aircraft en route to both RAF Lyneham & Bristol A/P. Even the odd VC10 & Lockheed 1011 which makes a change.
Today I rather thought I saw a 1-11 (red tail-fin). It looked like one of the non-500 types, that is smaller.
Optical delusion, or do these still fly?
My last journey in one was ages ago.

Wycombe
29th Jun 2006, 11:17
Sounds like a Boscombe Down inmate to me.

tezzer
29th Jun 2006, 11:18
Do ETPS still have one, as you say at Boscombe ?

m5dnd
29th Jun 2006, 12:11
Yes, Boscombe still fly 3 (2 with Qinetiq, 1 with ETPS) and there are around 22 still flying worldwide (figure changes daily!!).

You probably saw the ETPS one which is a 475 version.

M5DND

interestedparty
29th Jun 2006, 13:07
Thanks for the info.
I think my last trip in one was MUC-BRS (Cambrian).
I presume the -475 was British built?

Map_Shift
29th Jun 2006, 21:43
Yeah, I think the -475 was British built, but unusual in that it was a -400 series fuselage with a -500 series wing. Still had cr@p engines though :rolleyes:

ps Cambrian only had -400 series One-Elevens.

m5dnd
29th Jun 2006, 22:50
Yep, the 1-11 -475 was built in the UK (at Hurn actually) and was desinged to be the version that had rough field capability. It had the -400 series fusalarge with a bulged undercarrige bay to enable the low pressure tyres to be retracted, -500 series wing's (2ft 6in per wing longer than -400) and -500 series engines which gave it the best perfomance of the versions.
Oddly, with the -400 length and -500 wings it meant the aircraft was "Square" 93ft 6in both ways !.

If You are ever near Weybridge in Surrey, Visit the Brooklands Museum and see the prototype 1-11-475 G-ASYD (also was the prototype -400, -500 and -670!)

M5DND

Two_Squirrels
30th Jun 2006, 12:12
Point of order as regards the Boscombe BAC 1-11s. ALL of them belong to QinetiQ, even the ETPS one (ZE432).

interestedparty
30th Jun 2006, 13:41
Fascinating!
I wonder how many other old jets are flying -
Comet
Caravelle
B707/720
Trident
C880/990
??????

Capt. Tango
30th Jun 2006, 21:01
Hello Interestedparty,
Strange you should mention seeing possibly a BAC1-11 over Bath the other day. There was a red tail (40 years service) VC10 that departed Filton after
its respray the other day. I would take it that it was on its way back home to Brize Norton. Its nice to know that two Great British birds are still flying!!

microlight AV8R
30th Jun 2006, 21:24
Fascinating!
I wonder how many other old jets are flying -
Comet
Caravelle
B707/720
Trident
C880/990
??????

There are a load of Comets operating from Kinloss and lotsa 707/720 types at Mildenhall :cool:

Fenders
3rd Jul 2006, 16:49
:) Just returned from Muscat, Oman. on the apron at Seeb airport were 3 Bac 1-11's, which I believe were Omani registered. Couldn't see that clearly though.

Fenders

HZ123
4th Jul 2006, 05:21
You are correct there are at least 3 Oman Air Force a/c. However, I should imagine that they cannot have to much air time left and must surely be up for replacemnt. There demise may have something to do with BA scrapping ite 1-11 sim as Oman have been the only customer for many years.

Bigt
4th Jul 2006, 09:25
I think Im right in saying the 3 Omani aircraft are operated by the air force and have been for the past 30 years.........
Recall they were visitors to Masirah in `76. All fitted with freight doors and seem to recall one was badly damaged by a LOX fire, shipped back to UK and rebuilt

pulse1
4th Jul 2006, 09:41
A red tailed 1-11 came over the house the other day going into Bournemouth. It looked like it had a very pointy nose, Nice to hear the noise again, even on the approach!

interestedparty
4th Jul 2006, 09:45
Captain Tango refers to a VC10.
There was an all grey one above here (near Bath) yesterday.
Bumps and circuits at Lyneham maybe?