View Full Version : Was this You? Chipmunk Close Call
Ewan Whosearmy
10th Jan 2006, 09:36
Scary stuff:
http://www.m90.org/index.php?id=10525
Dr Schlong
10th Jan 2006, 09:48
That's what you get for throwing yourself out of a perfectly serviceable ac!!
:eek:
ShyTorque
10th Jan 2006, 10:33
Scary video :eek: but it's already been posted elsewhere.
Off topic, and apologies, but one of 'lovelies' (Shopgirl21) on offer on that site is shown as residing in 'Upper Bleeding' in Sussex:) :) Not sure I'd want to take that one on.
airborne_artist
10th Jan 2006, 11:35
But had the pilot read the NOTAMs and checked his charts?
Hueymeister
10th Jan 2006, 12:17
It won't play...any other versions of it?
faultygoods
10th Jan 2006, 12:33
yes hueymeister, i cant get it to play either. So plse any one have another version. pleeeeeease
airborne_artist
10th Jan 2006, 12:38
Try http://m90.org/gallery/video/closecall.wmv
Professor Plum
10th Jan 2006, 13:16
The vid is also on ebaumsworld:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/flyby.html
The airprox report for this incident can be found here:
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/423/Bk13web.pdf
Its a 3.8mb pdf.
The report relating to this incident is on page 74/75.
I wonder if it's put the poor chap off parachuting.
Hueymeister
10th Jan 2006, 17:43
still won't work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeller_Gait
10th Jan 2006, 18:21
A lot similar to the Jag pilot (Stn Cdr?) at Lossie who banged out over the Moray Firth, and found the Nimrod that came to look for him passing 1000' below as he glided earthwards under his parachute. Just as well the PLB homing capability is only 2D.
How is that for service?
Onan the Clumsy
10th Jan 2006, 19:25
You could use one of those things they had in James Bond where they raised a tethered balloon and the C130 with the catching arms snagged the cable and pulled him up out of the dingy...
...except you wouldn't need the balloon :eek:
maccer82
11th Jan 2006, 00:03
Wasn't it a B17 in the Bond film?
Lon More
11th Jan 2006, 04:37
Onan you're thinking of the Fulton system, can't find photos; must still be classified :rolleyes:
The Skyhook System
By 1958, the Fulton aerial retrieval system, or Skyhook, had taken its final shape. A package that easily could be dropped from an aircraft contained the necessary ground equipment for a pickup. It featured a harness, for cargo or person, that was attached to a 500-foot, high-strength, braided nylon line. A portable helium bottle inflated a dirigible-shaped balloon, raising the line to its full height.
The pickup aircraft sported two tubular steel "horns" protruding from its nose, 30 feet long and spread at a 70-degree angle. The aircraft would fly into the line, aiming at a bright mylar marker placed at the 425-foot level. As the line was caught between the forks on the nose of the aircraft, the balloon was released at the same time the spring-loaded trigger mechanism (sky anchor) secured the line to the aircraft. As the line streamlined under the fuselage, it was snared by the pickup crew, using a J-hook. It was then attached to a powered winch and pulled on board.
Fulton first used instrumented dummies as he prepared for a live pickup. He next used a pig, as pigs have nervous systems close to humans. Lifted off the ground, the pig began to spin as it flew through the air at 125 mph. It arrived on board undamaged but in a disoriented state. Once it recovered, it attacked the crew.
More here (http://www.cia.gov/csi/studies/95unclass/Leary.html)
airborne_artist
11th Jan 2006, 06:49
Onan you're thinking of the Fulton system, can't find photos; must still be classified
Was still classified in 1985 - had a presentation at Eglin AFB - and despite my enthusiasm for jumping out of serviceable a/c, the prospect of jumping into one was pretty terrifying. The live testing had been fairly unsuccessful - at least one death, ISTR.
Onan the Clumsy
16th Jan 2006, 21:29
Wasn't it a B17 in the Bond film?
Indeed it was, right at the end of Thunderball wot I saw just the other night. I don't know why they needed instrumentation on the dummy, Bond was able to simply hang on to the young lovely during the rescue :hmm:
Once it recovered, it attacked the crew
Understandably perhaps?
Kim Il Jong
16th Jan 2006, 22:04
The Fulton system couldn't have been that classified, I'm sure I saw a demo of this at the Fairford Airshow, must have been early '80s when I think the show had a SAR theme. Back in the USAF organised (well) days.
Mind you I've got an addled brain.
BEagle
16th Jan 2006, 22:14
Put yourself in the pig's situation. Happily snuffling about wondering why you were wearing a silly harness, but hey, the weird scientists kept you well fed. Hmmm, one of those odd looking birds again, wonder what it....HOLY SH*T - what on earth is happening? Ba$tards, where's my sty gone, where's the ground gone and why am I spinning round and round. Thump, drag - OW! Right, you b*ggers, you're bŁoody for it now......
Kim Il Jong
16th Jan 2006, 22:23
Yes Beags, Imagine the look on the loadie's face....
Big Tudor
16th Jan 2006, 22:28
Kim,
After working with loadies for a number of years, I'm sure the sight of a pig being deposited in his aircraft brought a smile of joy and thoughts of a carnal nature to the loadie! ;)
Onan the Clumsy
16th Jan 2006, 23:38
According to the link, they did try it with sheep as well :hmm:
Out Of Trim
17th Jan 2006, 01:21
I also recall seeing this method used in the John Wayne film "The Green Beret" televised just a few days ago. Set in the Vietnam war era and was used to transport a VC Officer they had captured. :eek: :E
Onan the Clumsy
17th Jan 2006, 01:23
...unfortunately though he had earlier secreted the incriminating video film inside his rectal passage.
sorry, I keep forgetting I'm not in JetBlast any more
airsound
17th Jan 2006, 16:01
The Fulton system couldn't have been that classified, I'm sure I saw a demo of this at the Fairford Airshow, must have been early '80s when I think the show had a SAR theme. Back in the USAF organised (well) days.
Mind you I've got an addled brain.
Kim Il - I've just dug out some old commentary notes from International Air Tattoo (Fairford) 1981 (I think). We had a demo from the MC-130 'Blackbird' of the 7th Spec Ops Sqn at Rhein Main. This was the Fulton, as described above, and it worked! Only a dummy though - no volunteers from all the 5000 volunteers who run the IAT.
Kim Il Jong
17th Jan 2006, 16:30
Flippin' eck, my brain can't be as addled as I thought.
DaveW
17th Jan 2006, 16:40
It's not difficult to find pics of the Fulton Recovery system on the Internet. Here are two from just one site:
http://8thattacksqdnassoc.tripod.com/Pics/mc130h_fulton.jpg
http://8thattacksqdnassoc.tripod.com/Pics/mc130_49FultonSystema.jpg
As well as the Fairford displays, the system was regularly demonstrated at the Mildenhall airshows from the early 80s onwards.
movadinkampa747
17th Jan 2006, 17:52
Well you may have been foiled this time. Were they in cloud when the photos were taken?
DaveW
17th Jan 2006, 18:24
Dammit - Bloody Internet. :rolleyes:
I Googled for "MC-130 Fulton" images and found several, including those. You can see them if you go here (http://8thattacksqdnassoc.tripod.com/AfterVietnam.html).
As the page says, "Long load times. Graphics intensive page due to loading of photos. Please be patient... " - the pics in question are about 3/4 way down the page.
Well OT, but there's also a couple of fine pics of an MC-130 simultaneously refuelling an MH-53 and an MH-47 over Kuwait City on that page also.