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Loose rivets
7th Jun 2006, 21:08
I subjected my friend to a stint of aerobatics a couple of years back. His Cessna Aerobat would only just fit us two sizable grand-dads, but we had a blast. He had worked hard for his company and his toys. However, I just wondered why he seemed to walk so slowly to the hanger. This was a man that used to cycle miles before starting work in the early hours, and the weights in his office, I couldn't have lifted had my life depended on it.

The friend was in the early stages of a serious illness, and shortly after handed in his medical when the denial phase had passed and seeking alternative reasons for the tremor in his left hand had drawn a blank.

Some of the best professional opinions concurred, it was Parkinson's.

He had got to the stage of one hand being useless, and having trouble now using the right hand.
The drugs left him depleted by halfway through the day, despite taking the very minimum that his specialist would accept. He is able to interpret the science and knew that the more substitute dopamine that he took, the more the natural production would decline.

He was at the stage of putting his affairs in order and handing over the running of his company. But then came the miracle. Perhaps it was one of those spontaneous remissions that happen in some illnesses, but not often I'm told, in well established Parkinson's. I don't have the data on this BTW

The previous conversation mentioned one drug was down to 50% and he was hoping to dispense with it altogether. Regaining his medical was mentioned.

This all came about because he had read that there was a very low incidence rate of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's in countries like India, and the use of spices like Curcumin was thought to, in simplistic terms, "reduce the ‘plaque' that bound the affected brain cells." It was even supposed to have a remedial effect on existing affected areas. I assume that the degeneration of midbrain dopamine neurons could be caused by the same process as Alzheimer's, but I don't know. However in these eastern countries, it is still a rare occurrence. All because they eat curries? It seemed impossible that this would have gone un noticed for so long.

Here is his long awaited text, it was written to a forum or magazine. Surprisingly, it received very little response.


"After delaying four months, mostly out of expectation that my
experience was transitory, reading Dr. Howell's message to Kathyrnne in Tuesday's
forum has encouraged me to write.

I was diagnosed with tremor dominant Parkinson's four years ago and had
the diagnosis confirmed by several noted specialists, including Dr.
Jankovic at Baylor Medical Center and Dr. Manyam at Scott and White. I
have been under the care of an Austin, Texas MDS for approximately the
past year. My prescription medications: Mirapex, 1mg x 4 daily,
provigil,
and amantadine. I take several supplements daily, including 2400 mg
CoQ10.

My disease progressed and my tremor became much worse; after
approximately two years I began to experience a slight tremor in my right hand, much
as the one in my left hand had begun. I gave up trying to play the piano
because my left hand was sluggish and unresponsive. Riding my bicycle
became a frustration because my left leg could not keep up with my
right leg. I experienced other symptoms, especially the phenomenal 'panic
attack,' which really does not quite describe the feeling. Like most
of us, I have known panic and though this is similar, it is not the same.
I degenerated to the point that turning over in bed seemed to cause me to
shudder throughout, and I developed mild gait and stability symptoms.

I was aware of epidemiological studies of populations correlating
dietary curry and the incidence per capita of Alzheimer's and I read Dr.
Howell's narration describing the effect he believed curcumin had on his
condition.

I decided to augment my supplement regimen with 500 mg three times
daily. Within three days, my tremor, for all practical purposes ceased. I say
for all practical purposes because there are still days when I feel a
slight quivering in my left hand, a finger twitches a little, or I
simply feel jittery. I can sign my name again-not with a flourish, but do a
passable facsimile; my right hand no longer tremors and I can work with
my tools again. After taking curcumin for several weeks, I visited my
internist, who was well acquainted with my symptoms; when he asked how
I was doing and I responded "fine, my tremor is much better" he was
dumfounded. In the past four months, I have eliminated 75% of the
Mirapex from my regimen and I am in the process of eliminating that last
milligram.

Like Dr. Howell, I do not know what to say about my apparent
improvement. Maybe I don't have Parkinson's and my symptoms are psychogenic. Or,
perhaps curcumin is a cogent placebo, though I don't think so because
I've tried many things with expectations of improvement and been
disappointed.

Until my left hand began to tremor, I lived sixty years without any
significant health issues, exercised regularly and nourished and
nurtured my body carefully, only used prescriptions when absolutely necessary
and never spent a day in a hospital with an illness. Mirapex, amantadine
and curcumin are the only drugs/supplement I can say with a degree of
certainty have had an effect on my symptoms, and the curcumin, for
whatever reason, is the only one that coincides with the most dramatic
change in my condition. Incidentally, I have increased the dosage to
500 mg 5 times daily as I reduced my Mirapex. I am not saying I am cured,
I am not, but I am, for whatever reason, much, much better than I ever
expected to be again. That's it, for whatever it's worth, and to Dr.
Howell, thank you; you probably shouldn't give up your curcumin.

Best Regards, XXXXXXX

cliste
8th Jun 2006, 16:53
Thanks for that account ! written from the Heart !

Interesting to hear the comments from the Medical Profession.


Regards,


Cliste

Mac the Knife
8th Jun 2006, 19:44
See my comment in JB. As I remark there, sometimes new and unexpected therapies for well recognised diseases DO surface, viz. helicobacter pylori in peptic ulcer disease and it's elimination (and the cure of the PU) by antibiotics.

The author is to be congratulated on his absence of dogma - so many would have declared loudly that Cucurmin was the answer and had cured him. He states clearly that the diagnosis might have been incorrect, that his improvement could just represent one of the known fluctuations in the disease and so on. He started by non-unreasonably by hypothesising (as have others) that the low incidence of Parkinson's in the Asian population might be related to consumption of Cucurmin and experimented on himself, with gratifying results. Wisely, he does not attempt to extrapolate much further.

Much is indeed claimed for cucurmin (from turmeric)

Anti-Cancer (Anticarcinogenic)
Anti-inflammatory
Anti-Psoriasis
Anti-Cystic Fibrosis
Antimutagenic action
Antihepatotoxic action
Antihypertensive
Anti-excessive fluid (Antiedemic)
Antihyperlipemic / Hypolipidemic
Antithrombotic activity
Anti-Diabetes
Protects against kidney injury
Anticoagulant - Prevents blood clotting
Prevention of memory loss
Chemoprotective agent
Neutralizing of free radicals
Increases HDL (good) cholesterol levels
Choleretic
Hepatoprotective action
Antimicrobial
Anti-tumor, suppresses tumor growth
Antiviral
Anti-Arthritis
Depurative, Promotes excretion and removal of waste material
Antihypercholesterolemic, Helps prevent oxidation of blood cholesterol
Helps protect against or lessen the degree of kidney lesions
Anti-Alzheimers, prevention of Alzheimer's disease
Anti-inflammatory, relieves pain and inflammation (Antiphlogistic)*
Cholagogue, Lowers LDL (bad) cholesterol levels
Carminative, Increases digestive fluids and reduce gas
Antiparasitic
Anti-HIV
Inhibits Interleukin-1
Antioxidant, protects against free radical damage

Much of this seems to be hopeful claims, with nothing much published to back it, but it seems that science is not unaware of the therapeutic potential of cucurmin and is actively looking at it. Certainly the herbal/alternative medicine industry has not waited for proof and is selling cucurmin in various forms by the ton.

The Brain Research Institute at UCLA reprints a story from the LA Times on turmeric and current research that you may care to read - http://www.bri.ucla.edu/bri_weekly/news_060206.asp - cautiously.

Cautiously, because, "Mouse studies at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center have shown that the spice blocks growth of a skin cancer, melanoma, and inhibits the spread of breast cancer into the lungs."

Hmmm. I treat both, and follow the literature quite closely and I haven't come across either study. Mind you, I don't follow the mouse research much. Certainly there are no human trials in progress that I know of, which, given that cucurmin is pretty non-toxic, suggests that extrapolation of whatever mouse results they got, to humans is moot.

One of the things that I find annoying about the alternative medicine community is their insistence that conventional science disregards their nostrums. On the contrary, an enormous amount of proper research on herbal remedies has been and is being carried out. Much of the time this shows that the much vaunted effects do not occur which the alternative medicine industry refuses to accept. But occasionally genuinely useful drugs, like Artesunate, the Chinese antimalarial from artemisia emerge and are accepted.

Great things may have small beginnings and observation of anecdotal effects have led to many great advances in science. It seems that the therapeutic usefulness of cucurmin in a number of disease states is currently under active investigation. So far, nothing earth-shattering has yet emerged, but that is not to say that it may not prove useful in some conditions.

I am delighted that your friend's symptoms have improved so much and wish him continued good health.

:ok:

*PS: Nostalgic to see the antique term "anti-phlogistic" resurrected. I thought Lavoisier had dismissed phlogiston is 1777....

tinpis
4th Jul 2006, 03:00
Thank you for that.:ok:
Something else I found.

BTW, black pepper, or piperine (which is in black pepper), increases absorption of curcumin by inhibiting the appropriate P450 enzyme (CYP3A4). Without inhibition of CYP3A4, very little curcumin is absorbed:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9619120&query_hl=7

Planta Med. 1998 May;64(4):353-6.

Influence of piperine on the pharmacokinetics of curcumin in animals and human volunteers.

Shoba G, Joy D, Joseph T, Majeed M, Rajendran R, Srinivas PS.

Department of Pharmacology, St. John's Medical College, Bangalore, India.

The medicinal properties of curcumin obtained from Curcuma longa L. cannot be utilised because of poor bioavailability due to its rapid metabolism in the liver and intestinal wall. In this study, the effect of combining piperine, a known inhibitor of hepatic and intestinal glucuronidation, was evaluated on the bioavailability of curcumin in rats and healthy human volunteers. When curcumin was given alone, in the dose 2 g/kg to rats, moderate serum concentrations were achieved over a period of 4 h. Concomitant administration of piperine 20 mg/kg increased the serum concentration of curcumin for a short period of 1-2 h post drug. Time to maximum was significantly increased (P < 0.02) while elimination half life and clearance significantly decreased (P < 0.02), and the bioavailability was increased by 154%. On the other hand in humans after a dose of 2 g curcumin alone, serum levels were either undetectable or very low. Concomitant administration of piperine 20 mg produced much higher concentrations from 0.25 to 1 h post drug (P < 0.01 at 0.25 and 0.5 h; P < 0.001 at 1 h), the increase in bioavailability was 2000%. The study shows that in the dosages used, piperine enhances the serum concentration, extent of absorption and bioavailability of curcumin in both rats and humans with no adverse effects.

Mac the Knife
6th Jul 2006, 20:22
Those who are interested in such matters may wish to read Prof. Michael Baum's original letter querying the use of unproven treatments obn the NHS and his answer to criticism of it.

You can read both here

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/931/

Apart from his warnings, he makes some excellent points about the current failure of conventional medicine to address the spiritual welfare of patients adequately if at all.

It's worth reading.