May I just pass on my heart felt wish that the gobs**** known as Murray gets knocked out of Wimbledon as soon as possible?

1 down, 1 more to go. :)

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Ah the indiscretion of youth. COLMAC! you getting this??:}

Oh yes I'll jump on this bandwagon, lets hope the little sh1t gets knocked out soon. Can't stand him.:yuk:

...and we were all models of diplomacy at 19?? Thought not. The kid makes crass comments. His edges will round off with the years:ok:

And he's Scottish

(whoops - off to bunker - incoming)

His edges will round off with the years Indeed, regular humiliation tends to have a certain humbling effect.... :E

So the England footy team, playing for England, NOT the entire UK, are not supported by a UK sportsman who just so happens not to be English.

OH MY GOD!

I know, lets all send him hate-mail for either not being English or not supporting England or why not both, just to be sure!

Despite his choice of sweat-bands, last time I looked he was a UK player, NOT a Scottish one. But hey, lets not let the facts spoil a good old bit of racist fervour, eh?

After all, you can't play for/live in the UK without being English/pro-England now can you! :yuk:



http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/rab-knight/Murray.jpg

Hey Rab, just returning the hate that you FRISP's have been sending our way for the past 6 week, enjoy.

It's a real shame that Julien Benneteau is french, otherwise I'd be supporting him to beat the little sweaty, but I just can't bring myself to wave a tricolour.

Perhaps Wombledon should adopt the home countries as seperate entities

Playing for the UK is like registering a ship under a flag of convenience. Be proud to be a Scot and play under a Scottish flag, Murray.

It is indeed a tough call to support either the French or the Scottish but after his little outburst, I do hope that Murray is history after today even if it is at the hands of a Frenchman. I wonder if he's going to be boo-ed? If he is, I wonder if he'll know why....

good old bit of racist fervour
So, if Murray openly supports England opposition it's OK, if we saying anything negative about his Scottish attitudes we are racist?

What a hypocritical little tw*t you are.

He clearly has zero desire to be associated with England, the feeling is mutual.

The bitterness is almost palpable....

Would it not be instead wiser to support him and show him up further? Show him up by your own supposed standards that is...

:rolleyes:

Och, he's a daftie who needs to learn to engage his brain before opening his mouth! Don't accuse him of malice, though - it's highly unlikely he thought twice about uttering what is a stock gag for any Scot.

He shouldn't have said it, but I do think the reaction is a touch OTT.

Eal, I have the forms for the refund from your Swiss finishing school.:rolleyes:

Fascist, racist, neanderthal, knucklescraping thugs, the lot of you, except rab-k and Stockpicker, and, err, me:} :p

He clearly has zero desire to be associated with England

Apart from the kudos, publicity and money that comes from playing in what is probably the most famous tennis tournament in the world.
If he really dislikes England, no-one is forcing him to stay.

Och, he's a daftie who needs to learn to engage his brain before opening his mouth!
He's a SCOT FFS! :E

Big difference between association with England and taking money from the English Establishment.

"MURRAY, MURRAY, MURRAY, MURRAY, MURRAY"

Get it up you, you English tw@<hidden>:p


:E

Fascist, racist, neanderthal, knucklescraping thugs, the lot of you, except rab-k and Stockpicker, and, err, me:} :p

At least we wouldnt beat up a 7 year old or a disabled bloke for supporting him, so what does that make you lot?

Pathetic.

Fascist, racist, neanderthal, knucklescraping thugs,

Blimey such accolades, almost as good as getting a Nobel prize

Skunkerama - Lighten up, was just trying to instil a little fun to the thread - there's been so many English/Scot bashing one's recently, we don't need another one:suspect:


Rushton - I'm most pleased you liked those words:ok:

Guess the mods dinnae fancy the colmac/TnT swap then.....nae daft are they...:}

You not like me SLF?:{ :{


:8

Sorry, I'll go and take my head for a sh*t.

Come on Benneteau, dump out the racist gobshite

http://www.virtual-geology.info/languedoc/images/france-flag.jpg

This really is pathetic. All of you.

The hatred that is being openly and vitriollicaly displayed here does no one any favours - whether you are Scottish or English.

I think you all need to grow up and take a long hard look at how the media have played you all for shallow minded monkeys.

I started off by feeling a bit aggrieved about this thread, now I just feel sorry for you all.

Might not be a good idea for you to look at the Official Andy Murray Blog then Bfss, you might get very very sorry.

http://andymurray.com/locker-room/blog/27-06/monday-at-wimbledon/#comments

He can say what he likes about England and the English what annoyed me was this comment.


Women should get paid less
Filed June 25, 2006, 02:30:00 AM | 51 comments / write a comment
ANDY Murray, the Scots tennis player, has joined the row over Wimbledon prize money by claiming female players do not deserve to earn as much as men.

Speaking on the eve of the championship, Murray, 19, said games were easier for women because on average they spend half the time on the court as men. He claimed most spectators turned up to see men play and were generally only interested in female players such as Maria Sharapova and Justine Henin.
The main attraction is the mens game, and if that's what pulls in the people then what creates more demand deserves more reward.
- TCK (mw member)


Murray said:
I don't think it's fair that the women get paid the same as the guys [in other tournaments]. Because if you look at it, the guys have the potential to play a five-and-a-half-hour match. A lot of women can win the first three or four rounds having dropped no more than four games.

Skunky,
After reading that webshyte, I truly feel depressed about the average Briton's ability to think for themselves. I include those that have contributed to this thread as well.
:D

I can only hope that England can somehow detach itself from the rest of the UK and float off and bump into France sinking both countries.

So, if Murray openly supports England opposition it's OK, if we saying anything negative about his Scottish attitudes we are racist?

What a hypocritical little tw*t you are.

He clearly has zero desire to be associated with England, the feeling is mutual.

Whoever has the brain cell, send it eal's way will you!

OF COURSE ITS "OK" for Murray to openly support England's opposition, you :mad: - HE IS NOT ENGLISH!!!:ugh:

Equally, if he were representing SCOTLAND at Wombledon it would be "OK" for 'eal' etc. to openly support Scotland's, or in this case Murray's, opposition because he/they ARE NOT SCOTTISH!!!

What you cannot seem to get into your apparently thick head is that Murray is representing the UK at tennis. This has knack-all to do with ENGLAND!

What is it that you do not understand about this relatively, (for most of us), straightforward distinction :confused:

Rab-K

I agree with what you say, to a point.

I am English and so do not support Scotland or Wales when they play. Likewise, I see no reason for a Scot, like Murray, to support England. Nor do I have any problem with him voicing his non support. :ok:

I think the irritation, for me anyway, is the 'I will however, actively support the oppostiion'. The Scots in particular have taken this to the nth degree by buying shirts of the opposition etc. Some elements of that behaviour is thinly disguised racism.

In Murrays case, I think he is just immature and petulant. You know....a teenager.

I saw those comments too, lexx - didn't like it at first, but on the subject of the shorter games, he is spot on - though why not give women the option of playing the longer game if the prize money was to be the same?

Where he's plain wrong is to suggest that it's only to see the men's tennis that people watch Wimbledon. Eejit! :rolleyes:

Rab

Murray is not representing the UK. He does that when he plays in the Davis Cup. At tournaments he only represents himself, like every other player.

What you cannot seem to get into your apparently thick head is that Murray is representing the UK at tennis. This has knack-all to do with ENGLAND!


Which is where the whole sporting scene needs sorting out. We have English, Scottish, Welsh etc footy teams, same with rugger plus British Lions. Sodding European in the Ryder Cup. Who knows what at the Professional Olympics.


:sad:

Rab

Murray is not representing the UK. He does that when he plays in the Davis Cup. At tournaments he only represents himself, like every other player.
Absolutely! He is, however, shown as a player of UK origin. (See below). The media portray him as representing the "UK"/"United Kingdom"/"Great Britain"/"Britain" and refer to him "British" somewhat more frequently than they do "Scottish".

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/rab-knight/Murray.jpg

But for the benefit of those struggling to understand the difference, here you go - knock yourselves out!:E

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/rab-knight/Murray3.jpg

You not like me SLF?:{ :{
:8


I'd like to say it's only banter but I have been reliably informed you are a :mad:



:p

Skunky,
After reading that webshyte, I truly feel depressed about the average Briton's ability to think for themselves. I include those that have contributed to this thread as well.
:D
I can only hope that England can somehow detach itself from the rest of the UK and float off and bump into France sinking both countries.

Jeez, you jocks can give it can't you, but you don't like it coming the other way

Right! That's it! I'm not Jock, i'm colmac - get it!?


:}

Jeez, you jocks can give it can't you, but you don't like it coming the other way

Well make up your F:mad: cking minds! Ever since the World Cup started, any Scot who didn't declare never-ending devotion to the cause of the English has been labelled narrow-minded, racist and a bigot by the English.

Now that some of your own morons have joined in the spat by having a go at Murray it's "just a bit of fun". Talk about hypocrisy!:hmm:

I couldn't give a monkey's about the English football team, equally I couldn't care less whether or not the English support the Scottish football team. However, in the eyes of FIFA and UEFA there is no "Britain", therefore why should we be expected to support our oldest rivals? We can support whoever the hell we want, it's a free country.

As far as Wimbledon is concerned, the players are British so the cr@<hidden> directed at Murray is irrelevant. Any Scottish fan of tennis will support Henman and Rusedski(sp?!) because they play for the UK, just as we support all the English, Welsh and Irish athletes who compete for the UK in the Olympics.:ugh:

The comments regarding the Dunblane massacre and the London bombings are just as f:mad:cked up as the attack on the kid with the England top in Edinburgh. I enjoy winding up the opposition as much as anyone else but that's just going too far. :*

My word you do make it complicated throwing all those current events into it. All we want is Murray out!
ABM......"Anyone But Murray!"
See how he likes it! Shouldn't be in SW19 anyway.

Speaking as one who used to come out of Southfields tube station, take a right and walk up Augustus Road a few hundred yards to one's hoose, SW19 ain't that great, trust me.:p (esp. at this time of year when you couldn't get out the station for our portly American cousins waiting in line for a cab 'cause 'Elmer', 'Betsy' & Co. can't manage the 10min walk - but that's another story!)

So which one of the Wombles is Murray? and is Great Uncle Bulgaria happy about you lot trying to out him?

I see Scotland Today (news program for those not in the know) have a headline of "Online hate campaign against Murray"

http://scotlandtoday.scottishtv.co.uk/content/default.asp?page=s1_1_1&newsid=12042

Some of the worst entries even made reference to the Dunblane School tragedy.

It's becoming OTT now:*

What you cannot seem to get into your apparently thick head is that Murray is representing the UK at tennis. This has knack-all to do with ENGLAND!
Knack-all to do with England eh? So, England is NOT part of the UK then?

If he is representing the UK, of which England is a part, why does he not have a Union Jack sweatband? For example.

Aww. C'mon Eal..think before you type.

He said approx 3 weeks ago he wouldn't support England during the World Cup..big deal.

Doesn't mean he's an England hater or racist etc..

Who cares...tennis is crap.

As for that great sport with nubile, 19 year old, foxy russian wimmin hitting yellow balls with racquets whilst wearing possibly the shortest skirts I've ever seen.....FANTASTIC!:D

EGLD,

I am trying to think of a witty and yet friendly ripost, but the level of unbridled hatred that some of you people are displaying goes way way way beyond the normally good natured ribbing that the Scots dish out to the English. If that is the way you cretins want it, so be it, show yourselves for the narrow minded hypocrites that you obviously are. With this kind of attitude it really is no wonder that many Scots become ABEs. :D

:ehem: clears throat quietly and takes a very rare stance.


We are still discussing the foolish throwaway comment of a teenager who plays tennis quite well, would that be right?

Scots: stand down, you're in danger of over-dramatising a minor event (and that person who endangered the Auld Alliance, go and stand in the corner and recite the Marseillaise! IN FRENCH!!)

English: stand down, a youth said a stupid thing which was offensive to you, and is already regretting it heartily (bear in mind his mum is there to give him a good skelping). You could perhaps be a touch less ready to insult the opposition; but on the other hand, English pride is hard to equal, and has led in the distant and more recent past to supreme victories.

To those who feel able, please join me in wishing the very best to the England football team, and the Scottish tennis player.

beyond the normally good natured ribbing that the Scots dish out to the English.
What like punching children, stoning houses etc?

For someone supposedly disliking the topic, you're spending a lot of time on this thread....
He said approx 3 weeks ago he wouldn't support England during the World Cup..big deal.
Can you imagine if Henman ever said similar re: Scotland in such a situation? I bet there'd be a fuss then!

his mum is there to give him a good skelping
An expression that I've not heard since I was a ween. Not Scots, but many Northumbrian expressions seem to have their roots over the Border.

Alas, showing my Staffordshire roots, CPTN! :p

Was threatened with 'skelp yer backside' many times (and received the treatment several times too).
No (obvious) origin found for skelp.

Knack-all to do with England eh? So, England is NOT part of the UK then?
When England is represented in its own right in a particular field, i.e. Football, the UK ceases to be of relevance as England is again treated as a Nation in its own right! The remaining entities which make up the UK therefore enjoy the same status as any other 'foreign' entity under such circumstances. So, in answer to your question, "England is not part of the UK" when it is represented on the international stage as "England". It is "England" - nothing more, nothing less! If it were not so it would by definition have to be the UK! OK?:ugh:

If he is representing the UK, of which England is a part, why does he not have a Union Jack sweatband? For example.
Why not ask himself that? His website is currently overflowing with interesting suggestions, apparently!:yuk:

All of these Scotland/England Andy Murray type arguments are getting a little too heated are they not. The guy has said he would be actively supporting England's opponents,it doesn't make him racist or an english hater at all-just a normal Scot. I'm a proud Scotsman who is also proud to be British-i think the rivalries and banter between the four nations of the UK make it a more interesting place to live. I support England's opponents not because I hate English people,but because two minutes into a game that has nothing whatsoever to do with England,Motson or Pleat have started on about 66,bulldog spirit,metatarsal and a whole load of other shite that boils my piss. Even the English guys at work can see how hard the English biased media pushes this crap down everyones throat. So if you're english and want to look for a reason why us scots don't support your football team,the media would be a good starting point. I'm not much of a tennis fan but from what little i've heard Andy Murray say he seems like a bit of a moany **** who will blame everyone but himself for a poor performance,so he isn't really a good ambassador for the sport,Scotland,or the UK.

Murray like most teenagers speaks before he thinks, question is why was it felt necessary to ask him about his thoughts on the World Cup, our media perhaps looking to spread some muck.
As a Scot living in England ( and have been for a fair few years ) I have until recently never had any trouble from the natives, now when in a boozer the locals feel duty bound to ask if I am supporting England, they get all upset and abusive when I tell them no. I am not of the opinion anyone but England, I just dont support England end of story. I dont recall either reading too much in the media about questions to the Irish or Welsh as to who they are supporting.
Small minded media looking to stir the pot, and are by all accounts doing a grand job, a certain Kelvin Mckenzie seems to be the self appointed cheerleader. The business of the two reported incidents of assualt in Scotland seems to be enough to allow condemnation of a whole country as mindless rabid racists, this in truth is not the case. People really need to get above the gutter level in this whole England/Scotland thing.
I thankya

Okay, just for rab, I'll make this as crystal clear as possible:

Murray represents himself at tennis, not a particular nation, though he is a British player. He is not representing Britain. He is representing himself.

I don't like his comments. Ergo I don't like HIM. Personally. I.e. the person he is representing at tennis. Not the nation. Just him.

I don't dislike the Scots.

I dislike him.

I therefore reserve the right to support anyone who plays him.

Ca va, mon vieux? Et allez Benneteau, alors!

Why have you gone all French? :confused:

er....just to make my position clear....

I'm English and I live in Aberdeen.

I wear my England top to the pub when we are playing.

I've had the pis$ taken out of me.

I've suffered nothing harsher than a ribbing.

I love Scotland.

I contributed to this thread in a 'take the pee outta colmac' stylie.

I would support Scotland against anyone but England. (soz to Taffs & Micks).

:)

Parce-que le Monsieur Benneteau, il est francais! Et si j'ecris en francais, peut-etre j'ai de la chance qu'il peut me comprendre.

It is indeed a tough call to support either the French or the Scottish but after his little outburst, I do hope that Murray is history after today even if it is at the hands of a Frenchman.

Murray represents himself at tennis, not a particular nation, though he is a British player. He is not representing Britain. He is representing himself.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

It is not fair to expect scots to support english football team. However, saying scots should support any foreign team that plays against england is unfair. That is wishing ill of a fellow brit. This is what has got a lot of english panties in a knot. They, the english, I would like to think don't care if scots support them or not as long as they, the scots or the welsh, don't go around supporting anyone playing against england.

good lord, at the rate you guys are going, you make the Indian and Pakistani 'internet swordsmen' look mature....

Maturity was never our strong point. Inane childishness is what we are really good at.

Now look this is getting silly. Can we all just calm down please? The Scots off you go back over the border and the English off you go back down over the border. Now stay there until you've thought about what you've all said and no coming back until you are ready to apologise.

Now if you'll just excuse me I'm off to watch the Germans beat the Argies. Where do we all stand on that?

C'MOONNNNNNNNNNN ARGENTINA:O :O

Good idea Lex - enough is enough. We can start again next week:E

Strangely I am backing the Argies. Want to see them get to within a whisker of winning - and then lose in the final:p

Maturity was never our strong point. Inane childishness is what we are really good at.

You started it, not me:} :} :} :p

Naterlich..it vil be anozer textbook example of Tutonic efficiency as ve march over zeez Argentinians and onvards tovards total domination of ve vorld….er I mean world cup victory!

Good job I got Germany in the sweepstakes

ILS

Don't like Murray.

He's a tosser.

End of....

And lexx, I'm over a very different border. I don't reside int he U.K. at all... Can I stay here please?

Yes Panda you may stay there, but only if you behave yourself! Deary me!

I'm QUITE happy to have Scots 'staying' in England without any animosity. I don't mind at least if they choose to support Ajbhanistan or whoever they choose against whoever they're playing at whatever activity.
And no, there's no malicious sting in the tail here either.

Prolly better off out of it, aren't I.

Do I have to behave myself?

Can't I be naughty just sometimes?

Purlease!

Yes Panda you do have to behave yourself.







On this thread anyway, feel freeto be naughty elsewhere, just don't blame me if you get banned.:}

Oooh, I do like a nice stern lass!

I'm no lass you cheeky scallywag, I'll have you know I am a woman. Now behave or it's the naughty step for you.

Such thrills!

I stern talking to by a luvverly woman (did I get it right? I'm sorry if I didn't. Please don't beat me ma'am....)

God, I'm gonna have a job explaining this to Mrs p-k-b if (when) she reads it!!!

As I said in another thread, in Monday's Independent, a headline asked if Henman is English, how come Murray's a Brit? He's not. He's a Scot and this is one Englishman who will be avidly following the Wimbledon results, between World Cup matches, anticipating his early defeat!

After all, if Murray is a passionate Scot and alledgedly supports anyone who is opposing England, then he can hardly complain if certain English people don't him give the normal, simpering support that tennis crowds seem to give anyone with the faintest connection to this country!

Anyway, let's face it, it will be at least another century before anyone with even the remotest connection to the UK will come anywhere close to winning Wimbledon so I don't know why I am bothering to write this!! Thank God it's Friday!

So yah boo b0ll0cks!!

:*

Oooh, I do like a nice stern lass!

And i like a lass with a nice stern:E

Please don't beat me ma'am....

That only happens if you're very naughty.

Should I get the celery and the flying helmet, just like in Allo Allo?

And in which case, lexx, I simply MUST be very very naughty, then. No?

Have to say that Murray isn't playing badly (for a Scot :E ) :D
Meanwhile, his (French) assailant, is playing like a woman.

Ya Beauty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p

No.1 Sports person in Scotland; not Britain, not England:} :p :E

Ya Beauty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p
No.1 Sports person in Scotland; not Britain, not England:} :p :E


Not hard tho is it...No.2 is a stone sliding dyke...:} :}

Ha! You leave poor Monty alone!

Hey Lex/Panda - GET A ROOM! :E

I hope Mr L doesn't read this thread.:E

Well, he's not out yet.

Playing Roddick tomorrow so that may be the end for him.

(Sadly, I will miss all the tennis because I am attending a wedding at 3 pm. Some of the other guests are a bit worried about missing the football too!!) :{ :{

I think Mrs p-k-b already has!!! :{ I'm going to be paying for this later.

Makes a change from paying for that, though, dunnit!

Have you got any free rooms in Scotland?

Well, he's not out yet.
Playing Roddick tomorrow so that may be the end for him.
(Sadly, I will miss all the tennis because I am attending a wedding at 3 pm. Some of the other guests are a bit worried about missing the football too!!) :{ :{

I knew it!! tart1 is gonna be bestman (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190002530110&);) :E

People are so inconsiderate! Fancy having a wedding during a world cup.:rolleyes:

Weddings are inconsiderate, full stop, IMHO. :rolleyes:

Ah come on Mr Bus weddings are fab, a lovely new dress, a big party and LOADS of pressies.:} :p ;)

I stopped wearing dresses, new or otherwise, after that misunderstanding in Brighton. :\


Nope, apart from the loadsa booze and guaranteed sh@<hidden> afterwards, weddings are all about feminine ego and wasting money (actually, the two are one and the same thing, when I think about it). :*

My Father, and my Uncle for that matter, never forgave my Aunt for having her wedding at the same time as the World cup final in 1966, she flat refused to delay or postpone the event, women tsk:ugh:

As for the tennis chap, who cares what he said, worse has been said here, it's his choice who he may wish to support, sad though his choice may be.

My Father, and my Uncle for that matter, never forgave my Aunt for having her wedding at the same time as the World cup final in 1966, she flat refused to delay or postpone the event, women tsk:ugh:
Did it go to penalties? Or was there a golden goal?

I believe my Aunt claimed he could have shot for England that night, but guessing by the score they didn't need another striker, what was she on about, women and football, tsk:ugh:

Anyway, let's face it, it will be at least another century before anyone with even the remotest connection to the UK will come anywhere close to winning Wimbledon so I don't know why I am bothering to write this!! Thank God it's Friday!

Based on Andys performance so far today, that century has passed a lot quicker than you thought it would!:E

C'mon Andy.

and in true sporting fashion, for those of you rooting against Andy -
Get it right up the lot of ye's!!!!!!:}

women and football


Not this one. Bloody love football I do.

Wish I didn't though, how much easier life would be!

And?....


http://www.mactavishland.ca/pictures/tumbleweed.jpg

It's funny how the demise of Roddick seems to have brought silence to so many............:D

I, a die hard Northern Ireland supporter, have just written something complimentary about the English national footie team (for the first time in recorded history). Yes, after many years of hearing the old refrain of 'you should support British teams when they play foreigners' (which, incidentally, only ever comes out of the mouths of Englishmen), I have broken my silence. So I will turn that round and say to all you English people 'you should support Murray, because he is the best British hope at Wimbledon!' (even if he is an annoying, spotty wee ****)

Oh, and before you all start, if he holds a British passport, he's British, not Scottish!

associated press july 1
"Gay tennis icon, Andy Murray from Scotland, is to face Cypriot Marcus Baghdatis in the 4th round at Wimbledon following a disappointing performance from an injured Andy Roddick. Murray's partner Frankie, 45 was seen cheering on his boyfriend voiciferously from the spectators stand"


Our prayers are with you Marcus - Where can I get a Cyprus flag pronto??

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=66312815

Our prayers are with you Marcus - Where can I get a Cyprus flag pronto??

Is this to replace your England flag, which i'm sure has been quickly disgarded or most certainly being flown at half mast:p

an injured Andy Roddick
.......................................

cabbages,

You really are pathetic. Writing what you have and attributing it to a respected news association could get you into some trouble.

Please don't edit your post, I am sure there are a few lawyers who love see what you have written.:D

All this banter from the Englanders just because a Scotsman said he wouldn't be supporting England. Pathetic.

I suppose you're all hoping Coulthard crashes out of the US GP today?

Anyway, well done Murray on beating Roddick yesterday. Nice to see such a good support from the predominately English crowd :)

I suppose you're all hoping Coulthard crashes out of the US GP today?


Yup. And the German:E

All this banter from the Englanders just because a Scotsman said he wouldn't be supporting England. Pathetic.

Nonsense. He said he would be supporting anyone but England

Big difference

Nice to see such a good support from the predominately English crowd :)

Indeed, and he should be bloody grateful for that. It appears to have humbled him somewhat, as he's today quote as saying England winning the world cup would've been a good thing for British sport, which I'm not sure I agree with, but at least he now realises such petty racism is wrong, and is now perhaps slightly grateful of the English support for him

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/7/newsid_4493000/4493643.stm
A West German teenager has become the youngest ever player to win the Wimbledon tennis tournament.
Boris Becker, a 17-year-old unseeded outsider before the tournament began, raised the coveted silver trophy above his head to rapturous applause on centre court.
Becker is also the first German ever to win the title, and the first unseeded player.
He had dominated the match from the start, taking just three hours and 18 minutes to overpower eighth-seeded Kevin Curren, a South-African-born American.

Racism??

How can you accuse him of racism because he won't support YOUR nation? Does that make everyone who didn't support Eng-er-land (as i believe it's now called) racist?

Yep. You don't half make a mountain out of a mole hill here, EGLD.

He originally stated he wouldn't be supporting England (or ABE). So what?

Is your nose so out of joint because a spotty, greasy-haired teenager didn't support your team, that you have to bring up the racist card?:rolleyes:

I didn't support England either. Not because i'm racist, i chose not to.

The 'Anyone But England' or 'ABE' attitude of some Scots can be summed up rather neatly in an old Arab proverb:

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

The fact that during the first 700 out of the last 1000 years both countries spent prolonged periods knocking lumps out of each other AND the fact that the Scots expression "The Auld Enemy" is still instantly recognised as referring to England, gives an insight into the degree to which England, despite nearly 300 years of political Union, continues to be regarded as a hostile country.

Perhaps the attitude of some English people towards the French is the nearest equivalent, again as a result of a shared history of adversarial behavior towards each other.

It seems sad that this remains to the present day and that it causes so much strife, but if history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.

I hope this provides an albeit limited insight into the Scottish psychè for some of our English readers, seriously...

Ah yes..'Engerland'. Its next door to 'Scaughtland' or 'Scortland' isn't it?

England is just the country that hangs onto Scotland's @<hidden> ;)

If you can be bothered there is a potted history of the more recent Scotland/England history. It is worth a read if you have a spare half hour.

Flypuppy's History for dim Englishmen (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=56782&page=3&highlight=scotland+history)

Ah well.

Murray knocks out Dim Henman:) :) :) twice within the space of 10 days (different tourneys) and is now up against the FedExpress:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4798187.stm

Edit: The Scot duly serves a double fault
the British number one at the moment.
the young Briton

Bollox. As soon as he makes a mistake, he's a Scot :rolleyes:

As soon as he makes a mistake, he's a Scot

Nation of wasters anyway,they all think that william wallace braveheart bollox was a true story:}

He's just beaten Ex-Fed.
Andy Murray pulled off the biggest win of his career, beating Roger Federer in straight sets in Cincinnati.
Murray became only the second player to beat Federer this year, and it was the first time the Swiss had lost before a tournament final for 18 events.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4797657.stm

One watched most of this match(and i'm certainly not a tennis fan), but what struck me was how poor Federer was.

How honest is that?!

Nation of wasters anyway,they all think that william wallace braveheart bollox was a true story:}
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You English, man, you crack me up...

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Rab, Rab!!!

You shouldna replied to that comment..

..this thread might turn out to be another Anglo bashing one:p :E

Michty me! Even if Federer was unconcious, bound, gagged and blindfolded for the game it's still a fantastic result.:D :ok:

I thought Murray had no chance!:}

I wish the lad well. He's still young, and so his losses aren't critical (all part of experience). Unless some physical (or mental) weakness intervenes I believe that he will, one day reach the top.

I believe that he will, one day reach the top.

Which is more than William Wallace did!

Yeah he did.
At least his head did, the top of a spike. :E

Fos

the top of a spike. :E

Much like the red-hot one King Eddy Mk II of Angle-land had shoved up his ar$e!...

Think I'd prefer the hanging/drawing/quartering Sir William was subjected to than that one.

I'm sure that can be arranged.......

he's British when he's winning :O

but when he loses he'll be Scottish!:sad:

it's always been that way with english commentators.:ugh:

he's British when he's winning :O

but when he loses he'll be Scottish!:sad:

it's always been that way with english commentators.:ugh:

Total myth

Totally true.

Definately no "myth", but certainly not as bad/blatant as it once was, thankfully.

It also sometimes works both ways though, if English teams win, they're English. If they lose, they're British.

This from the BBC following Murray's exit from Wimbledon:

"Is that the official end of the British sporting summer? Out of Wimbledon and the World Cup, thrashed in the cricket, it's all gone wrong rather quickly for Britain's sporting hopes."

But in all fairness the 'Beeb' are no where near as bad for this as they once were, so too others in the wider media.

Totally true.


Fark orf...:cool:

Hey SLF;)

:mad: :mad: :mad:


:ok:

Right, I'm not meant to support the English on principal (not political).
I can support the Scottish, but only some of them.
I can support Ulster, if they're winning.
I can support Ireland, but only in rugby and the Eurovision Song Contest.
I can support London Irish, who are in England.
Even have to support the Italians (in what???) since my brother married one.
But never the Germans or the French.
:}
Fos

Hey SLF,

By "Rotate on this!" do you mean http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/sauer/angry-smiley-056.gif (http://www.pprune.org/forums/%5Bimg%5Dhttp://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/sauer/angry-smiley-056.gif%5B/img%5D) ?

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/grinser/grinning-smiley-013.gif (http://www.pprune.org/forums/%5Bimg%5Dhttp://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/grinser/grinning-smiley-013.gif%5B/img%5D)

One classic example - During the 2002 Salt Lake City Winter Olympics, the BBC's Steve Rider, commenting on the GB Curling Team in the process of losing their semi-final match, managed to blurt out "a British success story is turning into a Scottish failure". Similarly quoted as saying "So what would have been a great British success in the Men's Curling has turned into a Scottish failure". Either way, you catch the drift.

There are countless others but I doubt you'd bother to read even if I did bother to post.


etited cos I kunt speal

[quote=Foss]I can support Ulster, if they're winning.

but only 2/3rds of Ulster seen as the other 1/3rd is in the Republic.;)



[quote=rab-k]

BBC's Steve Rider, commenting on the GB Curling Team in the process of losing their semi-final match, managed to blurt out "a British success story is turning into a Scottish failure". Similarly quoted as saying "So what would have been a great British success in the Men's Curling has turned into a Scottish failure".

proves my point!!

Scottish teenager Andy Murray thrashed Alessio Di Mauro in straight sets to reach the third round of the US Open.
The 19-year-old, Britain's sole survivor at Flushing Meadows after Tim Henman's exit earlier on Friday, raced past the Italian 6-0 6-1 6-1.

The 17th seed took just one hour and 14 minutes to wrap up a thoroughly one-sided victory.

Murray, for whom the third round at Flushing Meadows is new territory, now plays 10th seed Fernando Gonzalez.

The Scot had been beaten by Di Mauro in a Challenger Tour event in 2005 but came out determined to avenge that defeat.

He lost just seven points in a first set that lasted 19 minutes against left-hander Di Mauro, who looked out of his depth.


Bold and italics show my disproval....why the Scot? Why not Murray or no.1?
Why mention Henman?...he's shite anyway...feck him :ugh: :E

Murray is MINT! :ok:

Listened to the whole of Andre Agassi's match where he beat a young'un. 'Twas the best match that McEnroe had ever watched, he said. Had Agassi lost he was going to retire. Now he's got to play at least one more match . . .

Hard to believe this thread started because "the Scottish teenager, Murray" chose not to support England during their ill-fated World Cup campaign.:rolleyes:

One is proud of his roots and hates seeing the above shite written.

Just don't let him near any diet coke!

diet coke "fireworks" (http://eepybird.com/)

I know it's been posted before but I love it! :D

Two sets all, 5 games to 2 final (and deciding) set.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/5310974.stm
Now 6 games to 2 - Well Done!

Fantastic result for Murray!!

I don't care if he is Scottish, British or citizen of Outer Space. He has a natural talent and he is doing really well.

And as for his ranting and raving: remember a certain Mr McEnroe who used to cause a bit of a stir whenever he played, arguing with the officials and generally making a nuisance of himself. He went on to be a respectable and respected commentator, senior player and tennis legend.

Also, there was a Roger Federer who used to be a right pain when he was a teenager ... :)

Just seen it on the news, brilliant job that kid!

Agassi in tears too!

Didn't he do well?!

Watched the last two sets..very entertaining.

One had to laugh at the presenter after the game finished..."He is a Brit, y'know".....just about chucked the remote at the telly, patronizing little :mad:

Perhaps now he has some creed, the medja, commentators alike, will adjust their rhetoric and actually call him by his Christian name; one seems to remember Tim [not 'Henman'] was the order of the day...

..we'll see.:rolleyes:

He's going to be a great player, especially if he improves his serve. I listened to the radio commentary and Colmac made some valid points about when he's referred to as 'British' and when he's referred to as 'Scottish' Every winner was greeted with a comment like 'great shot by the young briton' but each time he dropped his serve they said something like 'the young Scot will have to work on that part of his game'

In anycase, great performence by the young guy and good luck to him in the rest of the tournament.

I am sad about Agassi though - I would have liked to see him win the whole tournament as his final goodbye. :{

Also, there was a Roger Federer who used to be a right pain when he was a teenager ... :)
Jimmy Connors . . .

Very well done Murray.

What a great prospect he is. And he doesn't give a toss about who thinks he's a gobshite.

He's got exactly the attitude you need to succeed.

Unlike mummy's boy Henman, who was never going to win a Grand Slam.

A very sad day indeed yesterday at the US Open. Watching the news there wasnt a dry eye in the stadium. I watched pictures of hardened professional tennis players in floods of tears. Agassi too could be seen visably shaking with emotion.He was said to be genuinely distraught after watching Scot Andy Murray beat an injured and well below par Gonzalez.
"Nothing could have prepared me for this moment" Agassi said after enduring Murrays post match interview.
"do all Jocks drone on like this?" he added
Lets hope Davydenko can do the business in the next round -

:hmm: Cabbages, honestly,..............what a :mad:! :yuk:

We in Scotland always say

"At least we know our footie team is shite, pity the eenglish could not accept the same of theirs"

:} :D :}

AND our footie team scored more goals than their's...:} :E :ok:

See you Ricky boy, gonny no say that ya muckle loon.:ok:

Ye'll get yer heid nippit :}

Ochone ochone!

Ah ken fine min!

Ma heid's burlin' already. :ok:

We in Scotland always say
"At least we know our footie team is shite, pity the eenglish could not accept the same of theirs"
:} :D :}
Using your system of measurement, Murray is as shit as Henman
He's not of course, he's turning into a fine player. Still a complete tit, mind
Well done for beating the Auld Enemy anyway, I hear the Faroes were gutted

Still a complete tit, mind

Tbh, this is probably why he is disliked more so. He doesn't give a stuff what people say about him or how they relate to him. Many will say it's the wrong attitude. Not me:ok:

Why is he a complete tit in your book, though?

Using your system of measurement, Murray is as shit as Henman

Hey,you may be right. What do I know. I always thought Henman to be a bit of a blouse, Whereas Murray appears to have a bit of spunk and fire.

Help me understand your assertion a bit. I am not totally clear.

Would appreciate if nobody mentioned that A.Murray is out.



:} :hmm:

Murray is out. http://www.redcafe.net/images/smilies/lol.gif

It seems to me that AM 'doesn't perform well' in the opening games of a match (OR early in the day). I understand that he's 'not a morning person'.
He was DOOMED, I tell you, DOOMED!

And it was looking good for Britain for a while, right up until the Scot lost.

Go on then you tiresome :mad:, bring it on...:rolleyes:

Henman BEATS Murray!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/5375706.stm

Welcome back, I thought you were banned?

I'm wearing my banned dannah.
(Oh bugga! Hope that isn't ANOTHER naughty word!)

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/smith_w/bibledict.html?term=Dannah

I notice that the tournament is going on in Thailand.

Wasnt the country just taken over by the military or something?

If so, I love the place.... nothing changes! :}

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=245617