First Choice Airways - Callsigns

[littlepilot]

Good evening all,

Just a very quick question as I know some of you are all willing to help. I have noticed fairly recently that the First Choice flight numbers , european flights especially, are totally different to the actual vocal callsign on the radios. Would anyone happen to have any documents or anything that show what callsigns go with which flight numbers? eg.(FCA5404 - FCA236C)

Thanks guys , I hope someone can help!

Josh

[Brian Fantana]

Littlepilot

All First choice callsign are - Jetset - so in the examples you give:
FCA5404 = Jetset5404
FCA236C = Jetset236 charlie

Hope that is what you wanted to know
Brian

[Kestrel_909]

I'm not sure of such a list with callsigns against flight numbers, but if you type in the callsign to www.trackaflight.com, it will bring up the details of departure and destination, if that's enough information for you.

[littlepilot]

I already knew that Brian , thanks for the reply though, Kestrel , I also know about the flytecomm website , but I can't seem to find any First Choice flights on it.. Thanks.

[chiglet]

littlepilot,
Don't panic...'cos [sometimes] ATC can't find their callsigns either :ugh:
FCA/First Choice have a "Numeric" ticketing system....FCA1234 MAN-AGP....
The ATC "Callsign" could be FCA123C......if we are lucky, but it could also be FCA 964C......c'est la vie
Keeps us ATCers awake though
watp,iktch

[Kestrel_909]

If you type in FCA123C as the flight number and click track, it should work. Don't use the drop down airline menu.

[Global Pilot]

Here is FCAs schedule for June 1. Maybe you can match up the callsigns with flight numbers used for ticketing.
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FCA Schedule for June 1 2006
Callsign Aircraft From To ETD
FCA449D B752 LGKO EGCC 23:55
FCA97 B763 MMCZ EGCC 23:55
FCA636D A320 LCLK EGGW 0:05
FCA133F B752 LGRP EGPF 1:25
FCA157D B752 LGKO EGBB 2:45
FCA821C A321 EGGD LGZA 4:20
FCA875C B752 EGKK LGTS 4:40
FCA853C B752 EGCC LPFR 5:05
FCA401C A321 EGGD LPFR 5:10
FCA313C B752 EGKK LPFR 5:00
FCA904C B752 EGKK LPFR 5:00
FCA864C A320 EGAA GCRR 5:10
FCA186C B752 EGCC LPFR 5:20
FCA570 A320 EGCC LBWN 5:25
FCA338 B752 EGKK LTBJ 6:10
FCA209C A321 EGNX GCRR 6:00
FCA354C B752 EIDW GCRR 6:00
FCA459C A321 EGSS LPFR 6:10
FCA303C A320 EGKK LGMT 6:10
FCA573C B752 EGCC LGTS 6:20
FCA843C B752 EGCC GCRR 6:20
FCA665C A320 EGGW LPFR 6:20
FCA714C B752 EGBB LPFR 6:25
FCA116C A320 EGKK GCRR 6:35
FCA472C A320 EGCC LGMT 6:40
FCA531C B752 EGKK GCRR 6:55
FCA268C B752 EGPF GCRR 8:00
FCA206 B752 EGBB HESH 8:00
FCA779C A320 EGFF GCRR 8:15
FCA722C B752 EGCC LEAM 8:15
FCA821D A321 LGZA EGGD 8:30
FCA401D A321 LPFR EGGD 8:45
FCA313D B752 LPFR EGKK 8:45
FCA875D B752 LGTS EGKK 8:55
FCA853D B752 LPFR EGCC 8:50
FCA90 B763 EGPF KSFB 9:00
FCA994D B752 LPFR EGPH 9:00
FCA72 B763 EGCC MDPC 9:00
FCA329D B752 LPFR EGNJ 9:10
FCA459D A321 LPFR EGSS 9:50
FCA571 A320 LBWN EGCC 10:00
FCA639D A320 LPFR EGNM 10:00
FCA54 B763 EGKK MUHG 10:00
FCA864D A320 GCRR EGAA 10:20
FCA714D B752 LPFR EGBB 10:20
FCA339 B752 LTBJ EGKK 10:45
FCA303D A320 LGMT EGKK 10:45
FCA573D B752 LGTS EGCC 10:50
FCA209D A321 GCRR EGNX 11:10
FCA354D B752 GCRR EIDW 11:10
FCA472D A320 LGMT EGCC 11:30
FCA116D A320 GCRR EGKK 11:35
FCA843D B752 GCRR EGCC 11:40
FCA531D B752 GCRR EGKK 12:00
FCA722D B752 LEAM EGCC 12:05
FCA510 A321 EGGD LBWN 12:25
FCA592 B752 EGKK HESH 12:35
FCA682 B752 EGCC HESH 12:55
FCA268D B752 GCRR EGPF 13:20
FCA779D A320 GCRR EGFF 13:20
FCA329C B752 EGNJ LPFR 13:25
FCA994C B752 EGPH LPFR 13:20
FCA624C B752 EGKK LEAM 13:20
FCA326C A321 EGSS GCRR 13:55
FCA169C A321 EGGD GCRR 14:05
FCA207 B752 HESH EGBB 14:20
FCA610 B752 EGBB LBWN 14:10
FCA639C A320 EGNM LPFR 14:45
FCA911C A320 EGAA LPFR 15:25
FCA511 A321 LBWN EGGD 17:00
FCA624D B752 LEAM EGKK 17:00
FCA904D B752 LPFR EGKK 17:15
FCA186D B752 LPFR EGCC 17:25
FCA611 B752 LBWN EGBB 18:31
FCA665D A320 LPFR EGGW 18:40
FCA593 B752 HESH EGKK 18:55
FCA169D A321 GCRR EGGD 19:20
FCA326D A321 GCRR EGSS 19:25
FCA911D A320 LPFR EGAA 19:20
FCA683 B752 HESH EGCC 19:30

[hatters united]

Why do First Choice Airways flight from Gatwick to Puerto Vallarta re-fuel in Orlando but the Manchester flight goes non-stop ? I don't seem to be able to get a valid reason from anyone.

Have just returned from PVT and the stop in Orlando was very tedious, had to clear immigration, change terminals, check in again, clear security and then re-board the aircraft !

Have to say that the cabin service was First Rate and as for the leg room, other charter operators should be ashamed !!

First post, so hope O.K.

[Wipeout]

To answer the 1st ? about FCA's dual-callsigns, the four digit alpha-numeric codes, eg FCA112c are our ATC callsigns, whilst the 4 digit numeric codes, eg FCA4616 are our commercial callsigns, so what the pax are ticketed for and whats displayed in the terminals. They usually bear no relation to one-another.
As littlepilot noticed, this only applies to EU flights - non-eu flights have the same atc/commercial callsign. For those interested, the commercial callsign displays info about the flight itself. The first no, in the above example '4' denotes the home-airport, in this case LGW (2 - MAN, 3 - BHX, 1 - GLA, 7 - BRS,5 - LTN/STN, 6 - Adhoc flight, 8 - BFS/DUB), the second number shows day of the week, so '6' represents a saturday (monday -1, tuesday -2, etc). The remaining numbers specify the flight.

In response to the above ? from Hatters Utd about fuel stops whilst on-route to Puerto Vallarta, the LGW one needs it due to the slight extra distance it has to fly - the MAN one doesn't need the extra stop (taking into account contingency fuel etc), but is near the limits. The extra few hundred miles makes all the difference!

PS - Glad you liked the extra legroom!

[afterdark]

thanks Wipeout for the info on how FCA allocates flight numbers by airport & day, but how do they allocate flight numbers for long haul ie. GLA - SFB flight FCA090 ?

have FCA an upgraded in any way 752 currently the substitute aircraft for the UK - SFB flights that they are routing via BGR at the moment due to aircraft shortage/tech reasons.

how do they fit a 763 load onto a single 752 ?

[NEastMidlands]

afterdark

The two Sanford flights GLA and MAN were operated by B757 G-CPEP i believe. They usually send some people off with Virgin, so they are the lucky ones so to speak.

It is very rare that happens though, and it was highly unusual that BM? went tech on Thursday and AN as well.