Recruitment Agencies?

[gibr monkey]

Hi ya folks,
wondering if these aviation employment agencies are much use to low houred , fresh faced FATPL guys like my self.

Any body know if any body has had any luck with them?

s

[Mr Wonka]

gibr monkey

In my experience they tend to need pilots with hours on type and usually at short notice.

But I guess it depends on the type of pilots they are requested to seek out. So maybe call them or log onto there web site data base with your hours, and if you meet the requirements then your in.

Nothing to lose

Good luck anyway

Mr W

[theWings]

Hey GM,
Agencies (in any industry) tend to want to make a fast buck by supplying scarce resources to their clients. An experienced 73' skipper is worth a finder's fee and requires less effort to 'sell', a fresh faced fATPL not quite so.
Many specialise in contract work so you'd need to have plenty of experience to be of interest.
That said, if they suddenly get a requirement for a promising low-timer who'll come cheap and might even pay for their TR...:hmm:
I've used them in the past and as long as you remember that, unless you've built up a working relationship with them, they are ONLY in it for the money and that, in some cases, you can replace the word 'agency' with the word 'pimp', then they may be useful to you.
Good Luck :ok:

[Hansard]

Logged on to the website of a lesser known Dutch Airline and discovered that they're advertising for FOs. Telephoned the agency number given and was advised to look at the agency's website. It says "take our pilot aptitude tests at a cost of 1500 euros and if you pass them, we'll put you on our database and introduce you to airlines". The fee is refunded if you fail the tests, apparently.

They've gotta be kidding?

PM me if you want the names of the airline + agency.

[Addy]

Yep I know...also you are kindly asked to pay your own dash-8 or F50typerating....

[rotatrim]

Atcherley Aviation have advertised quite a few jobs recently. Does anyone know anything about them? Are they mainstream? Are they new on the scene?

[european champion]

I have checked many web sites of recruitment agencies,it looks like someone needs to have a type rating to enrol with them.
Are there any agencies that accept a cv and do not require a type rating?

[Re-Heat]

Are you mad? They are trying to place people at short notice!

[wigwag]

As Re-Heat said, most agencies receive work at short notice, so therefore require pilots quickly. Its not like a lot of airlines who have the ability to work and plan ahead, so this is why they need type rated and experianced.

WW

:)

[european champion]

I would think that if they know a demand for pilots is coming from a certain airline 2 or 3 months ahead then probably they could still hire someone who doesnt have a rating but is willing to start it immediately!

[Re-Heat]

Would you run your business in that manner - investing money in employees who - quite frankly - are not intending being around that long, and are by nature short-term themselves?

That would be yet another great example of poor economics in this industry.

[scroggs]

Pilot agencies work to place experienced people often in short-term contracts in airlines with temporary staffing gaps, much like locum work for doctors. While some agencies also offer long-term contracts with major airlines, these are always for experienced pilots with a proven track record.

These agencies are not like Job Centres. They are commercial contractors who fill places for a fee. Accordingly, they don't take the risk of offering people with no experience to their customer airlines.

Scroggs

[Phileas Fogg]

There are occasions when agencies can accept applications from lower experienced pilots but these shall always be advertised in the required criteria.

The agency is in business to place as many pilots, earn as much revenue, as possible thus it is not to their advantage to make an application criteria any more difficult than is necessary, the criteria is set by the relevant airline or regulating authority thus when they ask for 500 hours on type they shouldn't expect to hear from every Tom, Dick or Harry who hasn't got the hours or indeed the type rating.

[Aerofoil]

Hi all,

I was just wondering if anyone can give me the names of some large recruitment agencies for flight deck crew? I basically need to contact them to ask a few questions. I am based in the uk and the only ones i can find at the moment are Parc Aviation and Wynnwith....thats without looking at the agencies abroad. Can anyone suggest any others?

Many Thanks

Foil

[alexb757]

How about looking in the back of Flight each week for starters.....also if you did a Google on your computer, you'd probably find more than you really want.
This is not rocket science......!

[Aerofoil]

Oh dear lord, i appear to have touched a nerve! :rolleyes:

[pipergirl]

What type of questions do you need answered?

[Aerofoil]

Just about which type rating to go for. Of course everyone would have their different opinions which is what i am finding at the moment talking to different people but i need to get a better idea from the people who deal with this sort of stuff directly. Spending so much money i want to make the best decision as i can.

Rgds

Foil

[dalflyer]

Hi Aero,
There are numerous agencies you can deal with. Parc, Rishworth, IAC, DirectPersonnel, Wynnwith, V-HR, HACS. All seem to have the same contracts and are all chasing the same pilots. Some are better than others but as a whole they tend to offer the same product.
As to the Type rating question you had, lets be honest.....unless you have a significant amount of Jet PIC time it just isn't worth it. The Contract Co's rarely offer Co-Pilot jobs and those that are offered are at very low rates. Check out this link (http://forums.airlinepilotcentral.com/showthread.php?t=693) for most of the agencies and good luck with any decision you make.
Regards,
Dal

[IRISHPILOT]

Hello,
Slightly older thread but need to reply:
Cannot agree with dalflyer at all, my own experience with three agencies to date was good, strated first one with 100 hours on type, second one with 150 and 3rd one with 600, all as an FO.
As for rates, we get 75% of the pay of the contract captains, that allowed me to buy a 500 square metre parcel of land with just 2 pay checks near our capital.
As for which rating to go for, Aerofoil: You will find most agencies little helpful with that query, just check what jobs they have on offer right now. B737 did it for me, but I think A320 is more popular now. - These things may well have changed by the time you are on the market...
Good luck! IP

[pipergirl]

Just in response to your post Irish Pilot-

I would agree with Dalflyer's post as it is the most accurate, apart from the comment about the agencies rarely taking First Officers.

Your experience of working with an agency below the standard 500 hours on type is an exception rather than the rule, so to speak. I think you were very lucky on these 2 occasions-the general standard is they will not look at you without 500 hours on type.

[dxbpilot]

Hi , Does anyone have any experience with any of the job agencys ?
eg. Rishworth etc ? Is it worth going to one of these companys for a low time pilot ?


thanks

[avrodamo]

Don't think as a low hour pilot you would have any joy at all with an agency.