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stue
22nd Nov 2005, 17:29
Im still abit new to all this, so just a quick question.

When people talk about an "N-reg" aircraft, what actually is it they mean? I know that a G reg is one that is reg in the UK and so on, but where is N and why doesnt it follow the reg "G-xxxx"?

Iv had a search through different threads but i havent found an explanation?

Cheers all!!:)

Johnm
22nd Nov 2005, 17:59
OK I'll fall for it

N is the registration letter for the USA equivalent to G for UK F for France and D for Germany etc.etc.

dublinpilot
22nd Nov 2005, 18:00
Stue,

Aircraft registered in different countries have registrations that begin with a particular letter or series of letters.

As you know, all aircraft registered in the UK have registrations beginning with G.

The N refers to aircraft registered in the United States of America.

What comes after the country part seems to differ from country to country. For example in the UK 4 letters follow after the G.

In the USA, letter and numbers can follow the N (I'm not sure how many!).

Aircraft registered in Ireland have registrations beginning with EI, followed by three letters (no numbers).

I hope that helps!

dp

Whopity
23rd Nov 2005, 07:23
Registrations letters are internationally registered and bear a close resemblance to Radio Callsigns. The UK is allocated G and M.

We use to use M registrations for international flights in the military e.g MCRIT the Hastings from 1066 Flight!

stue
23rd Nov 2005, 08:01
Cheers all.

ok, another question then? what is the problem with N reg aircraft then? some people seem to like them and others hate them? or is it just me thats understood it wrong?

sorry, i know its a bit simple, but you dont learn if you dont ask!

thanks! :)

IO540
23rd Nov 2005, 08:47
You are asking for an essay on aviation regulation, politics, and this could be pages of stuff - even if one keeps out of contentious issues.

I don't know how much you know about flying but, in a nutshell, to get worldwide IFR privileges you generally need the country of aircraft registration to match the country which issued the Instrument Rating (IR). Why? Don't even ask.

Here in Europe, a pilot can get the Euro (JAA) IR, or he can go abroad and get some other IR.

To fly IFR in a G-reg plane, you need the JAA IR. This involves a very long ground school and other hassle. It's designed for airline pilots. There is no special Europe-wide provision/concession for private pilots.

An IR which is much more accessible for a private owner-pilot is the American (FAA) one. But this needs a US-reg (N-reg) plane.

Hence you see N-reg planes based in the UK, and other countries in Europe have similar issues.

There are other reasons for N-reg e.g. many planes have not been certified in Europe, so they have to be on the N register to fly at all.

Politically, this is provocative to the national aviation regulators, and they are trying to stop it. But it's difficult, because international aviation treaties permit unrestricted visitation. So only long term parking can ever be controlled.

There is a lot of sneering at the N-reg scene, by some Euro IR holders who regard themselves are superior, which is another thing.... UK flying schools also don't like it because they can't do the training... well actually they can do nearly all of it but it's a lot cheaper in the USA. The whole picture gets very muddy because of various ways of doing it.

Aussie Andy
23rd Nov 2005, 15:28
The following web-page lists aircraft registration prefixes by country, e.g. G for UK, F for France, VH for Australia, N for US, C for Canada etc - see http://www.homepages.mcb.net/bones/04fs/data/FSICAO.htm or http://www.helis.com/howflies/aviacode.php for example...

Hence, "N-reg" = US registered.

Andy

Code Country
3A Monaco
3B Mauritius
3C Equatorial Guinea
3D Swaziland
3X Guinea Bissau
4K Azerbaijan
4L Georgia
4R Sri Lanka
4X Israel
5A Libya
5B Cyprus
5H Tanzania
5N Nigeria
5R Madagascar
5T Mauritania
5U Niger
5V Togo
5W Western Samoa
5X Uganda
5Y Kenya
60 Somalia
6V Senegal
6W Senegal
6Y Jamaica
70 Yemen
7P Lesotho
7QY Malawi
7T Algeria
8P Barbados
8Q Maldives
8R Guyana
9A Coatia
9G Malta
9J Zambia
9K Kuwait
9L Sierra Leone
9M Malaysia
9N Nepal
9Q Zaire
9U Burundi
9V Singapore
9XE Rwanda
9Y Tobago & Trinidad
9Y Trinidad & Tobago
A-2 Botswana
A3 Tonga
A40 Oman
A5 Bhutan
A6 United Arab Emirates
A7 Qatar
A9C Bahrain
AP Pakistan
B China
C Canada
C2 Nauru
C5 Gambia
C6 Bahamas
C9 Mozambique
CC Chile
CF Canada
CN Morocco
CP Bolivia
CR Portugal
CS Portugal
CU Cuba
CX Uruguay
D Germany
D2 Angola
D4 Cape Verde
DQ Fiji
EC Spain
EI Ireland
EJ Ireland
EK Armenia
EL Liberia
EP Iran
ER Republic of Moldova
ES Estonia
ET Ethiopia
EW Belarus
EX Kyrgyzstan
EY Tajikistan
EZ Turkmenistan
F France
G United Kingdom
H4 Solomon Islands
HA Hungary
HB Liechtenstein (plus national emblem)
HB Switzerland (plus national emblem)
HC Ecuador
HH Haiti
HI Dominican Republic
HK Columbia
HL Republic of Korea
HP Panama
HR Honduras
HS Thailand
HZ Saudi Arabia
I Italy
J2 Djibouti
J3 Grenada
J5 Guinea Bissau
J6 St. Lucia
J7 Dominican Republic
J8 Grenadines
J8 St. Vincent
JA Japan
JY Jordan
LN Norway
LQ Argentina
LV Argentina
LX Luxembourg
LY Lithuania
LZ Bulgaria
N United States of America
OB Peru
OD Lebanon
OE Austria
OH Finland
OK Czech Republic
OO Belgium
OY Denmark
P North Korea
P2 Papua New Guinea
P4 Aruba
PH Netherlands
PI Netherlands Antilles
PK Indonesia
PP Brazil
PT Brazil
PZ Surinam
RA Russian Federation
RDPL Lao
RP Philippines
S2 Bangladesh
S5 Slovenia
S7 Seychelles
S9 Principe & San Tome
S9 San Tome & Principe
SE Sweden
SP Poland
ST Sudan
SU Egypt
SX Greece
T9 Bosnia/Herzegovina
TC Turkey
TF Iceland
TG Guatemala
TI Costa Rica
TJ Cameroon
TL Central African Republic
TN Congo
TR Gabon
TS Tunisia
TT Chad
TU Côte d'Ivoire
TY Benin
TZ Mali
VH Australia
VP United Kingdom Colonies & Protectorates
VQ United Kingdom Colonies & Protectorates
VR United Kingdom Colonies & Protectorates
VT India
XA Mexico
XB Mexico
XC Mexico
XT Burkina Faso
XU Dem. Kampuchea
XV Vietnam
XY Myanmar
XZ Myanmar
YA Afghanistan
YI Iraq
YK Syrian Arab Republic
YL Latvia
YR Romania
YS El Salvador
YV Venezuela
Z Zimbabwe
ZK New Zealand
ZL New Zealand
ZM New Zealand
ZP Paraguay
ZS South Africa
ZT South Africa
ZU South Africa

stue
26th Nov 2005, 09:50
thanks IO540 and Aussie Andy. That has helped me out quite abit. Thanks for the info!
:)