Fellow QF cadets

[Fingerscalk]

Hi guys

Just wanted to know from previous cadets, whats it like going to A*r N*rth.
They have told me I have to go to Darwin for some hard yards, before starting with QF mainline, but I really just want stay in Sydney. Is this going to benefit me or is it just a waste of time?
I would prefer to go to Jetstar if I had to.

Your Info would be appreiciated
Thanks fellow QC's

[Chilli Tarts]

Let me just get the pop corn............................

[Transition Layer]

Do you know Borat? Say g'day to him for me.

[scatlover]

please, please tell me this is a wind up

[T3000]

Hard yards working for Air N**th. Thats the funniest thing i've heard for a long time. try flying for a GA company then you will experience the hard yards.
What can you expect. Someone to hold your hand for 2 years in a holiday destination. then another 10 in QF.
Don't stress, money buys everything.

[Fingerscalk]

T3000
My topic was aimed at fellow QC's. If you dont have anything good to say then don't say it at all.

[Keg]

You want some advice from 'fellow' Qantas cadets Fingers? From one ex Cadet to another, quit whilst you're (way) behind!

Have a serious think about your original post and about the impression you have left not just every other person in GA but every other person who reads this forum- QF and otherwise. Some of your cadet predecessors would have LOVED to be sent to Darwin for a couple of years to fly with Air North or anyone else for that matter. Most people busting their backsides in GA would also LOVE the opportunity to work for Air North to gain some experience. Waste of time? Get a grip.

It's no wonder people rag on cadets so badly! Sometimes they deserve it! :( :{

[scatlover]

Get to fly in challenging weather
Get to meet a great bunch of characters up in Darwin
Opportunity to fly some good equipment
Build up credibility when you start with mainline
opportunity to develop decision making skills
heaps of hands on time
see the tough dirty side of the industry
heaps of great memories
give some credibility to the cadet program
live in a new city
learn
grow up

no. sounds like a waste of time mate. insist on nothing less than a 380 command.

thank god most of the cadets are more like keg and not that other gay bar loitering homosexual

[planemad_bk]

Just a question to you, mate....

If you're not going to be happy flying the aircraft in A.N, what makes you think you're going to be happy flying a Bus/Boeing for the next 30 odd years?

[dodgybrothers]

deep breath..................count to 10...........exhale...........

[Defenestrator]

Was going to give this peanut a serve. Thought better of it. Not worth it. Good luck Tiger. You'll go far. Hopefully soon. :suspect:

[Keg]

For the first time ever I've found myself hoping that this is truly a wind up and I've been sucked in big time. The alternative is too horrible to bear! :ouch: :sad: :(

[Gateway Customer]

This is going to be great kids.
I can see some very fired up people with a little to say!!!!

Wind up or not, Qf Cadets are now going to be looked at like dirt.
If this is your attitude get out of aviation now before I have to sit next to you for hours and listen to your "tough ride" stories

GC

[maxgrad]

Gee I thought I had to do the hard yards in GA. Now you tell me I've got to fly a pencil in YPDN. Damn, thought I was almost there.

Get a grip you twit.

The company I work for has some cadets. Generally they work their a's off and try to learn as much as possible. A percentage of them do not (yet) understand the good and bad they are missing out on.

You, with your simple minded post have just shoved a fair number of faces in the dirt.

[Poto]

Get your finger out of your a@se d!ckhead
:confused:

[Capt Claret]

Not a cadet, or ex cadet but been round the block a few times.

Save this thread on your hard drive, then, delete it from this forum, then, read the saved thread and ask yourself do you really want to fly.

Your original post displays an extreme level of naivety. There would be very few pilots in Australia that haven't had to

Leave Sydney (or whichever city is home)
go bush or to regional Australia


And even less would have been able to walk into a regional like AN without doing so.

Talk about wanting to start at the top. :sad: :rolleyes:

[Capt Snooze]

Not a bad wind-up!!!!

Low key but pushed all the right buttons.


Let's see........
Registered today, grammar and spelling all in order.

Now which of our regulars is having a little fun over a nice glass of red? ;) ;)

[pakeha-boy]

Keg...your first post was the best,leave it at that........these young fellas want their noses wiped and toilet paper to wipe their ar@e,s.....youve done your "hard yards" when they put you in a box and bury you..........kotua

[flyhardmo]

Your worried about leaving sydney, i had to leave the bloody country to get some experience. Its been an adventure, lots of fun, lots of crap, met great people and havnt regretted. if you dont want that job i'll take it and so will a sh!t load of other pilots looking for a lucky break.
Give yourself an uppercut mate:ouch:

[126.7]

A friend of mine got into QC and is a top bloke his attitude is great, he loves his sport, beer, woman. He is prepared to do what it takes to get to where his goal is. He also has taken the time to find out on his own accord what the industry is like in all facets of GA in all parts of the country. It is a real bloody shame that there are some that are still drivin Daddy's car and phoning home when they run out of money at the local brothel.

Growe up idiot, do the homework. Also I don't think the forum was for QC only, perhaps you could ask woomera for your own little space.

Have a winge ya girl.

[iceblock]

You forgot to mention he seems to be from Kazakstan. Maybe it's Ali G, looking to lie low for a while until this business with the Kazakstan Authorities dies down....

[tinpis]

Dont you worry Fingers, the fish are biting pretty hard in Darwhine as well http://www.augk18.dsl.pipex.com/Smileys/fishing3.gif

[pakeha-boy]

tinpis mate...thats good ,I like that ...big fish too........da ya thunk it gut tha massage....ika:confused:

[T3000]

well Fingers, I think that just about covers it.

[Transition Layer]

For those who aren't sure what iceblock is talking about, have a look at http://www.borat.kz

:D
TL

[CaptHairDryer]

FINGERSKALK you are a f#$@%n wanK@ buddy!!! Oh I'm 21 years of age and my dads check and training on the 763, and he's forked out $88,000 (or potentially mate's rates) for my CPL/ ATPL/IREX/ and my braz endorsement, but I DON'T WANT TO FLY THE BRAZ, I want to go to pornstar on a nice new scarebus *stamps feet*, dude your probably still in your ****i^ 172 flying round the skies as we speak, mate I am 23 and push a trolley around a red rat aeroplane day in day out blowing my dosh on my CPL licence, one day dreaming of being up the front, because I cannot afford $88,000, to every kid out there who dreams for nothing more than flying for the red rat, you are a spoilt little shi^! I'd be happy to get a gig in a 182 throwing jumpers out for 2 hours a day "voluntarily", go to Darwin, thank your lucky stars your on a one way ticket to QF, stop being a spoilt 'captain's son' and GO WHERE YOUR TOLD!!!!

"waste of time" <------I just wanna start swinging punches.....10987654321

end rant*****

[Altimeters]

mate i don't know how you passed psych with that attidude. You're clearly in need of some maturity, and definetly need to grow up. Its a privelage to be a cadet! don't abuse what you've been given, believe me, QC recruiting will tell you to bugger off when you front up for mainline if they saw this.

In your case darwin IS a waste of time, because you don't deserve it, stay in Sydney and tell Qantas its jetstar asia or nothing, they'll tell you to bugger off, and you'll have to do some hard yards and growing up somewhere else. better for everyone. and don't bring other QCs into this, most wont want to associate with someone who gives them a bad rep!

[Fingerscalk]

HI Guys

I would just like to apologise to everyone I seemed to have upset. I am just new to the industry and didnt realise the bitterness that some people hold for QC's. I guess I have just learned one tuff lesson.

Yours sincerly
Fingers:ouch:

[Keg]

Fingers, I was gentle before, I'll be gentle again. This latest post of yours hardly fixes things.

... didnt realise the bitterness that some people hold for QC's.

This is NOT about 'some people', it's about YOU! This issue is NOT about others being bitter towards cadets, it's about others being bitter towards anyone (cadets, GA or military) on this forum with the wrong attitude. Your first post showed that attitude and the fact that you're a cadet just rubs peoples noses in it.

Whilst I've copped the occasional bit of grief for being a former cadet, it's been relatively minor and mostly from small minded people. However, the reason I've copped so little is because I had to EARN the respect of those that I flew with and the other contributors on this forum. I did this by having the right attitude towards both the way I post on this forum and when I sign on at work.

Check attitude, re-adjust and most importantly, think BEFORE you press 'submit reply'.

[pilot4life]

You've embarrassed yourself
You've embarrassed Qantas
You've embarrassed every (most) QF cadet's

You've insulted every other pilot actually doing the 'hard yards' in GA who, through no fault of their own, didn't get a stint as a QF cadet, and who one day dreams to be in the same position as yourself.

But most importantly, you've insulted every hard working professional pilot working for Air North. You owe an apology to them and every other pilot who would give his/her left leg to work for Air North.

P4L

[Vetical Limit]

I feel very sorry to hear that the people who have responded know only to respond in an offensive and degrading manner to you

aussie78, don't you think what this kid was saying was totally offensive and degrading to all those pilots out there slugging out the tough GA yards? How would you react if some punk has inexplicably patronised and insulted everything that you might have spent years busting your guts to achieve.

Don't give this kid a pat on the back and dismiss it as naiveity, treat this sort of comment with the disdain and insult it deserves.

P4L, i couldn't agree with you more.

[Bumpfoh]

I pity you young man.
Hopefully you have learnt a lesson as you say otherwise I imagine your time in aviation let alone in QF (god help us) will be short lived.
Should you make it into QF mainline I will no doubt spot you a mile away when on the flight deck pre departure. You'll be the dill NO ONE bothers to communicate with, not withstanding CRM protocols!

Father would undoubtedly disapprove of your stupidity after spending so much money on you.

Visit the room of mirrors!!!:mad:

[The Bunglerat]

Fingers, you really are going to have to learn to choose your words more carefully.

Whilst it's true there are some small-minded folk out there who have a chip on their shoulder concerning cadets, the true gentlemen and professionals of aviation do not harbour any bitterness towards YOU - just your ATTITUDE.

Many pilots feel you do not deserve the opportunity you've been given, because you haven't served a true apprenticeship. Compare...

Aspiring GA Pilot:

First job = instructing/scenic flying/parachute dropping for minimal - and I mean MINIMAL pay (if getting paid at all), and inspite of this he's still grateful just to be given the opportunity to fill up some pages in his logbook. Timeframe of 1 year, maybe 2.

Second job = charter flying (multi-engine if he's lucky), on an aircraft at least 30 years old, barely airworthy, autopilot doesn't work very well, radar (one can only dream) doesn't work too well either, still on minimal pay (but that's okay, the second job as a casual bottleshop attendant makes sure he can stock the cupboard with 2-minute noodles for the week so he won't go too hungry), actually come to think of it, if he ditched the charter job and went fulltime at the bottleshop, he might even move up another tax bracket! Timeframe anywhere between 2 to 3 years.

Third job = Regional airline (turbine if he's lucky), aircraft in better condition and the equipment actually works for a change, money is now starting to resemble what the average punter considers a normal wage (but still below the national average). Timeframe 1 to 2 years.

Fourth job = Major airline. Whoo-hoo! Gets to fly some heavy metal, big ego boost, money is now affording the privilege of enjoying some quality of life (until you factor in the sizeable loans that still have to be paid back to cover the cost of all that training), so maybe there's not so much left in the pocket after all, but at least he's finally achieved his dream of flying jets for the majors. It only took the poor bastard anywhere from 5 to 8 years (and that's after training, don't forget), but hey, he's finally living the dream, right?

And now the Qantas Cadet...

First job = F/O on a Metro/Brazilia/whatever, in other words something that actually has some decent performance, decent equipment, flying regional airline ops, ...Hang on a minute, isn't this Job No. 3??? Nah, he got to skip the first two and the associated 1 to 4 years of flying crap equipment for no money.

Second job = The Big Rat. Whoo hoo! B744, B747, A330, A380, oh bugger, decisions decisions (actually they tell you what you're going to fly, but you don't care because it looks sexy no matter what, and you can stroke your willy while thinking about all the hot girlies you're going to score with - because you fly JETS for Qantas). The only thing that sucks in all of this is having to kill 18 months bumming around in your Metro before you get a seat at the table.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Maybe now you can see why you've incurred so much wrath. You have been extremely fortunate to be selected for a programme that fast-tracks your career in a very serious way. This is why there are some out there who feel you haven't earned it. As already mentioned, a stint with A*r N*rth is most certainly not doing the hard yards. There are scum-of-the-earth jobs out there that you will never even come close to experiencing (nor would you want to). And there are many talented, hard-working, deserving professional pilots who, through no fault of their own, will never get to realize their dream of flying for any airline at all, not just QF.

This has been a very sobering lesson for you indeed, and in some ways I pity you - but you're certainly the wiser for it now.

P.S. I have had extensive experience working with QF cadets, and they have my utmost respect. Nearly all of them have been extremely hard-working, respectful, and most of all grateful for being in a position that I and many others will never experience. They know what's at stake, and they have all looked forward eagerly to any opportunity to gain experience at a GA/regional level for a couple of years before going to Mainline. Gibbo, if you're reading this: Way to go mate.

[Capt Claret]

Fingerscalk

The tennor of your opening post, and that commenting on the bitterness of some folk towards QCs, leads me to suspect that you were born with the proverbial silver spoon.

I have no inate like or dislike of QC but your posts lead me to believe that you will not survive in aviation on your own merits. It'll only be because you have a mentor who will look after you, come what may, or your folk/s have influence.

Pity. :ugh:

[CaptHairDryer]

:mad:FINGERSKALK:mad:

Do yourself a favour pal, and get TF of the prune now (in your early days of flying the scarebus), go on do it! (Theres a function where you can delete your user name). Because you'll just open your mouth one day, then the next you'll have pissed off I'd say about 20 ppl. Jeez can't wait to do non-stop LHR with you one day up the front of the 773, hearing about your 'hard days' on the braz in that TERRIBLE TERRIBLE place known as darwin. How dare QF send you there!!!! Do they know who you are????? :yuk:

ARSE!!!!!!!

[Transition Layer]

Keg,

You are doing your pprune reputation a great deal of harm by even bothering to reply to this. I thought you were better than that! :ok: It is funny watching everyone get worked up though!

C'mon guys, has to be a wind up!!! Woop Woop, Pull Up!

TL
:rolleyes:

[pakeha-boy]

Trasition layer...mate!! .it has nothing to do with bent out of shape/.....it has do do with learning a few leasons in life.....is that so bad???...he may have taken a bit of flak, but so be it.....when you mess with the bull ,you have to take the horns once in a while.!!!

Keg is absolutley right!!!!..this airline buisness as you well know is not the "kindest" of places to be...I, like you will put my best foot forward for the new fellas and offer the,hopefully,best route to go..etc etc .da da da da...BUT...when you "offer" that type of tripe ..you will get [email protected] "silver" spoon to which others have inferred is all over this post........most of us have had to "do the buisness" to get to where we are today......I wish this person the best of luck...but to think it should be handed on a plate......f@#k...off.....riri

[qcpilot]

Hi Fingerscalk, i just finnished my stint at airnorth and i didnt really enjoy it. So happy to finally get it over and done with and get a real job with the big red.

Darwin was such a hole there's nothing to do up there. Its good to be based back in sydney now. Honestly, i dont think i would have liked Jetstar Asia either. Its too hot and humid in singapore and you have to work too hard as an A320 FO. Much prefer to be a SO on a 744.

I feel sorry for you as you are about to begin your 2 years of torture. My advice is just keep telling youself its only for 2 years. It does drag on a bit but eventually its all over.

Good luck mate.
Your fellow QC

[iceblock]

Yeah good one mate!! The old wind up was running out of steam so fingerscalk got a new username.

[bushy]

This is a very interesting thread, which tells us a lot about the people who post on here, and identifies a problem that GA faces.

Fingers has indicated that he is not prepared to leave his comfortable base in Sydney, or to fly those Little aeroplanes.

He is just the same as many of the others who post on here, The only difference seems to be his acess to finance and a cadetship.

Too meny times we see people complaining about "doing the hard yards"(big heros), working for poor pay(fools), and the terrible aeroplanes they are "forced" to fly.

Just like Fingers.

[5humptey]

alllllrighttttteeee then, my turn,

First of all, even if this is a wind up, the QF Cadets or future wanna be cadets reading this can at least take away some thing from this.

Lesson 1. Dont be a F*ck Head like this coksmoka.

Lesson 2. Apprecite where you are and what you are doing, cause you never know what is waiting or going to happen in the future.

Lesson 3. Never forget where you came from, as one day u may be bitching about something really gay sitting up pretty in ya jet and its times like these that u need to remember that u have mates who never got into the heavy jets and would love to be where you are.

Here endeth the lessons, for now.

Now, Coksmoka, time for your spray.

Here is what u need to do, to learn to appreciate the adventure you are about to embark on.

After u have been in YPDN (thats Darwin u cok) for a while, head to the bar on a Friday night with the rest of the pilots. Have a few beers, then bring up how u hate Darwin and being on the Braz.

What will happen next may surprise you, but i will give u a hint as to what may (ie. will) occur.

The group of pilots will go quiet. Put there beers down, look at you in a weird way. one will probably say "Pardon me? What did u say?" Next thing as u say "I hate being here in Dar.."

SMACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

U will feel maybe the first few punches, but as soon as the pint glasses start raining down, most likely u will pass out.

The best thing will be, after some one has p*ssed on you, is that the beers will flow again and life will be much sweeter with out you.

But my most favourite thing to come out of this is that a spot will be open on the Braz for someone who had done the hard yards to get there.

You are a tosser.

[DeBurcs]

This is highly amusing. Even Keg replied. You've done well Fingers.

I enjoy the odd wind-up but have not wound up the masses as well as this for quite some time.

Please PM me so we can laugh about it in private.


By the way, despite this being a wind-up, I hardly think You've embarrassed Qantas
You've embarrassed every (most) QF cadet'sis accurate. Most normal people don't come to pprune looking for the Real Word on flying and life in general. I don't think he even embarrassed himself but he DID embarrass all you guys who've fallen over each other in your outrage.

[Jet_A_Knight]

Beautiful, beautiful windup :ok:











i hope:{

[T3000]

Irrespective of whether it's a wind up or not, it has done damage to the reputation of QC. can u imagine going out on the darwin scence and announcing that yr a cadet. better off saying that u are looking for a job or that you are an apprentice plumber. not good

[DeBurcs]

it has done damage to the reputation of QCNo it hasn't. No more than when some tosser of an old fart ex-cadet QF captain starts moaning on the tower freq about someone else being lined up ahead of him or his eggs not being done just right...... oh wait.... doh!

:rolleyes:

Anyway what are Darwhine GA drivers doing on pprune to see the supposed "damage to QC reputation"??? In my day we couldn't even afford a pager, now these fcuks have got PCs, net access, spare time... what next??

Jebus you guys got it good these days.

[maxgrad]

at least you had a paper bag......in my day....coal mine dawn till....

[shnev]

Fingers, why don't ya sprinkle some of ya fairy dust our way sugar? :bored:

[Charliethewonderdog]

Just because some people haven't had the best run carreer wise doesn't mean that the next driver has to do it tough as well.

FFS what does a CPL cost these days anyhow?? 50k - 60k??
Big investment.
Ok Cadetship is 88k? for what? a better than average chance of getting into Qantarse. Makes sence to me.

I'd choose Jetstar asia over Airnorth anyday. Any idiot would. So I dont see anything wrong with what Fingerscalk said.

And for those who think it's disrespectful to the punters in GA or Airnorth get a life and grow up. You failed, missed out, missed the boat, etc....etc... deal with it enjoy your job or get out.


Some people on here are so bitter and twisted it worries me that they are allowed to operate aircraft of any level.


p.s the best flying you'll ever do will be in GA. If the money was there we would all go back.

[5humptey]

'wonderdog,

you are correct in saying that not everyone has an easy run. iam sure most people dont. having said that, it is even more important for those people who have a good run to realise the fortunes they have.

You say spending $88k for a better shot at flying for QF is a good idea. Maybe, but who the hell has that kinda $$ when they are 18??

The rumor mill is now running wild with alot of mates who are S/o's at QF starting to get p*ssed off at these little fuking cadet cok's who now by the grace of god get given a "ghost seniority number" while they are on industry placement for 2 years.

BIGGEST LOAD OF FUKING ****E EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These little fukers now get a top turboprop job for 2 years, all paid for by QF and whilst they are there complaining about how they have to "do time on a braz in Darwin or Dash8 in perth" they are all the time moving up the seniroty list in QF. I guess if all they have done is suck on mumy's tit then YPDN would be a little scary.......Then these cok smokers stroll into the Rat thinking they are the best thing since sliced bread, jump the que and sit pretty at the top, pulling their little weiners.

Reckon the reception will be warm. ******* doubtful. Can imagine a few peoples responses to these little ****es. "Oh you are one of the newbies are u" "Yes i did it hard in GA for 2 years on a Braz and now iam at the top of the list" "You scabby little kunt!!"

:ouch: :ok:

[qcpilot]

hahaha this is a good laugh keep it going boys

[avi8r]

Wind up or not, Fingerscalk you're a moron!

I've got about a dozen mates up north between Darwin, Kunners and Broome who would love a gig with Air North and do the "hard yards".

For most of us who go up, Air North is at best our second flying job. You've been given a gig with Air North after which you're on QF mainline....and you're whinging that you want Jetstar.

Seriously...wake the :mad: up.

I've got nothing against QF cadets who've got the $$ and the "right stuff" to get through. One of my best mates was a cadet, and he worked his ass off to get in, get thru and he didn't complain about having to leave Sydney and do those hard yards.

It's cadets like you, that give cadets like him a bad reputation amongst the rest of GA!

Ya stupid :mad:

[desmotronic]

The qantas cadets who very nearly hit the hills at canberra few months also gives cadets a bad name.

[boeingwest]

desmotronic:

Don't forget ol' Johnn0 who tried to use the longreach as his personal golf cart in bangers!!! Woops, RH seat 4U!! he too was a 'cadet'.

Then there's the mystery "767 heading into PER one night, PER had fog, learmonth not in range, so the Skipper (ex Cadet OH NO :oh:) says can't land so we'll ditch tha kunt, until AN 762 Check & Training invited himself onto the flight deck and said 'move over boys, fly it through the minima on the ILS' haha what crok of roo ****e!!!

Lack of? Or just bad luck?

[airway_manual]

Fingerscalk

I think you are missing the "BIG PICTURE", I think you need to get a life....... wan#er.

[Charliethewonderdog]

you still have to pass the QANTarse recruiting procedure

you still pay for your training. Mind you pay a bit more than the average CPL but you get a job at the end, plus more specialised training. Smart I would say.

Not all Cadets have rich parents and in-fact I know of some whose parents have Mortgaged their house.

Don’t Blame the Cadets, Blame QANTAS for allowing this to happen. Blame Airnorth, Skippers, pearl……. for Taking the Cadets, creating the resentment that the Cadets get when they take the jobs that the GA drivers aspire too.

Almost every other Airline in the World has a cadet program.

[4SPOOLED]

We all end up at the same place oneday anyway....old and retired.

Who cares how you get to that airline job, as long as you hold onto your owns beliefs and dont lower your standard (honesty integrity and decency are mine) then its all good and you will get there if you believe in yourself (thats what im hoping anyway).

I am often slightly peeved with the silverspoon crew, but at the end of the day i am proud i have payed my own way through training, resulting in all sorts of finacial dificulty and countless other hardship, but im still here and im still saying bring it on and im still working on my skill, and will continue to do so.

[blueloo]

boeingwest - not quite - it was a classic jumbo, for that incident, it was a QF senior check on board not ansett., the other incident was the captain you refer to - which was in a 767, but a different senario- on his final command check- he passed - his decisions on that day given his information appear to be sound.

[Keg]

Ah, never let the truth get in the way of a wild yarn.

A QF classic was inbound to Perth from internaional when PH went unforecast fog. They diverted to Learmonth which went low cloud as they were on descent. The trainee skipper on his final command check (current 744 fleet manager?) decided after shooting an approach (non precision) or two and missing out, that letting down over water and coming back in that way would get the optimal result. Hatton-Ward was the SCC and he's LONG retired- his son Guy goes to my church.

Unfortunately, it often gets dressed up as a crew preparing to ditch! :rolleyes: What a crock indeed! :E

[drshmoo]

Dear Qantas Cadet Pilots of the future.
Especially the ones sitting sipping lattes in the leafy north shore of Sydney etc. Leaving Sydney is a good thing. It will still be there when you get back. I was raised in the ghettos of Sydneys eastern suburbs;) and my GA career has taken me to the bright lights of messemate way, places such as "the Tav" , been forcefully removed in the Rowie in broome and sucked back cold ones in Rorkes and discovery in Darwin. And guess what after 2 years when I came back, the Icebergs were still there (renovated), (deleted). My point is, Sydney is going no where, so don’t worry, two years in Darwin and you'll come back to your leafy pad in Turramurra, Gordon etc and mummy will be there to do your washing etc. Your same mates from school will still be there.

While you are in Darwin remember, go out and have the best time you can have, meet the other pilots slogging it out in the communities. They will be the best blokes to party with in town cause they appreciate being back in Darwin for maybe just one night for the entire month. eg noodle a few years back who was unleashed on Darwin once a month from the bright lights of Ngukr (cant even spell the place).
These guys/girls are flying C210s and C206s and they are extremely lucky to have these jobs. They are looking forward to getting on a clapped out Navajo or C310 in 2 years time then maybe with a strike of luck get picked up by a regional like Airnorth or Pearl etc. So show respect to these people by not rubbing their faces in it by out rite self promotion and bragging cause one day down the track you may just be sharing an overnight with them in some foreign port for QF and people do have looooong memories.

As far as starting on a regional, wow what an opportunity. Enjoy it. It took me 4 and half years in GA and now I've only just got on a Metro and I'm so stoked to have gotten this opportunity. Again away from the ghettos of Sydney’s eastern suburbs.

Congrats for making the grade so far to get into the cadetship, now you have to make the grade as a good pilot and most importantly a good bloke in the industry, which will be much harder

Drshmoo

Dr Schmoo, hopefull the phrase I deleted was used without malice, given the racial turmoil in SYD currently.

W