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RB211-524G
3rd Jan 2006, 08:45
I was wondering how exactly Cathay's code share works.
#1-If a British Airways flight is flying to a Cathay code share destination do they use the call sign "Cathay 123" or is it "speedbird 123" ?
#2- How are the finances of such a flight distributed?
#3- If asked during an interview: "what are some of Cathay's destinations?", do they consider the codeshare destinations as actual Cathay destinations or are they simply an extended service that Cathay is able to connect a passenger with?
ok hopefully that all makes sense.:ok:

alangirvan
3rd Jan 2006, 11:35
Codesharing just allows an airline to extend its network by getting another airline to fly stages on its behalf. If you look in the BA timetable, you will see that BA puts its code on a flight between HKG and Auckland which is flown by CX. BA puts its code on several CX flights around Asia - cities like Kuala Lumpur. It some cases this does not always give you the shortest time between London and those cities - why would a BA passenger want to fly to HKG and then fly three hours back to KUL? BA has done the deal with CX and the passenger has a longer journey time.

The financial arrangement is that BA would get a cut of the money that CX gets for flying the HKG -AKL leg.


You can have more than one airline code sharing on a service. If you look at the departure boards at the airport, you will see three airlines listed for what is the one flight.


Someone should offer a prize for the most interesting round the world itinerary where you do not ride on the airline you thought you were going to be on

mr Q
20th Jan 2006, 12:06
But no code sharing between CX and any airline operating the LHR-BHD route. Result?? SKY HIGH prices and terrifying encounters with the rudest airline ground staff in any part of the world I have travelled to.... BRITISH MIDLAND

RB211-524G
20th Jan 2006, 20:24
ok, i am still wondering if CX would consider a code share destination as an actual CX destination or simply a destination that is available to pax travelling on CX through code share?:ok:

petitfromage
22nd Jan 2006, 08:18
The answer is "it depends".
Some codeshare routes....eg: Hanoi & Beijing are CX destinations whilst others eg: Copenhagen, New Orleans are not.
Have a look here for the complete route structure, incl codeshare & joint venture destinations
http://www.cathaypacific.com/intl/plan/routes/0,,,00.html
In terms of advertising, yes....Cathay fly to "92 destinations". But are they actual Cathay destinations? No.
Can you get there on a Cathay ticket? Yes (maybe) but will you have a Cathay boarding pass? No.
As an extreme example, Cathay codeshare with SCNF trains in France and the Eurostar between LON & PAR. I would hardly call Le Mans a Cathay destination.....but we can get you there!!

Hartington
9th Feb 2006, 13:57
In regard to call signs. Generally speaking, if BA put their flight number on a CX flight it remains a CX flight and uses the CX call sign.

BA are an interesting example. They have a franchise system as well as code share. In the Franchise system an airline effectively loses its identity and becomes BA. Take BMed as an example. They don't operate their own flights - they only operate their flights under BA flight numbers. But they do remain a separate legal entity and, as such, use a Bmed call sign not BA.

TwinAisle
9th Feb 2006, 15:49
The financial arrangement is that BA would get a cut of the money that CX gets for flying the HKG -AKL leg.


Not that way around. A passenger booking this service will be travelling on a BA ticket - and will have paid BA for it, so BA will have all the money. For the CX operated sector, at some point CX will bill BA the agreed fare for HKG-AKL, which in practice will be offset by bills for CX ticketed passengers who have done, for example, HKG-EDI with CX/BA.

CX's flight HKG-AKL will operate as a pure CX service in terms of all airport/airway billing, callsigns, etc etc. The fact that BA have put passengers on board it matters not a jot - it is still a CX service. The codeshare thing is purely a marketing arrangement rather than an operational one.

Hope this helps

TA :)