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hopharrigan
10th Nov 2005, 18:32
I read an outburst from the president of AOPA concerning the stupidity of pilots who ignore TFRs and then get caught, F16s, flares, FBI and so on, which gives GA pilots a bad reputation.
But surely, the better question is "why are there TFRs in the first place?"
Flying in the US used to be so simple, just hop in and go. Now that can result in the loss of a flying licence, loss of livelihood, time in prison and who knows what else? So AOPA shows the latest info on the movements of the Pres and his vice. Without a computer how can it be accessed? Do all the small landing fields around the country even have electricity much less a computer?
How can the citizens of the world's most free nation accept this crap? Why do they not protest, and throw out the cowardly pollies who brought this stuff in?
What is it meant to achieve? How does it make the Pres, etc, safer? Safer from what? A small airplane? How would a terrorist use a small airplane to attack someone on the ground? All the assets being used to watch the area, catch offenders (none of whom have ever been terrorists and I predict never will be terrorists), arrest and handcuff them, prosecute or investigate etc, and to what end?
When the pres flies over a natural disaster area to have his obligatory look-see, the genuine airborne responders have to land and wait for him to leave, so what does that do other than defy common sense?
A better question might be, "why is W so desperately afraid of his own subjects that he feels it necessary to impose this draconian restriction on basic freedoms?"
Does any other country have a similar rule? (I know about purple airways, but does the Queen have a 30 mile circle drawn around her wherever she is into which only flight planned and approved airplanes may venture, and in which light airplanes are subject to being shot down if they enter without permission?)



Solid Rust Twotter
10th Nov 2005, 18:38
Sort of like Africa, then. A whole country shudders to a grinding halt when the life president takes a dump. Movement entails a motorcade two miles long and everyone forced off the road. It's time these monkeys were informed they're public servants and the people they're dicking around employ them and pay their salaries.:* :mad:

ThreadBaron
10th Nov 2005, 18:45
Rusty
What you said, mate. Was in Zim in 84...saw it all and did not like it. Cannot even imagine what it is like now!!

slim_slag
10th Nov 2005, 19:01
Too right hopharrigan, I'm sick of that guy turning up on one of his fundraisers and GA in the local area gets grounded.

The chinese president was in London this week and Queenie took him on a drive into town to see the subjects. When Bush was here he had his armoured limo take him from the back of Buck house to the front so he could get a photo shot in without leaving the grounds. Pussy.

TheFlyingSquirrel
10th Nov 2005, 21:39
Not TFS's? That's a shame !