More PC Madness...

[Letsby Avenue]

Just heard an ITV reporter refering to the 'Armed Services' :ugh:

Even better - I have just heard someone objecting to the term 'Airmanship' She think's the term should be 'Airpersonship' :}

Any more?

[WE Branch Fanatic]

Who objected, and why?

[Whirlygig]

Aaaarrgh! :*

That irritates me so much! :ugh:

I am the Chairman of a classic car club and insist on being called Chairman. If any refers to me as or addresses me as Chairwoman, Chairperson or, for :mad: -sake "Chair" (what am I, a piece of fine Chippendale?), they get ignored or censured, depending on my mood.

The derivation of Chairman, Airman, Spokesman etc is "mankind" and "human" and nothing to do with gender.

Cheers

Whirls

...and woe betide anyone who calls me Ms.

[An Teallach]

Before our resident Daily Mail reader bursts a blood vessel, I must confess to not being in the first flush of youth. For as long as I can remember the term 'Armed Services' has been interchangeable with 'Armed Forces' and perfectly socially acceptable even among Torygraph readers who might consider Ghengis Khan to be a Pinko Lefty. :confused:

[Wyler]

There was talk last year of renaming Stn Cdrs 'Chief Executives' and OC Admins as 'Business Development Managers'.
As it is we now have 'Human Resources' and Civil Servant Sqn Cdrs.

UK Defence Force, just around the corner. :mad:

[Fg Off Max Stout]

RAF Bullsh1t Bingo is a growing sport and JPA has just added to it.

Regards to all Liveware out there!

[27mm]

Hello Chaps,

Small article buried in one of the Sunday papers reported that the terms BC and AD are to be phased out, "lest we offend ethnic minorities"; the terms BCE (Before Common Event) and ACE (After Common Event) are being proposed as replacements. :ugh:

[keithl]

BCE and CE refer to "Common Era" and have been alternatives to BC and AD for some years now. I don't hold with it within places where BC and AD are well established, but it does get round an international difficulty when groups (Chinese, Arab, Jew) have different year numbering, yet have to communicate across the world in which, for historical reasons, BC and AD predominate.

[Fg Off Max Stout]

Yet another example of militant-PC-fluffist-luvvie-guardianistas demanding a change from common, accepted, standard practice lest we offend any unspecified minority. I have yet to here of any member of any minority giving a flying f--- about such issues. Generally we end up as a source of amusement for abolishing our culture over issues which are seen as trivial and irrelevant by the target audience.

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BCE and CE refer to "Common Era" and have been alternatives to BC and AD for some years now. I don't hold with it within places where BC and AD are well established, but it does get round an international difficulty when groups (Chinese, Arab, Jew) have different year numbering, yet have to communicate across the world in which, for historical reasons, BC and AD predominate.

I vote for renaming it 'Star Date'. :}

Beam me up, Spotty.

[teeteringhead]

Save a lot of time and hassle if we went straight for 1427 AH :(

[Red Line Entry]

And now, of course, the Senior Officers' Wives course (the famous SOWs course) has been replaced with the Senior Executives' Partners Seminar (SEPS).

It's not the same (but I suppose it lets any male stn cdr send their boyfired along!)

[flipster]

WHAT!!!!!!.... their boyfriend AND their wife......they have to be mad!....um....hang on?:hmm: :hmm:

[Scud-U-Like]

Here we go again. Urban mythology strikes again, you saps.

[Fg Off Max Stout]

Actually Scud, it's not a joke:

BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/A3176345)
http://www.religioustolerance.org/ce.htm

The latter site states, amongst other PC garbage,
Imagine how you would feel if the notation were BM and AM where "M" stood for Mithra -- a mythical god-man from Persia on whom the religion of Mithraism was created. (Mithraism was the main competitor to Christianity at one time). You would be offended, and distressed at having to acknowledge such a god-man every time that you wrote a date.

Actually no, if it was standard, common use notation I couldn't give a kippers'. NB. This zeitgeist is my bete-noir: that PC apologists and their doppelganger honchos are given carte-blanche to abolish bona fide, pukka expressions that they decree verboten and expect me to kow-tow to their typhoon of cultural destruction etc.

I, and the majority of the Western population absorb elements of other cultures happily and often without even noticing (and most certainly without taking enormous offence), and the reverse is even more true. I am sick and tired of apologists telling me what I can and can't say, and apologizing on my behalf for things that nobody else in the world, including those allegedly offended, give a sh1t about. How often have you heard of British councils banning the flying of the Union Flag in case it offends someone - and how often have you heard of anyone actually being offended by the site of the flag?

That last site even advocates that for consistency, the names of the days and months be changed but only relents as their culturally offensive origins are widely unknown. Good Lord. Can't these people find something useful to drip about.:mad:

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Other offensive things that should be changed at once:

Days of the week


Monday: Named for Luna, Goddess of the Moon - offensive to non-Pagan religions.
Tuesday: Named for Tyr, God of Honourable War - offensive to non-Nordic Pagan religions.
Wednesday: Named for Woden (Odin), God of Gods - offensive to non-Nordic Pagan religions.
Thursday: Named for Thor, God of Thunder - offensive to non-Nordic Pagan religions.
Friday: Named for Frigga, Odin's wife - offensive to non-Nordic Pagan religions and those who don't believe in marriage.
Saturday: Named for Saturn, God of Farming and Long Life - offensive to non-Roman Pagan religions.
Sunday: Named for Sun Gods - Offensive to non-Pagan religions.


Months of the Year


Named after gods: January (Janus), March (Mars), April (Aphrodite), May (Maia), June (Juno) - all offensive to non-Roman or -Greek Pagan religions.
Named after Roman Emperors: July (Julius Caesar), August (Caesar Augustus) - Offensive to those descended from the lands of Gaul.


Words and Phrases

"Whatever possessed him to do that?" - From the belief that demons or other spirits can possess a human body to use it for their own ends. Offensive to atheists.
"Good God!", "Good Lord", and variations thereof - Blasphemous exclamations of surprise or indignation. Offensive to Christians and atheists.
Royal Navy, Her Majesty's Royal Marines, Royal Irish Regiment, Royal Regiment of Scotland, Corps of Royal Engineers, Corps of Royal Signals, Royal Logistics Corps, Royal Artillery, Royal Army Medical Corps, Royal Air Force, Royal Mail, Royal United Services Institute, Royal Academy, Royal Academy of Dramatic Arts, Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors, Royal Aeronautical Society, other Royal organisations, the Royal Family, the Royal Warrant, Royal Commissions, letters patent, British honours system - Offensive to republicans and Catholics.


It's entirely fair to take reasonable steps to avoid offending people. The above lists are, of course, ridiculous. But if you extend the logic behind Councils that won't allow their own offices to fly the Union Flag, changing "BC" and "AD", etc, you're going to get into some bizarre territory.

Our entire language, culture and identity is based upon a largely Christian and Pagan past, invasion, military activities and the Monarchy. Every time someone introduces a piece of unjustified PC nonsense, they are denying a part of our history and a part of our culture.

[An Teallach]

**** off you smart-@rsed poof!

[Whirlygig]

"Good God!", "Good Lord", and variations thereof - Blasphemous exclamations of surprise or indignation. Offensive to Christians and atheists.
Actually, I am wary of using those expressions - that almost goes past PC nonsense and I do try to show respect for other people's religions.

Besides, what's wrong with a good ol' bit of Anglo-Saxon :E

Cheers

Whirls

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A_T

OI! You Jockinese haggis-breathed old queen! How DARE you call me a poof!

Bitch!

(It's called "irony". It's like "goldy" or "brassy", only it's made of iron.)

[Whirlygig]

Oooh cat fight! Cat fight! :D

Who's in the pink corner?

Cheers

Whirls

[An Teallach]

Less of the ageism, laddie!
Just in case anyone else gets upset:
i·ro·ny (r-n, r-)
n. pl. i·ro·nies
1.
a. The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
b. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
c. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect. See Synonyms at wit1.
2.
a. Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: "Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated" Richard Kain.
b. An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity. See Usage Note at ironic.
3. Dramatic irony.
4. Socratic irony.

Ah, the leapfrog has a lot to answer for!

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And Brown Brothers' Cabernet Sauvignon 2001 (Victoria)!

[clicker]

Hello Chaps,
Small article buried in one of the Sunday papers reported that the terms BC and AD are to be phased out, "lest we offend ethnic minorities"; the terms BCE (Before Common Event) and ACE (After Common Event) are being proposed as replacements. :ugh:

Common event, my ars@, it only happened once. But being a minority event I suppose it will be voted in by the euro MP's at great cost to the public.

[teeteringhead]

I think you'll find that the terms BCE and ACE refer to Common Era rather than event - and have been around for a long time.

I first heard of them in James Michener's (excellent and very highly recommended) book "The Source", where they were used by western archaeologists working in Israel - which seemed reasonable. That book was written in 1965.

In the PC sense, I first met them in 1999 on an OU course, when students were advised to use them for PC reasons - of course I didn't!

But then I was criticised once for referring in an essay to an historical character who "embraced a number of philosophical delusions, including magic, spiritulism and socialism!"

[VH-GRUMPY]

When I worked for the Australian CAA I said to my boss that I thought it was time for us to stop referreing to our examiners as "Examiners of Airman" - maybe we should use the term "Examiner of Aicrew".

His response was (and I should say we are still both very good freinds) - "They have stopped me smoking in my office - they won't ferking tell me how to name my ferking staff."

He retired - they are now Flying Operations Inspectors.

Sometimes it is important to neuter the terms!

:p

[Training Risky]

Oh yes, very important I'm sure.

You must have had soooo many complaints from the male and female pilots you were examining.

:rolleyes:

[South Bound]

What a crock.

I am a human, as is my wife and daughter. We are not hupersons. It is all b:mad: :mad: x.

[ZH875]

So why do Female Pilots still sit in a Cockpit?

[Whirlygig]

Because otherwise it would be called the Box Office! :zzz:

Cheers

Whirls

[Echo 5]

**** off you smart-@rsed poof!

F%ckin priceless :)