Employment in Poland

[Tomasz]

Hello, the reason that I'm writing this thread is that currently I'm doing my JAA conversion, and planing to move back to Poland this year. My question is does any boby know the job prospects in Poland? are any airlines hiring? and how many hours you need to get a flying job, and flying job?. Thanks

[sickBocks]

SkyEurope based in KRK (Slovak registered a/c) B733/B735/B73G (should be an all B73G base when they arrive)

Wizz Air A319/A320 based in KTW maybe pilot bases in WAW and GDN too

Both expanding - both normally require type-ratings

Fischer Air Polska - B733/B752

Central Wings - B733/B734 were hiring via contracts, again type-rated

sB :ok:

[onedaymaybe?]

Maybe you could even try Lot

I would definitly give Wizzair a go, New A320's (Not 319's), and they seem to be growing steadily. A great group of guys to work with and a very international team. Brits, Australians, French, Dutch, Polish and of course Hungarians (It is a Hungarian airline)

Bases at Katowice, and yes Gdansk and Warsaw too. They seem to be loosing a number of pilots to the likes of Easy and other European charter co's.

If you are Polish it should make things easier, as all non Hugarian and Non-Polish seem to be provided by Storm Aviation where they would expect you to do your type rating with them, then be handed over to Wizz.

Just remember though that if you are Employed as Polish in Poland by Wizzair your wages will be significantly less than the Ex-Pat guys, who are normally employed and paid through a contracting company.

[sickBocks]

EuroLOT have recruited within the last 12 months on the ATR42/72.
Wizz get the 319s from 2007.

Norwegian were also looking for WAW-based B733 pilots recently.

[Tomasz]

Thanks for all the replys guys. The thing is I only have 320 hours, and I was also wondering, do you know the hours the airlines in Poland want, before you can join? Thank you

[onedaymaybe?]

Then you have probaby got more hours than a few of the Wizz cadets then. Although I did hear that Wizz were upping the hours of the cadet requirement.

But you would have to check on that.

But I have also heard from friends in Wizz that a few Polish pilots are looking into getting the JAR now it is accesable for them and looking elsewhere in Europe for work.

Also if I remember there is a company based out of Warsaw using Turbo Lett's for charter work and they seem to have aircraft in both Warsaw and Gdansk when I was there.

There was another company who's name escapes me now also based out of Warsaw who had 737s I believe. Sounded like travel services or something like that.

[Mr.Fly]

The market for Polish speaking pilots is blooming here at the moment. 320h is more than enough for Eurolot (flying ATR 42/72) or Central Wings (flying B737). The second requires self founded TR (which is about $15k if done through Fisher Air Poland). Sky Europe and Wizz are hiring as well but it is much harder to get in. Good Luck.

[WJA737]

Hi, this is my first post. I was wondering if anyone has any info on where I can find info on Lot's requirements,or if they have a sponsorship program. Any info would help.

Thanks.

[Piltdown Man]

With respect, you have to be joking, right? Poland is not exactly the richest country on earth and you are wondering if they sponsor... As for their requirements, what did they say when you asked them?

[WJA737]

Thats why I'm asking, I don't know what there requirements are. I thought it would work for me, I have a Polish Passport,and I have loads of family that lives in Poland.

[act700]

Last I heard they hire exclusively through EuroLot. And I don't know what their requirements are.

[Tomasz]

The requirements to join Eurolot which I was told was that you need a JAA forzen ATPL lisence with around 300 hours, plus you need a multi-engine IFR and MCC course.

[ramon76]

I see eurolot has its own TRTO... courses are given in polish. (!!)
they do not show any job offers, and their HR dept has no email, just phone/fax...
Lot airlines has some very good pilots, close to Top-guns, as I saw on their "people profile"...

I would love to fly for Eurolot!!!!

anyone who could h elp here, will be very wellcomed!

Cheers

[Spelunker]

piltdown_man thats a stupid assumption to make on your part. Vietnam is a far more poorer country than Poland yet Vietnam Airlines has a cadet program in place, where they pay for the training and living expenses while the students undertake their training in Australia.

You might wanna first check if LOT has or hasn't a sponshorship program in place before you come here and post replies just based on your ignorance of an eastern european country. No offence.

[act700]

Do you need a JAA licence to fly in Poland these days? Or do they accept anything else?

[Tomasz]

Regarding your question about having a jaa lisence in poland is that you can have a ICAO lisence and convert it to a polish lisence, but you can only fly General Aviation. But if you want to fly for the airlines you have to convert to a JAA I know, because I moved to Poland this year from canada and I'm converting my lisence, so hopefully next year I can find employment with eurolot.

[cheja]

Hello

Just wondering about the current hiring status and mnimum requirements on the Polish market.
Learned trough this Forum that Eurolot was hiring with CPL(A) and only 300 h TT (plus ME and IR).

Is this still valid ?

I am a Polish national, but grew up and currently living in Argentina.
Holding ICAO CPL w/ 300 hs TT and ME & IR ratings, and 40 years old.

Any feedback or exra info / advice for chances, etc. is welcomed.

Best regards and have a great 2007.
Jose

[m4x]

So guys, do you think Frozen ATPL, MCC, IFR + ME rating with 220 hours will be enough to get a job in Poland in any of these companies?

I hold a Polish Passport and speak Polish almost fluent but lives in Sweden.

[Tomasz]

Requirements for eurolot are 300 hours, Forzen ATPL, MCC, mulit-IR, training is done in polish, but books and exams are in english. Might have a chance with jetair, Skytaxi, or exin

[WhiteEagle]

The FCOM and CBT are in English, but the training and exams are in Polish!!

[lc_aerobatics]

easiest way of getting to LOT is through EuroLOT
try http://www.eurolot.com.pl/osrodek/kwestionariusz%20osobowy.html
LC
EGKB , EPRZ

[Dentist]

LOT is looking for aprox 20 Pilots now, with Eurolot taking in whatever they can find. Normally from eurolot you progress to lot, but due to the shortage, they are taking guys off the street now. Some expansion plans are in the air but nothing very firm at present. Lots are leaving Eurolot for Wizz or a contract in Ireland, and about 5 have handed their resignation letters in at LOT, also leaving for likes like Wizz. need to know any more????
Cheers

[bartek82]

Hello Dentist,

I have send a PM to you, I really hope you could help me with some answers. Thanks

[Dentist]

From what's written in the Papers, you need to know Polish fluently, I believe reading and writing as well.
Cheers

[Dentist]

II PILOT

Wymagania wobec kandydatów:

wykształcenie minimum średnie
aktualna licencja ATPL(A) lub CPL i zaświadczenie o ukończonym szkoleniu teoretycznym zgodnym z wymaganiami JAR-FCL1 wraz ze zdanym egzaminem teoretycznym przed LKE
uprawnienia do wykonywania lotów wg przyrządów na samolotach wielosilnikowych (IR/ME)
międzynarodowe świadectwo radiotelefonisty
zaświadczenie o ukończeniu teoretycznego kursu współpracy w załogach wieloosobowych (MCC)
do PLL LOT: minimalny nalot 500 godzin jako pilot samolotowy (w tym 100 godzin nalotu dowódczego), do EuroLOT: 300 godzin
znajomości języka angielskiego na poziomie „operational” (zgodnie z wymogami ICAO Annex 1, załącznik do 1.2.9
znajomość języka polskiego
zaświadczenie o niekaralności
podstawowa znajomość MsOffice

Poszukujemy osób:


entuzjastycznie nastawionych do pracy
wysoce odpornych na negatywne działanie stresu
otwartych na współpracę w zespole
posiadających umiejętność podejmowania trafnych decyzji
odpowiedzialnych
w pełni dyspozycyjnych

AND THAT'S STRAIGHT FROM THEIR OFFER ON THE INTERNET
http://www.lot.com/Portal/PL/aspx/About_Us__Career_6843.aspx

Cheers

[cboga30]

Just wondering If a stand a chance with Lot. I was born in Poland lived in the Chicago land area for the last 20 years. I have 2000 tt 1000 jet in the EMB-145. I've worked for American Eagle for the last 1.5 years. So what would be my first step. Try applying with euro lot or lot or is it the same company. My polish is pretty good I struggle a bit with reading and can't write but that shouldn't be a problem as I could learn prior to any interviews. Any info would be gratefully appreciated. And any one what the pays like at either company. Thx in advance

[Tomasz]

I think with your experience you have a very good chance, with the hours you have you good probably good directly to LOT. But before you can apply you have to change your lisence over to the JAA, you have to write the 14 exams and here is the rest:
Holders of Overseas ATPL/IR to JAA/FCL ATPL/IR with more than 1500 hours and 500 hours multi-crew experience

Sufficient Ground Training at a JAA Approved ground school to satisfy the Chief Instructor that the candidate has achieved a standard that will enable him/her to be successful in the subjects undertaken.We are happy to recommend Bristol Ground School www.bristol.gs (http://www.bristol.gs/) or if you want a residential course, we recommend www.oxfordaviation.net (http://www.oxfordaviation.net/jaa/groundschool/index.htm).

For those having more than 500 hours multi-crew experience on a multi-crew simulator or aircraft candidates may elect to be observed by a CAA Flight Operations Training Inspector on the multi-crew aircraft type on which they are rated or follow the courses indicated above for those with less than 1500 hours. For those having less than 500 hours multi-crew experience the licence will revert to a CPL/IR until sufficient hours are obtained. A GFT skill test may be required at the discretion of FCL

The pay for eurolot first officer is 4500 polish zloty

[cboga30]

thx for the info 4500 zl thats only $1700 maybe Im having second thoughts

[stick&rudder15]

Quick question...
G.a for poland does anyone have any info websites i can go to...
I'm from Australia with an Polish passport, can speak the language, 350 tt, need to do my atpls and IFR in europe, any suggestions?
Cheers

[Tomasz]

www.lot.com (http://www.lot.com), www.eurolot.com.pl (http://www.eurolot.com.pl) (both of these websites employment page is in the polish language) www.skytaxi.aero (http://www.skytaxi.aero), www.exin.pl (http://www.exin.pl), www.jetair.pl (http://www.jetair.pl)

[sickBocks]

www.skyeurope.com [KRK]
www.wizzair.com [WAW, KTW, POZ, GDN]
www.airitaly.eu [new WAW base]
www.norwegian.no [WAW]
www.fischerair.pl [PrimaCharter, WAW]

[lc_aerobatics]

you forgot WWW.SKYEXPRESS.PL (http://www.SKYEXPRESS.PL)